Let's put it this way.....those that think it's not a monster colorwise (not gradewise) for the date and mint....please post your 1941-D with nicer toning because frankly I haven't seen one. Sure it's not a rare coin in the grade but that green color is so tough to find on the early 40's Lincolns. I would say it would sell for many multiples of guide if it went up on Ebay....how much is anyones guess but I would probably be an underbidder...
Shane's right. Monster designation tracks with the date/mm.
Sunnywood and others showed this in their Morgan collections. In other words, good luck finding a 1921 Morgan that has the same color and luster as an 81S or 86/87. In lincoln collecting, 1956 and 1957 are the big color years followed by 1947-1954, 58', 1941D, then 1909, then 1938, 1910, 1911, 35S, etc.
I suspect the greens and purples are better than shown by this photo! Jeff
So I have a question. Are the years outlined by you based on MS years or Proof years, or is there no differentiation between the two? I may be ignorant, but I'm still curious.
I swear when I first saw that coin Indagadadavita by Iron Butterfly entered my brain.
MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>Sorry, most people don't collect Lincoln toners by date... >>
That's like saying "most people don't collect troll dolls by the color of their hair." Oh wait, I did. Well, then that's like saying "most people don't collect souvenir spoons by each U.S. State." Oh, wait, I did. So I guess collecting toned Lincolns by date (and toned Indian cents for that matter) will continue keeping me out of the "most people" club.
By the way Lloyd, that is one gorgeously toned Lincoln cent, and I certainly wouldn't kick it out of my collection!
So I have a question. Are the years outlined by you based on MS years or Proof years, or is there no differentiation between the two? I may be ignorant, but I'm still curious. >>
Hey Erickso1, I was giving MS dates, I could sit and be more thorough but I just banged of those dates from the top of my head. There are others with more frequent color and it could be related to slight alloy changes, planchet handling or preparation or a tendency for them to be put in specific environment. For example, my impression is that an aweful lot of 1909's ended up in tissue and in albums because they were a special date.
Even then, the environment seems to have to be just right for a coin to pick up good color instead of brown, and so a small percentage toned beautifully. Plus I've always suspected that a very light buffing with a horse hair brush or somethingg of that nature was common, and that treatment pre-album preps the surfaces just right to pick up color. That after seeing many many many ring or peripherally toned lincolns from albums that have an ever so slight peachy center, and seeing many people try to submit those coins and NGC/PCGS bagging them for cleaning. But some get through, just like silver, those with market acceptable surfaces.
On the other hand the tissue paper coins seemed to pick up greens and purples, and the ones put in envelopes tended to either pick up granular browns but with aqua/purple highlightsbut could be blue/red at angles. And I'm not talking about the icky bright purple that comes with treatment (Ammonia/ms70).
Those are my current opinions, but they seem to change monthly. Jeff
<< <i>I guess i am not a Lincoln guy Lee.Best,Lloyd >>
Lloyd, I know you have some monster indians >>
Just one that you didnt think would be an NGC MS66RD CAC. >>
Nope I still dont think that coin should have gotten a Red but then again that my opinion based off of an image. I am sure I am not the only one either. I also have seen a handfull of red coins in NGC holders with cac stickers that were not red. I still dont think the coins a red based on the image or the cac sticker, Red is a very tough color to get to show in images especially pure red coins.
I'd want to see it in hand. The more I look at the photo, the more I think something isn't right about how the color looks to me on my screen with regards to how it would look in hand.
Everytime you post I feel the need to put on protective eyewear or my glasses from Avatar.................MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Chris' photography is fantastic, so fantastic in fact that I am now SECOND GUESSING selling that coin two weeks ago.
But it's a terrific example of the importance of examining coins in hand for personal preference.
In hand, I felt the green is very very dark, the coin almost dissapears in darkness, and so it didn't match the rest of my green lincolns. But boy does it look good now!
Chris' photography is fantastic, so fantastic in fact that I am now SECOND GUESSING selling that coin two weeks ago.
But it's a terrific example of the importance of examining coins in hand for personal preference.
In hand, I felt the green is very very dark, the coin almost dissapears in darkness, and so it didn't match the rest of my green lincolns. But boy does it look good now!
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peacockcoins
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
Monster? No.
-Paul
There's probably a correlation with color for this issue.
Nice one, Lloyd! Here's one of those 67RB's but not nearly as colorful as yours!
Lance.
but it looks nice on the obverse
Nice? Yes, truly lovely. Monster? No.
Best wishes,
Eric
Sunnywood and others showed this in their Morgan collections. In other words, good luck finding a 1921 Morgan that has the same color and luster as an 81S or 86/87. In lincoln collecting, 1956 and 1957 are the big color years followed by 1947-1954, 58', 1941D, then 1909, then 1938, 1910, 1911, 35S, etc.
