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This is the kind of creamy luster I die for. Guess the grade??

orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This is the creamy (frosty) luster on the Washington quarters that I absolutely adore.

These are the pics. I just bought this coin. In a PCGS slab. Guess the grade???

1936-S Quarter obverse


1936-S quarter reverse
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Wow, is that frosty looking! I'd guess at least MS66. mdwoods
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  • indianabyronindianabyron Posts: 1,023
    WOW did you knotice the die crack in the head right at the hair line ??

    Nice coin

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I'm a 66.

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    I love the coin. High-end 65. BTW - you're right about the luster. It looks like it was rolled in silver dust.
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Indianabyron: That die crack is from when little George erroneously let the Cherry tree hit his head on his birthday.

    By the way Happy 271st birthday George!!!!!!!!!!
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea how to grade a Washington, but I will say: Damn, that's nice! I didn't know they could look that good from the 30's.

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  • KlectorKidKlectorKid Posts: 3,723
    MS-66, the last 67 years have been good to it.
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ...you look at and buy your lustrous walkers of the 1940's the same way I look and buy the lustrous Washington quarters of the 1930's. At one time, these quarters were not hard to find but they have been put away over the years rarely to return to the marketplace.

    This is a special coin indeed.
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    MS65

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64, unless that's cleaning on the upper reverse.
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  • billiardmasterbilliardmaster Posts: 151 ✭
    I would guess MS64..........is it a DDO?
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will show the slab by 11:05 pm EST. Don't want to keep you all waiting.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    That quarter looks like it has its origonal skin. This is the bloom that is stripped of by

    dipping in the wrong solutions. To me it looks like it has never been messed with.

    Well done, beautiful quarter.
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  • AndroidAndroid Posts: 726 ✭
    It's a stunning MS64. there are too many ticks on the obverse for anything higher IMO. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it got a bump for eye appeal!

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Take a look at these smaller and non-supersized sized pictures of the obverse and reverse:



    Another obverse picture - non supersized

    Another reverse picture - non supersized
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok here goes.

    PCGS MS-65. In the green insert slab of the mid 1990's.

    PCGS MS-65

    Personally, I love this coin but admit I have not yet viewed it in person. I believe it to be a very strong MS-65 but not quite a MS-66.

    Why?

    #1 The reverse is weakly struck except in the very center as the tips of the wings practically disappear into the fields.
    #2 There is a luster braise/scrape on the eagle's leg which limits the grade. It is much more apparent and stands out primarily because the coin has such a thick and frosty "skin."
    #3 The obverse has some blemishes, indeed.
    #4 The die crack is a neutral factor in my view.

    Not withstanding all of the above, and regardless of whether this coin is a technical 64 or 65 it is a monster in my view for the original skin it does possess. This is my kind of quarter.

    I had to fend off some very spirited bidding for this quarter and had to pay top dollar for this quarter. I paid $395. I would pay that sum of money again in a heartbeat!
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will also state that today, all grading services except PCGS would probably slab this coin a 66.

    But this coin stays right where it is as it would be criminal to see this coin overmaxed out in a 66 holder.
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Personally, collectors are missing the boat on these quarters and should look for "silver dust" luster quarters like these and forget about the strike and be more accepting of some blemishes. You might find these late die state quarters in MS-63 or MS-64. They are still around. Expect to pay top dollar for the grade assigned if their skin look like the skin on this coin.
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Oreville, spoken like a true Washington lover.image Now, what did I win.image
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    D Heath unfortunately nothing. image

    By the way, some of our fellow posters probably have no idea how lucky we are to have MrEureka as a fellow poster. He is an esteemed numismatist in my book and knows patterns better than anyone else I know in the country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Welcome MrEureka! Boy you ARE tough on those quarters.

    I hope I am not embarrassing you.
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  • ms700ms700 Posts: 63 ✭


    << <i>I will also state that today, all grading services except PCGS would probably slab this coin a 66 >>



    Well, I don't believe that to be true for the past two years. I have seen an awful lot of PCGS (as well as NGC and all the others) 66 and even 67 graded early washie quarters that look a lot worse than your coin. That is a coin I would have bid on had I known about it. It is simply gorgeous. Sell it to me!!!

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any other comments?
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    That's a nice quarter and would get a * over at NGC
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