Trade Dollar GTG - grade posted- TRUEVIEW posted
OriginalDan
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We haven't had a Trade Dollar guess the grade in a while, here's a new pick-up I showed in another thread. Guess the grade...I will be submitting shortly and will follow up once the grade is posted by our hosts.
1878-CC Trade Dollar
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We already had one vote for "wholesome" in the other thread.
*** Grade posted near bottom of thread ***
1878-CC Trade Dollar
Larger images:
Obverse
Reverse
We already had one vote for "wholesome" in the other thread.
*** Grade posted near bottom of thread ***
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I like it
<< <i>VF-35
I like it
You stole my guess hehe, I was going to say 35 too. But I really like the circam appearance on that trade.
a solid XF grade. Suspect some of the flattish areas (outer wings for example) are possibly more strike than wear.
<< <i>Agree with VF35. You don't see circulated CC's looking as clean and original as this very often. A lot of the details on this coin suggest
a solid XF grade. Suspect some of the flattish areas (outer wings for example) are possibly more strike than wear. >>
This is a perfect answer, these are known with weak wings and such. I see a coin with no luster so it starts at XF40 and at a point the difference between ware and soft strike is negligible on a mid range coin as it is what it is. So the flat spots drop it down to 35 but very nice for the grade. An XF40 isn't out of the question.
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<< <i>I take a stab at BB, filed rims, otherwise 25. Pretty coin except for those worn rims. >>
Interesting that you bring this up. That was my one and only concern purchasing this coin raw after viewing only a picture (I now have the coin and am not worried) The type 2 obverse trade dollars with this amount of wear just look like this. I have a near identically worn coin that straight graded, the rims look the same, I believe it's just how they wear.
If not, I still think there is too much wear there for an EF. If the rims are OK, I'd say VF-25. But a VF with a lot of eye appeal.
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
For grade comparison:
To share my thoughts, on the 78CC I see the coin as a nice VF30. I believe the rims have naturally worn down, not filed.
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
<< <i>Please let us know what that one comes back as. I am really curious. >>
Will do. By the way DDR, didn't recognize you with the changed avatar. Also, I hear we just missed each other when I was back east....hopefully next time.
Crypto79's XF has a lot more meat as well as what appears to be luster. If that's the XF40 standard for the date, then VF25 or 30 is probably more likely than 35.
I see an awful lot of XF40 seated and bust halves that don't anywhere near the remaining detail of Crypto79's coin.
<< <i>For comparison
Looks XF45 to me, John.
Edited to add: What am I missing?
edited to add again: Dan and Mikey you are correct......AU 1$Trade for sure.
I'm sure Crypto will school us on this lady!!!
<< <i>Looks XF45 to me, John.
What am I missing? >>
I've seen John's 78cc in hand. It's an AU53 severely punished for being dark.
I flipped over the slab and was surprised to see a hand written note by David Hall attached to the back with a short opinion about the grade. Very cool.
the OP coin is a solid VF-35 that appears to show no reasons to be net graded.
I was really bummed I missed you too. Unfortunately, I had a previous commitment I could not break.
Yes, I changed my avator to a three-legged Buffalo Nickel that I have had since the 1980's. I got tired of that little red airplane that really didn't mean anything to me. Buffalo Nickels were my first coin-collecting love. I put together a complete set of full-horn Buffalos before getting into the whole Trade dollar adventure.
Back to the thread... Crypto's 78-CC is an AU coin that got net graded for some reason. As you know, most EF Trade dollars are not that nice and do not have that much detail in them.
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
Guesses were in the range of VF20 to XF40, weighted towards VF35. A few concerns were voiced about filed rims but my gut was right, this is what edge wear looks like on a VF Type II/Type II trade dollar.
Thanks for the guesses and stay tuned for Trueview.
Conga rats on the nice coin.
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
<< <i>I like the coin, but I have one question. Wouldn't the outline around the eagle infer some kind of cleaning in the past. I'm not trying to say your coin was cleaned, just trying to understand aging patterns. >>
Good question and you made me look closer. From what I can tell, the dark outline around the eagle and elsewhere is more staining than gunk buildup. I think there likely was gunk built up in the protected areas that came and went with circulation, the coin toned/stained/colored differently in the protected areas as a result. I could also conceive this coin having been rinsed a little at some point, much different than a dip, more like a wash to rid it of loose gunk. Obviously it wasn't stripped like many you see and I'm glad for that. Really it's anyone's guess as to how it go to be exactly how it is today.