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1977 unopened scam?

williplettwilliplett Posts: 471 ✭✭
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There is currently an auction that I have been watching. It is for an entire box of 1977 baseball with one pack already having been graded 7.5 by GAI. The auction throws up several red flags. No PayPal accepted over $100, private, no returns since due to the possibility of resealing. There are of other things that make me steer clear as well. I did put in a snipe for $99.99 since I would still have the protection of PayPal, now that the bid is over $100, I will be bowing out.

Anyone else see this? Thoughts?

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  • ToppsCo1lectorToppsCo1lector Posts: 2,633
    So the seal on the box is broken and only one pack was graded? Seems like a definite scam to me.
    Collecting;
    Mark Mulder rookies
    Chipper Jones rookies
    Orlando Cabrera rookies
    Lawrence Taylor
    Sam Huff
    Lavar Arrington
    NY Giants
    NY Yankees
    NJ Nets
    NJ Devils
    1950s-1960s Topps NY Giants Team cards

    Looking for Topps rookies as well.

    References:
    GregM13
    VintageJeff
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seller also has other vintage boxes up for sale with the same deal. Of course, who can know for sure if any of these already graded GAI packs were even taken from the boxes pictured behind them. And why grade only ONE pack from a 36-count wax box? I'd also be very skeptical and pass on any of these. Especially with no Paypal.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 632
    private? you mean private auction or private feedback? not sure i follow... more info please.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The auctions themselves are private so that no one can see who the bidders are (and possibly e-mail them). Another red flag.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And why not show the packs in the boxes?? For all we know, they could be empty!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 632
    what's the seller's feedback like?
  • williplettwilliplett Posts: 471 ✭✭
    His feedback is good, but is only 72.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My feeling is that if you have to wonder if the auction is less than legitimate, than it's really not worth bidding on in the first place. Especially with all the red flags here (no paypal over $100, private auction, low feedback, curious one-pack-graded in front of closed box). Why risk getting burned with no recourse when you can spend a few extra bucks more and rest easy?


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Bad outcome likely.

    Seller's recent previous auctions not private.

    Shill may have had to "buy" a previously
    listed box.

    bbcexchange is always safe. Why take a
    chance on a "suspicious" looking thing?

    storm
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
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