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Great Lakes at it again?

Blackitalian aka (italianz31) sold a very samiliar card to r2d22therescue for 675.00 on 10/23/11....Now Great lakes auctions has a very samiliar card for sale currently 1500+. Notice on the back the red lines at the top left they seem to be lighter in the Great Lakes auction...I can forward a better scan of the back.

Blackitalian ebay user italianz31 sold to r2d22therescue on 10/23/11.
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Scan of sale on 10/25 bought by michigan_mice aka Great Lakes...he also bought other cards notice the Clemente.
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Link to feedback left for michigan_mice


Great_Lakes_Auction has for sale on ebay.
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Links to auctions
Italianz31 sold card

Great Lakes Auction

AKA Great_lakes buying account
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  • Morning,

    OK Kirk, first your messing with my mind, I thought that was Nick! Secondly about the thread ??????????????????????????? Huh ?????????????????

    Neil

    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Picture on top is from when Blackitalian had the card for sale...sorry for the little pic but I cant blow it up...The pic on the bottom is where Great Lakes has it for sale...
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Basically in a nut shell I believe the r2d22therescue is a buying account for Great Lakes Auction.
  • Good PI work Kirk. I think Great Lakes' old buyer name was crabshucks...
  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    So is something up, or are you just pointing out that an auction house buys stuff to sell under names not linked to them? Not sure of their history.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Notice what appears to be alterations to the second card..The top left back corner red lines seems to be fainter in the second scan.
  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    The fact that card is laying on a red background doesn't help because the picture may have just come out that way. Are they known for either taking shady pictures, altering pictures, or pulling a Waverly and touching up cards? Message them asking for a picture of the card on a black background.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Past discussions.
    Great_Lakes
  • THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    That buyer account is NOT associated with great lakes. The account listed by the OP resides in Nevada. Great Lakes is in Michigan.

    It is however the same card. It was sold recently as a PSA 2.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    UPDATE...


    Great Lakes buying account is michigan_mice
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭


    << <i>THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN >>



    Interesting thats not how you described the card in your auction...this is a direct qoute from your auction

    I HAVE FOR SALE MY T206 TY COBB IN VG/EX CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS NO CREASES, TEARS, PINHOLES AND HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED IN ANYWAY. LOOKS LIKE A 3 OR 4 TO ME. IM ONLY POSTING THIS FOR TODAY ONLY AT THIS PRICE!!!! BACK IS SWEET CAPORAL! HURRY AND GET THIS FAST

    Link to auction
    Blackitalian's description
  • what is your point you idiot???? interesting that youre that obsessed with me that you would do research on a card i sold awhile ago. the buyer gave me positive feedback and had all his questions answered. why do you think i sold it for so cheap??? Sad that a old man like you spends so much time obsessing over a guy and trying to be-little me every chance you get. Try this website next time loser. MATCH.COM


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    << <i>THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN >>



    Interesting thats not how you described the card in your auction...this is a direct qoute from your auction

    I HAVE FOR SALE MY T206 TY COBB IN VG/EX CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS NO CREASES, TEARS, PINHOLES AND HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED IN ANYWAY. LOOKS LIKE A 3 OR 4 TO ME. IM ONLY POSTING THIS FOR TODAY ONLY AT THIS PRICE!!!! BACK IS SWEET CAPORAL! HURRY AND GET THIS FAST

    Link to auction
    Blackitalian's description >>



    I MEAN SERIOUSLY EVERYTIME YOU DO THIS IT MAKES YOU LOOK MORE AND MORE LIKE A STALKER AND SHOWS HOW OBSESSED YOU ARE OVER ME. WHAT KINDA IDIOT GETS THE KINDA DEALS I GAVE YOU ON THE CARDS I SOLD YOU, YOU MADE PROFIT I THINK EVENTHOUGH YOU CANT SELL THE WILLIAMS CARD AND THEN TRY TO RUIN MY CREDIBILITY WHEN I GAVE YOU A HELL OF A DEAL???? I HONESTLY FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY THAT WILL HURT MY FEELINGS OR MAKE ME MAD BECAUSE YOURE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK STUPID. YOURE LIKE 20 YRS OLDER THAN ME AND YOU ACT LIKE A JUNIOR HIGH BULLY THAT HAS NO FRIENDS AT ALL. YOU NEED COUNSELING
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Guys, honestly, take it somewhere else! No one wants to bare witness to the two of you attack each other for the third time on these boards. Have some respect for the rest of us, please!
  • MB- TRUST ME I DONT LIKE THIS AT ALL AND HONESTLY MRMINT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND. AFTER THE LAST INCIDENT I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO HIM OR SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. NEXT THING I KNOW I GET A EMAIL FROM SOME GUY YESTERDAY WHO WAS GOING TO BUY ONE OF MY CARDS TELL ME THAT MRMINT TOLD HIM NOT TO BUY CARDS FROM ME. AND THEN TODAY AFTER I CONFRONTED HIM HE TOLD ME HE WANTED TO SEE MY GRANDMOTHERS DEATH CERTIFICATE...THATS SICK AND OUT OF CONTROL AND I CANT BELIEVE SOMEONE LIKE HIM IS ALLOWED ON THESE FORUMS


