38-d Buffalo Rainbow - Real or AT? - Check it out

rwhite

Thanks for all of your comments of the 43-d in another thread. I thought I'd post this 38-d Buffalo (from the same collection as the 43-d) for your consideration. Thanks in advance!

Russ

This one looks like a tougher call than the Jefferson. My uneducated guess is I have no idea.

Russ, NCNE

Baley

now we're getting somwheres! an actual coin, and some opinions.

do i have to choose "real" or "AT"?

can i say that it looks to me to be probably somewhat artificial, but not completely blatantly fakebake?

what if i said, in my opinion that is a kind of attractive and interesting coin, but for me the wild color would not be worth much of a premium, if any, because I would personally prefer a coin which had been stored in a less reactive environment and looked a bit more "mint state"

i don't know if it was stored in the reactive environment for minutes, days, weeks, months, or years, but would guess several months to a couple of years, so it to me is a lot more
desireable than one that looks like it took a few seconds under a blowtorch, but not as desireable as one (again, holding the technical or numerical grade as s constant) that looked as if it
had a acquired more subtle color over several decades.
hows that?

Bear

Assuming for the moment that the color is real. The picture can be tweaked and the color scale

exagerated that will take mild and forgetable color and make it leap out of the screen at you.

If you dont pay too much of a premium and if there is a liberal return policy, then you wont

be too disapointed. I was almost burned in such a procedure and I pass the warning to you.

gsaguy

Ryan,

I readily profess that I'm no expert on Buffs (heck, I'm still trying to figure out Morgans), but my first reaction on that piece was that it looks too good to be true.

The majority of Buffs that I've seen have been a lot 'softer' on the colors.

MHO.

Thanks,

GSAGUY

P.S. Will I see you at LB?

rwhite

GSA-

Yeah, I'll be there Friday and Saturday.

See you there

Shocker

I see buffs with gold toning, but not wild rainbow colors. In other words, I still don't know squat about toning and I'm still trying to learn. I see the same colors on the reverse fields as well as the reverse details. Isn't that a sign of AT? Someone educate me here.

jom

Let's just say that GSAguy is on the right track here....

jom

truthteller

From the scan, this one looks a bit funny. I got to go with AT, sorry

TRUTH

ARCO

It does look very cool. The colors are too bright with no depth. looks AT to me.

Tyler

MacCoin

the gold is how a buff tone but I not so sure about the rest of the colors. but what the hey I like it. very pretty coin

clackamas

Real toning won't cross different levels of the design and stay the same. Its AT IMO.

caitlin

Hi rwhite
Looks AT to me.

Petescorner

I'm going to go against the grain a bit here and say REAL! While I agree with the other comments about how Buffs (especially the 38-D) tend to tone more of a solid gold, I still think the colors look soft and even enough to be genuine. If it is AT, then I think it's well done.

dorkkarl

the toning is not natural, but i like it, & i think plenty of others would to=. market-acceptable

K S

BigD5

I go along with the consensus on that coin. Probably AT, but really impossible to tell from the pic. I think Dorkkarl is on the right track, is it market acceptable? Maybe. The color doesn't seem all to unnatural, just not exactly "right". That isn't a bad thing I guess. My guess is this is a coin that may bag a few times if sent in for certification, but could probably get holdered too. Again, from the pic..........

MastaHanky

I'm going to TEMPORARILY play devil's advocate and say that it's real, with a photo that has been enhanced.

-Buffalos usually don't tone the same way silver does. Most of the coin is taken up by the design, so the toning tends to look different as it flows all over the design.
-Look at how the toning flows around the carbon spots as real toning tends to do

Why am I temporarily saying this? I want to go home and look at my own Buffalos (some of which have unusual looking toning like this). Then I'll feel a little more sure about my answer.