OT-Need help from the brain trust

To decipher the writing and identify the soldier.
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  • For Uncle James,

    from his affectionate nephew

    Hans Morris

    Lieutenant 1st US Artillery
    Always looking for US 22666622, 34444443 and 18111181 Radars & Perfect Flipper Serials consisting of 6, 8, 9, 0

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  • or Norris?
    EBAY ID: mxc1971 and maxcrusha







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  • Yes Norris... mixed the N with M b/c of the end of the previous character
    Always looking for US 22666622, 34444443 and 18111181 Radars & Perfect Flipper Serials consisting of 6, 8, 9, 0

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  • uzuiwekuzuiwek Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭
    Yes, I think it's 'Norris' as well.

    The first name seems to be an abbreviation, which was the style at the time, like Wm. for William. I see Hn and then a third letter I can't decide on. Maybe Henry?
    SPMC LM #405 - Collector of Ohio obsoletes. And other stuff, that I'm not going to tell you, so you don't buy it before I do.
  • 0882208822 Posts: 5,021
    I dont think the first name is Hans
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  • TCCUGATCCUGA Posts: 1,056 ✭✭
    edit-- just realized I said exactly what uzuiwek said. Hnr as an abbreviation
    Buying Athens, GA nationals and obsoletes, for my personal collection
    Buying most large and small type notes and some nationals for inventory
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭
    Pencil-

    From James Hall Album

    So assume James Hall (Recipient) Hans? Morris is Nephew

    From Ancestry.com

    Name: Han Morris
    Arrival Date: 9 Sep 1864
    Birth Year: abt 1842
    Age: 22
    Gender: Male
    Ethnicity/Race-
    /Nationality: British (English)
    Place of Origin: Great Britain
    Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
    Destination: United States of America
    Port of Arrival: New York
    Port Arrival State: New York
    Port Arrival Country: United States
    Ship Name: Adelaide

    Or

    Name: William H Morris
    Birth Date: abt 1842
    Age: 22
    Enlistment Date: 1864
    Military unit: First Light Artillery

    Searched for a H Morris with mother maiden name Hall- Not enough to really go on


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  • MAM0912MAM0912 Posts: 695 ✭✭
    I think it's Hn. P. Norris

    I found a civil war record for H P Norris as a member
    of the Regular Garrison, 1st Lieut, 1st Arty, in Pensacola, Florida, May 1862

    Found another record, turns out to be Hardman P Norris, he returned to Fort Pickens, Florida in April 1862.
    Marty

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  • OmegaOmega Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭
    1st U.S. Artillery Regiment, Lieutenant Hardman P. Norris, commanding

    Linky
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭
    Ok- restarted search with Norris- Still assuming Mothers Name is Hall ( Uncle James Hall)

    But I need to get some work done


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    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭
    Name: Hardman P Norris
    Enlistment Date: 8 May 1861
    Rank at enlistment: 1st Lieut
    State Served: Regular Army
    Survived the War?: Yes
    Service Record: Commissioned an officer in the Regular Army 1st Light Artillery Regiment on 05 Aug 1861.
    Mustered out on 14 Dec 1865.
    Sources: Index to Compiled Military Service Records
    Heitman: Register of United States Army 1789-1903

    Name: Hardman P Norris
    Enlistment Date: 8 May 1861
    Rank at enlistment: 2nd Lieut
    State Served: Regular Army
    Survived the War?: Yes
    Service Record: Commissioned an officer in on 05 Aug 1861.
    Promoted to Full 1st Lieutenant.
    Mustered out on 14 Dec 1865.
    Sources: Heitman: Register of United States Army 1789-1903
    Photo courtesy of Massachusetts Commandery of MOLLUS

    View Photo



    I found another Photo- It is definitely him, I just can't upload it yet ( I think people would need an account to view it- here goes



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    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

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  • FWIW, I live in North Florida, and I know that Norris is a southern name. Had a childhood friend with that last name.
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭
    this is a scan of a print from the computer- I would say it is the same man

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    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • Same man, same handwriting. That is an awesome photo! And a Brady, at that! Is that a personal collection item, or are you selling it?
    Yes, I do sell on Ebay

    Feel free to ask for my BST references!

