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Hey gang,

I have some questions regarding Jefferson and Sacs.

JEFFERSONS:
1) What's the deal with the prices on 1982 P&D, 83 P&D, and 84P? I have a handful of these in circulated condition and was wondering why they have values in Numismedia Fair Market Value above their face even in circulated condition???? I'm clueless so please explainimage

2) "Filled D" mint marks on Jeffersons......What's the deal with these? I have a 1975 D and 1980 D where the D is solid! Found these in cirulcated rolls and was wondering if there is anything to them?

SACS (Golden Dollar):
1) I went to a local bank recently and asked the teller for some shiny Sacs or UNC rolls if they had any (I know- long shot). Well, she said she had a few rolls and proceeded to open some up and take out the shiny ones for me (she was a great person!). She put them in a roll and I bought them for face value ($25). When I got home and took them out they all appeared to be Brilliant or Gem UNC. They were 50/50 2000 Ds and Ps along with one 2001P. My question is, should I keep these and are they worth anything more than face? I saw the Numismedia guide list them higher than face for UNC, but in the real world, how hard is it to find these at face value for UNC ones?? I did call several banks in my area and these were hard to find in general, except if I wanted one that was brown and circulatedimage I believe this bank has some more UNC Sacs like this and was wondering if should grab them? I'm trying to save money right now and keeping these would be fine only if they is some potential to at least quadruple in value otherwise I'm going to send them back to the bank. Or maybe I could them above face as a UNC roll on Ebay? Opinions? Suggestions?

THANKS!
BigBEn

Comments

  • Jefferson
    1982 and 1983 no mint sets were issued, so no cutting out nice coins, also the mintages for 82,83,84 were considered a little lower, hence the price. The 82 and 83 were issued in bags, hece many wen't into circulation. My best 2 cents.

    As for the Filled D, never seen a premium on these coins.


    Sac's, no help here!
  • As far as the nickles......the 82 & 83 weren't issued in mint sets so if you come across some nice one it pays to save a few.
    There were some issued in souvenere sets. Can't remark on the 84.......or the other Jeffersons'
    As far as the Sacagaweas'...... the 2000 P & D were issued for circulation and 2001.If you want one brown keep it in you pocket for a while .
    I have a 2002 P as a pocket piece I carry now and then.
    There were a lot of Sackies shipped to South America from what I understand a while ago back in 2000.

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    ......Larry........image
  • Thanks for the info on the nickels. Are the circulated ones even worth keeping?

    For the Sac folks, can you chime in on whether or not getting uncirculated 20002001 Sacs at the bank at face value are worth keeping?

    Thanks!

    BigBen
  • NumisMeNumisMe Posts: 841 ✭✭
    I hate to tell you this, but circulated SACs are worth about $1...Maybe image
    However, the uncirculated ones that grade in the upper tier are quite valuable in todays market. image
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Circulated '82 and '83 coins are extremely common. They are rarely found in really nice XF
    or AU condition any more so these are worth the trouble of saving. There are numerous varieties
    of the '82 nickels and a couple of these are tough in any condition.

    The '84-P nickels was just one of those dates that were overlooked. The availability of most coins
    made since 1934 has much less to do with how few were minted than with how many get saved.
    Even the scarcest coins made in the last 70 years are usually widely enough available that people
    can set aside as many as they want. In '84 everyone knew the mint sets were returning so there
    was no need to save nickels and the Philly issue was very poorly made. Even those who planned
    to set some aside might change their minds when they saw the quality of this issue. These suffer
    from being struck by worn dies and to a lesser extent tend to have poor surfaces.

    Nice circulated '84-P's may well be a better bet than the '82 and '83 issues. As far as that goes, there
    are dozens of dates throughout the moderns that are a better bet in nice circulated condition. The
    best way to figure out which is to try to assemble a set.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 2001 P Sacagawea and the 2000 Ds are probably worth a dollar There is a variety/pattern/special minted 2000 P Sacagawea that may have slipped into the group. It has different tail feathers and you can educate yourself a little bit with the following link.
    I think I read somewhere, that it was referred to as the 13 tail feather design, while the regular issue is considered a 12 feather design. But you'll see a distinct difference on the reverse.

    Hidden Treasure Link
  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 12 Tail Feathers vs. 13 Tail Feathers reverse is incorrect. They have always exhibited 12 Tail Feathers. This is discussed in the link above under the section titled "HERE'S HOW THIS DISCOVERY CAME ABOUT
    A FULL FIVE YEARS AFTER IT'S RELEASE".
  • I's been six years since the release of the 2000 Sac. They've barely moved at all in unc, unless of high grade, of course. cm
  • Thanks again for all the great info!
  • On the solid D mintmarks. The mintmark on the coin is raised. This mans that in the die it must be incuse or sunk into the surface of the die. Try to visualize this think of a flat surface with this D cut down into the surface. You can see that in the center of the D is a spire of meta that rises up and tops out even with the reast of the surrounding flat surface. It is that spire of metal that forms the hollow in the D when the coin is struck. Now if for some reason the die chips and that spire breaks off down ther n the botom of that hole, the resulting D will be a solid blob. It can and has happened on many different years of coins.
  • Allow me to brag a minute...

    I bought a really nice 82-P Jeff awhile back just because the quarters from that date went up so much and I could easily afford to pay 25 cents for the nickel. Right now it is my best coin purchase, especially since I saw an 82-P at a coin show last year for $9 and mine is much nicer. I know the $8.75 price gain is peanuts but I prefer to tell folks it's gone up 36 times with more appreciation on the way....
    Some call it an accumulation not a collection

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