  • << <i>Guys, honestly, take it somewhere else! No one wants to bare witness to the two of you attack each other for the third time on these boards. Have some respect for the rest of us, please! >>



    HE HAS REPEATEDLY LOOKED INTO MY FAMILY'S PERSONAL INFORMATION, AND KEEPS TELLING ME HE WANTS PROOF OF MY GRANDMOTHERS DEATH. HE'S A SICK PERSON AND SPENDS HIS TIME OBSESSING OVER ME BY TRYING TO PULL UP EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION IVE DONE. HE EVEN WATCHES MY AUCTIONS AND PERSONALLY EMAILS POTENTIAL BUYERS AND PERSUADES THEM NOT TO BUY MY ITEMS
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    What part of stop, do you not understand? Act like a man and take it up with him if you have a problem, otherwise keep this back and forth crap off these board. I speak for many when I say we are sick of this crap. Don't respond, take it elsewhere!
  • THEN TELL HIM TO STOP!!!! I WANT THIS IDIOT TO LEAVE ME ALONE SO WHY DOESNT ANYONE TELL HIM. I WAS FINE AND THEN I GET A EMAIL TELLING ME HES TALKING ABOUT ME AND THEN HES STILL POSTING FORUMS ABOUT ME. YOU DONT SEE ME DOING THAT ANYMORE.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blackitalian,

    When I was growing up all the kids called us Peckerhead because of my last name. It used to drive me nuts and the kids knew it so they kept it up.

    My dad gave me some great advice, if you ignore them sooner then later it will lose it's appeal and they will stop. Guess what it worked and it was no longer a derogatory statement towards us.

    You simply need to quit responding and it will no longer be fun for him.

    Quite frankly you look worse because you are constantly responding with all caps and anger. No one is suggesting you should not be upset if some of the things you say are true but you are keeping it going and it is making you look bad.

    Take this friendly advice trust me.

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I came here for some drama and damn I found me some.

    This should be a 3 way, where's Nick?


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    Good for you.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I came here for some drama and damn I found me some.

    This should be a 3 way, where's Nick?


    image >>



    Sidelines.
  • Cool thread.
  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I came here for some drama and damn I found me some.

    This should be a 3 way, where's Nick?


    image >>



    Sidelines. >>



    Nice avatar.

    Too bad it has been taken.

    Oh.......wait.....













    Reverse that.

  • LOL, can you both sit down at your desks and be quiet while th rest of us listen to who is talking!
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    WYLSCWTW?
  • cadets68cadets68 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭


    << <i>WYLSCWTW? >>



    I love cheese (born and raised in Green Bay), but sadly I am lactose intolerant and do not care for wine. And I have no skin in this game.

    Go Brewers!
    After those four National League games, Gorman Thomas was never the same, and neither were the Brewers, and come to think of it neither was I.

    Josh Wilker - Cardboard Gods
  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN >>



    Interesting thats not how you described the card in your auction...this is a direct qoute from your auction

    I HAVE FOR SALE MY T206 TY COBB IN VG/EX CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS NO CREASES, TEARS, PINHOLES AND HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED IN ANYWAY. LOOKS LIKE A 3 OR 4 TO ME. IM ONLY POSTING THIS FOR TODAY ONLY AT THIS PRICE!!!! BACK IS SWEET CAPORAL! HURRY AND GET THIS FAST

    Link to auction
    Blackitalian's description >>




    So Blackitalian used puffery to make the card sound way better than what it really was and then says on these boards the card is more or less horrible. LOL I guess Great Lakes just wanted to take it a step further and make it really look like a 3 or 4. If anything they are helping make Black's description of a 3 or 4 come true. Some sellers are just shady and that is why whenever I see a graded card and then see the seller list some BS about it being soooo much better than the professional grade given that I usually lose all interest in the card and that seller.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Peckerhead. That made me giggle. image
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Some sellers are just shady and that is why whenever I see a graded card and then see the seller list some BS about it being soooo much better than the professional grade given that I usually lose all interest in the card and that seller. >>



    Yea....but sometimes that is true! How many crackouts have come back 2-3 grades higher?!?!? I personally had one jump from a 5-8. I also have one current surefire PSA 7(MC) sitting in a 4(MC) holder. NO WAY am I selling that card in the current holder!
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Guy on Net54 found some more examples of buy and sell pictures.

