Ambros prediction about what one facet of the "BiG OnE" is
ambro51
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For as long as we can remember, coin grading has been "subjective", and open to opinion. Coins are graded using one basic path, that being the accumulated experience and 'eye' of graders and finalizers who have "seen it all before". It is a visual and experience oriented comparison with the accepted grade patterns of that particular coin and series.
It has, up to this point, all been done 'mentally'. This has always been tempered with the word "subjective", and cannot be called scientific by any reasoning.
But, you say, how can coins be graded in an accurate and consistant manner, without using the "brain" of the graders?
......the most effective way would be a fool proof method of comparing the coin to be graded with those of a like date/type/series that are already 'wearing' a certain grade. With the advances in high quality scanning and digital photography, no doubt over the LAST TWO YEARS (as HRH notes).....a system has been developed using a vast compilation of data that PCGS has gathered together while grading.
Now, the most important part will be that for the most part, the "human" factor will be taken out of the mix. This will be replaced with LASER SCANNING of the coin, which will provide an exceptionally intricate and multi faceted way to compare the coin against the accepted grade standard. By the very detailed nature of this examination, all defects and wear related changes to the coin from the basis MS70 perfect standard can be measured and calculated. Toning, RD RB BN coloration, hairlines, cleanings, luster, quality of strike.......all will be analyzed by the LASER system and computer programs and a grade will be "Calculated and Assigned" which will be much less 'subjective'.
Photograding is not new. It has been tried and for the most part dismissed since up to this point the technology and intense work needed to perfect this has not been done. Over the last two years...I believe, PCGS has been working with the LASER GRADING system to iron out the bugs. No doubt, they have been using a twin grading system in house, and have been carefully studying the results of the LASER system, and the HUMAN system, and have arrived at the conclusion that they are ready to reveal that the LASER system gives more consistant results and proves a more accurate grade than has been to date possible.
After this announcement, coins will FLOOD back into PCGS for regrading by the new LASER system. The guesswork will be eliminated, the subjective nature of the human brain be taken out of the picture, and the NEW SYSTEM will be accepted by the coin collecting world as "the next step".
This will also provide an extensive and detailed record of the minor flaws that each graded coin has. Of course, having this in the data bank will help recovery of stolen coins, aid in the detection of counterfeits, and after a period of 'acceptance' by the collectors, result in a more trustworthy TPG experience.
............and dats what I think~!
It has, up to this point, all been done 'mentally'. This has always been tempered with the word "subjective", and cannot be called scientific by any reasoning.
But, you say, how can coins be graded in an accurate and consistant manner, without using the "brain" of the graders?
......the most effective way would be a fool proof method of comparing the coin to be graded with those of a like date/type/series that are already 'wearing' a certain grade. With the advances in high quality scanning and digital photography, no doubt over the LAST TWO YEARS (as HRH notes).....a system has been developed using a vast compilation of data that PCGS has gathered together while grading.
Now, the most important part will be that for the most part, the "human" factor will be taken out of the mix. This will be replaced with LASER SCANNING of the coin, which will provide an exceptionally intricate and multi faceted way to compare the coin against the accepted grade standard. By the very detailed nature of this examination, all defects and wear related changes to the coin from the basis MS70 perfect standard can be measured and calculated. Toning, RD RB BN coloration, hairlines, cleanings, luster, quality of strike.......all will be analyzed by the LASER system and computer programs and a grade will be "Calculated and Assigned" which will be much less 'subjective'.
Photograding is not new. It has been tried and for the most part dismissed since up to this point the technology and intense work needed to perfect this has not been done. Over the last two years...I believe, PCGS has been working with the LASER GRADING system to iron out the bugs. No doubt, they have been using a twin grading system in house, and have been carefully studying the results of the LASER system, and the HUMAN system, and have arrived at the conclusion that they are ready to reveal that the LASER system gives more consistant results and proves a more accurate grade than has been to date possible.
After this announcement, coins will FLOOD back into PCGS for regrading by the new LASER system. The guesswork will be eliminated, the subjective nature of the human brain be taken out of the picture, and the NEW SYSTEM will be accepted by the coin collecting world as "the next step".
This will also provide an extensive and detailed record of the minor flaws that each graded coin has. Of course, having this in the data bank will help recovery of stolen coins, aid in the detection of counterfeits, and after a period of 'acceptance' by the collectors, result in a more trustworthy TPG experience.
............and dats what I think~!
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
This opinion aside, explain to me why any business would introduce a service which would, by design, reduce and eventually eliminate their profitability.
This will also provide an extensive and detailed record of the minor flaws that each graded coin has. Of course, having this in the data bank will help recovery of stolen coins, aid in the detection of counterfeits, and after a period of 'acceptance' by the collectors, result in a more trustworthy TPG experience. >>
Could this be the end of the crackout game for all coins now graded by the "Laser" system??
EAC 6024
Frankly, I think only something of this magnitude would live up to HRH's run up. What else would be so Game Changing?
on technology just keep shrinking.
I still hope the big news is the return of the open forum.
indeed, who would have though, lets say a decade ago, that nearly every teenager would have a computer in their pocket (iPhone etc).
But really, Im thinking the crackout game will be dead.
EAC 6024
I do like your very active imagination though.
Space shuttles practically fly themselves but it still takes human intervention to grade a coin.
peacockcoins
Got into a bit of a friendly argument with my dad. I bought an AU58 Seated Half Dollar a few months ago, toned just the way I like it. It had a green bean and I paid a little strong for it but even so it was much less than MS money and perfect for my type set. I'm happy with the purchase. My dad started going over it with the loupe pointing out all the flaws and why it really wasn't a 58. I think he was just jealous
Doesn't matter whether humans came up with the grade on the plastic or a computer does, reasonable people can and will disagree, and if the coin is ugly it doesn't matter what a computer says.
-Fred
Successful BST (me as buyer) with: Collectorcoins, PipestonePete, JasonRiffeRareCoins
However, I feel that the $1000 Check will ONLY be seen by the fine eatery that HRH, Donny and the Crew will be going to tonight, for a good laugh, Lobster tail, and some fine wine.