A giveaway! Winner in the last post!!!
TwoKopeiki
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Prize: Not the most fantastic coin - but it's FREE!
PLUS
A nicely toned Cook Island 10 Dollars (Coronation Jubilee)
Now, to win - all you have to do is reply to this post and I will add your name to the sorting hat. I'll add your name twice if you correctly guess what makes the following Peru 8 Reales a scarce variety, instead of a common one:
The contest ends Wednesday afternoon - I will mail the winnings Thursday morning.
~Roman
PLUS
A nicely toned Cook Island 10 Dollars (Coronation Jubilee)
Now, to win - all you have to do is reply to this post and I will add your name to the sorting hat. I'll add your name twice if you correctly guess what makes the following Peru 8 Reales a scarce variety, instead of a common one:
The contest ends Wednesday afternoon - I will mail the winnings Thursday morning.
~Roman
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DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
scarce the a in gratia is formed to contour of the clothing
or the bust is closer to the letters
Jim
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
<< <i>Something to do with the 0 in the date? >>
That's the only thing that jumps out at me too... but I know nothing about these. It looks nicer than the plate coin in my old Krause though!
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DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
<< <i>Someone tried to decapitate Ferdie VII? >>
Those are just scratches
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DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
CU #3245 B.N.A. #428
Don
My wantlist & references
Thanks for the chance.
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By the way, the imaginary bust is not what makes this a scarce coin
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jeff
or should I say I ACCUMULATE!
I also dabble with the darkside
Ive recently gotten more into currency, especially modern star notes
Can you tell me more about the first coin? I'm not a major world coin person and that looks intriguing. What is it?
thanks again
My guess... no clue, but I'll say the additional dot markings next to the date? (not on the reales I've seen before)
thanks again
Thanks for the chance!
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Now, to win - all you have to do is reply to this post and I will add your name to the sorting hat. I'll add your name twice if you correctly guess what makes the following Peru 8 Reales a scarce variety, instead of a common one:
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Your coin should be a KM #106.1 instead of a KM #106.2. The latter has a smaller imaginary bust
and Krause doesn't list any of the KM #106.1's with a mint date of 1810.
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At a guess I'll say it's condition.
Zar's Ebay
<< <i>Thank you for the opportunity.
Can you tell me more about the first coin? I'm not a major world coin person and that looks intriguing. What is it?
thanks again
Sure thing!
Here's a snippet from "History of the Mexican Coin"
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Coins issued by the insurgents
During the War of Independence, the miners were in the hands of the royalist authorities, due to which the insurgent faction suffered currency scarcity and depended on forced loans and currency captured from adversaries. For that reason, the insurgents minted their own currency to pay their troops. The insurgent mintings were done with rudimentary methods, and because the insurgents had no silver supply, they minted just a few coins with this metal and most with copper.
In October 1810, Miguel Hidalgo commissioned José María Morelos to organize an army in the south of the country. Morelos became the leader of the insurgent movement after the capture of Hidalgo in March 1811. With Morelos, the insurrection was transformed; he managed to unite the ideas of intermediary groups with the demands of the people, and he proclaimed for the first time non-subjection to the Bourbon monarchy.
Morelos coins
The copper coins ordered by Morelos were equivalent to promises of payment. In other words, they could be exchanged for their face value in gold and silver coins upon the triumph of the revolution. Thus, for the first time fiduciary currency was used in Mexico. The obverse of these roughly manufactured coins bore a Morelos monogram along with the denomination and mint year. On the back, a bow and arrow appears, and underneath them, the word “SUD” (“SOUTH”). There were two main variants: A plain one, and another with profuse floral adornment. They were produced in eight, two, one, and half-real coins.
After the siege of Cuautla, Morelos spent several months in Tehuacán. When he left the city, he put the insurgent Manuel Mier y Terán in charge. It is believed that, in the assumption of minting responsibilities, Mier y Terán manufactured a coin type with the initials “T. C.” between the bow and the word “SUD.” These coins had a finer finish, whether due to more adequate machinery or more experienced workers. Several researchers believe the letters “T.C.” mean that the minting took place in Tierra Caliente. Others agree that the abbreviation means Tlacotepec, and still others, Torres de Cuautla. The most common coins of this type were eight-real coins; the rarest are those of two reales and those of half a real.
On November 25, 1812, Morelos attacked and conquered Oaxaca. He found a large quantity of silver bars there, allowing him to resume his mintings, both the “SUD” coins and a variety similar to the provisional Oaxaca coins. The mintings done in Oaxaca were Morelos' most important. Not only was the quantity large, but also the types, varieties and values were numerous. The coins were manufactured in silver and copper, both smelted and minted.
Although the Morelos coin type is quite uniform, there are several varieties due to the fact that the mintings took place in different locations (Tecpan, Huautla, Oaxaca, Acapulco, Tlacotepec, Chilpancingo, Cerro de Atijo, and Tehuacán). Despite research on this subject, we can only conjecture on the mint types, and there is no complete registry of the varieties. The key features of the Morelos coin design are the monogram on the front and the bow and arrow on the back. The monogram bears the letters “M O S,” Morelos’ initials. This feature seems to have undergone a transition from the plain letter “M,” to “JM,” to “JMo,” to “SMo.” But it is impossible to confirm that such a transition took place in that order.
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Shep
You can enter my name please... ANd I am fortunate enough to win, could you just send me the first coin, and donate the Cook Island coin to some YN....
Thanks
thanks!
Doug
That type of narrative is one reason I seem to be leaning more and more to the Darkside. World coins have so much history in them. My wife is from Mexico and she always teases me when I speak of "American History" since our history is relatively short compared to Mexico or other countries.
Thanks again for the rundown on the coin and for the giveaway opportunity!
Danny
It almost looks like a Roman or Greek portrait on the coin which to me would seem strange given it is Peruvian in origin. Perhaps a Pope?
Just a SWAG on my part
Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
Cathy
Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
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Kindly enter me too! No idea on what makes this one rare, but I'm eager to find out now....
Dr J
My omnicoin collection (or how my coin photography has progressed)
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DesertRat
Now, for the correct answer on what makes the Peruvian a scarce variety - it's the lock of hair on the forehead. Here's the common variety on the Bay of E (image courtesy of "Historic Real Treasures"):
Congrats again to the winner and thanks to everyone for playing
DesertRat - PM me your shipping info and I'll have it out to you tomorrow morning.
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Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
Thanks for the chance and for the great history you provided!
PM sent!
Danny