    Net54 discussion


  • << <i>What part of stop, do you not understand? Act like a man and take it up with him if you have a problem, otherwise keep this back and forth crap off these board. I speak for many when I say we are sick of this crap. Don't respond, take it elsewhere! >>



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    Thank You !!!!

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Blackitalian,

    When I was growing up all the kids called us Peckerhead because of my last name. It used to drive me nuts and the kids knew it so they kept it up.

    My dad gave me some great advice, if you ignore them sooner then later it will lose it's appeal and they will stop. Guess what it worked and it was no longer a derogatory statement towards us.

    You simply need to quit responding and it will no longer be fun for him.

    Quite frankly you look worse because you are constantly responding with all caps and anger. No one is suggesting you should not be upset if some of the things you say are true but you are keeping it going and it is making you look bad.

    Take this friendly advice trust me.



    Well put, Peckerhead.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love cheese (born and raised in Green Bay), but sadly I am lactose intolerant >>


    Dang man, that just ain't fair. First you gotta live with 15+ years of Brett Favre then you gotta be lactose intolerant in cheese country? It just ain't right, I tell ya.

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    Tabe
  • Mommy, mommy, hes picking on me......grow a sack bud.


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    << <i>THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN >>



    Interesting thats not how you described the card in your auction...this is a direct qoute from your auction

    I HAVE FOR SALE MY T206 TY COBB IN VG/EX CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS NO CREASES, TEARS, PINHOLES AND HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED IN ANYWAY. LOOKS LIKE A 3 OR 4 TO ME. IM ONLY POSTING THIS FOR TODAY ONLY AT THIS PRICE!!!! BACK IS SWEET CAPORAL! HURRY AND GET THIS FAST

    Link to auction
    Blackitalian's description >>




    So Blackitalian used puffery to make the card sound way better than what it really was and then says on these boards the card is more or less horrible. LOL I guess Great Lakes just wanted to take it a step further and make it really look like a 3 or 4. If anything they are helping make Black's description of a 3 or 4 come true. Some sellers are just shady and that is why whenever I see a graded card and then see the seller list some BS about it being soooo much better than the professional grade given that I usually lose all interest in the card and that seller. >>



    I never once said the card was horrible so whered you pull that out from???? I said the card has some paper loss on the back and was upfront with the buyer who purchased the card that there was some. I put scans of the card so anybody bidding could see what i was selling. Ive bought a couple cards from great lakes and am now realizing what their strategy is and what theyre about.


  • << <i>Mommy, mommy, hes picking on me......grow a sack bud. >>



    (Looking down) Yep sack is there bud!!!!
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    MrMints obsession is pretty creepy, especially if he is really doing that stalker-ish type stuff.

    BlackItalian needs to learn how to not keep drama going so the foolishness can subside. Obviously MrMint is getting some strange kick out of getting under BlackItalians skin.

    Both you guys are creeping me and probably a lot of other people out around here. I dont think I want to deal with either one of you. MrMint may not like 25 cents of too high shipping and start stalking me. BlackItalian may not be able to find dry corn flakes. MBMiller has it right...take it somewhere else. My advice is to kiss and make up.
  • JohnnyDJohnnyD Posts: 521 ✭✭


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    << <i>THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN >>



    Interesting thats not how you described the card in your auction...this is a direct qoute from your auction

    I HAVE FOR SALE MY T206 TY COBB IN VG/EX CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS NO CREASES, TEARS, PINHOLES AND HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED IN ANYWAY. LOOKS LIKE A 3 OR 4 TO ME. IM ONLY POSTING THIS FOR TODAY ONLY AT THIS PRICE!!!! BACK IS SWEET CAPORAL! HURRY AND GET THIS FAST

    Link to auction
    Blackitalian's description >>




    So Blackitalian used puffery to make the card sound way better than what it really was and then says on these boards the card is more or less horrible. LOL I guess Great Lakes just wanted to take it a step further and make it really look like a 3 or 4. If anything they are helping make Black's description of a 3 or 4 come true. Some sellers are just shady and that is why whenever I see a graded card and then see the seller list some BS about it being soooo much better than the professional grade given that I usually lose all interest in the card and that seller. >>



    I never once said the card was horrible so whered you pull that out from???? I said the card has some paper loss on the back and was upfront with the buyer who purchased the card that there was some. I put scans of the card so anybody bidding could see what i was selling. Ive bought a couple cards from great lakes and am now realizing what their strategy is and what theyre about. >>



    Just amazed that someone bought this card for $675 with that terrible picture, poor description and no back scan......


