Need guidance on 1909s-vdb's

detectorhead · June 11, 2003 3:26PM

Am in a quandry! Monday evening, found my second 1909-s vdb. (sound of cheering in background)
Which one would you hang on to and why? Apologize for the inadequate scans; but it is the best I can do.
Heads
Tails

Both are dug coins; vdb is weak on the worn one and strong on the corroded one with the green spots.

thepunkrockcoinguy · June 11, 2003 3:31PM

I would keep the right one because it looks in better condition. And then I would give the other one to me so that I can buy a lot of coins to help me in collecting since Im so young and new at it and all.

ANACONDA2 · June 11, 2003 3:31PM

The one on the right ,because the one on the left has very I repeat very unatractive green spots

sinin1 · June 11, 2003 3:56PM

I don't see the VDB on the coin on the right - is it real?

Did you find both of these with a metal detector?

Cam40 · June 11, 2003 4:08PM

I like the green-spotted one.
Send it to me. I,ll take it.

Deadhorse · June 11, 2003 4:58PM

The one on the left is the better coin, that is if you can get the crud off cleanly.

Dipping time...

Tootawl · June 11, 2003 10:14PM

Do you think that the one on the left would be the better coin after a trip to NCS?

LanLord · June 11, 2003 10:55PM

I agree with son of snake, I see no VDB on the one on the right. If indeed there is a VDB on that one, it's the keeper, it looks much nicer.

BTW, where the he11 are you digging up 1909s cents from anyway? I need to change my collecting habits.

dorkkarl · June 11, 2003 11:49PM

take the 1 w/ 2 heads.

K S

millennium · June 11, 2003 11:55PM

Keep both of them...One's a 1909 s VDB and the other is a 1909 S...

CoinWhiz · June 12, 2003 4:15AM

This is absurd....theres no way you could have found two 1909 s vdbs. The chances of finding one are so rediculously slim, but to find two is flat out impossible.

kamehameha00 · June 12, 2003 4:25AM

my cousins friend dug 3 in one hole one time all three in VG condition

kamehameha00 · June 12, 2003 4:25AM

oh yeah keep the second one

lordmarcovan · June 12, 2003 4:30AM

<< <i>This is absurd....theres no way you could have found two 1909 s vdbs. The chances of finding one are so rediculously slim, but to find two is flat out impossible. >>

Not as absurd as you might think, CW, and most certainly not impossible. As a detectorist myself, I can vouch for that. Although I certainly haven't found any S-VDB's, it's quite conceivable, if someone were to look in the right place. I'm on the wrong coast for that, though.

I would send both to NCS for conservation and then decide. Personally, I'm not so sure I'd sell either one. I never sell my detector-found coins, though I have sold some of the relics I've dug.

CoinWhiz · June 12, 2003 4:33AM

I suppose its possible.....but still....where in the world would you find somethin like that

lordmarcovan · June 12, 2003 4:37AM

On the West Coast, almost certainly.

kamehameha00 · June 12, 2003 4:37AM

any1 place that people hanged out around in the early 1900's it is very possible and has very many possibilities

kamehameha00 · June 12, 2003 4:43AM

<< <i>I agree with son of snake, I see no VDB on the one on the right. If indeed there is a VDB on that one, it's the keeper, it looks much nicer.

BTW, where the he11 are you digging up 1909s cents from anyway? I need to change my collecting habits. >>

Even though you can't see it from a picture dosen't meen its not there.One time I bought a 1909 cent from a store and I could just barley make out V.D.B. on the reverse.

lordmarcovan · June 12, 2003 4:48AM

About once ever year or two, somebody digs up a Chain cent (usually in the Northeast), and those are roughly 100 times scarcer than the S-VDB, so there you have it. There were almost a half a million 1909-S VDB cents produced. That's no small number. Lots were lost, and they were just a "pennies" to the person who lost them, at the time.

CoinWhiz · June 12, 2003 5:26AM

I live in the midwest(Wisconsin) and I dont think theres much of anything to find here

Plus, there arent many public areas for me to go, and people arent too happy when someone is digging up their property

kamehameha00 · June 12, 2003 5:33AM

dont be too sure theres not too much to find in Wisconson I remember reading in a article(cant rememeber name of magazine) about a man that found a mini hoard(10 pieces)of gold coinage ranging for the mid late 1800's to the early 1900's

SethChandler · June 12, 2003 7:14AM

Didn't some guy find several(5?) 1860-O dimes with a metal detector? And they all got graded between XF and AU?

au58 · June 12, 2003 7:23AM

This is no B.S.
About 10 years ago, a friend of mine got a detector for his birthday. His wife gave it to him. I was at his birthday party.
The first coin he found, in his own backyard, less than an hour after he opened the box, was an 1877 Indian Cent.
It has to be the ugliest '77 in existence, but the date is as bold as can be.
Unbelievable.

lordmarcovan · June 12, 2003 7:23AM

<< <i>I live in the midwest(Wisconsin) and I dont think theres much of anything to find here >>

Time for another reality check!

Here's a 3-Leg that came from Wisconsin... Read what else was found at the same site.

There are good coins to be found in all 50 states. There are not many areas where there aren't at least Seated coins in the ground somewhere.

detectorhead · June 12, 2003 1:00PM

Thanks for the input. The brown does have a visible V.D.B.; stands out if you tilt the coin a bit; doesn't show up well looking head on. Both were found in what was Queen City of the eastern Oregon gold fields. I've been detecting for more than 25 years and have had more than my share of good fortune. Two 1901-s dimes; a 1896-s quarter; a really beat up 1892-o half; two 1908-s Indian heads; numerous tokens; and this really abused double eagle.
Am riding a lucky streak right now; just dug up an AG 1863-s seated half and a 1909-vdb cent. Battered eagles

marcalan84 · June 12, 2003 1:18PM

Finally.....a thread that I have an answer to. Sell both of them....and take the proceeds from those two sales.....and buy a decent 09-S VDB. Yeah.....that's what I would do. Play the upgrade game as often as possible. Good luck. (The 2nd coin is nicer than the first one)

Flying56eagle · June 12, 2003 1:23PM

Well
I say the one on the right is a cast counterfit, If in fact you do see the VDB On the rev.
But Really hard to tell with out looking under a scope,
Good luck
And If one does turn out to be counterfit, Please let me know I would like to take pics of it or
Buy it

lordmarcovan · June 12, 2003 1:25PM

Wowee.

I've never dug a gold coin. A few rings, yes, but not a coin. Yet.

One site here on the island yielded a nice 1899 $10 for someone else. I found my first 1700's coins there (1776 and 1787 half reales). I just sold an EF-ish 1899-S $20 that somebody dug just north of here.

Sold my buddy's find recently, too.

Here's one I'll keep. A personal find of mine. It's 5.83 times rarer than a 1909-S VDB cent, wasn't really intended for circulation, and it's a big piece of silver (which is always harder to find, since big silver was harder to lose- people picked 'em back up off the ground). Nevertheless, I found it, and a fellow forum member was with me when I did (thanks to BlueCole, who was sharing one of his sites with me!)

detectorhead · June 12, 2003 1:44PM

lordmarcovan - nice coins. Have a bad case of East Coast envy. This part of the world wasn't settled until the last half of the 20th century - not much opportunity to find colonial and early American coinage. Oh well, will just have to make do with those pesty "s" mintmark coins.

Coin shooting is a hoot; wonder how many collectable coins have been rescued by metal detectors?

Need guidance on 1909s-vdb's

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