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You have got to be kidding me!! Make your own AT!! Makes me want to vomit!
Tdec1000
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Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!
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Frankly, I wanted to buy it. For edification not nefarious purposes.
It is a bit worrying.
It will be interesting to read the FBs of the buyers to see when they start selling their instant toners.
Same stuff different name I would guess?
<< <i>The coin docs strike back. >>
Kinda makes you wonder.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>That guy went away for years, and I see he's back. In the summer of 2005 he lifted a picture of mine and used it in his auction. Some back-and-forth letters drafted by a lawyer friend and a few days later I had $50 in my pocket >>
Good for you Jeremy!! This guy is a crook of the worst kind....enabling others to be crooks.
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<< <i>So, what is this stuff? Would the EPA be interested? Would the USPS be interested? >>
I'm sure PCGS would be interested to see what this crap is. Probably a liquid sulfer solution.
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Ironic.
BTW - Have you seen the quotes of "feedback" in the auction... whoa
I think in one minute flat I could teach a brand new collector to weed these coins out of pile of NT coins. Surely collectors on this site look at enough coins to make the same differentiation.
<< <i>All of a sudden, the value of nicely toned coins becomes equal to the value of non-toned/blast white coins. As it should be.
Ironic. >>
Not quite Lets not forget about some of the other things that you can buy on Ebay such as ->> http://cgi.ebay.com/12-E-Zest-Coin-Jewelry-Cleaner-5oz-Gold-Silver-E-Z-Est-/300521355368?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f877f868#ht_1895wt_798
I got a kick out of their use of the word "Natural".
I knew it would happen.
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<< <i>Customer Feedback
WOW!!THIS STUFF IS UNBELIEVEABLE!! well i took your advise,i started with some circulated silver rosevelt dimes.1st one was blacker than the ace of spades,by the time i did about 4 dimes i was starting to make some decent dimes.then i moved up to my au kennedy silver .50 cent pieces,man those turned out very nice.this stuff works pretty dog-gone fast,it needs to come of in a jiffy.i'm glad i took your advise doing a trial test with my cheapies,i tried it on a 1975 dime,it didn't appear to even phase it.but this stuff reacts super fast with pure silver.
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Hello I bought some of your toner, it is the great, I would like to purchase some more alot more, is this possable? I noticed you have only two available on auction i wan more and more, I did some coins they are so awesome, I tried it on the new quarters beautiful, morgans beautiful, peace dollars beautiful, I have trying to figure out for along time how to do this, you have the process you should market this. does not damage the coin or anything, I would like to buy alot of it.I love your product keep up the good work.
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hi, i resently won some of ur coin toner.it works great thanks...won 2 more last night...i want to know if u can sell me this product in larger amounts...and if so how much do u have and for how much...please let me know asap... thank you..
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hello again,i'm surprised at the results of this stuff.i plan to order again after you have this stuff with the screw-off lids.i have already left positive feedback for you,i would appreciate the same.thanks again
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Hi I could use a gallon, I totally love your product man you should see the coins I did they are awesome. No seriously make me an offer and put together some volume, I am not going to resale it in no way, my friends are going to freak when they see this, do you know how long I have been trying to make something to do this about 3 years no such luck. I know how to tone a penny and they look natural and great,you will be amazed at all the colors they are really nice, I made about 100. The problem I had is taking a picture and the colors showing on a copper coin. You started something I will be one of your big customer on this. I might let my friends no about you maybe. Anyway, put together a package deal and let me know I want this right away, I will even pay for fast shipping. >>
Is it just me or does this sound like five customer reviews from the same 'customer'?
<< <i>Use w/Morgan Peace Silver Franklin Dollar >>
But what if I don't have any Morgan Peace Silver Franklin Dollars?
<< <i>Come on, the three coins the guy has listed are gross. So me thinks the OP is pulling our leg.
I think in one minute flat I could teach a brand new collector to weed these coins out of pile of NT coins. Surely collectors on this site look at enough coins to make the same differentiation. >>
What are some of the tell tell signs of an artificially toned coin vs a naturally toned one?
--- Jack Handy
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<< <i>So, what is this stuff? Would the EPA be interested? Would the USPS be interested? >>
I'm sure PCGS would be interested to see what this crap is. Probably a liquid sulfer solution. >>
Liver of sulfur?
Cheers
You would think he would sell a cleaning dip to go with it.
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<< <i>100% Natural Coin Toner Solution
I got a kick out of their use of the word "Natural". >>
this is my favorite: My method and formula will not damage or destroy your coin because the actual solution will never come in contact with your coin.
dont forget your respirator!
this must be who is buying it... http://shop.ebay.com/lejeuene/m.html
<< <i>Is it just me or does this sound like five customer reviews from the same 'customer'? >>
Yea, he only had a few FBs.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
<< <i>I am not pulling anyone's leg. I believe that empowering the uneducated with the tools to deceive is wrong. Overnight coin doctors is something this hobby needs less of. >>
Oh I agree and don't get me started. Education is key, but I fear board members don't bother to take the time to look at enough toned coins to really begin to see that there is tremendous nuance, there are patterns by date/mm, there are known and unknown colors for date/mm of each series. It's like they look at a kid's painting and say it's a Picasso, or a Picasso and say it's a kid's painting.
Learning the nuances is the key to unlocking the AT/NT debate. Sticking to one series, and even a date range and looking at all the coins you can possibly get a hold is what it takes. This will save you 90% of the time in my estimation, in my opinion, maybe more. The rest honestly, we often leave up to PCGS, but even then it helps to be suspicious and to watch for new evolving patterns or new AT techniques. One emerged about six months or a year ago and astute collectors caught on, PCGS did too but not right away.
Let me restate:
Is there anybody posting on this board, who has collected coins for more than a couple weeks who is really fooled by the completely amateur toning depicted on the Ebay site in the OP?
Never view my other linked pages. They aren't coin related.
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<< <i>I am not pulling anyone's leg. I believe that empowering the uneducated with the tools to deceive is wrong. Overnight coin doctors is something this hobby needs less of. >>
Oh I agree and don't get me started. Education is key, but I fear board members don't bother to take the time to look at enough toned coins to really begin to see that there is tremendous nuance, there are patterns by date/mm, there are known and unknown colors for date/mm of each series. It's like they look at a kid's painting and say it's a Picasso, or a Picasso and say it's a kid's painting.
Learning the nuances is the key to unlocking the AT/NT debate. Sticking to one series, and even a date range and looking at all the coins you can possibly get a hold is what it takes. This will save you 90% of the time in my estimation, in my opinion, maybe more. The rest honestly, we often leave up to PCGS, but even then it helps to be suspicious and to watch for new evolving patterns or new AT techniques. One emerged about six months or a year ago and astute collectors caught on, PCGS did too but not right away.
Let me restate:
Is there anybody posting on this board, who has collected coins for more than a couple weeks who is really fooled by the completely amateur toning depicted on the Ebay site in the OP? >>
No that wasn't the intent of the Orignal Post. It was to show people what the toning craze has become. Yes there are individuals out there who would be fooled. Most likely newbies to the coin game.
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Well, uuuhhmmmm, if you put it that way........well, gosh.......of course not.
<< <i>100% Natural Coin Toner Solution
I got a kick out of their use of the word "Natural". >>
Yeah, at least he didn't say 'Organic'.
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