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Rock Tumbler or Vibrator for Restoring Cleaned Coins?
moosesr
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I have been carrying several harshly cleaned VAM Morgan and Peace dollars around in my pockets hoping to bring them back to where they can be certified. I have been doing this for several months with only slight improvement. Has anyone on the forum successfully used a Rock Tumbler or Vibrator for restoring harshly cleaned coins?
Thanks,
Charlie
Thanks,
Charlie
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a pocket full of silver dollars don't get enough edge-to-surface contact to effectively abrade away the cleaning issues.
K S
<< <i>if your gonna do this (the pocket thing) , to be really practical, you gotta have more then just dollars in the pocket. you must mix in smaller silver coins, too. dimes are the idea, maybe a roll of junk roosies. it DOES work, however can take awhile. a good idea is to polish the cleaned coins 1st so as to remove any randomized hairlines.
a pocket full of silver dollars don't get enough edge-to-surface contact to effectively abrade away the cleaning issues.
K S >>
<< <i>I agree with the dork, and vibrators only work on women. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
There would be less life on the surface of a tumbled coin then on Mars, as it would be like sandblasting.
IMHO this is not a solution for Restoring... Just Destroying.
the "pocket" method makes it more personal though.
if you do the tumbler, get some "clean dirt" ( a oxymoron if there ever was 1, basically you don't want any rocks, just organic material, preferably sifted, like manure, no i'm not kidding) & throw it in. keep decent moisture content as well. if it's too dry in the tumbler, you'll just end up w/ a bunch of scratchy coins. another good trick is to add in some machine oil.
it definitely DOES WORK, but you'll lose a little detail on all the coins.
K S
<< <i>I agree with the dork, and vibrators only work on women. >>
That's not what I heard. Ask judge David Young.
So does a Vibrator!
<< <i>dorkkarl... You don't recommend using other coins in the tumbler with the Morgans? >>
you still should. in fact, the smaller coins should outweigh the morgans by a factor of maybe 2, ie. have 20 dimes per morgan. you need lots of the little coins to be impacting the larger surfaces frequently & randomly of the big coins so the resulting abrasions are more "natural".
jeeeeez, all this talk of "artificially wearing" down of coins is giving me the urge to get the old tumbler back out & "fix" some coins!!!
K S
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<< <i>If you tried UtahCoin sewn shut pocket with change method... wouldn't a empty washing machine on a spin cycle do about the same, or maybe the dryer
Just be sure to use a Taco Bell napkin instead of a regular fabric softener sheet in the dryer.
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<< <i>I have been carrying several harshly cleaned VAM Morgan and Peace dollars around in my pockets hoping to bring them back to where they can be certified >>
I feel your pain here. I have an 1878 8TF VAM 5 that is absolutely trashed. I'll post pics this weekend.
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the "pocket" method makes it more personal though.
if you do the tumbler, get some "clean dirt" ( a oxymoron if there ever was 1, basically you don't want any rocks, just organic material, preferably sifted, like manure, no i'm not kidding) & throw it in. keep decent moisture content as well. if it's too dry in the tumbler, you'll just end up w/ a bunch of scratchy coins. another good trick is to add in some machine oil.
it definitely DOES WORK, but you'll lose a little detail on all the coins.
K S
The above works well. Clean dirt means dirt that has be heated to kill what's living in the soil. To get the moisture, pee is best. Morning pee is much better then night pee. If you have a few beers the night before so much the better.
Real coin wear will never happen until congress gets rid of the rag buck!
<< <i>I have been carrying several harshly cleaned VAM Morgan and Peace dollars around in my pockets hoping to bring them back to where they can be certified. I have been doing this for several months with only slight improvement. Has anyone on the forum successfully used a Rock Tumbler or Vibrator for restoring harshly cleaned coins?
Thanks,
Charlie >>
The results would be the same if you had to dry a wet T-Shirt by sticking yourself in a hot clothes dryer and running it for 30 minutes.
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<< <i>I have been carrying several harshly cleaned VAM Morgan and Peace dollars around in my pockets hoping to bring them back to where they can be certified >>
I feel your pain here. I have an 1878 8TF VAM 5 that is absolutely trashed. I'll post pics this weekend. >>
I got a 79 S VAM 34A that was cleaned, and im trying to do this.
Put your cleaned coins in your wife's car hubcaps.. Everyone will hear her coming & get out of the way !
<< <i>I have been carrying several harshly cleaned VAM Morgan and Peace dollars around in my pockets hoping to bring them back to where they can be certified. >>
Why do you need them certified? Are you afraid they are counterfeit? If they are truly "harshly" cleaned... I am willing to bet that no amount of doctoring will make them "original" enough to be certified by PCGS.
Lane
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Results:
Even wear, down to VG, with natural toning around the devices.
However, the polished look was still there! I was hoping for that unmistakable natural gray, dull appearance.
<< <i>I finally got a rock tumber and am trying to use it, but so far with no success. Does anyone have an example of a cleaned coin they have been able to get back to normal looking and into a TPG holder? >>
You don't understand English do you? What language do you speak?
