The story seems to have many loose ends. The concept that the defendant would simply take $430,000 worth of coins from a client's portfolio and expect them never to notice anything strikes me as unlikely. I'll await the verdict before I make any judgement.
<< <i>While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold.
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
tydye, that quote got my attention too. I'm sure that the D.A. thinks that she is "gilty".
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What does this mean? While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold.
<< <i>While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold.
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
tydye, that quote got my attention too. I'm sure that the D.A. thinks that she is "gilty". >>
I copied this quote to paste it here too. Just as I always find mistakes in scientific articles by laymen, this shows the total lack of understanding of the issues by this author and casts into question EVERY other "fact" in the story. Even without talk radio, I realized long ago that you really can't believe much of what you read without due diligence on the reader's part.
Wow the quote about gold coins being gilt makes me want to rip my face off. I'm sure that when the elderly lady was buying the coins she was told over and over they were a great hedge against inflation.
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<< <i>She's from Paradise Valley, AZ, outside Phoenix
Never heard of her.
What does this mean? While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
What does this mean?
It means whoever used the word gilt (gilding) either does not know what it means or does not know the coins or knows the coins are plated fakes.
90% gold is bad? What about 91.67%? Bullion? Proof?
I think they miss the numismatic versus the bullion connection.
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I question much of this article - albeit there is likely some wrongdoing at the root of it all. When blatant mistakes are included in a news article (very, very frequent problem), it only serves to show how far the media has fallen from what once was an honorable and trusted position. So much is written without confirmation (there is a process - or was a process - for fact checking) due to inept neophytes trying to become star reporters, and incompetent, biased editorial staff trying to fill columns, that it is no wonder the press is fading as a medium. Broadcast news is little better, if at all. In work I did before, it was mandatory to confirm information from three sources prior to delivering as fact. Obviously no one is doing this anymore. Such a pity. Cheers, RickO
She's obviously not a dealer, there's enough showing above the table that you would see the chili stains or at least mustard if she were legitimate. Unless they busted her at church...do dealers wear clean clothes to church?
<< <i>I question much of this article - albeit there is likely some wrongdoing at the root of it all. When blatant mistakes are included in a news article (very, very frequent problem), it only serves to show how far the media has fallen from what once was an honorable and trusted position. So much is written without confirmation (there is a process - or was a process - for fact checking) due to inept neophytes trying to become star reporters, and incompetent, biased editorial staff trying to fill columns, that it is no wonder the press is fading as a medium. Broadcast news is little better, if at all. In work I did before, it was mandatory to confirm information from three sources prior to delivering as fact. Obviously no one is doing this anymore. Such a pity. Cheers, RickO >>
How very true............ And this can be seen from local newspapers to national reporting. Kind of a take-off from "yellow journalism," if anybody remembers that term from so long ago. How truly sad.
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<< <i>While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
The writer sure did her research >>
I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. What an idiot.
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According to the article, "The two women were referred to Brown by coin brokerage firm ITM Trading Inc., which they heard about on talk radio, prosecutors said." I find it odd that ITM would send the business elsewhere, and I'd like to know the rest of the story.
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Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept "innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to a complete stop.
<< <i>Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept "innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to a complete stop. >>
If she is guilty, the Manhatten DA's office will handle it!
It looks like the writer of this story wasn't any more knowledgeable than the poor lady who was duped:
"While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold."
Collectable coins are not as safe as [bullion] gold because they have massive numismatic premiums.
Here is another gem:
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
Yep, keep your cash in a zero interest bearing account while the federal reserve engages in a massive taxation through inflation/hyperinflation. Even though gold has nearly quadripled in six years it makes for a lousy place to put your money.
<< <i>It looks like the writer of this story wasn't any more knowledgeable than the poor lady who was duped:
"While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold."
Collectable coins are not as safe as [bullion] gold because they have massive numismatic premiums.
