Submit your world coins to PCGS

CoinKing

I invite all of you who have stayed away from PCGS because of our historically slow turnaround times on world coins to please consider submitting your coins now. We've reduced the turnaround times dramatically and we welcome your business.

Thanks and best wishes.

MyWorldCoinTypeSet

Ron

I've always been hesitant to submit because of international shipping / customs, and not because of slow turnaround times. Do you have instructions on the best ways to ship / handle customs from Canada?

Thanks,
Paul

1960NYGiants

Just had my latest order completed in 22 calender days. Thank you.

Today I sent in two more, including the Remick 1880 Newfie $2 for pedigree.

coinpictures

Faster turnaround times are great, and a welcome improvement, however my concern is the increased expense over NGC.

I would consider sending coins into PCGS, but it's just too expensive, in my opinion, compared to NGC. Unless there is some discount that I am unaware of, World Economy is $18 versus $14.85 at NGC for coins valued at $300 or less. The big problem comes when a coin is valued at more than $300. NGC jumps from $14.85 to $30, but PCGS also more than doubles, jumping to $40 for certification.

This is also a $10 premium over the same tier for U.S. coins.

It doesn't take long for the extra $10 per coin to really add up. For every 3 coins I send to PCGS I could be getting 4 slabbed at NGC.

I don't mean to sound unappreciative of the efforts being made, but a 33% higher cost is a big deal, in my opinion.

bidask

<< <i>I invite all of you who have stayed away from PCGS because of our historically slow turnaround times on world coins to please consider submitting your coins now. We've reduced the turnaround times dramatically and we welcome your business.

Thanks and best wishes. >>

Ron I recently reupped for the collectors club ( $200) and received by submission forms. I would love to use them for world coins. Can I?

Thanks, Dan

Aethelred

Hi Ron,

I am glad to see PCGS address this issue. I was burned on a world coin submission about a year ago. PCGS had my coins for six months, which is nothing short of absurd in my opinion. In that submission there was an English hammered coin that I was told by one customer service person was broken while at PCGS, another customer service person told me the coin was lost. In either event PCGS did pay what I had insured the coin for, so no complaints on that.

No one has ever explained why PCGS had my coins for six months and no one so much as told me "we're sorry." As someone who often submits coins that I buy intending to resell them I often can't afford to risk the chance that PCGS is going to tie them up for such a long period and then act as if six months and a broken coin were business as usual.

I believe PCGS is by far the best of the grading services in terms of resale value both for US and world coins. I still use you for US coins (which I submit via the coin shop I work at), but to get my world business back you are going to have to earn it.

a039

I appreciate one of the principals of PCGS is into world coins and values our business!

Still waiting for the Mexican registry that will set the market on fire...

Tootawl

CoinKing, You already have a stack of Britannias. Hopefully they will be graded alot faster than my last batch. (fingers are crossed for good luck!)

ajaan

First let me say I'm glad someone at PCGS is showing some interest in World Coins. I am also glad to see you admit the turnaround times have been way too slow. As to whether I submit more World coins to PCGS depends on a couple factors. I state these in hopes that things will improve and as constructive criticism.

1. I have a submission currently at PCGS, it was entered on 2/22/07. I want to wait and see how long this submission takes to be graded.

2. I want to see if the World Coin turnaround times STAY low. It does it me good if the turnaround times fluctuate from 22 to 50 days or more. A consistant turnaround time is really desired.

3. One of the best features PCGS has to offer in my opinion is TrueView. Is TrueView still available? If so, is it going to stay available for the long term? I have called customer service and have been told contradictory things on this matter. What is the big secret? Is TrueView an option or not? PLEASE give us an answer.

4. aethelred mentioned his submission that took 6 months. I had him submit coins for me in that submission. To say the least, I was really annoyed with the service.