You cannot restore a coin this way, and you'll only do more damage to it.
The only holder you'll get your coin into after tumbling is one of those made and sold by Coin World.
Ray
<< <i>if your gonna do this (the pocket thing) , to be really practical, you gotta have more then just dollars in the pocket. you must mix in smaller silver coins, too. dimes are the idea, maybe a roll of junk roosies. it DOES work, however can take awhile. a good idea is to polish the cleaned coins 1st so as to remove any randomized hairlines.
a pocket full of silver dollars don't get enough edge-to-surface contact to effectively abrade away the cleaning issues.
K S >>
Wouldn't "randomized hairlines" be what you want? It is hairlines that all go in the same direction that will bodybag a coin. Random is what you get from circulation.
Just wondering...
Jonathan
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<< <i>What would happen if you cut out a pant pocket, placed some pocket change in it, sewed it shut... >>
Anything you put in your pants pocket would hit you in the foot.
<< <i>the rock tumbler will definitely accelerate the process. i recommend it in fact
the "pocket" method makes it more personal though.
if you do the tumbler, get some "clean dirt" ( a oxymoron if there ever was 1, basically you don't want any rocks, just organic material, preferably sifted, like manure, no i'm not kidding) & throw it in. keep decent moisture content as well. if it's too dry in the tumbler, you'll just end up w/ a bunch of scratchy coins. another good trick is to add in some machine oil.
it definitely DOES WORK, but you'll lose a little detail on all the coins.
K S
The above works well. Clean dirt means dirt that has be heated to kill what's living in the soil. To get the moisture, pee is best. Morning pee is much better then night pee. If you have a few beers the night before so much the better.
What planetary alignment is best for the morning to pee off excess beer? Would wearing a small quartz crystal work well? What is the luckiest date on the coin to make sure it will tumble well? 1888?
<< <i>I own an obviously cleaned F-12 Barber half, with a reflective unnatural shine. I kept this half in my pocket with other change for a good year.
Results:
Even wear, down to VG, with natural toning around the devices.
However, the polished look was still there! I was hoping for that unmistakable natural gray, dull appearance. >>
I think it was TomB who wrote that the cotton used in making pocket liners will end up polishing coins.
Obscurum per obscurius
<< <i>I think it was TomB who wrote that the cotton used in making pocket liners will end up polishing coins. >>
Interesting
But only if it is half full of tequila.
Try it. After that, you won't give a sh*t what your coins look like.
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<< <i>the rock tumbler will definitely accelerate the process. i recommend it in fact
the "pocket" method makes it more personal though.
if you do the tumbler, get some "clean dirt" ( a oxymoron if there ever was 1, basically you don't want any rocks, just organic material, preferably sifted, like manure, no i'm not kidding) & throw it in. keep decent moisture content as well. if it's too dry in the tumbler, you'll just end up w/ a bunch of scratchy coins. another good trick is to add in some machine oil.
it definitely DOES WORK, but you'll lose a little detail on all the coins.
K S
The above works well. Clean dirt means dirt that has be heated to kill what's living in the soil. To get the moisture, pee is best. Morning pee is much better then night pee. If you have a few beers the night before so much the better.
What planetary alignment is best for the morning to pee off excess beer? Would wearing a small quartz crystal work well? What is the luckiest date on the coin to make sure it will tumble well? 1888?
<< <i>I own an obviously cleaned F-12 Barber half, with a reflective unnatural shine. I kept this half in my pocket with other change for a good year.
Results:
Even wear, down to VG, with natural toning around the devices.
However, the polished look was still there! I was hoping for that unmistakable natural gray, dull appearance. >>
I think it was TomB who wrote that the cotton used in making pocket liners will end up polishing coins. >>
They've pretty much been like that for the past one hundred years. I wonder how coins from this area got certified??
Just think it was only a day or so ago that someone here wanted to out, expose all the DOCTORS out there.
Now lookie here they are all exposing themselfs and their secrets, with and without the vibrator.
keep talking boys
<< <i>I agree with the dork, and vibrators only work on women. >>
I tried it with Old crusty Roman coins, 1 at a time and superfine grit 1 hour at a time, it did a great job
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I think I have a Constantine AS around here somewhere that has a similar design (not exactly the same but guessing thats where you got your inspiration from).
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
If you want to wear a coin then circulate it. If you want to speed up circulation then rub it between your thumb and forefingers everday and stick it in your pocket with other coins and carry it around for 2 years. That will simulate about 20 years of normal circulation. But it takes patience. Unfortunately in today's instant gratification society, no one has patience anymore.
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<< <i>Or you could put the tumbled coin in an Idaho spud and bake it at 450 for about 30 min. That should do away with any unnatural sheen.
If you want to wear a coin then circulate it. If you want to speed up circulation then rub it between your thumb and forefingers everday and stick it in your pocket with other coins and carry it around for 2 years. That will simulate about 20 years of normal circulation. But it takes patience. Unfortunately in today's instant gratification society, no one has patience anymore. >>
That sound like too much work... I like my idea better