Prooflike and lusterous AU talers?

worldcoinguy

Do descriptions that include "prooflike XF-AU" and "lusterous AU" make you scratch your head? How can AU or XF be legitimately lusterous? I will give Heritage credit for having a nice selection of sede vacante talers in this auction, but the previous owner of the Blue Ridge collection might have had a tendency to clean his prizes.


Fulda taler
Munster taler
munster taler/medal
Eichstatt taler

Does anybody think these scratches were caused by cleaning?
Eichstatt taler #2

ajaan

Eichstatt taler #2 -- looks cleaned to me.

Fulda taler - the rim bump may be a removed mount but very difficult to tell without having the coin in hand.

Preussen

<< <i>Do descriptions that include "prooflike XF-AU" and "lusterous AU" make you scratch your head? >>


Hmmm ...No. Is this a trick question? Seriously, XF - AU coins should have luster remaining; especially an AU. - Preussen

coinkat

I looked at the images...

Silvereagle82

"Seriously, XF - AU coins should have luster remaining; especially an AU. - Preussen"

I agree .... those that I have do (silver and gold)

Cladiator

Luster is a pre-requisite for a truely AU coin.

worldcoinguy

I can't argue with the rationale that AU should have some luster, but I believe luster on a XF coin is uncommon. In the most general terms, the XF means that the coin exhibits wear beyond bag marks and common rub, resulting in the slight wear on the highest points on the coin. If an XF coin is described as lusterous, it seems to me that the most common origin for the luster would be cleaning.

Cruzi

XF-AU should have almost full lustre.

That being said, The US XF-AU is not the same as ours,(Australian), so I could be way off.

A coin that has been cleaned does not have lustre, it is shiny, the mint bloom is removed by cleaning.