5. Customer Service. It really needs to be improved. I'm talking about the people in your customer service department who answer calls. The last time I talked to them it sounded like the guy was asleep on the phone. He was practically useless in answering my question. In fact, he gave me two counterdictory statements in the same phone call. In the past year I have submitted World coins to NGC, ICG, and PCGS. I have talked to customer service in all three companies. PCGS was by far the worst by a large margin.

6. As stated by coinpictures, pricing is a factor. Mainly for higher priced coins, >$300.

7. Finally, it would be great if PCGS developed a multi-coin holder for British Maundy Sets.

Thanks,
Don

laurentyvan

I must say I am impressed and pleased to see that Ron is willing to take communication with forum members (and therefor the world at large) to a more personal level.

It's good manners, good business and augers well for PCGS.

In support of Ajaan- you'd attract a lot of business with Maundy multi-coin holders- they're a staple item for many world coin collectors.

LeeG

Hi Ron,
Thanks for taking the time. I'd submit this coin as a crossover if I wouldn't lose the Cameo designation. Any new discussions on allowing the CAM/DCAM designation on coins that aren't RD?

TwoKopeiki

I will eventually want to slab my 8 Reales collection, which includes some pieces that only an expert in the series would be able to authenticate. Who does PCGS use as a subject matter expert for Spanish Colonials / Mexican War of Independence pieces?

CoinKing

<< <i>Hi Ron,
Thanks for taking the time. I'd submit this coin as a crossover if I wouldn't lose the Cameo designation. Any new discussions on allowing the CAM/DCAM designation on coins that aren't RD?


>>



On Proof coins, we'll add the CAM and DCAM designations when applicable.

CoinKing

<< <i>

<< <i>I invite all of you who have stayed away from PCGS because of our historically slow turnaround times on world coins to please consider submitting your coins now. We've reduced the turnaround times dramatically and we welcome your business.

Thanks and best wishes. >>

Ron I recently reupped for the collectors club ( $200) and received by submission forms. I would love to use them for world coins. Can I?

Thanks, Dan >>



YES, please do.

CoinKing

<< <i>I appreciate one of the principals of PCGS is into world coins and values our business!

Still waiting for the Mexican registry that will set the market on fire... >>



We're working on it. What sections would you like to see first?

CoinKing

<< <i>I will eventually want to slab my 8 Reales collection, which includes some pieces that only an expert in the series would be able to authenticate. Who does PCGS use as a subject matter expert for Spanish Colonials / Mexican War of Independence pieces? >>




I'd knock on the door of an expert who's just a little south of us, if you catch my drift.

CoinKing

<< <i>First let me say I'm glad someone at PCGS is showing some interest in World Coins. I am also glad to see you admit the turnaround times have been way too slow. As to whether I submit more World coins to PCGS depends on a couple factors. I state these in hopes that things will improve and as constructive criticism.

1. I have a submission currently at PCGS, it was entered on 2/22/07. I want to wait and see how long this submission takes to be graded.

2. I want to see if the World Coin turnaround times STAY low. It does it me good if the turnaround times fluctuate from 22 to 50 days or more. A consistant turnaround time is really desired.

3. One of the best features PCGS has to offer in my opinion is TrueView. Is TrueView still available? If so, is it going to stay available for the long term? I have called customer service and have been told contradictory things on this matter. What is the big secret? Is TrueView an option or not? PLEASE give us an answer.

4. aethelred mentioned his submission that took 6 months. I had him submit coins for me in that submission. To say the least, I was really annoyed with the service.

5. Customer Service. It really needs to be improved. I'm talking about the people in your customer service department who answer calls. The last time I talked to them it sounded like the guy was asleep on the phone. He was practically useless in answering my question. In fact, he gave me two counterdictory statements in the same phone call. In the past year I have submitted World coins to NGC, ICG, and PCGS. I have talked to customer service in all three companies. PCGS was by far the worst by a large margin.

