Intercept Shield Album Ruined My Set
crito
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I just pulled out my Washington quarter Intercept Shield album (1932-1998) and all my proof coins have hazed over very badly. I assembled an identical set in a Whitman album at the same time and they're all fine. Needless to say, I'm quite irritated at the moment. Will post pictures as soon as my camera battery has recharged. Oddly enough, the statehood quarter album seems to be fine. Must be something in the paper. Who do I sue?
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I have a Whitman Jefferson folder with 2-sides slides - the proof neckels are turning very lovely with a light purple around the periphery
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Were all the albums stored in the same location? Seems odd. If you're throwing the album away, I or another board member would gladly take it off your hands.
Good luck with the restoration.
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I thought they had some sort of guarantee but I do not see it -
they imply these albums are so good, you will get an extra 60 years of tarnish resistance
... or whatever ...
Yes, the albums were stored together on a bookshelf away from direct sunlight. The business strikes haven't toned much and no where near as fugly.
Suppose you let nature take its course and could they tone fully and cover over the haze?
One man's haze is another's rainbow!
But from a legal standpoint, do not disturb or remove the coins, any of them. I'm sure before they will make good on anything, they will want to look into this. They might actually be very interested since this is exactly what isn't supposed to happen with those albums.
Let's us know how it turns out.
Michael
That sucks
first the light-hearted humor-----sounds like a bummer of a day, first the coins and then the camera!!
...........but, to be serious, it sounds like a raw deal. your thread caused me to pull out my Intercept albums to check. they're only 4-5 months old, though, and everything seems normal. the reason i use the albums is to stabalize the coins i place in them in the hope that nothing further will happen to the surfaces of the coins. with my Jefferson's, i'm putting in toned MS coins as i find them and the deepest Cameo proofs as i find them. with the Ike dollars it's the same thing, toners and the deepest Cam's. with the SAE's i'm using the Intercept album to hopefully keep the coins blast white.
one thing you might consider is that the coins wer'e contaminated by something before they were placed in the album. in actuality, the albums and the material they are constructed from should only prevent harmful gas from reaching a coin enclosed by it. i would assume that a coin enclosed in the album with a harmful substance on it would progress as if it were outside of the folder. although it isn't a practice i've adopted yet, if this type of thing seems to be a problem it may be helpful to rinse a coin in acetone prior to inserting it in a folder. at least then you'd know any change was a result of the folder and not a prior contaminant already on the coin.
best of luck with the folks at Intercept Shield. please keep us informed and hold your cool when you talk with them. remember, you'll always catch more flies with sugar than you will with vinegar!!!
al h.
I have been curious as to the protection supposedly offered by these albums. Wasn't there a big "todo" regarding the intercept slabs when they first came out? Maybe the first albums also were less than advertised.
Seriously though, please keep us informed what the "company's" take on this is.
Were these coins in another album before you placed them in the intercept shield album ?
I love Ike dollars and all other dollar series !!!
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Sorry to hear about your quarters, but I wonder if they was some environmental things going on.
The problem I can readily see with these albums is they only nuetralize gases coming into the album from the outside environment. If the paper pages themselves are contaminated, the gas would have to travel over the coins and escape into the box before being nuetralized. That's the most likely explaination IMHO.
It's possible that the shields were somehow contaminated. I know the people that manufacture them may say that's impossible but having worked in a manufacturing environment make precision electronic components for 25 years I've seen on numerous occassions things that happen that were said to be impossible to happen.
I would definitely contact the manufacturer of the Intercept Shields and relay the story to them. They shoud be able to conduct (or have an outside lab conduct) a chemical analysis to determine what caused the toning on the affected set of coins.
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I'm always afraid of new products, especially those with big claims. It will be
interesting to see how this comes out.
Were the storage conditions poor? I do understand they were the same. Did
the silver coins also tarnish?
Good luck.
There is nothing like two layers of thick plastic. I agree with Cladking, I don't care how many Lucent technology people or NASA scientists tested this Intercept Shield, I'll take the two layers of thick plastic anyday!!
Know, I only have my coins in 2x2's IS, and not that actual album. So if I am reading this correct, you have your coins in the actual album, and not the 2x2's. Is this correct? Also, anyone here have any problems with just the 2x2's, and not the album?
