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Sometimes, much ballyhooed coin collections (edited) ARE all they are hyped up to be...

coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
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Recently, there has been much talk and publicity surrounding a collection of toned Morgan Dollars which was acquired by a well known dealer from an allegedly (edited: image )
extremely discerning collector. The coins were supposedly gorgeous, beautifully toned, yada, yada, yada. Well, I finally saw about 20 of them at Baltimore, and frankly, they looked fairly ordinary to me. (Edited: image )

Below, are images of two of them which I had for sale, but which are no longer available.



















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Is it just me, or are they more or less, run of the mill toners, the likes of which you see all over the place and in large quantities?


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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,444 ✭✭✭
    I dont understand your post. and then the smiley face?
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    While they are nice, they are not GSAGUY quality.image Thus no multiples of grade price
    for the toning.
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    They are very nice for MS 63... image
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    I'm not so sure that a smiley face will bear the weight of your humor.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    And where does a collector buy holder with inlaid gold leaves? image
  • Marauderrt10Marauderrt10 Posts: 1,097 ✭


    << <i>While they are nice, they are not GSAGUY quality.image Thus no multiples of grade price
    for the toning. >>

    personally i was not impressed with the coins.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't really know what to make of this thread...but as I read it, I keep thinking that we're all just a little like cattle being led to slaughter.
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    Well guys we all know coinguy1 hardly ever sees any coins, not to mention good ones, so he can be forgiven for his naivety.



    (thankfully I noticed the winky near the bottom of his post and remembered that coinguy1 wouldn't have had the coins for sale in the first place if they weren't very to extremely nice or otherwise I might have made a fool of myself by attempting humor image )
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, but he edited his post a minute after posting it...maybe to add the winky and throw us a curve ball.

    image
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes, much ballyhoo is needed, to justify and hopefully support the prices that will be asked when they are offered on the market.
    Now the Jack Lee Walker set - those coins spoke volumes for themselves.
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  • OchoRealesOchoReales Posts: 1,500 ✭
    It would seem so.
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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425 ✭
    I don't recall the exact number of toners Laura bought from me but know that it was well over 100. If all you guys got to see at Baltimore was 20, unfortunately, that was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    Glad you moved the coins so quickly Mark.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    those coins need a dip! imageimage j/k
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do know one thong,

    Realone - thanks for the laugh. image

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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    I read right over that. image
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    My apologies (and embarrassment) for my apparent failed attempt at humor and the resulting confusion.

    I had thought that posting the images (of what I think are sensational looking coins) and winkie would make it obvious that the thread, including the following comment/question was in jest:

    <<Is it just me, or are they more or less, run of the mill toners, the likes of which you see all over the place and in large quantities?>>

    To be serious and clear, however, each and every coin that I saw from the collection - and I understand that I didn't even see the best ones- was breathtaking in its color and eye-appeal. It is simply an amazing and unforgettable group of coins.
  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    I happen to like both those dollars :-)
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My apologies (and embarrassment) for my apparent failed attempt at humor and the resulting confusion.

    OK - you're back in contention for future consignments. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lovely Morgans! got any more pics?

    image

  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭


    << <i>My apologies (and embarrassment) for my apparent failed attempt at humor and the resulting confusion.

    I had thought that posting the images (of what I think are sensational looking coins) and winkie would make it obvious that the thread, including the following comment/question was in jest:

    <<Is it just me, or are they more or less, run of the mill toners, the likes of which you see all over the place and in large quantities?>>

    To be serious and clear, however, each and every coin that I saw from the collection - and I understand that I didn't even see the best ones- was breathtaking in its color and eye-appeal. It is simply an amazing and unforgettable group of coins. >>



    I was impressed by them as well. And supposedly many of the nice ones sold long before Baltimore...
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They look like they were owned by gasguy, not gsaguy. image

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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425 ✭


    << <i>They look like they were owned by gasguy, not gsaguy. image

    I bought one - can't wait til Tuesday when it finally arrives! >>



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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭


    << <i>They look like they were owned by gasguy, not gsaguy. image

    I bought one - can't wait til Tuesday when it finally arrives! >>



    After some gumbo I think it was actually bought by the gasguy image

    image
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice pair of toned Morgans!
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>lovely Morgans! got any more pics?

    image >>

    I don't - sorry.
  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425 ✭
    Next time you guys see George, ask him what he thought of that chicken & sausage gumbo we served him.image
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice tarnished widgets.image
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting slabs
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,625 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting slabs >>