6. As stated by coinpictures, pricing is a factor. Mainly for higher priced coins, >$300.

7. Finally, it would be great if PCGS developed a multi-coin holder for British Maundy Sets.

Thanks,
Don >>




Hi Don,

Good points, all. And, I appreciate the constructive way that you offered them. Believe me, I'm listening.

a039

<< <i>

<< <i>I appreciate one of the principals of PCGS is into world coins and values our business!

Still waiting for the Mexican registry that will set the market on fire... >>



We're working on it. What sections would you like to see first? >>



Mexican Decimal: 1910-1979-- One to 100 Peso's for starters.

Thanks for taking the time to interact with us!

BS

What's the earliest date english coins you will grade? Thanks

ajaan

Ron,
I must give credit where credit is due. My last PCGS submission:

Received: 2/22/07
Shipped: 3/23/07

Good job. As soon as my images are uploaded I'll be in happy land.

coinkat

Ron:

I enjoyed saying hello and our brief chat about the Registry. While I understand there are some ambitious plans which take significant time, and as time permits, I hope that the Low Tide variety for both the Edward VII 1d and 1/2d will be added to the Registry sets. Both varieties are in Spink and highly sought after among the British copper enthusiasts.

Thanks for your efforts and moving world coins forward at PCGS.




<< <i>What's the earliest date english coins you will grade? Thanks >>



I am not completely sure... I know they grade all English Milled except the 1797 2d that will not fit into a holder. However, I have seen earlier dates, including Crowns from the Commonwealth era and I am refering to the hammered issues before the milled Cromwell portrait designs. I have submitted some early milled coins with excellent results... prompt service and appropriate grades.

The timeliness has improved. My last submission was under 25 days.

bidask

I am going to submit a bunch, in person, at the central states show.

MrEureka

Ron - For coins valued between $301 and $3000, PCGS charges dealers $40 vs NGC's $25. My impression is that the market for PCGS world coins has not yet reached the point where the brand justifies that added expense.

500Bay

Ron,

Are there plans for PCGS to begin grading ancient (Roman) coins?

weresteve

I invite all of you who have stayed away from PCGS because of our historically slow turnaround times on world coins to please consider submitting your coins now. We've reduced the turnaround times dramatically and we welcome your business.

Thanks for the invite; however, any coins not going into registry sets are still going across the street and around the corner because of the inconsistencies in grading and slow turnaround times I have experienced in the past. Even for those coins I plan on putting into registry sets, it seems like it has been a painfully slow process getting new sets into place and correcting errors in sets that have already been put up. PCGS has a long way to go before it will get my vote of confidence on world coins.

lordmarcovan

O Mighty CoinKing, if you're still monitoring this thread:

Since you asked... I wanted to submit a world coin to PCGS, but I wasn't allowed to put it on the same submission form as my three other Collectors Club submissions, which is a bummer.

I submitted several coins at the recent Charlotte show, and PCGS only got four of them, while ANACS got the rest, thanks to much more personalized service and the fact that NGC had left by that Sunday morning.

Mind you, I was using a really moldy old submission form for four unused Collectors Club submissions that I'd had since the 2004 FUN show, which I mentioned on this Q&A thread.

And they did let me use those submissions with a printout of that message post from you, BUT in order to submit, I had to re-up my Collectors Club membership at the Silver level, so there went, what was it, fifty-sixty bucks? And after return shipping and added fees because I wanted TrueView (which wasn't mentioned on any of the new forms, either), I had to fork out over around eighty-some bucks just to use those four "freebies" I'd paid for three years ago! (Because when I pay for Collectors Club membership, I am paying for the grading fees, make no mistake- I have little use for pop reports and the other perks, personally.)

There was a really nice British coin I wanted to TrueView, too, but after paying to use my "freebies", I was in no mood to fork out more money to add it on another submission form, since I could not mix US and World coins on my one form, and the one coin I really had to slab was a 1914-D USA cent.

