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Congratulation to Aconte for completing awesome SGC 1954 Red Man set!

1954 Red Man Set


I have always enjoyed the vivid colors and illustrations on these oversized cards. This twenty-five card set is one of the only complete sets on the entire SGC set registry. I know how difficult it is to find high grade cards in SGC holders which makes this an even greater accomplishment.

100 percent completion and 86.74 average grade no less!

Way to go Aconte!image

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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    way to go Tone image

    I hear there is going to be a soldier registry soon!
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations Tony. You worked a long time on that set. Do you plan to keep upgrading or are you changing your focus to another set?
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Congratulation to Aconte for completing awesome SGC 1954 Red Man set! >>

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    Very sharp! I especially like the Reese and Campanella cards.


    << <i>I have always enjoyed the vivid colors and illustrations on these oversized cards >>


    Me too Koby! Thanx for sharing his set with us.
    Mike
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    Mike
  • qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    TONY - Great job! Quite the achievement in any holder and in any grade. And your grades are indeed impressive! ...jay
  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations! - wow, you are almost complete in the 55's as well, nice job.
  • Nice job Tony!

    By the way, Tony is almost complete in every year. He could have been complete awhile ago, but he tries not to settle on filler cards, rather he scrutinizes his cards very carefully so that he gets the strongest cards available for the grade.
  • RobbyRobby Posts: 674 ✭✭✭
    Tony .........Very IMPRESSIVE set ! Especially liked the Larry "Yogi" Berra card ! I never knew Yogi's first name until I looked at that card ! ..............Robby
    Collect 1964 Topps Baseball
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  • << <i>I never knew Yogi's first name until I looked at that card ! >>



    me neither !!! awesome awesome set !!!image
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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Thanks all for the positive comments. I do appreciate it alot! And I appreciate you posting this here Koby about an Sgc set.

    I can say that while my set has taken a lot of time to get this way I must especially thank the top Psa red man guy - "RGOLD"
    and the top Sgc red man guy - "Mrredman." Both of these guys have shared their collecting knowledge and insight that
    has helped along the way. Both have sold me cards along the way. And both have sets that are superior to mine. I just post
    more.image I also love the colors on the cards. The 50's brings back some great moments in baseball. I always love to see the
    look in my uncle's eyes when he talks about Bobby Thomson's homerun....some great stuff...like we're there when he talks
    about it...

    The cards are tough to find raw in high grade. Sometimes the tabs have too much smudging and that may lead to a pass.
    Other times the corners just are too rough for a nm grade or better. But I enjoy the chase even when it is quiet.

    Gemint,

    My goal overall is to complete the 52 + 53 set in a grade of 7 (84) average or better with no cards less than Sgc 80.
    My goal for the 54 + 55 set is to have all cards graded Sgc 84 or better. I'm not sure if I'm going to chase an 8 (88)
    average. I think with the 55 set I'll have it once I get the Piersall. I had the chance to pickup an Sgc 88 1954 Willie Mays
    but was quite disappointed with the card when I got to view it in person. I did not push hard for the card since I thought
    my Sgc 84 was the the same to me. After that I don't know if I do another graded set for a while. I'm working on
    team sets - 51 Bowman Eagles + 81 Topps Phillies in graded form. But I'm not very aggressive here. And as Neal (1420)
    alluded to I'm now buying toy soldiers from the 30's and 40's. Crazy huh???

    Again, thanks all for the compliments. Good luck on all your collecting goals. I hope that you all enjoy not just the chase
    of the sets and cards you need but the actual cards themselves for what they represent a moment in time and a fun
    part of life! I know we are all just borrowing the cards and sometimes you are forced to sell. I hope that more of us
    get to keep and enjoy the cards after the chase is complete. It's a reward for all that hard work.

    And remember... Red Mans Rock!image

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    aconte
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Great Job Tony....you have one heck of a collection going.
  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    Tony,

    Congrats on the set! Very impressive. I really appreciate you sharing your experiences with the Red Mans over here.

    I hope to get to meet you in Cleveland.


