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First year seated dollar...what will it grade ?

jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm getting a submission together...Any thoughts on how this one will grade ?

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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭✭
    Ill say VF30
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a wonderful example to show what wears down first. This is a study piece.

    I'd say 35/40 (obverse/reverse).

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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    VF30ish
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't see why it would not grade. I think that VF-30 is about right.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The natural surfaces, patina and details should earn this a VF-35. image

    I'll post the PCGS-30/CAC that I just bought from Tom Bush as a comparative example.

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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    Xf40 but just barely
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    30 or 35.
    Is the end of the eagle's beak poorly defined on this coin, or is that normal for the date?
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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>30 or 35.
    Is the end of the eagle's beak poorly defined on this coin, or is that normal for the date? >>



    It looks softly struck there, rather than worn...if that is typical for the date, I'd be interested to know also.

    A couple of things about the pics I posted...there is an ever so slight rim bruise at star 1 that may hold the grade back, but the over all look of the surfaces are much cleaner in hand than these blown up and a bit over exposed images suggest.....I don't feel like there is enough luster for an XF grade, I'd like to see a 30 or 35 personally.
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    TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭
    30, or a 35 on the right day. image
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    ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭✭
    I grade it awesome. Would love to have one raw like that in my type set. image
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    DDRDDR Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a nice coin. The obverse is probably close to a 40, but the reverse a 25 or 30. If you're lucky (and I hope you are) you might get the 40, but I'd guess 35. Either way, a nice coin.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    30

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a solid VF35 to me. I really like it and assuming it has no problems we can't see? It could market-grade XF40 although it's not a true XF piece.
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF35
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    shishshish Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice example, appears to be a VF-30. image
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin...VF30...Cheers, RickO
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    xf40
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    okiedudeokiedude Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    40 on the reverse, 35 obverse?
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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF30-35
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF35. It's not far at all from an XF.
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF 40 based on the example below:

    1840 XF40 ANACS
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>XF 40 based on the example below:

    1840 XF40 ANACS >>



    LOL! I have learned that all the old holders like that rarely make the grade these days. Most that will cross or upgrade have been freed! I would give that coin a 40 before I gave the OP a 40! Much more original. I am on the fence between 30 and 35 from the pictures!
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first thought was VF35.
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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was watching a vf30 that just closed on eBay tonight...I don't know how it made it into a clean holder.
    I don't want to link it, but it might be worth a look if you feel like a good head scratcher...
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    GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF25 - VF30. Nice coin! I could use something like that for my Dansco 7070.
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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,912 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>XF 40 based on the example below:

    1840 XF40 ANACS >>



    LOL! I have learned that all the old holders like that rarely make the grade these days. Most that will cross or upgrade have been freed! I would give that coin a 40 before I gave the OP a 40! Much more original. I am on the fence between 30 and 35 from the pictures! >>



    Huh? Both the old ANACS piece you linked and the OP's coin are quite original, one is not moreso than the other. Just two different flavors of it. To the OP I'd say VF35, and a really nice coin. Bowers, I believe, in one of his many type coin books made mention that he liked the inaugural 1840 dollars a lot for type purposes.
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My thought is 35-40, but I don't really know either.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i would say vf 30 or 35. it looks like a nice coin to me as well.
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    goldengolden Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    30
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought about this one again and looked back at the posts. I thought I should explain why I see this one as a 30. The reverse hurts the grade and there is simply too much wear that is evident to support an EF grade or even a 35. The obverse closer to 35 and the flat and even wear is consistent for a 35 except on LIBERTY- I am not convinced that the strike was that weak based on the appearance, otherwise there would be greater evidence of lustre in protected areas such as in the stars. The reverse usually can only negatively impact the grade and that is what we have here. 30 still seems reasonable

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    JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895 ✭
    I say 40.
    Let's try not to get upset.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A nice vf...35 if you need a number...

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