Why the "inspection" stamp on this Canadian bank token? Now, GRRRRR, problems encountered!

laurentyvan

Can anyone tell me why this 1842 one penny Bank of Montreal token has been stamped "inspected"?


Would the bank deface the token to guarantee its authenticity?

Is it considered defacement or some kind of counterstamp authenticator?

Any help is appreciated as I have to answer a potential buyers question.

ed for spl

coinpictures

I wonder if it was some sort of specimen/test strike?

satootoko

I thought Google had turned up some information about "inspected coin montreal", until I clicked on the link and found your auction. It was the third of 183,000 results.

covers

... or, maybe just somebody who found an "inspected" punch in a machine shop and decided to add a little spice to an otherwise ordinary coin ...

SYRACUSIAN

<< <i>I thought Google had turned up some information about "inspected coin montreal", until I clicked on the link and found your auction. It was the third of 183,000 results. >>





You don't want to know how many times I've googled words, only to find my own posts here, very high in the first page of the results.



edited to add, try india ink to see what I mean, I guess the same happens with various questions of ours.

laurentyvan

or, maybe just somebody who found an "inspected" punch in a machine shop and decided to add a little spice to an otherwise ordinary coin ...

Uh, I was looking for something a little more romantic or interesting than that.

ed to add about Google: I know, sometimes Google searches drive me crazy. An overabundance or a dearth of information.

TwoKopeiki

In Canada, in the late 1842, counterfeiting became a very serious problem (especially with copper tokens), which prompted banks to inspect every single one they got their hands on. Because of this initiative numerous forgeries were located, which led to the capture of Captain Silvers of the infamous ship "Sloop", who was the leader of the largest counterfeiting ring....


How's that?

SYRACUSIAN

In Canada, in the late 1842, counterfeiting became a very serious problem (especially with copper tokens), which prompted banks to inspect every single one they got their hands on. Because of this initiative numerous forgeries were located, which led to the capture of Captain Silvers of the infamous ship "Sloop", who was the leader of the largest counterfeiting ring....



How's that?



Not bad, but if John Silvers was already captain in 1798, when he found that medal, the Canadians must have captured him right before his 90th anniversary. Was he pardonned due to old age?

laurentyvan

I was asked by a prospective bidder why this coin was stamped "inspected".

I replied to the e-mail that "I wasn't entirely sure but I would find out".

I posted the question on the PCGS world and ancient coin forum (my answer to sanity) and received good replies.

When I attempted to relay the salient information to the prospective bidder through eBay "messages", I received a "question already answered" reply with a bold and colored exclamation mark within a triangle. Couldn't go further.

I could not contact the individual a second time through e-Bay. Paranoia has stricken eBay communications I guess.

I understand the problems eBay is going through vis a vis dealing off-site, 2nd chance offers, etc., but c'mon Mozer Phouque (phouque is approximately French for "seal", I'm trying to make a rude point, please excuse me), I am zo peezed ofh zat I can knot talhk strait.

I will post the response to eBay re-description, unfortunately way under the actual auction page, and certainly hope that the original OP sees it.

Intelligent (and hopefully) correct response:

In Canada, in the late 1842, counterfeiting became a very serious problem (especially with copper tokens), which prompted banks to inspect every single one they got their hands on. Because of this initiative numerous forgeries were located, which led to the capture of Captain Silvers of the infamous ship "Sloop", who was the leader of the largest counterfeiting ring....

ed for spl

satootoko

<< <i>In Canada, in the late 1842, counterfeiting became a very serious problem (especially with copper tokens), which prompted banks to inspect every single one they got their hands on. Because of this initiative numerous forgeries were located, which led to the capture of Captain Silvers of the infamous ship "Sloop", who was the leader of the largest counterfeiting ring....


How's that? >>

laurentyvan

By the way, thanks to TwoKopeiki for:

great answer!

Blackhawk

<< <i>Not bad, but if John Silvers was already captain in 1798, when he found that medal, the Canadians must have captured him right before his 90th anniversary. Was he pardonned due to old age? >>



Maybe he meant "Captain Sliver" who earned his moniker while sliding down the bannister of life.

CptSilvers

Yarrr, mateys! This babblin' be not correct. I was nowhere near Canada that year. It was a year o' much boozin' and cruizin' 'round t' Bermuda with many wrenches on me arms!

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>I was asked by a prospective bidder why this coin was stamped "inspected".

I replied to the e-mail that "I wasn't entirely sure but I would find out".

I posted the question on the PCGS world and ancient coin forum (my answer to sanity) and received good replies.

When I attempted to relay the salient information to the prospective bidder through eBay "messages", I received a "question already answered" reply with a bold and colored exclamation mark within a triangle. Couldn't go further.

I could not contact the individual a second time through e-Bay. Paranoia has stricken eBay communications I guess.

I understand the problems eBay is going through vis a vis dealing off-site, 2nd chance offers, etc., but c'mon Mozer Phouque (phouque is approximately French for "seal", I'm trying to make a rude point, please excuse me), I am zo peezed ofh zat I can knot talhk strait.

I will post the response to eBay re-description, unfortunately way under the actual auction page, and certainly hope that the original OP sees it.

Intelligent (and hopefully) correct response:

In Canada, in the late 1842, counterfeiting became a very serious problem (especially with copper tokens), which prompted banks to inspect every single one they got their hands on. Because of this initiative numerous forgeries were located, which led to the capture of Captain Silvers of the infamous ship "Sloop", who was the leader of the largest counterfeiting ring....

ed for spl >>



Mr. Laurent - It is a good story, but I wouldn't trust the source...

Blackhawk

Maybe it's that house on the coin that was inspected.

coinkat

I think it is cool...

ajaan

<< <i>Mr. Laurent - It is a good story, but I wouldn't trust the source... >>