  • << <i>MrMints obsession is pretty creepy, especially if he is really doing that stalker-ish type stuff.

    BlackItalian needs to learn how to not keep drama going so the foolishness can subside. Obviously MrMint is getting some strange kick out of getting under BlackItalians skin.

    Both you guys are creeping me and probably a lot of other people out around here. I dont think I want to deal with either one of you. MrMint may not like 25 cents of too high shipping and start stalking me. BlackItalian may not be able to find dry corn flakes. MBMiller has it right...take it somewhere else. My advice is to kiss and make up. >>



    LOL.....no kissing cuz mrmint might like that since he likes stalking men. Im done with that guy, next step is to take a trip to his city and take a big dump on his front porch


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    << <i>THAT IS THE EXACT SAME CARD! DAMN WHOEVER BUYS THAT IS GETTING RIPPED OFF BIG TIME. THERES MINOR PAPER LOSS ON THE BACK AND THE MARKINGS ON THE BACK TOP LEFT. WOW ILL NEVER BUY ANY CARDS FROM THEM AGAIN >>



    Interesting thats not how you described the card in your auction...this is a direct qoute from your auction

    I HAVE FOR SALE MY T206 TY COBB IN VG/EX CONDITION. THIS CARD HAS NO CREASES, TEARS, PINHOLES AND HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED IN ANYWAY. LOOKS LIKE A 3 OR 4 TO ME. IM ONLY POSTING THIS FOR TODAY ONLY AT THIS PRICE!!!! BACK IS SWEET CAPORAL! HURRY AND GET THIS FAST

    Link to auction
    Blackitalian's description >>




    So Blackitalian used puffery to make the card sound way better than what it really was and then says on these boards the card is more or less horrible. LOL I guess Great Lakes just wanted to take it a step further and make it really look like a 3 or 4. If anything they are helping make Black's description of a 3 or 4 come true. Some sellers are just shady and that is why whenever I see a graded card and then see the seller list some BS about it being soooo much better than the professional grade given that I usually lose all interest in the card and that seller. >>



    I never once said the card was horrible so whered you pull that out from???? I said the card has some paper loss on the back and was upfront with the buyer who purchased the card that there was some. I put scans of the card so anybody bidding could see what i was selling. Ive bought a couple cards from great lakes and am now realizing what their strategy is and what theyre about. >>



    Just amazed that someone bought this card for $675 with that terrible picture, poor description and no back scan...... >>



    Actually sold it pretty quick. seller left positive feedback so he mustve really liked it. worked out for me cant complain
  • My heartfelt thanks to whoever showed blackitalian where the capslock key is.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.
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  • << <i>My heartfelt thanks to whoever showed blackitalian where the capslock key is. >>



    self-taught bro, self-taught! My heartfelt thanks to you for noticing and taking the time out to address it...lol
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923


    << <i>Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. >>



    Peter, Paul, and Mary.
  • Mrmint is okay in my book


    Roll Tide Roll!
    Scoreboard Malfunction
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Mrmint is okay in my book >>



    err...whatever.


  • << <i>Mrmint is okay in my book


    Roll Tide Roll! >>



    thats because you dont know how psycho he is. When he starts googling your family's info and texts you over and over again then we'll how you feel about him. anybody that stalks men has some serious issues
  • If what blackitalian is saying is true then it sounds like mrmint needs some help. If they have personal problems with eachother thats one thing but to invade somebodys privacy and try to ruin any of their sales is wrong. Sounds like some little kid stuff to me. mrmint a word of advice, grow up and be a man and move on. One of these days youre going to do that to the wrong person and get yourself hurt.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    This thread was not about blackitalian but about a T206 Cobb and how it had been altered and sold by Greatlakesauctionhouse. He chimed in and I proved the point that he Continuously LIES....I have not stalked him nor harassed him.....I did look up his info on the Internet after he threatened to not mail a card I bought from him......He has threatened to slap me and now take a dump on my front porch....Well bring your Blackitalian A$$ on down here to Alabama and see what happens.
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