Here is another gem:
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
Yep, keep your cash in a zero interest bearing account while the federal reserve engages in a massive taxation through inflation/hyperinflation. Even though gold has nearly quadripled in six years it makes for a lousy place to put your money. >>
I sent the writer of this article an email and asked her how often she consulted with this ADA for investment advice. Her editor must be very proud.
If she is found guilty, I'd be curious as to her sentence. A lawyer friend of mine had a fiduciary duty to protect a client trust account. He was scammed out of the funds and several elderly people lost their life savings as a result. He was disbarred, and was sentenced to 10 years in the big house (he served 7 years). He is now out and unemployable.
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<< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept "innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to a complete stop. >> Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks. I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere.
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<< <i><< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept "innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to a complete stop. >> Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks. I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere. >>
<< <i><< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept "innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to a complete stop. >> Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks. I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere. >>
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<< <i>I believe I know or know of virtually every "noted dealer" in the business (especially the female dealers because you can almost count all the prominent ones on your hands and feet) and I have never heard of the person named in the article. >>
So collectible coins are gilt, not solid gold? What else did the writer get wrong. The comment that the victim got introduced by talk radio strikes me as a detail of no importance unless this is a subtile strike at talk radio.
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<< <i><< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept "innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to a complete stop. >> Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks. I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere. >>
I did read the article -- she has been charged with this, not been found guilty. Did I miss a follow-up story?
<< <i>She's from Paradise Valley, AZ, outside Phoenix
Never heard of her.
What does this mean? While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
It probably means that the Daily News staff writer does not know what she is talking about.
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<< <i>Link >>
Frank, do you know of the woman???
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<< <i>While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
The writer sure did her research
<< <i>If I am not mistaken, I have seen her at major shows. >>
Her name does seem familiar.
Link
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
tydye, that quote got my attention too. I'm sure that the D.A. thinks that she is "gilty".
I knew it would happen.
Sounds like she is pure scam. Bet she isn't a coin dealer at all.
she left her previous job with ITM Trading and began her own business, GBA Gold, a/k/a GBA Investments LLC
http://www.itmtrading.com/
Never heard of her.
What does this mean?
While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold.
<< <i>What a loser >>
Who, the "dealer," or the woman and her daughter?
Frank - do you read the NY Daily News often?
<< <i>
<< <i>What a loser >>
Who, the "dealer," or the woman and her daughter?
Frank - do you read the NY Daily News often? >>
The link was posted in rec.collecting.coins
<< <i>While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold.
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
tydye, that quote got my attention too. I'm sure that the D.A. thinks that she is "gilty". >>
I copied this quote to paste it here too. Just as I always find mistakes in scientific articles by laymen, this shows the total lack of understanding of the issues by this author and casts into question EVERY other "fact" in the story. Even without talk radio, I realized long ago that you really can't believe much of what you read without due diligence on the reader's part.
--Jerry
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<< <i>She's from Paradise Valley, AZ, outside Phoenix
Never heard of her.
What does this mean?
While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
What does this mean?
It means whoever used the word gilt (gilding) either does not know what it means or does not know the coins or knows the coins are plated fakes.
90% gold is bad? What about 91.67%? Bullion? Proof?
I think they miss the numismatic versus the bullion connection.
As for the "female dealer", she needs to serve some hard time.
As a side note, be aware when it is time to get your loved one out from behind the steering wheel.
I've been going through a lot of these types of decisions in the past few years with one of my parents. It's not fun, but it must be taken care of. Maintain.
Thats a women ?
<< <i>Aint that a beauty!
I've never seen her or heard her name before and she would be hard to forget as she bears a very strong likeness to singer Robert Palmer!
<< <i>
<< <i>Aint that a beauty!
I've never seen her or heard her name before and she would be hard to forget as she bears a very strong likeness to singer Robert Palmer!
She makes Susan B. Anthony look hot.
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If she did it, send her to jail. That's a lot of gilt to steal.
