Home U.S. Coin Forum
Options

mtc3015 Raw Civil War Commemorative Sells for $121,251 on eBay

Civil War Commemorative

You can bet that Gramps has risen from the dead and is dancin' a jig this very moment . . .



«1

Comments

  • Options
    smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭
  • Options
    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭
    this cannot be for real


    greg

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • Options
    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭
    sorry double post



    i guess the commem market is back image

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • Options
    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,078 ✭✭✭
    Ummmmmmm.... Interesting....

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • Options
    It looks nice from the photos, but not $121K nice.
    Greg Cohen

    Senior Numismatist

    Legend Rare Coin Auctions
  • Options
    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could be two bidders both placed "nuclear" snipes.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • Options
    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy $#!+ as the buyer has 100% feedback of 2067... a bid of $6788.00 and then it's went crazy between the two. Since we know MTC does some magical photography even is this Antietam would MS68 in white it's a $10K coin. This may be a record for a raw coin on ebay too?



    dave.tracy( 2067) US $121,251.00 Mar-24-08 14:40:35 PDT



    m***n( 31) US $121,151.00 Mar-24-08 14:36:32 PDT



    dave.tracy( 2067) US $6,788.00 Mar-24-08 14:40:18 PDT



    m***n( 31) US $1,200.00 Mar-24-08 14:36:15 PDT



    m***n( 31) US $1,151.01 Mar-24-08 13:46:07 PDT



    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Options
    if he get's paid... I am cashing out my commmems! and i will be giving mr. dave.tracy a call! image






    -sm
  • Options
    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks nice from the photos, but not $121K nice. >>



    Yeah, but it MIGHT slab out that high!!!!!!!!!!
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Options
    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That baby was on my eBay watch list...I am &%^%%&^*&%^%##&%&$$!!!!!!!!!!


    Wonder whar Russ will say!!!!!!!!image
  • Options
    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    CHOICES

    1. Mistake
    2. Joke
    3 Scam
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Options
    I have a feeling there will be some post-auction conversations between MTC and the buyer. image
  • Options


    << <i>CHOICES

    1. Mistake
    2. Joke
    3 Scam >>






    geeze bear... thanks for bringing me down image





    -sm
  • Options
    WoW!!! Maybe its made of asteroid metal mixed with gold,platinum and diamond dust all mixed together with a power to multiply itself to infinity? image
  • Options
    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,862 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>CHOICES

    1. Mistake
    2. Joke
    3 Scam >>




    You left out 4. Sucker
  • Options
    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if he get's paid... I am cashing out my commmems! and i will be giving mr. dave.tracy a call!

    Spacemonkey, if this is real I know a few top registry commem set owners who will be there before you! image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Options
    More gems from "grandfather's" inexhaustible supply of FDC's.
  • Options
    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    If its for real, I am ready to auction my Lincoln and Grant

    together, for 100,000 dollars.image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Options
    some idiot paid almost $6k for one of his 1939 Oregon PDS Sets
  • Options
    fcfc Posts: 12,789 ✭✭✭
    does not compute.
  • Options
    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1937 50C Antietam NGC MS69* from the Cary Porter sale hammered with juice $25,300.00 at Heritage last year.

    So unless Dave Tracy thinks this will MS70... WTF? image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Options
    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This guy MTC is so good at slingin' eBay Shiny Rawbies, I'm starting to feel inadequate for not being a BUYER here??? image

    OK, someone on this forum will come forward and tell us the truth!!!!

    Who has MTC Rawbies???

    I want in!!!!! image

  • Options
    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>CHOICES

    1. Mistake
    2. Joke
    3 Scam >>



    image
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • Options
    Prices realized on all his auctions are annoying as heck as they are almost, without exception, way over average prices realized.

    image
  • Options
    DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    hey dave.tracy (buyer), get the lube handy pal, you're gonna' need it!

  • Options
    DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>The 1937 50C Antietam NGC MS69* from the Cary Porter sale hammered with juice $25,300.00 at Heritage last year.

    So unless Dave Tracy thinks this will MS70... WTF? image >>



    and that MS69 was one niiicccee coin.

  • Options
    jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭
    gets pretty expensive when you forget to put the decimal point in your bidimage
    If you can't swim you better stay in the boat.......
  • Options
    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gets pretty expensive when you forget to put the decimal point in your bid

    image

    Dave Tracy now has to tell Mrs. Tracy they have to take out an equity loan on the house do to a decimal point? image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Options
    TomBTomB Posts: 20,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why would folks be so foolish as to even bid aggressively on this seller's auctions?
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

    image
  • Options
    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    Till you spoke up Tom,
    I was getting ready to bid
    on what looked like really
    nice commems.image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Options
    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why would folks be so foolish as to even bid aggressively on this seller's auctions?

    imageimage
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • Options
    DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>Why would folks be so foolish as to even bid aggressively on this seller's auctions?

    imageimage >>




    yup, that sums it up!
  • Options
    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    If folks were not warned by this Forum,
    the coins really looked nice.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Options
    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Guess I'll have to wait to get a grandchild to sell my collection.