    Regards,


    Alan

  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭
    Tony , that's a great looking set and a nice post about the cards themselves. At one point my partner & I had a few of these in lower grades but at the time we were turning over cards as rapidly as possible & I believe they're all gone now. It seems 1 or 2 were Williams cards , is he in 1 of the sets? Any chance you have a duplicate Parnell you'd like to sell or trade?

    I've got to say I really like the SGC slab too. At one point I contemplated collecting my sets in them but ultimately decided on PSA mostly because of availability. I just won a lot of '65 Topps a week or so ago which had 1 SCd & 1 SGC card in it . Both slabs look great.

    Again congratulations on a great effort and beautiful cards, the cards are indeed what it's all about.

    Dave
    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?

  • That is an AWESOME set in any holder!image
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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Alan,

    I don't think I'll make Cleveland this year.image



    << <i>Williams cards , is he in 1 of the sets? Any chance you have a duplicate Parnell you'd like to sell or trade? >>



    Dave,

    Yes Williams is in the 52 set. And no dice on a Parnell card. I actually need his 53 card.

    Tony (aconte)
  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    funny, I actually just got my First ever 1954 Red man, today
    and felt bad because it is in a SGC holder... but it seems that
    others collect this in that holder. Maybe I will keep it in it
    and not cross it over to PSA....

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    Just got around to reading this thread. Great job, Tony.

    I've been trying to learn how to post pics. Did this work?
  • Guess not. How's this?image
  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭

    << I hope that you all enjoy not just the chase of the sets and cards you need, but the actual cards themselves for what they represent.... a moment in time and a fun part of life! >>

    Nicely said, Tony

    Congrat's on a great set.

    Mike

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  • highendhighend Posts: 534
    awesome set indeed....i especially like the yankees card. i'm even thinking about adding the ford , rizzuto, berra, bauer to my yankee collection. how is the market for those cards in psa 7?
  • The prices for PSA 7 Red Man cards depend primarily on the PSA 8 populations. There are currently less than 800 PSA 8's graded in all four years. Although currently there are probably less than 10 set collectors, competition for nice PSA 7's can be tough for those cards that have relatively low PSA 8 populations. And of course, there seems to always be more competition for Yankees and Dodgers.

    I would expect to pay $50 to $100 for most PSA 7 commons. Look to the SMR price for stars, and expect to pay more for those where collectors need PSA 7's because PSA 8's are not available.

    High population PSA 8's may sell at a discount to SMR, lower population PSA 8's can sell 1 1/2 to 3 times SMR. I guess this holds true for just about any set, but unlike your mainstream sets, there are limited numbers of raw Red Man cards to be graded in the future. I am unaware of any large numbers of raw collections, unopened packs, warehouse finds, etc.

    Now would be a good time to buy your first Red Man cards before new set collectors, player and team set collectors come into the market. For any info on what makes a nice PSA 7 Red Man card, there is no better source than Tony. Hope this helps.


  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    Any estimate as to what the PSA 8 Mays on ebay should go for? That is one beautiful card!
  • highendhighend Posts: 534
    rgold- thanks for the reply, i think i may try to pick some up. they are really cool looking cards.....jim
  • 1954 Red Man Willie Mays PSA 8 should sell for $1500-2500. Current population is 6 PSA 8 and only 1 PSA 9.

    You could pick up a 1955 Red Man Mays cheaper. Same card with a different color background. Currently 12 population in PSA 8.

    1952 Red Man Mays, with a population of 5 in Psa 8, $2000-3000. Most 1952 Red Man cards sell for more than the other years, with a PSA 8 population of only 116 for the whole set. 1952 is also the only year that Ted Willliams appears in the set.

    Willie Mays does not appear in the 1953 Red Man set.

  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Rgold is correct on the pricing. You can not go wrong with a nice 7. The pricing on those at times is quite affordable compared
    to an 8. What I look for in a 7 is a card with decent corners that might have touches on three corners that prevent it from
    being an 8. A scan on ebay should allow you to judge the corners. Also, if you are looking for a nice seven check out the
    tab for no or little smudging, the bio box for very little black specs or no print marks, clean edges, and registration. Sometimes
    the cards can be out of focus. Not often, but it does happen.

