Other than Franklins, are there any business strike coin series that place a premium on bright white

FC57Coins

The Business Strike series of Franklins is the only series that I'm aware of that places a significant premium on bright white coins. Reasons for this include:

1. Franklins really do look beautiful in a bright fresh mint state
2. Some Franklins look downright deplorable when they tone
3. Some dates are extremely hard to find in pristine white state
4. Because the coin is so simply designed, sometimes significant marks can be hidden by toning.

Personally, my collection has both toned and untoned coins, but just about all of the really high end collections on the registry are made up of white coins.

I was just wondering if there were any other coin series (aside from proofs) where this is also the case?

Frank

rainbowroosie

I don't think the premium is on brilliant coins...1958-D halves with the colors sell for $1250 not brilliant ones???

FC57Coins

<< <i>I don't think the premium is on brilliant coins...1958-D halves with the colors sell for $1250 not brilliant ones??? >>



While true that colorfully toned coins from the 50's command a very high premium, I'm willing to wager that IF you find a white 1958D in MS66FBL, you'll see that premium double - there just aren't any out there!

Frank

Ronyahski

I can't think of any either Frank.

If anyone wants some proof of significant premiums being asked for common date Franklins, just go to R&I Coins website. Currently there is a 57P in 66FBL at $4500. and a 57D in 66FBL for $2200. The toned pieces are much less.

clw54

After people have found ways to tone them all--putting them on windowsills, etc.--there will be a demand for the untoned ones.

wondercoin

Ronyaski: I watched as the white coins in PCGS-MS66FBL sold for modest sums amidst far less than spirited bidding at FUN. Check out the prices realized at the B&M FUN sale for the Franklins (after most people in the room were finished bidding up Buffalos).

Incidently, Wash quarters and Roosie dimes fall into the same catagory. For example, I might pay upwards of $7500 for a blast white pre-1965 silver Roosie in PCGS-MS68 (please PM me when you get one in), where I would pay far less for a toned one. Even more interesting, I might pay upwards of 50x the going price for certain silver Wash quarters in PCGS-MS67 blast white.

Wondercoin

TomB

I agree that Franklins have a great following for blast white coins. I have also noticed that there are quite a few collectors who are looking to complete the silver Washington set with blast white coins, also. In my experience there are quite a few more collectors of blast white Washingtons than there are of toned Washingtons, however, the vocal minority (the toned Washington collectors) are what is noticed.

Dahlonega

Standing Liberty Quarters except for the very scarce magnificently toned specimens a blast white specimen is most desirable and carries a significant premium. [when original they can be incredibly beautiful]

FC57Coins

Thanks David, Tom, and Darryll and others - I hadn't thought of the SLQ or the Washington quarter sets as potentials in this area - can anyone think of any others?

Frank

DHeath

Sure.....Ike's.

FC57Coins

<< <i>Sure.....Ike's. >>




Wouldn't Braddick object to this one? Speaking of clads though, I've noticed that some of my clad quarters that I've been keeping in supposedly innert plastic holders have been starting to turn really neat shades of gold - anyone have this happen with theirs?

Frank

Ronyahski

WC- As a collector who loves Franklins and owns alot of them, I was disappointed to see the weakness in prices for Franklins, white and toned, at the FUN auctions. I'm not sure what to make of the Franklin market right now, it seems like a mixed bag. Seems like maybe the creme de la creme still command decent prices, but the overall market for them is weaker. Even better dates have generally gone down in price over the last year. Any thoughts?

Thanks for info, and to TomB, on Roosies and Washingtons, wasn't aware that similar pricing has developed with them.

Dahlonega - SLQ's? Are you saying premium white examples carry a premium over premium toned pieces? I haven't seen that, but don't follow them that closely. Would be interested in further clarification from you.

stujoe

<< <i> Speaking of clads though, I've noticed that some of my clad quarters that I've been keeping in supposedly innert plastic holders have been starting to turn really neat shades of gold - anyone have this happen with theirs? Frank >>



Not in plastic holders but some of the ones in my cardboard 2x2's are. Of course, I expect that.

Dahlonega

Pretty toned SLQ's are very scarce [beautiful] and carry the most premium but blast white specimens are much sought after and often bring more of a premium than the routinely toned specimen which frequently has black and peppery black areas which are unattractive to many people. My opinion of course.

FC57Coins

<< <i>the routinely toned specimen which frequently has black and peppery black areas which are unattractive to many people >>



Very true David - I hadn't really thought about that because I don't collect these - however, I have seen specimens with the kind of toning that you're referring to, and because it's a relatively small coin, it obscures much of the detail.

Frank