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Crazy Prices for this 8.5

MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
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The normal 20 to 40% mark up isn't applying here, closer to 300%!!!!!!! Nice card though, so is it a set registry thing or are 8.5s gaining ground on 9 prices.



1960 Clemente PSA 8.5
Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set

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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    when applied properly, the 8.5 grade serves as a bridge between a "very strong" PSA 8 or a "borderline" PSA 9.

    i think the market is speaking volumes when it comes to this concept, as i've seen some pretty hefty prices for the grade, as well as disasters for cards which don't appear to fit the grade.

    i have several 8.5's in my own collection since jumping on the bandwagon, but i've also been very selective about the cards, not the flips.

    BTW, that Clemente is on my watch list, too. image
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    A nice 8 will usually go for $300-$350 (at least that was the case a year or two ago when I bought mine). So roughly double that, for what PSA deems to be "a high end 8".

    Sweet card, and an excellent result for the seller. This wasn't just a case of two people who had to have it, either. Five people bid $500 or more. Maybe more, since there could have been snipes that didn't fire.

    Edited to add that I just now realized this auction isn't even done yet!!! image
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    "when applied properly, the 8.5 grade serves as a bridge between a "very strong" PSA 8 or a "borderline" PSA 9."

    a lot of truth in that statement.

    For me, im a centering fan. when i see an "old flip" PSA 8 up that im interested in, i think to myself ... when this was graded and there were no half point grades, this card was too good for a 7, but not good enough for a 9 Slab on that day.
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭
    The 8.5 grade "premium" also varies based on which set it is in and what the populations are of 8s and 9s.

    There are plenty of examples of PSA 8.5s going between 2x-3x PSA 8 price in VCP.


    Dave
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The 8.5 grade "premium" also varies based on which set it is in and what the populations are of 8s and 9s.

    There are plenty of examples of PSA 8.5s going between 2x-3x PSA 8 price in VCP. >>



    Yes but this card is not tough to find in either PSA 8 or 9. Typically the 8.5s that bring tons are because not many 9's exist.

    I think this is a regrade candidate that people are in love with.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • RMacRMac Posts: 292
    This may sound stupid, but why is shipping $10.00?
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This may sound stupid, but why is shipping $10.00? >>



    When you add insurance, signature confirmation, and regular shipping charges, the $10 shipping charge isn't too far off!!! You think that is high, PWCC is charging $30 for one single graded card!!! Why you may ask?? He bases his shipping charge on the price that the card should attain. That in turn determines how much the insurance is. The higher the value, the more expensive the insurance. $10 for a $20 common is high. $10 for a $800 card isn't off the wall at all.
  • RMacRMac Posts: 292


    << <i>

    << <i>This may sound stupid, but why is shipping $10.00? >>



    When you add insurance, signature confirmation, and regular shipping charges, the $10 shipping charge isn't too far off!!! You think that is high, PWCC is charging $30 for one single graded card!!! Why you may ask?? He bases his shipping charge on the price that the card should attain. That in turn determines how much the insurance is. The higher the value, the more expensive the insurance. $10 for a $20 common is high. $10 for a $800 card isn't off the wall at all. >>




    Ahhh...I thought insurance was added afterwards, just so you know how much to insure it for. Thanks for the info!
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sold a Jordan rookie for $1,225 a year or so ago and offered free fully insured shipping. The actual shipping charges were $17 with priority mail and full insurance.
  • relaxedrelaxed Posts: 569 ✭
    That is really a nice looking Clemente and the centering is excellent, I can see why the card is showing alot of interest.
    Collecting 1955 Topps BB
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    I am officially on board with Morgoth's opinion. There have to be a few people that are pretty confident this card is eventually going to end up in a PSA 9 holder. Up to $771 now!!!
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you guys should be cheering this along! Big prices paid for auctions is good for most of you!


  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096


    << <i>I think you guys should be cheering this along! Big prices paid for auctions is good for most of you! >>



    I see what you're saying, but it is and it isn't. It is definitely problematic when I am trying to buy a card like that. image
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am officially on board with Morgoth's opinion. There have to be a few people that are pretty confident this card is eventually going to end up in a PSA 9 holder. Up to $771 now!!! >>



    And it could just as easily be cracked out and resubmitted donly to receive an 8 too.

    This card was originally sold by 4SC in August, 2011 for $625 on a best offer basis. With VCP showing
    8s at $287 and 9s at roughly $1675 I would have expected it to fetch between $575 and $862 (between
    2x-3x of the PSA 8 price).

    My bet is that it ends in the $840s.


    Dave
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What the heck I am going to guess it ends at $1,032 or higher.


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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Final price was $771. My wild guess was way to high.

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