    I've seen quite a few raw red man's on ebay over the last few years. The majority that are described as nm or better are
    not. Most raw with tabs is in vg to ex condition. Don't be fooled. These raw cards can sell for quite a premium at times
    compared to their graded ex counterparts. The one drawback with buying what may appear to be near mint or better is that
    it can be difficult to view a wrinkle or crease with an ebay scan. So if you like affordable nice cards that display very well
    you can not go wrong with Psa 5's or 6's. And if you don't mind other grading companies an Sgc 60 or 80 can also do the trick.
    Stars + Hofers should go from 100% of Smr to 125% in these grades. But you never know on ebay. You might get be able
    to grab them at 75% of SMR. It can go the other way too! Commons go for around SMR or a tad more in ex grade.

    On the Mays, the 55 is the easiest from a red man point of view. My favorite set is the 54 because of the handful of variations.
    The only drawback on the 54 set for me is no Stan Musial. He is in the 52 and 53 set. The 53 Musial is one of my favorites. I
    also like the 53 and 55 Hoyt Wilhem cards because of the backgrounds. Mickey Vernon's 55 card screams with color!

    Good luck highend if you decide to grab any red man cards.

    aconte
  • vettfanaticvettfanatic Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    Congrats on an awesome set. I was just over at SGC checking it out. You've reached your stated goal and them some since this thread was posted. The Redmans look awesome!!
  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on an awesome set. I was just over at SGC checking it out. You've reached your stated goal and them some since this thread was posted. The Redmans look awesome!! >>




    Nice Start!
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on an awesome set. I was just over at SGC checking it out. You've reached your stated goal and them some since this thread was posted. The Redmans look awesome!! >>



    Lol! I guess I should update my sets over there!

    Red man cards are my favorite but unfortunately I like a lot of stuff and decided to put my efforts into rebuilding and completing the 52 red man set in near mint grade or better. They are nice
    cards for sure and the artwork is great. The size is a nice small set with loads of hall of famers. Too bad there is no Mantle or Jackie Robinson!

    Sold most of those recently to upgrade my 52 set which I need to update. That and decided to add to my 75 unopened collection.....that is if grote leaves any crumbs behind. I was just going to pm
    you on the 75 Topps rack you were offering when I saw it was gone....lol....

    aconte
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    link doesn't work.
  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    The 54 Red man is a beautiful set. I'm building it raw, mostly VG grade, but am having a heck of a time trying to find the last 3 cards I need = Philley, Slaughter, and Bell. They never seem to come up for auction in any grade.

    "Molon Labe"

  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    corvette, its because the link and thread are 7-1/2 years old lol

    I tried it too.

    I have many couponless 1952s ....95% I removed from a scrapbook (got them for about $2 ea in bulk), love the colors and also having cards scarcer than the extremely common 1952Topps cards, for a fraction of the $$

    might as well show some "collector grade" stuff since this is an old post..... image

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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Crazy to see this thread alive again!

    Well here is an upgrade I just bought for my 52 set:

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    And here is one from CU member Doran:

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    And here is a link to the RGOLD red man world (note the Reese pack on the bottom right!image )



    aconte RED MAN'S ROCK!
  • great thread, I finished the set in psa 5-6 a while back and sold this soon after.



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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Crazy to see this thread alive again!

    Well here is an upgrade I just bought for my 52 set:

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    And here is one from CU member Doran:

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    And here is a link to the RGOLD red man world (note the Reese pack on the bottom right!image )


    Nice cards Tony! Are there any low pop commons that are hard to find in NM-MT or better?
    aconte RED MAN'S ROCK! >>

  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    John,

    For the 54 set, the tough ones include both #19N - Gus Bell and Enos Slaughter as Ted mentions. Both are very tough along with the Philley, Mele, and Kell variations. But the #19's are the toughest.
    The 52 set is a little harder than the other three years and the most sought after.

    aconte
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