    *I reserve the right to change the direction of my collection at whiplash-inducing speeds.
  • Do you think he had any idea that people would be using computers to look at his photo 150 years after he served in the Civil War?

    Edit: Yeesh! I just had an odd thought...it's even more likely that people 150 years from now could read this post. Hello people of the future! Life is good for me right now! Hope all is well and space travel is fun!
  • 0882208822 Posts: 5,021
    I bought this in a small group of items in a Freemans auction around 10 years ago. My agitated underbidder immediately offered me a profit.
    I dug it out while grabbing some stuff to fleabay. I want to sell it properly attributed.

    You guys are AWESOME! Thanks for the help!!
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  • MAM0912MAM0912 Posts: 695 ✭✭
    I believe it is very possible that this photo was taken in the Fall of 1861.
    Hardman P Norris was assigned to Fort Washington, Maryland,
    Company D on Sep 4, 1861. In the December 1861 report it's listed that
    on Nov 27, 1861 he was transferred to Company F and on the January report for
    Fort Pickens, Florida lists that he joined Co. F on Jan 16, 1862.

    With the Brady Washington stamped on the bottom of the card stock one could guess that
    he had the photo taken while posted to Fort Washington, MD in the Fall of 1861.
    Marty

    US Obsoletes esp NJ, WEB Notes,

    National Iron Bank of Morristown (#1113) and Irish Currency
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭
    Ready for the currency connection?


    From My research Hardman Married Euphemia Ogden Meredith Daughter of the secretary of the treasury William Morris Meredith


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    They had a daughter Meredith Norris

    Birth: 7 Dec 1865
    Death: 12 Sep 1883

    That line ended there.

    Still looking for Uncle James


    Also found a book reference where Harman was at the barn when Booth was discovered.


    A witty saying proves nothing- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)



    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • Can you post a link to where it's being sold. There may be interested buyers here...
    Yes, I do sell on Ebay

    Feel free to ask for my BST references!

    *I reserve the right to change the direction of my collection at whiplash-inducing speeds.
  • 0882208822 Posts: 5,021
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  • 0882208822 Posts: 5,021
    Not removed, but you cant see the link till the auction goes live.
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  • The item has been removed?
    -Looking for nat'ls from charter #'s: 1-100 (Large Size), 1764, 1973, 2004, 2006, 4378, 6528, 7098, 7403, 9291, 10008, 12697. Also looking for Disney Dollars, S/N 23, Fr. 239*, and 1918 $1 FRBNs.
  • Gotcha. Just like you can't see my question until I read your response!
    -Looking for nat'ls from charter #'s: 1-100 (Large Size), 1764, 1973, 2004, 2006, 4378, 6528, 7098, 7403, 9291, 10008, 12697. Also looking for Disney Dollars, S/N 23, Fr. 239*, and 1918 $1 FRBNs.
  • SmallSizedGuySmallSizedGuy Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭
    Wow...this whole thread is amazing! Good work!
    Jim Hodgson



    Collector of US Small Size currency, Atlanta FRNs, and Georgia nationals since 1977. Researcher of small size US type - seeking serial number data for all FRN star notes, Series 1928 to 1934-D. Life member SPMC.



  • tomtomtomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 685 ✭✭✭
    I'm always amazed by the info that members bring to this forum!
  • tomtomtomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 685 ✭✭✭
    It is live now
  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭
    Cool photo and neat history!
  • luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭
    A wonderful and informative thread for sure.
    “Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.” Benjamin Franklin
  • delistampsdelistamps Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭
    Is this part of a move to get Jess back on the forum? I do miss the notes he used to post.
  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭
    Cool thread and just a coincidence.
  • delistampsdelistamps Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2016 12:39PM

    In going through some old threads, I see WestySteve's VW bus avatar. Are you still on the board?

  • delistampsdelistamps Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭

    Does anyone know where Westy Steve is???

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