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Where have all the dirty gold gone?

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
Increasingly over the past few years the availability of dirty original gold has seemingly dried up from major auctions. Certain specialist dealers still find nice pieces but generally speaking original AU Dahlonega $5's are all but non existent, some nice Charlotte pieces pop up from time to time, San Francisco is hot but pieces are generally bright and processed, and even finding original slider Philly half eagles is next to impossible.

My question is, where have all the nice pieces gone? Strong hands? Processed and gone forever? Some combination of both to be sure but it's tough not to wonder how much is the later vs. the former.

Some pics for your viewing pleasure of some dirty gold.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    idk.

    but if you guys here and auction firms keep posting images, we'll have a darn good idea of what is out there!

    i've snagged my fair share of images but my database won't be worthy until it hits 1 million+ images.

    maybe even one day a few hoarders of images like myself will combine forces and share. a lot of information that will be!
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RYK is storing them up to have one of these made with them....

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    darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Oh-i'll have to get to work and make some more of these.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice old gold.... and funny Ron....image Cheers, RickO
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think there ever was much of a supply of "dirty" gold. Most surviving gold came from bank hoards that were used as reserves in the post 1880 era. The gold from that period probably saw little actual circulation and couldn't get "dirty".
    All glory is fleeting.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of it was at Saddle Ridge and subsequently got cleaned image
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think there ever was much of a supply of "dirty" gold. Most surviving gold came from bank hoards that were used as reserves in the post 1880 era. The gold from that period probably saw little actual circulation and couldn't get "dirty". >>



    I suppose I am speaking of today relative to in previous years, not in an absolute sense. I used to be able to find one or two pieces per auction that were interesting and original. Now I go a year and see one or two pieces that I find to be worthy of pursuing.

    Nice Dahlonega gold is virtually unavailable right now and is trading either via private treaty or through dealers direct to clients with very few nice pieces showing up at auction.
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Blame RYK and Doug Winters for making it trendy over the past 5 or so years. Demand exceeds supply currently which in turn should raises prices until the coins come back on the market. That said I suspect there is more out there but only the avg stuff that doesn't peek a specialist's attention.
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    JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice original southern gold finds strong hands.

    Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia

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    jmbjmb Posts: 593 ✭✭✭
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    I don't know if this one counts....but it sure has some intense toning, and PCGS deemed it problem free.

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    All coins kept in safety deposit box.
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...... I thought RYK bought it all.
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    I love your 1848-C Boosibri!!!
    All coins kept in safety deposit box.
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    NicNic Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And one more. image
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice 1851 C Dollar!
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking dirty gold $5's, Boosibri.....I'd be mighty proud of that group.


    Blame RYK and Doug Winters for making it trendy over the past 5 or so years.
    Totally agree with you crypto. I wouldn't have wanted to own a dirty gold coin if it was just 5 years ago.


    Here's my latest dirty gold $5 acquisition......

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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, some great coins in this thread. image

    I am thrilled to have played a part in inspiring some collectors to go for the (dirty) gold and even help some stock their collections. image
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    CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some very nice, attractive coins here... thanks for setting the action off, Brian.

    This one now bears a green bean -
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    'dude



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    dagman100dagman100 Posts: 147 ✭✭
    Wow - awesome looking coins. Coins like this and collectors like you have been inspiring me over the past year to build a Half Eagle Mint type set. When and where possible, I have been going with the "old gold" original surfaces look. Just missing my -S Half Eagle and then I get to go through the set looking to upgrade.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    The man has spoken......this is the highest attainment for dirty gold.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, wow. I love that 1852 half eagle. That might be the first gold CircCam I've seen.

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    mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That 1797 $2.5 is ridiculously nice
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love that 1797 quarter eagle. That coin has intrigued me for many years, and most of the examples you see are damaged and can't be graded. It is rarer that than the 1796 No Stars and With Stars coins, but not as "sexy" to some because it came after the first year.

    As for dirty gold PCGS to just bought back a piece that I had which had been treated with iodine. Not all "dirty gold" is good gold. Some of it stinks.

    Hats off to PCGS for backing up their guarantee!: imageimage
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    mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    It's still out there just getting much harder to find.

    I just picked up this coin for my set -- quick images of it. It's in an NGC AU53 CAC holder.

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice gold everyone!

    ryk...i tried to buy that 52 from cro...but it was already spoken for...i should have known! image

    awesome qe, mrearlygold.
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    long beach newp:

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    CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread is getting too far buried in the line up. Let's see some more dirt n gold.

