What the What!!!!?? Shameful Indian Cent Grade

Coppercolor

Is it me or has something gone very wrong with the grade of this coin graded MS64BN?
null

It's got wear, verdigris all over the place, environmental damage and oh ..... did I mention wear?

mrdq

I'm no IHC expert but unless there was some reason for REALLY worn dies, it sure doesn't look MS to me.

keyman64

Not for me

drfish

Better send that coin for grade guarantee before the ten year window closes

CuKevin

I can't believe that is in a holder.

Billet7

I tend to play devils advocate, but I will have to agree with you....what is up with that grade!

steveben

now we know why it's up for auction.

CuKevin

I wonder if they will find a buyer though.

PerryHall

I hesitate to pass judgement on a coin based on such lousy pics. I get the feeling it looks a lot better in hand.

PerryHall

<< <i>now we know why it's up for auction. >>



Do you think only ugly overgraded coins are put in major auctions?

LochNESS

<< <i>Better send that coin for grade guarantee before the ten year window closes >>


I'm surprised nobody has suggested it's a fake slab. Seems obvious. Fake slab to sell a poor coin for a high price.

sniocsu

Not for me either

krueger

The grading services make mistakes. They don't always get it right.
I've seen more egregiuos grades then this. Buy the coin not the plastic.
Eight seconds to grade a coin , eight seconds to stay on a bull.
There's difficulty with both, even the most experienced can come up short
in the rush.

Krueger

CoinZip

Another possibility is they have the wrong photo of the tag.

steveben

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<< <i>now we know why it's up for auction. >>



Do you think only ugly overgraded coins are put in major auctions? >>



no, but i do think it's reasonable to assert ugly, over-graded coins are put up for auction because they are ugly and over-graded. this one clearly has issues. but, really, i was being facetious with my original comment.

shish

Did someone say Opps?

illini420

I have a feeling that it's just the photo and that the coin actually looks pretty decent in hand.

magikbilly

Have to agree - was expecting some horrid coin - and did not really see it. Not a screamin' Gem, but can see where it could be much better in hand, spots aside.

Eric

Broadstruck

S/B's images are often misleading and prior to sentencing this IHC based purely on images to a Monday or Friday graded coin it must be viewed in hand.

DIMEMAN

It is ngc........

ricko

Judge the coin 'in hand', pictures can be misleading. Sure, could be overgraded, but condemnation based on a picture is premature. Cheers, RickO

ColonelJessup

<< <i>I'm no IHC expert but unless there was some reason for REALLY worn dies, it sure doesn't look MS to me. >>





Verdigris on the reverse shield and, moreso, lettering

Frankcoins

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<< <i>Better send that coin for grade guarantee before the ten year window closes >>


I'm surprised nobody has suggested it's a fake slab. Seems obvious. Fake slab to sell a poor coin for a high price. >>




Very unlikely from Stack's-Bowers, Heritage, or any major coin dealer. Some of my biggest profit flips have been
holding my nose and bidding on a coin that looks horrid in the photos, hoping that the grading company got it right
and it would be nice when seen in-hand. I bought several hundred coins on Teletrade in the late 1990s when their
photos were lacking, even making my objective to study the WORST looking coins based on the photos. I don't
remember ever returning one, as they were all OK or even nice...I tripled my money on a Grant that looked like it had
been in a fire from the photo but in hand the cabin and trees looked like a 3D Viewmaster image.

But then Teletrade improved their photos....

johnny9434

<< <i>Not for me >>

not for me either. it dont look right.

IrishMikey

<< <i>Judge the coin 'in hand', pictures can be misleading. Sure, could be overgraded, but condemnation based on a picture is premature. Cheers, RickO >>


But Ricko, I thought "condemnation based on a picture" was standard operating procedure here.

MacCrimmon

Looks to be speckled with PVC residue.

daOnlyBG

It doesn't look good, no- but for what it's worth, I can make an MS65 coin look like it's AU50 with my camera, lol.
The color scheme does raise concern, though- those colors look like the ones you'd get on a coin after some serious surface alteration.
Wouldn't bid on it.

Coppercolor

I suppose I didn't consider that it could have turned in the slab.

cmerlo1

Not at all surprised.