POLL: What age should one no longer be considered a "Young Numismatist" and stop being pri

dthigpen

It seems that many of the individuals who are over 18 and still consider themselves 'YNs' are extremely immature as far as their personal life development goes and by continuing to embrace them by a 'YN standard' that we are coddling them unneccesarily and further inhibiting their development and ability to stand on their own. Adults should not be passively 'begging' for free coins under the auspices of being a child.

Now, with that said, I am always open to other opinions. What do you think?

Russ

<< <i>36 and still living with their parents >>



AKA, the cherwood option.

Russ, NCNE

Whizzard

18 year olds should be 'out the door' either to college or to a job. Same applies to YNs.

dthigpen

I don't want this to be a negative thread, so I'll go ahead and name a YN that I believe has truly shined on these boards and is deserving and grateful of every opportunity afforded to him as a Young Numismatist:

notlogical

tpfnar

I voted 18, but I think 16 is probably a better answer.

I collected coins from about 7 to 15.

Then I got my drivers license and my world expanded. I could go anywhere with anyone and I found out that girls were more interesting than coins (and softer too).

Then after 30 got back into coins on and off. Now I'm just old.

But I don't remember anybody ever giving my any coins as a kid. I had to save money and buy them myself.

Bochiman

If you can join the US military at 18 yo, then that is when you are an adult (in my eyes). Of course, many still aren't mature and that is part of the reason the drinking age is 21yo. Of course, many of those are still not mature which is why you put "36 and still living with parents" as an option

granddad

I voted for 18. However, at that age an individual should possess enough self worth, that they would not feel a need to post such a frivolous thread.


Have a Great Day!
Louis

dthigpen

It seemed that the attitude of many young people in our society has changed drastically in the past decade or two. Instead of aspiring to be a responsible, grown adult, many tend to try and stretch out their childhood as long as possible and take advantage of the generosity of their parents and others in their lives for as long as they can. So perhaps the individuals voting for the later ages shouldn't be blamed, rather just considered an unfortunate side effect of our current societal standards.

Coxe

I dunno. How old is Scott Travers now?

dthigpen

<< <i>I voted for 18. However, at that age an individual should possess enough self worth, that they would not feel a need to post such a frivolous thread.


Have a Great Day!
Louis >>



Indeed granddad. Of course, senile behavior is well accounted for in all of your threads.

Julio

When my son was 12, he's 15 now, I posted a sign on his bedroom door, it reads: Check out is 18. Had the same sign on my bedroom door when I was 12. Dad wasn't kidding, nor am I. jws

IGWT

All the way up to 65 judging by the average maturity level on the boards.

Dentuck

Given the hobby's current demographics, anyone from 25 to 40 could be considered "young."

HTubbs

18,when they reach adulthood...

garsmith

When the teen years end - twenty!

My choice wasn't up there so I picked the closest "21"

Bochiman

<< <i>Given the hobby's current demographics, anyone from 25 to 40 could be considered "young." >>



So true....when I go to a coin show (esp when I stand by Russ), I feel young (at 38)

JLW

How old was Cammie when he got a "real job"?
Joe

JrGMan2004

I say 18... the ANA memberships call the 18-21 year old memberships "Student" memberships instead of YN memberships, but they the same thing...

mercurydimeguy

When they sell their first coin, which they bought with their own money, for profit. When you buy and sell for proft your innocence is lost, in my eyes anyway.

As a YN one is sowing. Once you reap, you've crossed the line over to the darkside and join the rest of us greedy, evil so-called collectors.

So, what will it be -- the blue pill or the red pill?

p8nt

Both of these are threads I started a while ago and I think they pertain to this discussion.

When does someone "expire" being a YN?

Should YN's be treated "specially" when it comes to numismatics?

Bochiman

<< <i>When they sell their first coin, which they bought with their own money, for profit. When you buy and sell for proft your innocence is lost, in my eyes anyway.

As a YN one is sowing. Once you reap, you've crossed the line over to the darkside and join the rest of us greedy, evil so-called collectors.

So, what will it be -- the blue pill or the red pill? >>



Ya know something? I hadn't thought of that part....once they have bought & sold a coin for their own gain.
I would have to agree with that I think, but not on their first coin, just if they make it a habit (ie...do it more than a few times and not just for upgrade purposes of their set(s)....

Trime

What is this about. Let's encourage young collectors! They are the future.

zkcoins

I voted for 18.

goose3

18 Period.

When I, and I assume many others, see the term "YN" we assume that the person is a JUVENILE.

Not the case many times even though some people will permit everyone to think they are.

mgoodm3

18

Tonedbuff

18. Still very, very young in this hobby. I'm in the early 40's and feel very young when at shows... so I think we should give some extra help and encouragement to those 18 and under.

Connecticoin

Dthigpen, I'm not aware of any 18-21 year olds trying to "score" YN freebies --- have there been any recent events/discussions that lead you to believe there are?

numisma

MadMarty is still considered a YN by many, although he is well over the age of 18.

