Slabs vs. Air Tites

shirohniichan

Which looks better?

This


or this?


BTW, the case will look better once I crack out a couple more coins and fill the gaps.

kieferscoins

#1 with the slabs.

Cameron Kiefer

WhiteTornado

I vote for the Air Tites.

shirohniichan

But do you really thin a collection looks better in slabs than in a wood presentation case?!

MadMonk

I have to say the airtites.

Clankeye

Love the case, Shiroh. Now would those puppies happen to be Philippines coins? Veeeery interesting. Give us a run down.

Carl

Kiefer: Come on lad, go easy on that slab kool-aid, it'll make you light-headed.

kieferscoins

Slabs loose or in a box, no. But slabs in an album with a binder I think it looks just as good. Having the same grading company helps also give uniformity.

Cameron Kiefer

satootoko

Couldn't you make a case to put slabs in?

EVillageProwler

Air-tites with that wooden box and velvet lining.

EVP

cacheman

Airtites!!! And the only better option is a mahogany coin cabinet which I intend to place my collection in. Although I agree that slabs protect the coins, the high liklihood that damage could occur during the slabbing process keeps me from submitting coins. Besides, coins are meant to be observed without the hinderance of the plastic tomb. Coins that stand on their own merit do not need someone else's opinion plastered on them. Nichol's

Steve27

Shiroh, where did you get that nice case from?

Clankeye

<< <i>uniformity. >>



Such a bland word. How about, celebrate diversity! Naaahhhh.... let's see... got it!-- elevate perversity!

All slabs makes Jack a dull boy.

Clankeye

kieferscoins

Celebrate diversity by collecting different slabs.

Cameron Kiefer

shirohniichan

Now would those puppies happen to be Philippines coins? Veeeery interesting. Give us a run down.

Yes, siree Bob... er, Carl, they are from the Philippines.

Here's what the boxed set includes so far:

1903 half centavo
1903 centavo
1903 five centavos
1944-S five centavos
1903 10 centavos
1944-D 10 centavos
1903 20 centavos
1944-D 20 centavos
1903 50 centavos
1921 50 centavos
1944-S 50 centavos
1903 peso
1907-S peso
1947-S peso

As soon as I crack out the 1936 commemorative pesos I'll plug two holes, and the last hole will be plugged with a 1930-35 reduced size five centavos.

Steve, I got the case from Air Tite Holders. It's their biggest model.

shirohniichan

Once I get the coins scanned, I'll add the Philippines set to my "Unregistered Sets" page. So far I only have my Canadian George V set up. Click on the dates to see scans of the coins.

Clankeye

Shiroh that is really cool. But, I don't want you to talk about Philippines coins on the forum anymore now, okay? They exist only for our pleasure. No one else must know.

Carl

shirohniichan

Sounds good. Don't let anyone know that tonelover sells them, OK?

Clankeye

I would never mention that Tonelover sells them. What? Am I nuts?
Okay.

shirohniichan

The most important thing is to not let anyone know that his site, http://www.philippinecoins.com/, is the place to go.

jom

<< <i>Which looks better? >>



LOL...funniest picture I've seen yet. Not even close....

Cameron: Get a clue.

jom

paigowjohnny

<< <i>Slabs loose or in a box, no. But slabs in an album with a binder I think it looks just as good. Having the same grading company helps also give uniformity. >>



PCGS shill


I really like air-tites for my raw Morgans. You can buy the album or display boxes like the one Shiro showed from the company or several air-tite dealers...likeJPscorner.com.

Airtite also makes nice display boxes for slabs

dorkkarl

i admire kieferscoins loyalty to his brand, but same-slabs or not, nothing compares to being able to look at the coins w/out the intrusion of plastic grades & other gobbledygook yelling up at you, drowning out the coins.

picture #2, & it ain't even a contest. that's the way it is in my collection too.

excellent presentation!

K S

shirohniichan

PCGS shill

Do you tink it's a coincidence that Cameron pulled his own name in the PCGS SAE drawing?

ah

Slabs are easier to handle in quanities although presentation is better in air-tight and carrier.

NumisEd

Shiro, very nice display.

As a peace offering to Cameron, I think that you should send him all of the remnants from your cracked slabs. That way he can continue to grow and improve his collection. Just make sure that you don't damage the label, as this is by far the most important part of the slab and what every slab collector seeks to obtain. It's kinda like the date on a coin to a real coin collector.

LucyBop

I'll take all my ms66 FBL's FRANKIES slabbed anyday!

Clankeye

Now don't take all this too much to heart, Cameron. Everybody is giving you a good natured slabbing--I mean ribbing.

Carl

shirohniichan

Mmmm... a whole slab of ribs....

jom

<< <i>I'll take all my ms66 FBL's FRANKIES slabbed anyday! >>



Well, I always kinda thought you were nuts....now I'm certain of it!

jom

paigowjohnny

<< <i>Mmmm... a whole slab of ribs.... >>



Truly...the best slab of all !!!

I want my baby back baby back......sigh...

kieferscoins

<< <i>Cameron: Get a clue. >>



Ok. I have a clue now.



