Has this 1873 arrows seated dime been altered?

crazy4coins2005

This dime has more folds than the standard design and I was wondering if this coin has been altered or what. For example the extra folds on the kneecap. Thanks.

coinfreak499

The three looks weird....

MikeInFL

I agree, there's something going on with the gown. Looks like post-mint damage to me, which is also visible on Liberty's left arm and forearm....Mike

sadysta1

is it me or the brests are a little too big as well?

mojorizn

If you look at the center of the coin you can see where something circular and hollow was crudely stamped onto the surface of the coin. The damage on the leg continues in a circular manner over the left (her left) elbow, across the abdomen, across the upper right thigh, corner of the shield, and the right knee.

Mojo

dcarr

There is a circular gouge near the center - probably from a counting machine or something similar.

michael

looks like a contemporary counterfeit to me

granddad

Could be a Janet Jackson Vam.

Have a Great Day!
Louis

crazy4coins2005

So does it look more like it was damaged or a counterfeit?

lloydmincy

Too many characteristics on it that it's a fake. Only had to glace at it.

UPDATE - Sorry - I thought it was a CC. Otherwise, why would it even bother to be fake?? That is why I thought it was...

crazy4coins2005

<< <i>Too many characteristics on it that it's a fake. Only had to glace at it. >>



But why would someone want to create a fake that has more characteristics than the original? Kind of defeats the purpose.

Conder101

Dime bank! There was a somewhat popular coin bank back in either the 1930's or 40's that was in the form of a metal tube that held $5 worth of dimes. To keep the dime from rattling around when it wasn't full it had a threaded rod with a disk on th end that went down through the center of the tube and could be tightened against the coins to hold them in place. If the rod was tightened too much it would cut a circular groove or gouge around the center of the coin. I've seen a few of them and there is a gentleman on one of he mail lists I subscribe to has put together almost an entire mercury dime set with these circular grooves.

coinguy1

The coin looks to be genuine and suffering from post-production damage. I believe that those who have questioned its authenticity are letting their imaginations get the best of them, and I like Condor's dime bank theory.

Barry

I believe there were also some counting machines of yore that left circular marks on coins.

mojorizn

I'd still take it despite the damage. Neat story coin.

Mojo

lathmach

Genuine coin with post mint damage.

Ray

crazy4coins2005

What does this coin grade?

CaptHenway

You are correct, Sir! I have two of those metal monsters in my desk at work. A screw at one end presses down on the top coin to keep the stack from rattling.
One of the two circ. 1894-S dimes shows damage from one of these banks!
Tom D.



<< <i>Dime bank! There was a somewhat popular coin bank back in either the 1930's or 40's that was in the form of a metal tube that held $5 worth of dimes. To keep the dime from rattling around when it wasn't full it had a threaded rod with a disk on th end that went down through the center of the tube and could be tightened against the coins to hold them in place. If the rod was tightened too much it would cut a circular groove or gouge around the center of the coin. I've seen a few of them and there is a gentleman on one of he mail lists I subscribe to has put together almost an entire mercury dime set with these circular grooves. >>

coppercoins

The more modern counting and rolling machines leaves circular scratches (not impressions) on the coins much closer to the rim than this little beast. Whatever this is I cannot say for sure, but I can say for sure that it's not a counting machine. I like Conder's dime bank theory too...matches up well with what's going on with the coin and he...well, he's just a really knowledgeable fella.

sinin1

probably grades XF

could go AU if luster is present, doesn't look like it is


many people do not collect 'damaged' coins, although this one looks nice


only ANACS or NCS would put it in a slab

Dismeguy

Little late with this post but here goes... dime is the F-112 variety and is genuine. All 1873 with arrows dimes come with an open 3.

The circular scratches are from a coin bank. This type of damage is fairly common on seated dimes.

Here are pics of the F-112 variety. Note the long reverse die scratch on the oak leaves (lower right wreath).

RYK

This seated dime on James Garcia's website has the same circular mark.

boyhowdy

retooled?

Steve