RYK

I voted 21, so long as they are full-time students. Otherwise, 18. Anyone who has a real, full-time job (or c/w/should have a real, full-time job), does not deserve freebies and perks as a YN, IMO.

lkenefic

I voted 21 as well for much the same reasons. I think had there been more support of YNs in the late '70s early '80s I might have not taken such a long collecting hiatus.

Leo

Michigan

At 18 you are out of high school (usually) and the YN status should end. Not all aspects of adulthood begin
at 18 but enough do to no longer qualify you as a YN (maybe JN (Juvenile numismatist) would be a better
term.

michael

<< 36 and still living with their parents >>



AKA, the cherwood option.




aint that the tooth................ truer words

have never been spoken as such on these here hillbilly forums

truth is always stranger than fiction

michael

ziggy29

There should be no such thing as "entitled" benefits. No one is "entitled" to anything from others, regardless of age.

If some people want to occasionally create a giveaway for a YN, or freely and generously share their experience and knowledge, great. But no one is "entitled" to it. In fact, my biggest fear with all the YN giveaways and stuff is that they will start to *feel* entitled to it all.

stman

<< <i>But no one is "entitled" to it. In fact, my biggest fear with all the YN giveaways and stuff is that they will start to *feel* entitled to it all. >>



They need to go get a "J" O" B" and pay for they own coins.

tpfnar

At 16 you're still the responsibility of your parents
At 18 you're a legal adult able to consent to contracts, vote and serve in the military
At 21 you can sit in a nudie bar and drink beer

ziggy29

<< <i>At 18 you're a legal adult able to consent to contracts, vote and serve in the military
At 21 you can sit in a nudie bar and drink beer >>

In other words, if you're 18, 19 or 20, you're old enough to die for your country but not old enough to have a beer. Nice.

michael

i am still a young boi

would anyone care to pm me and send me something ??

i will make sure it gets put to good use

Michigan

I don't know the definition of "young" numismatist is for the ANA programs but I suspect the age limit is 18. Anyone 18 or over shouldn't
be bidding in the YN auctions etc. or getting free handouts of common coins for the "children" at the Baltimore show etc.

dthigpen

<< <i>Dthigpen, I'm not aware of any 18-21 year olds trying to "score" YN freebies --- have there been any recent events/discussions that lead you to believe there are? >>



I don't want to single individuals out and say they're trying to 'score freebies', but there are a couple vocal 'YNs' that denote it in their sigline that are 18+ in the Coin Forum. In fact, I'm not sure of any real active ones that are under 18, the ones that are seem to rarely post.

None of them decided to actually contribute to this thread. I'm sure they all voted 21 though.

dthigpen

Well, it seems at this time an overwhelming majority of board members believe that a YN is no longer a YN once they turn 18, while a sample believe that they are a YN until they are 21, and a couple believing that individuals who are developmentally disabled are still considered a YN at 36.

Out of the individuals who voted for 16/18, have you ever done any YN specific giveaways? If so, would you be annoyed if someone over 18 entered claiming to be a YN and won? Has this happened to anyone here?

crispy

<< <i>I voted 18, but I think 16 is probably a better answer.

I collected coins from about 7 to 15.

Then I got my drivers license and my world expanded. I could go anywhere with anyone and I found out that girls were more interesting than coins (and softer too).

Then after 30 got back into coins on and off. Now I'm just old.

But I don't remember anybody ever giving my any coins as a kid. I had to save money and buy them myself. >>





This sounds like the path I chose as a youngster. I found that the money I spent on coins as a child were better spent on the fairer sex when I started noticing them. Then college and the accompanying social life. I rediscovered coins at a later time in my life. I always had a job/s growing up. I saved for college and the other things that I deemed relevant at those times.

coinnut86

I chose 18, the age you are legally considered an adult.

dthigpen

<< <i>I chose 18, the age you are legally considered an adult. >>



Thanks for the input!

dthigpen

I'm really interested to hear Amanda's opinion on the whole topic.

Petescorner

I'm 38 but I'm very immature emotionally. Can I still be a YN?

ledzep87

I chose 18. At this time, the person is considered an adult and should be treated as such.

dthigpen

<< <i>I'm 38 but I'm very immature emotionally. Can I still be a YN? >>



No Cheryl.

p8nt

<< <i>I'm really interested to hear Amanda's opinion on the whole topic. >>



I think I am sensing the purpose of this thread...

dthigpen

<< <i>

<< <i>I'm really interested to hear Amanda's opinion on the whole topic. >>



I think I am sensing the purpose of this thread...

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It honestly wasn't direct at any particular individual, it is just a popular topic and I thought a current polling would be appropriate for reference. I am very interested in hearing current 'YNs' opinions on the matter though. They may just sway my opinion on the other direction, who knows.

Gator5220

I think this may be the only thread she hasn't posted to.