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Lincol collectors, do you prefer your early MS Lincolns to be RD or RB or BN?

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have smoe early MS Lincolns (1909-1933). I have got to say that I tend to like the look of the RB and BN coins more than the RD coins. There is something about the richness of the RB and BN color on an early MS Lincoln that floats my boat.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When it comes to copper (all copper), I tend to enjoy all the color variants... each seems to have character - from the brassy red... to the soft, chocolate brown... copper is unique in this aspect. Cheers, RickO
  • not a hardcore lincoln collector... but when i do buy... I tend to go for the RB's... just have a richer feel for me... and i "tend" to like the color better.




    -sm
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I like the RD pieces, but I'm afraid of paying RD money for something that would probably turn brown on me. If I can get a nice RB piece for little more than BN money, that's where I'd usually go...though I do love the look of a really nice brown copper -- think 65BN or 66BN here.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All my 1909's are Red. MS65RD and up. Theres nothing that can match an early MS67RD Lincoln..... Ill pay that money for the RD.

    All these thoughts that somehow these coins that have been RD for a century are going to turn brown while sealed up in a PCGS slab...well, though Im not from Missouri, 'show me'


    The Mattes, well, thats another story. Ive got a few RD's but theres just 'something' about a few of them that lead me to believe that long before PCGS was an idle thought, they were toned darker. But, given that they are now in the holder, I go with the RD.
    Ive seen Mattes which look just amazing though they carry the BN designation, which is more in line with the historic storage that these coins have had.

    Ive only a few circulated Lincolns, and these I prefer a natural chocolate brown. A nice strongly stuck 22D in XF is one of my favorite coins that came down to me as part of my Grandmothers pulled from circulation whitmans.

    Some, like the 55 doubledie, can be accepted in RB since it is assumed they were pulled from circulation sometime in 1955 or 1956.

    1914 D PCGS MS64RD
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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭
    I like the RB because of the value compared to prices in RD.

    Just me.

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  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    I have found that the longer I collect these the less I care about the color, so long as it looks original to my eye. What really gets my attention is a nice full strike with minimal marks and/or blemishes.

    I also like the coin to have a nice 'look' to it. Something that sets it apart from the hundreds of other coins that are seemingly always available.

    A note about RB and BN Lincolns....if you appreciate a nice full strike, look for these. Seems that the coins that were well struck were also susceptible to toning in a relatively short period of time. Unfortunately I do not have a degree in metallurgy, so I am unable to explain why this occurs, but take a look around for yourself! image


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  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    I like the RB myself, always have.....



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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    i like lincolns. the red is great, i enjoy the red brown and i like the brown. unfortunately they all end up brown in timeimage
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "unfortunately they all end up brown in time"



    Only if you dont take care of them properly. Slabs, Incept shields and if you get a RD in an OGH......that has proven itself for at least a decade.

    BTW Ive got RDs in my whitmans which I put there in the mid sixties......as nice as the day I popped them in. In fact, just got a 63D 64D and a 66 slabbed PCGS. MS65RD, 64RD and 64RD, because of little nicks that escaped my nine year old eyes....
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like attractive coins and have found that each color designation will have a tiny percentage of pieces that might be termed attractive.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't collect them any more. But I used to prefer RB. I liked BN too, depending on the coin. Never liked RD though, because I always thought they had probably been messed with.
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    As long as the strike is good....they're all good (to me)!image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    I'm not partial. All depends on the coin. image


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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RD... Except for the keys...
  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have found that the longer I collect these the less I care about the color, so long as it looks original to my eye. What really gets my attention is a nice full strike with minimal marks and/or blemishes.

    I also like the coin to have a nice 'look' to it. Something that sets it apart from the hundreds of other coins that are seemingly always available.

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    I prefer RB, BN. ^^ This is the perfect example of what I would look for.^^
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm a big fan of the RB look. Gives me a little piece of mind when I crack them out of the slab and put them in an album that I won't be risking any premium paid for a RD if something goes wrong outside of the slab. Plus I just like the look better, give the coin a little character, without sacraficing all it's good looks.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭




    Only if you dont take care of them properly. Slabs, Incept shields and if you get a RD in an OGH......that has proven itself for at least a decade.

    believe me i've seen "properly cared for reds" STILL turn brown. it takes a long time but it happens, that's what happens with copper.. image
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have three Lincolns - each is MS65RB in old rattler holders and appear to be 90% red at a fraction of the cost. That's how I prefer them. image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    w/o question, you want the coins NOT to be full so-called "red", which seems to be doctored most of the time these days.

    i recommend coins that are 50% to 75% brown, w/ a pleasing, delicate amount of original mint red lurking around the devices & edges. that to me gives by far the best appearance to most any lincoln cent.

    i don't care for totally dark brown either, btw.

    K S
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    """believe me i've seen "properly cared for reds" STILL turn brown"""


    I dont believe. Show me.

    sorry to be a skeptic. but....show me a PCGS RD in a holder that is now obviously RB or BN.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've owned some RB's which where almost fully Red, as past the grade the amount of red-ness or brown-ness is just another opinion.

    I bought a sweet 1912-S MS64 RB for my type set off a Lincoln Registry Set owner who spent 3 x RB price for a 64RD.

    His new baby looked unnatural and molested... but I guess those extra points the Slab Insert gave him mattered more then the coin?

    So I guess I'm in favor of RB's.
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  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I dont believe. Show me.

    sorry to be a skeptic. but....show me a PCGS RD in a holder that is now obviously RB or BN. >>



    This one sits in a PCGS MS-66 RD holder, and it is clearly not Red. I have seen many others that have changed as well, most notably a 1957 PCGS MS-67 RED that was most definitely RB at last years spring Baltimore show. I even referenced it in my Baltimore show report last year as I was shocked at the asking price for a coin that had clearly turnedimage

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"""believe me i've seen "properly cared for reds" STILL turn brown"""


    I dont believe. Show me.

    sorry to be a skeptic. but....show me a PCGS RD in a holder that is now obviously RB or BN.
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    so, i should hunt one down for you? sorry you don't believe me, but i know what I SAW! image
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frankly if I collected them I'd prefer that they be affordable. For now they will be what they will be and if you decide to pursue them you will have a choice to make as all forms will be available.
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  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 1,039 ✭✭
    I like both depending upon the coin and grade. I do prefer the pretty shiney coins. That said, I also enjoy the colour variants as mentioned earlier - especially one with all the pretty colours from toning.

  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer mine to be red, but I also like RB's that display an even faded red color, and glossy browns.

    I have many pre-1934 red Lincolns that I bought between 1967 and around 1985 that I've stored in Kointains. They have done a great job of keeping the colors intact. I've only slabbed a few of them, because I'm unsure if slabs provide the same level of protection over the long term.

    Jim
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