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Einsteins at ILNA strike again

I have to hand it to the board of ILNA for being completely ignorant to a portion of their membership. The ILNA 50th anniversary show is scheduled for for September 17-19 which just so happens to be during Yom Kippur. Now I know that the Jewish calendar is a mystery to some, but the holiest day of the year is on most main stream calenders. For those of you who are not familiar with Jewish traditions, Yom Kippur is the day Jews spend the day fasting and praying. Essentially ALL Jews attend some sort of service to the same extent that even non-practicing Christians attend some sort of service on Christmas and Easter. There are a lot of Jews in the Chicagoland area and who have been supporters of ILNA for years. Would anyone schedule a show on Christmas or Easter? My guess is absolutely not because of the outrage of the membership. The fact that this 50th anniversary show was scheduled then is appalling.

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sounds like they have time to realize the mistake and fix it
  • You should notify them, perhaps they will make a change.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's certainly going to kill hot dog concessions!




    (I am also Jewish, so it's fair game for me to make light of it. image
  • Sometimes you must make reservations years in advance for hall rental.
    We planned the spring Michigan State show in Flint 5 years before the show.
    We had to consult a Catholic Priest to make sure the show date would not fall on Easter.
    When Easter occurs has to do with the phases of the moon or something.
    These religious holidays can be a real pain when it comes to planning shows years ahead of time.
    At least Christmas comes in the same month and the same day each year.

    Ray

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Einsteins at ILNA strike again

    Einstein was Jewish, so the "Einsteins" probably knew what they were doing. image
  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    I have a Jewish calendar that has the dates of everything for the next 100+ years. Yes you asked a priest because it matters to YOU. Why not ask a Jew, we don't bite
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We had to consult a Catholic Priest to make sure the show date would not fall on Easter.
    When Easter occurs has to do with the phases of the moon or something. >>



    Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of Spring unless the first day of Spring falls on a Sunday and there is also a full moon in which case Easter is on the following Sunday.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,470 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>We had to consult a Catholic Priest to make sure the show date would not fall on Easter.
    When Easter occurs has to do with the phases of the moon or something. >>



    Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of Spring unless the first day of Spring falls on a Sunday and there is also a full moon in which case Easter is on the following Sunday. >>



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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    Please pardon my ignornace, but the holiday you refer to is 3 days long or 1 day?

    The show runs for 3 days, so unless the holiday is 3 days, can't you go on one of the days that is not the holiday?
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  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    Well the holiday is 1 day but there is a big caveat to that. Because it is a fast day, preparation typically begins the day before as with most Jewish holidays. And since you are supposed to have a "feast" before the fast which starts at 6 PM, that kills half the day before. Jewish dealers will not be willing to come into town to take a table and really local Jewish dealers would not take a table. As I said, it very much parallels Easter in that it is one day but noone would EVER plan a show then.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very few things will be 100% to 100% of the people. Someone will always have a reason/issue to not go.
    It's happened to me on some shows I wanted to go to, but couldn't.

    Too many shows and they all have their own timelines/agendas.

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  • << <i>Very few things will be 100% to 100% of the people. Someone will always have a reason/issue to not go.
    It's happened to me on some shows I wanted to go to, but couldn't.

    Too many shows and they all have their own timelines/agendas. >>



    Well, this isn't some obscure holiday for some obscure religion that only a handful of people in the world would be affected by. It's the holiest day of the year for millions upon millions of people.
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,898 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sometimes you must make reservations years in advance for hall rental.
    We planned the spring Michigan State show in Flint 5 years before the show.
    We had to consult a Catholic Priest to make sure the show date would not fall on Easter.
    When Easter occurs has to do with the phases of the moon or something.
    These religious holidays can be a real pain when it comes to planning shows years ahead of time.
    At least Christmas comes in the same month and the same day each year.