I suspect the greens and purples are better than shown by this photo!
Jeff
So I have a question. Are the years outlined by you based on MS years or Proof years, or is there no differentiation between the two? I may be ignorant, but I'm still curious.
Empty Nest Collection
<< <i>LLoyd i have a nice 41-P to match that
Lincoln dropping acid.............been there
I swear when I first saw that coin Indagadadavita by Iron Butterfly entered my brain.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>LLoyd i have a nice 41-P to match that
Lincoln dropping acid.............been there
MJ >>
Shoulda kept this one:
Lincoln set Colorless Set
<< <i>I guess i am not a Lincoln guy Lee.Best,Lloyd
Lloyd, I know you have some monster indians
Nice coin Lloyd.
<< <i>Sorry, most people don't collect Lincoln toners by date... >>
That's like saying "most people don't collect troll dolls by the color of their hair." Oh wait, I did. Well, then that's like saying "most people don't collect souvenir spoons by each U.S. State." Oh, wait, I did. So I guess collecting toned Lincolns by date (and toned Indian cents for that matter) will continue keeping me out of the "most people" club.
By the way Lloyd, that is one gorgeously toned Lincoln cent, and I certainly wouldn't kick it out of my collection!
The Penny Lady®
<< <i>Is this?
Yes, Matt. Yes it is. Top pop too. Great taste you have.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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<< <i>I guess i am not a Lincoln guy Lee.Best,Lloyd
Lloyd, I know you have some monster indians
Just one that you didnt think would be an NGC MS66RD CAC.
<< <i>Jeff,
So I have a question. Are the years outlined by you based on MS years or Proof years, or is there no differentiation between the two? I may be ignorant, but I'm still curious. >>
Hey Erickso1,
I was giving MS dates, I could sit and be more thorough but I just banged of those dates from the top of my head. There are others with more frequent color and it could be related to slight alloy changes, planchet handling or preparation or a tendency for them to be put in specific environment. For example, my impression is that an aweful lot of 1909's ended up in tissue and in albums because they were a special date.
Even then, the environment seems to have to be just right for a coin to pick up good color instead of brown, and so a small percentage toned beautifully. Plus I've always suspected that a very light buffing with a horse hair brush or somethingg of that nature was common, and that treatment pre-album preps the surfaces just right to pick up color. That after seeing many many many ring or peripherally toned lincolns from albums that have an ever so slight peachy center, and seeing many people try to submit those coins and NGC/PCGS bagging them for cleaning. But some get through, just like silver, those with market acceptable surfaces.
On the other hand the tissue paper coins seemed to pick up greens and purples, and the ones put in envelopes tended to either pick up granular browns but with aqua/purple highlightsbut could be blue/red at angles. And I'm not talking about the icky bright purple that comes with treatment (Ammonia/ms70).
Those are my current opinions, but they seem to change monthly.
Jeff
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I guess i am not a Lincoln guy Lee.Best,Lloyd
Lloyd, I know you have some monster indians
Just one that you didnt think would be an NGC MS66RD CAC.
Nope I still dont think that coin should have gotten a Red but then again that my opinion based off of an image. I am sure I am not the only one either. I also have seen a handfull of red coins in NGC holders with cac stickers that were not red. I still dont think the coins a red based on the image or the cac sticker, Red is a very tough color to get to show in images especially pure red coins.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>Everytime you post I feel the need to put on protective eyewear or my glasses from Avatar.................MJ >>
LOL
I would name that one envy
The flip side of this 55 end roll toner is solid red
<< <i>sweet looking '35!
I would name that one envy >>
thanks
this one i call "The Joker"
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<< <i>sweet looking '35!
I would name that one envy >>
thanks
this one i call "The Joker"
Very pretty copper pennies.
<< <i>Nice? Yes.
Monster? No.
-Paul >>
<< <i>I can't lie, that 1910 is amazing!
Very pretty. You don't see many like that.
- Bob -

MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
<< <i>
<< <i>sweet looking '35!
I would name that one envy >>
thanks
this one i call "The Joker"
Chris' photography is fantastic, so fantastic in fact that I am now SECOND GUESSING selling that coin two weeks ago.
But it's a terrific example of the importance of examining coins in hand for personal preference.
In hand, I felt the green is very very dark, the coin almost dissapears in darkness, and so it didn't match the rest of my green lincolns. But boy does it look good now!
Jeff
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>sweet looking '35!
I would name that one envy >>
thanks
this one i call "The Joker"
Chris' photography is fantastic, so fantastic in fact that I am now SECOND GUESSING selling that coin two weeks ago.
But it's a terrific example of the importance of examining coins in hand for personal preference.
In hand, I felt the green is very very dark, the coin almost dissapears in darkness, and so it didn't match the rest of my green lincolns. But boy does it look good now!
Jeff >>
shall i add it onto your bill?