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    'Dude
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    That's so filthy the eagle rolled over... Hurry RYK perform mouth to beak resuscitation before it's too late! image
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where has all the dirty gold gone?

    all the talk has finally caught up to everyone, it is now being held and cleaned so that when it next appears it will be a bright and shiny.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My filthiest...
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    spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two ANA Newps I have finally imaged this Labor Day weekend. Lotsa dirt around letters, stars, devices, nice original look for each.

    PS - Revitalizing this 3 month old but excellent thread..........

    Best, SH

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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's the ones in my 1839 set:


    $2 1/2 1839 PCGS AU53CAC
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    $2 1/2 1839-O PCGS VF Ex RYK
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    $5 1839-C PCGS F12
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    $5 1839-D PCGS VG10
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    $10 1839/8 "covered ear" PCGS XF45 CAC
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super coins Claychaser! My favourite is the $10.
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A few recent new additions...
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    Some pics for your viewing pleasure of some dirty gold.
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    I would not consider this one a DOG, but the others are nice. image
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Some pics for your viewing pleasure of some dirty gold.


    I would not consider this one a DOG, but the others are nice. image >>



    So are you going by Coins299, Crustygold or Coinzealot now Paul. I didn't know the mods let you back on the forum after being banned twice.
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    Those are some nice coins, guys!

    I purchased a neat dirty gold coin recently, from a friend who was around when the famous Jackson, Tennessee gold coin hoard was discovered in 1985. The coins can be traced to an 1859 robbery of the Union Bank of Tennessee, Jackson Branch. I believe it is the second largest hoard of buried gold recovered in the U. S. (after the recent "Saddle Ridge" hoard). A book was written about the bank robbery and subsequent discovery of the gold coins.

    Gold is the Key

    My friend purchased this gold coin, an 1849 Philly five, at the time of discovery and later sent it to PCGS for grading. It is in an AU55 OGH, has abundant luster, original surfaces, a few "excavation marks," and plenty of Jackson, Tennessee dirt in the devices. I don't have a good photo of the coin yet, but will post it when I do. I added the piece to my near complete set of No Motto Philly Fives (dated 1838-1861) that I inherited from my Dad.
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    Some pics for your viewing pleasure of some dirty gold.


    I would not consider this one a DOG, but the others are nice. image >>



    So are you going by Coins299, Crustygold or Coinzealot now Paul. I didn't know the mods let you back on the forum after being banned twice. >>



    Sorry, what? Just my opinion!
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    << <i>Those are some nice coins, guys!

    I purchased a neat dirty gold coin recently, from a friend who was around when the famous Jackson, Tennessee gold coin hoard was discovered in 1985. The coins can be traced to an 1859 robbery of the Union Bank of Tennessee, Jackson Branch. I believe it is the second largest hoard of buried gold recovered in the U. S. (after the recent "Saddle Ridge" hoard). A book was written about the bank robbery and subsequent discovery of the gold coins.

    Gold is the Key

    My friend purchased this gold coin, an 1849 Philly five, at the time of discovery and later sent it to PCGS for grading. It is in an AU55 OGH, has abundant luster, original surfaces, a few "excavation marks," and plenty of Jackson, Tennessee dirt in the devices. I don't have a good photo of the coin yet, but will post it when I do. I added the piece to my near complete set of No Motto Philly Fives (dated 1838-1861) that I inherited from my Dad. >>



    I think I've seen that coin. That was a beauty! A true "DOG" image
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My other 1835 Classic Head $2.50.....this one graded XF40

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    this one did not grade.......

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    << <i>My other 1835 Classic Head $2.50.....this one graded XF40

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    Amazing coin! See the difference between this DOG, and this ex-dog?

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    This is much more of a pale, brassy, once cleaned coin IMHO. Would still fit in my collection for sure nonetheless!
    Just not what I would consider a dirty old gold.
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dude seriously, you have already played this game as your previous alt. I'm not on the forum to entertain you.

    Link to the last time you played this game
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    << <i>Dude seriously, you have already played this game as your previous alt. I'm not on the forum to entertain you.

    Link to the last time you played this game >>



    Sorry but, that dude ain't me. Looks like he has good taste though.

    I hope you don't call everyone who criticizes your mediocre coins this one person. image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was once told by a dealer that prior to the market actually wanting dirt that common date dogs where either melted as bullion or polished into jewelery pieces.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    Ah.. I know why you're angry.

    Because Goldbully's coin here looks better IMO to the one you posted?

    Is that why you're mad boos?

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