<< <i>i admire kieferscoins loyalty to his brand, >>



I never said just PCGS. I said that it looks better with one type of slab. You guys should see my type set together all in PCGS slabs. Rather impressive I think. As for drawing my own name, I didn't cheat. Carol wouldn't let me have it, but I stayed a Good Guy and things turned to the better - I get to pick it up at the Long Beach show.

Cameron Kiefer

shirohniichan

Methinks he protesteth too much!

Twowood

I prefer the slabs. Twowood

kieferscoins

I agree Twowood. Why don't they get on your case? They get on mine becuase I am young and they think I will get burned. I know what I am doing. Just like the modern warnings. You don't have to warn me. BTW: I turn 21 in April and no longer will be a YN.

Cameron Kiefer

AbesNeighbor

Cameron,

I turned 21 a long time ago and I'm still a YN. :-)

paigowjohnny

I'm 43 and the YNs still know way more than me....

Still a PCGS shill

paigowjohnny

<< <i>Methinks he protesteth too much! >>



Does it make you want to puketh ???

jom

<< <i><< Methinks he protesteth too much! >> >>





<< <i><< Does it make you want to puketh ???>> >>



Seems Cameron can't take a jokeith.

jom

LucyBop

<< <i>BTW: I turn 21 in April and no longer will be a YN. >>



Be Bop A Lula!

shirohniichan

I agree Twowood. Why don't they get on your case?

We don't pick on twowood because he doesn't get riled so easily.

BlueCole

the wife and i say air tites.

B.

kieferscoins

Bluecole: What does the kid say? (in your picture).

Cameron Kiefer

leothelyon

Not long ago, 3-4 months I put three coins in the air-tites with the black ring and I've noticed the coins, brilliant MS65-67 1944-D and 1945-S Jefferson nickels has taken on a light brown toning. I have been able to easily remove the film from the coin with a toothpick and will eventually dip the coins to remove the rest but now I'm skeptical about using them as long term storage. Pics included below.
I had suspected the black rings from the beginning as they felt somewhat sticky and several times the ring would remained stuck to one side of the air-tite. Testing in such a manner by closing and reopening the round case to see if the ring would keep sticking. I don't understand it as I have yet to hear of longtime air-tite users if they have experienced simular problems. I haven't ruled out other possibilities. I don't know what to tell you. Although, at least, for that matter, I'm not going that route.
I would suggest the mylar safe-flips but I suspect there may be a problem with them as well. Why the flips get all scratchy looking from storing coins is beyond me unless the high-points on the coins are rubbing on the inside of the flip causing the wear and hopefully it's not on the coin itself.
I have hopes that a plastic company can make me some kind of inert acrylic direct fit holder but I have yet to take on that venture although I have come across two plastic companies that do custum work.
The professional slabs are the best bet for now as the coins don't show any apparent changes over the years. Another thing to take into consideration is, even though slabs are not perfectly air-tite sealed they do offer the closest thing to the perfect holder. And when you crack out a coin, it may get a fresh shot of whatever exists in the air where your located and so that coin may absorb a shock of some new elements that may cause a change to your coin. Knowing that the copper in our coins came from copper ore and because it’s continually reacting with the environment around it, over time the pure copper will change back into the copper ore it once was which may take 10,000 years but there is an immediate change that occurs in it first 50 to 70 years. The reason for carbon spots on coins.
Concerning slabs, they have a tendency to develope microscopic hairline scratches, especially the older slabs. PCGS and NGC, more so than the ANACS holder from what I’ve seen.
Same thing with the intercept shield 2x2's, let them rub together and they're ruined.
What are the other options for raw coins? Mylar window 2x2 cardboard coin holders but be sure to remove all cardboard fibers so they don’t end up on the coin. Thanks for letting me elaborate on the subject even though it may seem a little off topic.


Leo

paigowjohnny

I've had some of my Morgans in air tites for months and have seen no problems...

leothelyon

Hi
Are you using the H-type direct fit air-tite holder?

Leo

shirohniichan

I've had a number of coins in black ring Air Tites for over a year and haven't had any problems. Did you dip the coins or wash them in acetone right before putting them in the holders?

paigowjohnny

<< <i>Are you using the H-type direct fit air-tite holder? >>



Nope...black ring I type...

leothelyon

<< <i>I've had a number of coins in black ring Air Tites for over a year and haven't had any problems. Did you dip the coins or wash them in acetone right before putting them in the holders? >>



Hi
They came right out of the mylar 2x2 cb coin holders and into the airtites.

Leo

cacheman

My Darkside dealer refuses to use the black rings and anything I get from him are in air tites but with the white ring. Supposedly the white is a much more stable material than the black. I am beginning to think that I will opt for air-tites without the ring insert since most of the coins I collect have edge inscriptions and you can't see that attribute while housed in a ring. S

shirohniichan

Getting direct-fit Air Tite holders for most dark side coin sizes is impossible, though.

supercoin

You might try Kointains from E&T Kointainer... sort of "minimalist" enclosures. Two mylar clamshells that fit together, and a bunch of sizes. Maybe even darkside sizes. Good for seeing the edge of the coin too.