1915s Philippines One Centavo (possible S/S)

jetblack740il · November 11, 2006 5:52PM

send it in for conservation or send it in the way it is? PCGS or NGC?

MacCrimmon · November 12, 2006 1:23AM

I tend toward removing the "film" on the surfaces, but they may not be able to or even try with bronze. What is the value?

jetblack740il · November 12, 2006 5:08AM

The last auction on eBay PCGS MS63BN $817.56

MacCrimmon · November 12, 2006 6:17AM

eVEN WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BA A FILM, YOUR CENTAVO LOOKS BETTER THAN THE EbAY COIN....forgive the caps.

Let me guess, you bought this one for $5 in a junk bin.

globalcoin · November 12, 2006 7:46AM

Just drop it in some acetone for a few minutes, then send it in. Just do it with care and cotton balls. That should get rid of any haze/film. What's up with the discoloration near the L on the obverse? NICE COIN

spoon · November 12, 2006 9:10AM

I'd say give NCS a try. It has good looks as is, but I have a feeling they can considerably brighten it up by removing the dirt/smudges. The toning streaks probably can't be touched, though.

jetblack740il · November 13, 2006 11:00PM

I think this coin has a chance for at least MS63 after conservation. I will try to have it conserved and update this thread with the results. The spots on obverse looks like some kind of toning and should come out after conservation.

lordmarcovan · November 14, 2006 1:40PM

Is some of the obverse streakiness I see part of the alloy?

jetblack740il · January 25, 2007 4:42AM

The coin has been conserved and graded by NGC, now on its way back, can anyone guess what the grade is? I will post the after conservation image when I get it back.

shirohniichan · January 25, 2007 5:56AM

<< The coin has been conserved and graded by NGC, now on its way back, can anyone guess what the grade is? I will post the after conservation image when I get it back. >>

63RB?

spinaker2000 · January 25, 2007 6:00AM

<< The coin has been conserved and graded by NGC, now on its way back, can anyone guess what the grade is? I will post the after conservation image when I get it back. >>

No! Tell us now!!

jetblack740il · January 25, 2007 7:09AM

Prior to conservation, the coin was in the PCGS holder graded AU58BN, and after posting it here asking your opinion, I cracked it and send it for conservation. Now that is graded, it is now in the NGC holder MS64BN.

MacCrimmon · January 25, 2007 7:14AM

<< Prior to conservation, the coin was in the PCGS holder graded AU58BN, and after posting it here asking your opinion, I cracked it and send it for conservation. Now that is graded, it is now in the NGC holder MS64BN. >>

Any new images?

spinaker2000 · January 25, 2007 7:25AM

<< Prior to conservation, the coin was in the PCGS holder graded AU58BN, and after posting it here asking your opinion, I cracked it and send it for conservation. Now that is graded, it is now in the NGC holder MS64BN. >>

Bailathacl · January 25, 2007 7:47AM

Wow, a conservation that eliminated wear.... NCS sure IS good...!

Great result on a fine coin though, can't wait to see the conserved piece....

jetblack740il · January 25, 2007 1:00PM

<< Any new images? >>

I will post it when I get back.

FilamCoins · January 25, 2007 11:24PM

is right!

Can someone please explain this to me? How does a coin jump 6 points from almost unc to choice unc with conservation? Eye appeal? Luster? PCGS vs NGC?

Funny that I had a similiar experience with this date. Bought a slider for around $250 a few years ago and came back NGC 62 RB. A shocking but pleasant surprise!

shirohniichan · January 26, 2007 1:07AM

<< Wow, a conservation that eliminated wear.... NCS sure IS good...!

Great result on a fine coin though, can't wait to see the conserved piece.... >>

I have some AU58 coins I'd like conserved to MS64, also. Where do I send them?

jetblack740il · January 26, 2007 8:44PM

<< Can someone please explain this to me? How does a coin jump 6 points from almost unc to choice unc with conservation? Eye appeal? Luster? PCGS vs NGC? >>

Mr. FilAm, I believed PCGS graded it AU58 is because of the dirt/smudges on both obverse and reverse. There is a lot of lusters present covered with some kind of haze film. This is what I would do.... I will try to crossed it to PCGS without cracking it, to see if conservation makes the difference.

Justhavingfun · January 28, 2007 12:31AM

USPICoinEnthusiast · January 30, 2007 1:18AM

I'm sorry, but what I meant to say was that the 1915-S centavo was once considered a great rarity, and a key to the series along with the 1914, '16, and '18 Large S's ... the 1920 and '20-S, and the 1917-S overdates.

But now I'm becoming convinced that the 15-S is more common than I had believed and that it's only a semi-key, not a key. And then the $800 smackers realized on e-bay for an MS63 was not unreasonable. Not a great price but a decent price.

In any case, jetblack, it was a real coup on your behalf to get the coin upgraded from AU to MS64. Congratulations!

Warm regards,

Just Having Fun

jetblack740il · January 30, 2007 3:33AM

Here is the after conservation images:

jetblack740il · January 31, 2007 2:38PM

I looks like this is an S/S, and whats up with the 5 on the date?

jetblack740il · February 3, 2007 9:26PM

Wow! Lyman Allen does not list a variety but Ray Czahor has one listed as s/s to the south. This confirmed that s/s exist.

spinaker2000 · February 3, 2007 9:31PM

$$$

jetblack740il · March 28, 2007 3:14PM

<< << Can someone please explain this to me? How does a coin jump 6 points from almost unc to choice unc with conservation? Eye appeal? Luster? PCGS vs NGC? >> >>

<< Mr. FilAm, I believed PCGS graded it AU58 is because of the dirt/smudges on both obverse and reverse. There is a lot of lusters present covered with some kind of haze film. This is what I would do.... I will try to crossed it to PCGS without cracking it, to see if conservation makes the difference. >>

Here is the results that I crossed to PCGS:
Order #20092499 / Submission #9066694
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 03828313 90249 1908-S 10C U.S. PHIL MS64
2 1 03828314 90205 1928-M 5C U.S. PHIL MS64
3 1 03828315 90066 1915-S 1C U.S. PHIL MS64BN
4 1 03828316 90072 1917/6-S 1C U.S. PHIL AU58BN

SYRACUSIAN · March 28, 2007 8:07PM

So it crossed to PCGS! You should have asked for the $/$ attribution too.

Justhavingfun · March 28, 2007 10:23PM

Wow, and you got your 1917/6-S to cross, and that's a great rarity. Congratulations both on the wonderful upgrade of the 1915-S and the cross over on the overdate!

Warm regards,

Just Having Fun

MSD61 · March 28, 2007 11:07PM

Outstanding! Congrats to you!!

jetblack740il · March 30, 2007 11:39AM

<< Wow, and you got your 1917/6-S to cross, and that's a great rarity. Congratulations both on the wonderful upgrade of the 1915-S and the cross over on the overdate! >>

1917/6-S was crossed twice, first it failed for DNC then the second turn around put down minimum grade of AU55BN but graded AU58BN anyway.

1915s Philippines One Centavo (possible S/S)

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