    Not slabs. Holders.
    Nice coins. Saw the email when it came out and they were waaaayyyyyy out of my league image but nice all the same image

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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Brings back some fond memories, met GSAguy, Mark and Lake at Fun 2003?. Brian's coins were spectacular and he was nice enough to show them off to me, Mark was as congenial as one could be at a show and lake is a great guy and had the fortune to have supper with him one night. Good group of guys all around.
  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eh, I still for whatever reason do not like wild toned coins. To me it looks like an oil slick. I can see the appeal they may have for some people, but I personally prefer circ-cam look with circulated coins, and untoned for MS coins.
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Very nicely toned pair,and the best never come first.Congrats to everyone involved.image
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  • kurtdogkurtdog Posts: 1,456


    << <i>I dont understand your post. and then the smiley face? >>


    Now, Hyperion, pay attention. This is your average, run-of-the-mill, Collector's Universe smiley face: image......
    This, OTOH, is a Collector's Universe winky face: image......
    image (......and that's a Collector's Universe Bid Grin face)
  • coinut1799coinut1799 Posts: 318
    Another dealer, who is known to post here, bought 7 or 8 of the toned dollars from Legend. No offense CoinGuy1, but they killed the ones you shared in this post. (although they are certainly very nice). I didn't even bother to ask about price because I know they are waaaaay out of my league. And, FYI, some credit should be given to Andy Kimmel of Paragon, who sold a number of the toned dollars to GSAguy years ago.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Another dealer, who is known to post here, bought 7 or 8 of the toned dollars from Legend. No offense CoinGuy1, but they killed the ones you shared in this post. (although they are certainly very nice). I didn't even bother to ask about price because I know they are waaaaay out of my league. And, FYI, some credit should be given to Andy Kimmel of Paragon, who sold a number of the toned dollars to GSAguy years ago. >>

    No offense taken. And if it is the group I'm thinking of, they are amazing.
  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    I wanted at least one example for my collection and contacted Legend only to be told they didn't have any coins from his collection for sale at the $1000 or less price point I was looking for image


    So Bryan...did you save any scraps for those of us who don't have the budget to spend a couple of grand for a coin image
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Simply beautiful...(the coins, not the OP)
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  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>While they are nice, they are not GSAGUY quality.image Thus no multiples of grade price
    for the toning. >>

    personally i was not impressed with the coins. >>




    I am assuming you were joking along the same lines that Mark was initially or no?
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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425 ✭


    << <i>I wanted at least one example for my collection and contacted Legend only to be told they didn't have any coins from his collection for sale at the $1000 or less price point I was looking for image


    So Bryan...did you save any scraps for those of us who don't have the budget to spend a couple of grand for a coin image >>



    God made outrageous toners that were less than a grand per coin? Who knew?image
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wanted at least one example for my collection and contacted Legend only to be told they didn't have any coins from his collection for sale at the $1000 or less price point I was looking for image


    So Bryan...did you save any scraps for those of us who don't have the budget to spend a couple of grand for a coin image >>



    God made outrageous toners that were less than a grand per coin? Who knew?image >>

    Certainly not me.image
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  • NicNic Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where did the 78-cc's end up?

    K

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  • Marauderrt10Marauderrt10 Posts: 1,097 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wanted at least one example for my collection and contacted Legend only to be told they didn't have any coins from his collection for sale at the $1000 or less price point I was looking for image


    So Bryan...did you save any scraps for those of us who don't have the budget to spend a couple of grand for a coin image >>



    God made outrageous toners that were less than a grand per coin? Who knew?image >>

    ive certainly got outrageous toners for under $1000, they are out there.
  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425 ✭


    << <i>Where did the 78-cc's end up?

    K >>



    Don't know for sure but it sounded like they might not see the light of day for some time. Beautiful 78-CC's. Never saw anything like them before, or since.
    image
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,258 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I wanted at least one example for my collection and contacted Legend only to be told they didn't have any coins from his collection for sale at the $1000 or less price point I was looking for image


    So Bryan...did you save any scraps for those of us who don't have the budget to spend a couple of grand for a coin image >>



    God made outrageous toners that were less than a grand per coin? Who knew?image >>

    ive certainly got outrageous toners for under $1000, they are out there. >>



    One man's outrageous toner is another man's coppertone tan. image
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