    That (still nice) coin better come with a Hummer, and I don't mean a motor vehicle either.
    Select Rarities -- DMPLs and VAMs
    NSDR - Life Member
    SSDC - Life Member
    ANA - Pay As I Go Member
  • Options
    This coin bums me right out!

    Absolutely gorgeous coin with a BIG DING on the 'A' in "DOLLAR"

    Once you notice that it tends to take away from it for me.

    So close to perfect then DING!



    Jerry
  • Options
    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,472 ✭✭✭✭
    That deal will never close.

    No way.


    No how!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Options
    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is mtc3015 like the most successful raw coin dealer ever?
  • Options


    << <i>More gems from "grandfather's" inexhaustible supply of FDC's. >>



    image
  • Options


    That typewriter picture is hilarious! Now what somebody needs to do is take that picture and list a 1920 Pilgrim (or some other coin and mock picture) in a featured auction right along side of an identical coin mct3015 is featuring--do a parody auction. That would educate potential bidders very quickly and provide an invaluable service to eBay buyers!

  • Options


    << <i>That typewriter picture is hilarious! Now what somebody needs to do is take that picture and list a 1920 Pilgrim (or some other coin and mock picture) in a featured auction right along side of an identical coin mct3015 is featuring--do a parody auction. That would educate potential bidders very quickly and provide an invaluable service to eBay buyers! >>



    An old Royal typewriter from the 40's with half dried out ribbon might be closer to what mtc uses, not this Selectric, but it still gets the point across. The typewritten observations attributed to "grandfather" are merely a convenient way for mtc to make insinuations/claims about the coins, without the appearance of any of it coming directly out of his mouth.
  • Options


    << <i>The typewritten observations attributed to "grandfather" are merely a convenient way for mtc to make insinuations/claims about the coins, without the appearance of any of it coming directly out of his mouth. >>



    I have to say it is a "great" con, and right now it is making him a heck of a lot of money. There's a bit of genius behind it that I admire in a kind of disgusted way!
  • Options


    << <i>I have to say it is a "great" con, and right now it is making him a heck of a lot of money. There's a bit of genius behind it that I admire in a kind of disgusted way! >>



    I agree. It's all very well staged. The aged/distressed manila coin envelopes & old packaging, "grandfather's" typewritten "inventory" & the whole FDC "fleur de coin" thing (which he never bothers to explain, because he would rather have us believe it's some term that "grandfather" used that he's unfamiliar with). Also, let's not forget the various inferences that many of the coins may be proof's or presentation pieces.

    image
  • Options
    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the BS and still 100% positive feedback...

    Wait a minute.... He has 3 Negs since Feb and still shows 100%????
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
    Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
  • Options
    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797

    I wonder how many "2nd Chance Offers " went out ?
  • Options


    << <i>All the BS and still 100% positive feedback...

    Wait a minute.... He has 3 Negs since Feb and still shows 100%???? >>



    He's managed to have all of them mutually withdrawn There are quite a few "negative positives", as well as buyers who added negative follow-ups to what had been positive feedbacks. Some of the feedback comments are just too strange.

    As far as the bidder who won this coin for $121,251... I just noticed the most he's on record as spending is $14.99 for a video game, no previous coin purchases.
  • Options
    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    and "as is, no returns".


    image
  • Options
    INXSINXS Posts: 1,202
    The buyers last six buys were DVD's, Xbox games and a book. This doesnt look right at all.
    "Well here's another nice mess you have gotten me into" Oliver Hardy 1930
    image

    BST successful dealings with:MsMorrisine, goldman86
  • Options
    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<I agree. It's all very well staged. The aged/distressed manila coin envelopes & old packaging, "grandfather's" typewritten "inventory" & the whole FDC "fleur de coin" thing (which he never bothers to explain, because he would rather have us believe it's some term that "grandfather" used that he's unfamiliar with). Also, let's not forget the various inferences that many of the coins may be proof's or presentation pieces.>>

    I agree, the whole thing is a genius idea. I doubt that commem actually sold for $121k, shill, advertising, something.

    Tried contacting the winner, ebay wouldn't let me.

    I need to pick up a typewritter, some used ribbon, for the aged effect, and some envelopesimage
    World coins FSHO Hundreds of successful BST transactions U.S. coins FSHO
  • Options
    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    There appears to be very little to differentiate this ebay seller from coin auction companies. The seller lets potential buyers assume whatever they want and plays to their personal greed by suggesting the coin might be something special. This differs little from the auction company that says a coin is a “possible presentation piece,” or a “branch mint proof,” or that it comes with an envelope supposedly typed by Abe Lincoln, or that a coin is “virtually uncirculated.” Grouping coins for auction under fictitious names and mixing lots so buyers can’t tell which coins are from a famous collection and which are from some dealer’s anonymous inventory, is a long standing practice.

    The old coin game is to “sell the coin by selling the story.”
  • Options
    I think he is starting to slip. You ever see a coin wrapper so wrinkled. How about no toning and being in the paper all these years. Another nice job.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file