    Ray >>



    Actually it doesn't. Orthodox and Coptic religions still use a calendar that puts Christmas in early January. They also often don't agree on the date for Easter.
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  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So when the show hits and there are maqny many less in appearance lets not here the show promoters complain about it since they obviously did no checking on the dates with two major religions and the two major customers. My bet is that they will learn a big one form this one, and my prediction is it won't happen again. Glad Bochiman isn't running these thigns otherwise these types of things would happen regularlyimage >>



    Not to be too big of a P.I.T.A. but dont be so sure about learning. CSNS planned their big show a couple years back on Passover and then badmouthed dealers for leaving early to prepare for the Seder. For those non-Jews out there, the first Seder is something almost all Jews (and many non-Jews do as it was the last supper)
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you asked them why they made such a scheduling blunder, what was their reason?

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  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to hand it to the board of ILNA for being completely ignorant to a portion of their membership. The ILNA 50th anniversary show is scheduled for for September 17-19 which just so happens to be during Yom Kippur. Now I know that the Jewish calendar is a mystery to some, but the holiest day of the year is on most main stream calenders. For those of you who are not familiar with Jewish traditions, Yom Kippur is the day Jews spend the day fasting and praying. Essentially ALL Jews attend some sort of service to the same extent that even non-practicing Christians attend some sort of service on Christmas and Easter. There are a lot of Jews in the Chicagoland area and who have been supporters of ILNA for years. Would anyone schedule a show on Christmas or Easter? My guess is absolutely not because of the outrage of the membership. The fact that this 50th anniversary show was scheduled then is appalling. >>



    Greenie - the reason that ILNA scheduled their show on 9/17-19 was that Long Beach had their show on the same weekend as ours. No one on the ILNA Board, to my knowledge, had any idea about Yom Kippur. Just to put your mind at ease for 2010, we are back on the weekend after Labor Day at the convention center in Tinley Park. For future dates I will see to it that ILNA does not have any conflict with Yom Kippur or any other important religious holiday. And Greenie - if you have a question or concern about ILNA, please feel free to contact me by PM here on the forums or secretary@ilnaclub.org.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,284 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So when the show hits and there are many many less in appearance lets not hear the show promoters complain about it since they obviously did zero checking on the dates with two major religions and the two major customers. My bet is that they will learn a big one form this one, and my prediction is it won't happen again. Glad Bochiman isn't running these things otherwise these types of things would happen regularlyimage >>



    Nice shot at me. Glad you got that in. I could take one back at you, but I feel like taking a higher road.

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  • dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>So when the show hits and there are maqny many less in appearance lets not here the show promoters complain about it since they obviously did no checking on the dates with two major religions and the two major customers. My bet is that they will learn a big one form this one, and my prediction is it won't happen again. Glad Bochiman isn't running these thigns otherwise these types of things would happen regularlyimage >>



    Not to be too big of a P.I.T.A. but dont be so sure about learning. CSNS planned their big show a couple years back on Passover and then badmouthed dealers for leaving early to prepare for the Seder. For those non-Jews out there, the first Seder is something almost all Jews (and many non-Jews do as it was the last supper) >>



    CSNS badmouthing Jewish dealers because they were leaving early to prepare for the Seder? What a bunch of imageholes (I know who they are, and one of them rhymes with "sleazebo".)
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,499 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>We had to consult a Catholic Priest to make sure the show date would not fall on Easter.
    When Easter occurs has to do with the phases of the moon or something. >>



    Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of Spring unless the first day of Spring falls on a Sunday and there is also a full moon in which case Easter is on the following Sunday. >>




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  • <<Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of Spring unless the first day of Spring falls on a Sunday and there is also a full moon in which case Easter is on the following Sunday. >>

    True, except the Church considers March 21 as the first day of spring and the 14th day of the moon as the full moon. It almost always works out the same way if you use the correct astronomical dates and times. One exception is 2019. Astronomically Easter would be March 24, the western church has it as April 21 while the Eastern church will be April 28.

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