Had I not really wanted TrueView service and a PCGS slab for my '14-D cent, I probably would've forgotten the whole thing and just given up on using those four freebies (which I admittedly waited far too long to use, and which probably should've expired with my 2004 membership, I realize). I usually wait for shows to do my submissions so I don't have to pay shipping two ways, and Charlotte was my first show since FUN 2004, where I had gotten that Collectors Club submission form to begin with.

I have a hard time rationalizing having to pay to join some club, just for mere submission privileges, and THEN have to fork out at least $18 a coin or whatever it is for World "Economy" service. If you have folks lining up and paying money just for the privilege of paying you more money, then good for you- it's a great business model and I'm sure your shareholders love it. But it turned me off a bit, I must confess.

ANACS didn't make me join any clubs and pay just for the privilege of giving them more of my money, and they let me mix US and world coins on the same form. Granted, ANACS doesn't have your reputation or market share, but for the money, with the sort of lower- to medium-priced material I wanted to submit, they were a better deal. If I'd had really scarce pieces or gold or whatever, I probably would've bitten the bullet and paid the extra money to have y'all grade my coins. Certainly I would rather have them in PCGS plastic than ANACS plastic, though there's nothing much wrong with the latter, as I see it.

But until the pricing is more attractive and there are less hoops to jump through, I'm afraid I will just buy my PCGS coins already slabbed instead of submitting any myself. It was just too much of a headache. Chances are, I will never be the sort of bulk submitter you'd want, anyway, but you would get a little more business from me if you made it easier and more affordable.

Thank you for helping me use those old leftover submissions, though, and a huge thankyou to PCGS for these forums, which are much appreciated. Actually, had I been thinking of these forums when I was forced to unwillingly renew my Collectors Club membership , I might not have balked so much. These forums are the one thing that puts PCGS on my "good guys" list.

SYRACUSIAN

<< <i>Ron - For coins valued between $301 and $3000, PCGS charges dealers $40 vs NGC's $25. My impression is that the market for PCGS world coins has not yet reached the point where the brand justifies that added expense. >>




That's a very astute observation and a wise choice of words, especially, the yet part. I personally believe that those of us who invest the extra effort and fees to submit to PCGS will be rewarded at some point, but I must say that I've seen quite a few rather unfair grades and BBs lately (not necessarilly mine) ,and I'm not sure if this is really necessary to achieve the status that Andy's talking about.

Anyway, more and more people I know, submit the coins that they intend to resell to NGC for a variety of reasons, but they stay loyal to PCGS for their own collection's coins.

The TrueView service has been the best innovation that PCGS introduced in the past 3 years IMO, its status needs to be cleared as soon as possible.

Finally, lordmarcovan has a point too. I think that LordM could have bought the gold membership instead, and use the 4 freebies for world coins, it's not clear from the site that this is feasable and I too fell for that last year, but I believe that the freebies can be used for world coins too, right? I would appreciate a reply, as I'm due to renew my membership at the end of this month.

Best regards

Dimitri

LTrain

why should we grade world coins if no new sets are created for them in Set Registry? It seams like it takes forever for them to add US Sets will they ever add world coin sets or more countries on Set Registry.

BS

<< <i>Ron:

I enjoyed saying hello and our brief chat about the Registry. While I understand there are some ambitious plans which take significant time, and as time permits, I hope that the Low Tide variety for both the Edward VII 1d and 1/2d will be added to the Registry sets. Both varieties are in Spink and highly sought after among the British copper enthusiasts.

Thanks for your efforts and moving world coins forward at PCGS.




<< <i>What's the earliest date english coins you will grade? Thanks >>



I am not completely sure... I know they grade all English Milled except the 1797 2d that will not fit into a holder. However, I have seen earlier dates, including Crowns from the Commonwealth era and I am refering to the hammered issues before the milled Cromwell portrait designs. I have submitted some early milled coins with excellent results... prompt service and appropriate grades.

The timeliness has improved. My last submission was under 25 days. >>

Thanks Coinkat. I want to get the Cromwell shilling graded. I'm going to send them off as soon as that William III shilling arrives.