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<< <i>I question much of this article - albeit there is likely some wrongdoing at the root of it all. When blatant mistakes are included in a news article (very, very frequent problem), it only serves to show how far the media has fallen from what once was an honorable and trusted position. So much is written without confirmation (there is a process - or was a process - for fact checking) due to inept neophytes trying to become star reporters, and incompetent, biased editorial staff trying to fill columns, that it is no wonder the press is fading as a medium. Broadcast news is little better, if at all. In work I did before, it was mandatory to confirm information from three sources prior to delivering as fact. Obviously no one is doing this anymore. Such a pity. Cheers, RickO >>
How very true............ And this can be seen from local newspapers to national reporting. Kind of a take-off from "yellow journalism," if anybody remembers that term from so long ago. How truly sad.
Larry L.
<< <i>
<< <i>While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
The writer sure did her research >>
I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. What an idiot.
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Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
"innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always
been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin
dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to
a complete stop.
<< <i>I've never seen her or heard her name before and she would be hard to forget as she bears a very strong likeness to singer Robert Palmer!
Hey, I think you're on to something here!!
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<< <i>Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept
"innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always
been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin
dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to
a complete stop. >>
If she is guilty, the Manhatten DA's office will handle it!
Tom
"While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold."
Collectable coins are not as safe as [bullion] gold because they have massive numismatic premiums.
Here is another gem:
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
Yep, keep your cash in a zero interest bearing account while the federal reserve engages in a massive taxation through inflation/hyperinflation. Even though gold has nearly quadripled in six years it makes for a lousy place to put your money.
<< <i>It looks like the writer of this story wasn't any more knowledgeable than the poor lady who was duped:
"While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold."
Collectable coins are not as safe as [bullion] gold because they have massive numismatic premiums.
Here is another gem:
"Gold coins are not a great hedge in these economic times," Assistant District Attorney Adam Kaufmann said after announcing Brown's arrest.
Yep, keep your cash in a zero interest bearing account while the federal reserve engages in a massive taxation through inflation/hyperinflation. Even though gold has nearly quadripled in six years it makes for a lousy place to put your money. >>
I sent the writer of this article an email and asked her how often she consulted with this ADA for investment advice. Her editor must be very proud.
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"innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always
been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin
dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to
a complete stop. >>
Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks.
I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere.
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<< <i><< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept
"innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always
been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin
dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to
a complete stop. >>
Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks.
I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere. >>
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<< <i><< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept
"innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always
been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin
dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to
a complete stop. >>
Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks.
I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere. >>
<< <i>I believe I know or know of virtually every "noted dealer" in the business (especially the female dealers because you can almost count all the prominent ones on your hands and feet) and I have never heard of the person named in the article. >>
So collectible coins are gilt, not solid gold? What else did the writer get wrong. The comment that the victim got introduced by talk radio strikes me as a detail of no importance unless this is a subtile strike at talk radio.
<< <i><< Nice that many of you guys have already convicted her. Any of you ever heard of the concept
"innocent until proven guilty?" As for the comments on her physical appearance, I have always
been amused by coin dealers "rating" the appearance of others. Taken as a group, male coin
dealers would break every mirror in the country, not to mention all the trucks that would come to
a complete stop. >>
Didn't you read the article Mikey? She stole $1,000,000 from a little old lady and $80,000 from her daughter who is also a little old lady and then $430,000 in gilty currency disks.
I know that her being a "bad girl" adds to her hotness, and that coin nerds would hit anything, but you have to draw the line smoewhere. >>
I did read the article -- she has been charged with this, not been found guilty. Did I miss a follow-up
story?
<< <i>She's from Paradise Valley, AZ, outside Phoenix
Never heard of her.
What does this mean?
While gold has traded at an all-time high, topping $1,400 an ounce in the past few days, collectible coins are not as safe as gold because they are gilt, not solid gold. >>
It probably means that the Daily News staff writer does not know what she is talking about.