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MS-68 Mercury Dimes
jimbux61
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Just purchased my 3rd of these today (this time a 1941-D), and all of them are in fatty NGC holders. A bit of research on Heritage shows that of the MS-68 Mercs in all years, quite a large percentage of them are in the NGC fatty holders.
So why would this be -- NGC was liberal on these?; the fatty holders don't get cracked out much?; a lot of these surfaced during the era of the holders?
Bear in mind, there are not many of these graded MS-68 in the first place, so perhaps it is just coincidence?
Interested in opinions.
Thank You.
Here's the one I picked up today.
So why would this be -- NGC was liberal on these?; the fatty holders don't get cracked out much?; a lot of these surfaced during the era of the holders?
Bear in mind, there are not many of these graded MS-68 in the first place, so perhaps it is just coincidence?
Interested in opinions.
Thank You.
Here's the one I picked up today.
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There is a reason that there are so many 68's in NGC.
Surfaces don't look clean enough for me to buy it as a 68.
If the price was low enough, it's fine, but if it was, there was probably a reason in the price being that low
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I have crossed a lot of MS Merc's and Roosies from NGC to PCGS.....They almost always drop 1 point. I buy them that way....so no loss.
I know what I am talking about.
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<< <i>Dang. You guys are tough. This coin looks like a gorgeous, original Gem to me. MS-68 isn't MS-70. >>
Doesn't gem=ms65 by common definition? >>
Now we're just getting nitpicky about semantics
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Just purchased my 3rd of these today (this time a 1941-D),
Here's the one I picked up today.
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Everyone is busy looking at it for the grade. It's a 42-d.
Many members on this forum that now it cannot fit in my signature. Please ask for entire list.
<< <i>>>>so it may not seem appropriate to apply remarks across the board.<<<
I have crossed a lot of MS Merc's and Roosies from NGC to PCGS.....They almost always drop 1 point. I buy them that way....so no loss.
I know what I am talking about. >>
I'll go with Dimeman. Still, a very nice piece.
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<< <i>Dang. You guys are tough. This coin looks like a gorgeous, original Gem to me. MS-68 isn't MS-70. >>
Doesn't gem=ms65 by common definition? >>
Partially. Using PCGS glossary for reference, it "also is used for higher grades and as a generic term for a superb coin."
To the crossover folks, I think they'll find the same results from PCGS to NGC as they do from NGC to PCGS. I'm convinced the services are tougher on crossovers than they are when coins are submitted raw.
Not really.
I have tried both ways........in the slab and broke out sent raw......results are the same.
NGC is just not as good at the same grade. Look at the 2 price guides (PCGS & NGC) and you will see the difference.
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Just purchased my 3rd of these today (this time a 1941-D),
Here's the one I picked up today.
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Everyone is busy looking at it for the grade. It's a 42-d.
But NGC always assigns it one YEAR higher than PCGS.
<< <i>Ultra Grade moderns are a confusing specialty. I think one day the hobby will laugh off this era and the ultra grades unless the grade consists with true rarity or an obvious differentiation for the majority of other survivors. >>
This comment might make sense in a modern commem thread, but just comes off as silly in this context, IMNSHO.
<< <i>Pics can be deceptive. One of my NGC fatty holder MS-68 Mercs has a CAC sticker on it, so it may not seem appropriate to apply remarks across the board. Nonetheless, I do appreciate all opinions. Thank You. >>
This is why I have not and will never buy a coin based on an image.
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<< <i>Ultra Grade moderns are a confusing specialty. I think one day the hobby will laugh off this era and the ultra grades unless the grade consists with true rarity or an obvious differentiation for the majority of other survivors. >>
This comment might make sense in a modern commem thread, but just comes off as silly in this context, IMNSHO. >>
Who was speaking about commemoratives? I was talking about ultra common modern-era coins that are a dime a dozen and are put up on a pedestal by a TPG grade that the people buying them can rarely agree on what the grade means means let alone tell it apart from the one bellow. No worries though, I still feel I got what I paid out of your NSHO.
Paying moon money for a MS68 or 69 when the same coin in one grade lower can be had for small change.......just doesn't make since!
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<< <i>Ultra Grade moderns are a confusing specialty. I think one day the hobby will laugh off this era and the ultra grades unless the grade consists with true rarity or an obvious differentiation for the majority of other survivors. >>
This comment might make sense in a modern commem thread, but just comes off as silly in this context, IMNSHO. >>
Who was speaking about commemoratives? I was talking about ultra common modern-era coins that are a dime a dozen and are put up on a pedestal by a TPG grade that the people buying them can rarely agree on what the grade means means let alone tell it apart from the one bellow. No worries though, I still feel I got what I paid out of your NSHO. >>
Can anyone parse English anymore? My comment implies that you WEREN'T speaking of commems. The point being
that I would agree with the assertion that the hobby will one day (and in many cases, already does) laugh at the
MS69/70 distinction on modern commems. On the other hand, I think the ultra grades in 20th Century business
strike (silver) coinage are far more legit (i.e., far less arbitrary). Are there overgraded examples and periods of
loose grading? Of course, but to my mind no more so than for other areas of "classic" US coinage.
You and Dimeman are welcome to your opinion that ultra grade "modern" coins are overpriced, and I would
agree with you in many cases, but disagree in others. It really comes down to specific examples.
<< <i>>>>and all of them are in fatty NGC holders<<<............That means you actually have 3 MS67 Merc's.
There is a reason that there are so many 68's in NGC. >>
I just knew this thread would get a kool-aid reply.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
A beautiful coin is a beautiful coin, not matter the holder. However, the marketplace (not any of us) determines the value in the end. Good luck in your collecting and I hope you get some more 68s as they are special coins...
Most of the original Mercateers are still here in one form or fashion. I hope some will chime in. And I still have the T-shirt...LOL It was a VERY supportive group.
Nothing to do with kool-aid.........it is what it is!
<< <i>>>>I just knew this thread would get a kool-aid reply. <<<
Nothing to do with kool-aid.........it is what it is! >>
Ok you just go on with that. lol
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Thanks for the OK.....I will go with that.
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Very few Mercury dimes should be called MS68.Too many dated in the '40's survived in superb condition for grading services to hand out the MS68 grade like candy.
The coin shown appears to be a somewhat better than average gem (MS65) but that's about it.
No offense to OP intended.That's my opinion.
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