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Why are 'with motto' seated quarters pops from 1866 thru 1875 s so little?

bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
Except for the 1875 philadelphia mint, anyone know why pcgs pops are so thin on these dates....?
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Combination of extensive use, low mintage and high melting. These are still sleepers IMO. They have gone up, but I ALWAYS look for certain dates in this group...
  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's my one lone example, a scarcer date too. PCGS EF-40

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice one Mr Elmerfusterpuck.
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  • << <i>Nice one Mr Elmerfusterpuck. >>



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  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    To answer the question from 1866 to 1872 is because the combined mintage of all coins for these dates is only 872,005 coins made. This includes the San Francisco mint which coins saw heavy circulation. Most surviving coins are low grade and many have problems. Finding any of these dates in problem free is extremely difficult. We must also factor in melting of many of the 1870's coins attributable to the "Crime of 1873" and the weight change.

    1873 no arrows coins 216,000 coins including the highly prized 1873 cc no arrows. The 1873 cc coins has a mintage of 4000 coins all but 5 examples remain, the rest presumably were melted. The 1873 no arrows philly coins also saw extensive melting. Just try and find one especially the highly prized closed 3.

    For the the with arrows coins we had a combined mintage of 7,414,832. I don't really have a good reason why you don't see higher pops on the Philly coins as numerous coins were struck. The San Fran coins had minor mintage of only 1,228,000 in 1873,1874 and 1875. The loan Carson City coins 140,000 minted in 1875 are very scarce.
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  • yup, problem free seated quarters of that era are hard to come by. a bunch are still around in unoriginal form though, check pops at anacs, icg, ncs, etc.
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many of these dates rarely turn up at all, and when they do, they are usually cleaned; and the "original" ones are frequently damaged (like my 1867-s below). The Seated Quarter series is not one for the lover of "perfect original" coins.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Many of these dates rarely turn up at all, and when they do, they are usually cleaned; and the "original" ones are frequently damaged (like my 1867-s below). The Seated Quarter series is not one for the lover of "perfect original" coins.

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    Is the damage on your coin from scrapes on the reverse at 4 o clock? Just curious as it doesn't look to bad.
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is some kind of a shallow dent or corrosion patch on Liberty's knee; a couple of unevenly worn spots at 4:00 on the obverse; and a few rim dings on the reverse. And you're right- it isn't so bad for an 1867-s quarter! They usually look much worse, if you can even find one. Many that I have seen are cleaned / hairlined.

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