Sorry to hear of this; I hope you get some measure of satisfaction, and please keep us informed with the details as you are able...
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unsatisfatory to you.
`Problems with our product? No way. It must be your storage techniques and the environment you stored them in`
Sorry to hear about the unwanted toning. On the bright side, someone around here may see this as `great`
and offer to purchase your `fugly` set....at a discount ofcourse. If that offer comes in, ask for a premium,not a discount.
Or you could always dip them in a weak dip so as not to strip much if any luster.
Good luck on whatever happens from here.
This is similar to the typical PCGS and NGC holders in that the sonic seal is quite tight and should do an excellent job of protecting a pristine coin that has been entombed inside. However, if a nice looking coin actually has crud (that is invisible to the naked eye) on it, then it can damage the coin and the holder will not help.
The IS holder has one advantage over the PCGS and NGC holders: it also helps to neutralize the air that is within the plastic chamber. However, this still cannot neutralize any foreign substance that is already on the coin.
Remember that dip residue is frequently very hard to detect until after it starts to haze the coin...
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There was another thread earlier this month concerning proper storage techniques for coins and it was suggested that intercept shields and boxes were a better way to go then the plastic pcgs or ngc boxes especially in the conditions of a safty depost box in the vault, so I bought one and switched my best slabbed coins to it from one of my blue plastic storage boxes, well, did I do the right thing ? Or should I switch them back ?
Les
I have all my slabbed coins in Intercept Shield boxes, and then they are in the 10-pack bigger IS boxes. The only coin that has turned is one that already had crud on the surface of the coin.
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TB
Just trying to play detective here so just tolerate my ramblings for an instant. Can you remember when you actually placed the coins in the intercept shield folders. Could anything come to mind such as you just ate bar-b-que ribs or painted your house or any other such activity prior to the actual insertion of the coins into the album? I'm thinking that there must be some sort of scientific explanation for the haze and toning. If the problem were to lie with the IS, all comparable coins in their albums would be showing the same symptoms. You may be one of the first to discover this anomilty but if the problem is with the product, there should be an avalanche of complaints on the horizon. IMHO
Gotta look at em once in a while.
There is also a line of white envelopes with flannel lining. Never had trouble with those.
Coins are chemically active items. Even gold to some extent.
Slabs should be best.
BUT........
It is hard for me to believe that the old MYLAR cardboard 2x2 holders (with FOUR staples) can be improved upon.
When done properly, the Mylar film really hugs those coins.
Putting them in a box makes them settle lower and leave air gaps.
But I have had no changes for YEARS with Mylar 2x2's and the 2x2's in ..... VINYL..... 20 pocket pages.
They lay flat and stay tight on the rims. Even when in close proximity to the vinyl pocket.
But they are in a safe at room temp and not mishandled.
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hehe, nope, no barbacue sauce on them I wash my hands before handling any collectible coin. In fact, because the holes are so tight, I used a ziplock baggie, turned inside out, as a glove to push them in. I literally don't even breath on them, turning my head away to exhale. That's how careful I've been with these coins, which makes the end result all the more disappointing.
hmmm that bit of information may be relavent to the symptoms your experiencing.
just a guess.
all I can think of is they got hazing from a combo of heat and moisture.
maybe the whitman holder handle these elements better?
just trying to help.
TB
<< <i> I used a ziplock baggie, turned inside out, as a glove to push them in
hmmm that bit of information may be relavent to the symptoms your experiencing.
just a guess. >>
Was the same baggie used for both sets? Could the baggie have been used and
hence contaminated?
Also, the printing is not registered very well, as the dates are not centered beneath the hole well on many albums, most notably, IHCs.
What I do like about them is the outer hard cover and color combination, it gives a high perceived quality, but overall, I doubt I would buy another.
As a side note, I noticed a similar problem with some proof cents in a new whitman album I have. In this case they toned a hazy, but vibrant, blue. Even more disturbing, when I rinsed them with acetone, they turned PURPLE. So whoever it was here that warned about acetone and copper: I stand corrected. You were right, I was wrong. They are somewhat attractive, though