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EarendilEarendil Posts: 243 ✭✭
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With all of the ones that have popped up over the 74 years since they were minted, what is the running total now for all those that escaped the Mint (including the ones destroyed by the Secret Service in times past)?

These are the ones I know:
- King Farouk example: 1
- Most recent examples: 10
- Smithsonian examples: ?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are two in the SI. Total known is 13.

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  • EarendilEarendil Posts: 243 ✭✭
    Didn't the Secret Service destroy several in the 1950's? I remember reading that somewhere.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,705 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Didn't the Secret Service destroy several in the 1950's? I remember reading that somewhere. >>



    Yes and the Treasury destroyed thousands more in the 1930's.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>These are the ones I know:
    - King Farouk example: 1
    - Most recent examples: 10
    - Smithsonian examples: ? >>


    Actually, I suspect the coin identified as the King Farouk specimen is in fact not the actual King Farouk specimen and is thus still hiding out there. This is the sort of thing that happens when lawyers get involved in coin collecting.



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  • EarendilEarendil Posts: 243 ✭✭
    Sorry about that, I guess a better question would be: how many escaped into private hands, even if only for a short while?
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>These are the ones I know:
    - King Farouk example: 1
    - Most recent examples: 10
    - Smithsonian examples: ? >>


    Actually, I suspect the coin identified as the King Farouk specimen is in fact not the actual King Farouk specimen and is thus still hiding out there. This is the sort of thing that happens when layers get involved in coin collecting. >>



    Onions have layers. image

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  • coinut1799coinut1799 Posts: 318
    Read "Illegal Tender" by David Tripp. It is a wonderful book about the minting and removal of 1933 double eagles from the U.S. Mint.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Onions have layers. image

    JJ >>


    image Good catch.

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I know is I'm keeping mine a secret




    D'oh!
  • BobGreeneBobGreene Posts: 952 ✭
    Other than the 13 known existing examples, it is theorized that their may possibly be nine others unaccounted for.


    Bob
  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 987
    Keep in mind that Doug Winter wouldnt want one of these unless it was in mint state condition.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the parties involved made a statement at one point saying that 25 pieces had left the Mint, not counting the two at the Smithsonian. Nine of these were later destroyed by the government.

    It is also possible that Treasury Secretary William Woodin had an additional group of five or ten, that were probably turned back in and destroyed.

    TD
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Keep in mind that Doug Winter wouldnt want one of these unless it was in mint state condition. >>

    One should NEVER collect ugly coins. image


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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    I think there's ONE unaccounted for. image
    image
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I can absolutely guarantee you that there are more than 13 in existence.
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    Maybe some will get melted at $900 gold...
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I can absolutely guarantee you that there are more than 13 in existence. >>



    image Does it reside in the Julian Collection?
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,641 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I can absolutely guarantee you that there are more than 13 in existence. >>



    image Does it reside in the Julian Collection? >>



    Oh sure. If I had the 14th, I'd announce it here first. Wouldn't you image
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I can absolutely guarantee you that there are more than 13 in existence. >>

    I've got 'em right here with my 1964-D Peace Dollars. image
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    There is no Julian collection of DE's.

    That is not to say that none have ever passed thru............
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