Thanks to Mr Hall for checking out one of my coins!!See Mark Goodman's photos on Pg3&4 for your
Realone
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I sent a coin to him for his review, and he returned it with a note initialled by his holiness, much appreciated on a great coin.
Mark Goodman will be photgraphing it later this week.
BTW, It is an 1825 10c JR-5 MS64 PCGS R -5. And i wanted to know if it was accurately graded but I wanted to make sure that not only the graders reviewed but that he saw it too and to get his opinion on it, besides having the proper attribution put on the label. It is a pretty important coin in my collection and although it has a great appearance and provenance there was a spot or two that I wasn't sure about and the obv and rev were prooflike and the rev had toning on the eagle that I was unfamiliar with even though the spots have always been described in the many catgalogs that it has appeared in. The coin passed and he liked it,
so my year is made!
Another great service provided by PCGS.
Mark Goodman will be photgraphing it later this week.
BTW, It is an 1825 10c JR-5 MS64 PCGS R -5. And i wanted to know if it was accurately graded but I wanted to make sure that not only the graders reviewed but that he saw it too and to get his opinion on it, besides having the proper attribution put on the label. It is a pretty important coin in my collection and although it has a great appearance and provenance there was a spot or two that I wasn't sure about and the obv and rev were prooflike and the rev had toning on the eagle that I was unfamiliar with even though the spots have always been described in the many catgalogs that it has appeared in. The coin passed and he liked it,
so my year is made!
Another great service provided by PCGS. 0
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I bet you got all kinds of warm fuzzies inside.
What did Hall's note say?
<< <i>was that a free service? >>
Brown Nose Express Service™
roadrunner
<< <i>I assume that we're talking about this one ...
1825 10c, JR.5, MS64 (PCGS) ex Heritage 4/2009:90
I'm glad that you found someone else who likes it. >>
Ouch!
What did it look like in the 1980 and 1990 auctions?
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I really like the obverse of your dime, the reverse less so. But overall it is a rather pleasant looking coin but having a note from HRH and keeping it with the coin is a nice added touch. Of course, getting a sticker would be a bonus. Will it sticker? 40% chance it will sticker in my view. It probably looks MUCH better in person.
You and I know how tough the stickering can get on these coins.
Regardless, that is indeed a tough coin to locate and what a provenance!
roadrunner
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<< <i>I assume that we're talking about this one ...
1825 10c, JR.5, MS64 (PCGS) ex Heritage 4/2009:90
I'm glad that you found someone else who likes it. >>
Ouch!
Double ouch
<< <i>That does explain things a bit.
I agree, and it is fascinating!
The plot thickens....
(Sorry, Realone, just trying to lighten the mood
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I think that the price paid for this was very strong, but it is a nice coin.
Looks to be secondary toning and the spots would concern me at that high price point.
I too agree that an opinion from a true third party would trump an opinion from a vested party.
Well said.
As for HRH volunteering his comments....isn't that what you paid for? The review, of which he is part, that costs money? I have some coins I sent for review before as well. I didn't ask him for additional info but I did get his handwritten notes on them. That was a service that was paid for though.
Also, sounds like you are splitting hairs on the "sending them to CAC" thing for your coins. If heritage sends them, but you are paying for it AND it is at YOUR insistence (agreement with them), then it sounds to me like you ARE sending them to CAC, just through a middleman.
If you want CAC, then fine....just don't split hairs and hide behind "it wasn't me...it was heritage"...."but, um, well, it is my agreement with them and I pay for it".
You like the coin. You paid for it with your money. No big deal who likes it or not. But, when you start dealing in coins that have a reputation and can be remembered (ie...people have notes and remember them), then prepare to have people comment on threads you start about such coins.
I'm just sayin'.....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
is a dangerous place to play in
<< <i>the high end of numismatics
is a dangerous place to play in >>
At the very least, it helps to have thick skin.
Perhaps dealers should go to the Lauraland Forum where your agenda can be bounced of each other rather than here. After all these years it has still stayed the same.
You have a happy collector...but you piss on him. Great business style.
<< <i>Interesting how the most cynical remarks were made here by DEALERS (other than CCU).
Perhaps dealers should go to the Lauraland Forum where your agenda can be bounced of each other rather than here. After all these years it has still stayed the same.
You have a happy collector...but you piss on him. Great business style. >>
Couldn't have said it any better, my friend.
is a dangerous place to play in >>
At the very least, it helps to have thick skin.
Apparently so.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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<< <i>Al: You're collecting by die marriage, right? A collector by variety will go nuts if he obsesses over condition like a collector by type. There is greater value in Joe's observation -- "a great example of 1825 JR.5" -- than in PCGS's opinion of the grade. Variety collectors take 'em as best we can find them (even those that would be spurned by a type collector), and you happened to find a great one with wonderful provenance. >>
Well said.
Perhaps dealers should go to the Lauraland Forum where your agenda can be bounced of each other rather than here. After all these years it has still stayed the same.
You have a happy collector...but you piss on him. Great business style. "
Thanks for saying what alot of collectors on this forum feel. Not everyone is thick skinned and not everyone expects to be torn apart, actually most are feeling pretty good when they post an awesome coin like this one, only to be so picked apart as if the coin is not a great find.
JMO
AL
john
I was just thinking, it is kinda funny in a sick sort of way. I collect orchids (cattleyas) and seashells (conidae), and sure the orchid folks can be a little snooty, but they don't eat their own the way some in this hobby do!
Hang on, am I reading this correctly? Is it correct that Joe didn't mention that the dime was cleaned in an auction catalog description he wrote a long time ago, but now he says the dime was cleaned and is toned over? If my understanding is correct, is this difference due to something that happened with the coin over the past 20 years, an honest change of opinion, auction description editing by someone else, or did Joe suspect the dime was cleaned when he wrote the catalog description, but omit mention of cleaning for some reason? The latter explanation is hard to believe, but maybe there was a good reason even if that's what happened?
It would be interesting to see that catalog description.