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PillarDollarCollector

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PillarDollarCollector

I live in Canada so shipping back and forth would be about say 70$ to 80$.

PillarDollarCollector

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PillarDollarCollector

I could send maybe 10-20 coins in per time.

Abuelo

IT depends on the coin.

PillarDollarCollector

@Abuelo said:
IT depends on the coin.

As mentioned most 1/2 Reales are 150$ or less. Some are just 20$ to 50$ raw. I guess I will give them a call and ask. I would send 1 package in per year maybe 2.

MasonG

Go to their website. Prices are listed there.

PillarDollarCollector

I am going to take a look now. Thanks.

PillarDollarCollector

Seems expensive at 35$ US per coin add 30% more since I am from Canada. May be worth it for rare coins I can only find raw or very cheap.

WCC

I find it hard to believe that there are many decent (quality wise) coins of this type left in Mexico to buy.

PillarDollarCollector

You may know better than me. I have only been at it for 6-7 months. I am guessing rare or early dates 1733 to say 1749 may be easier to locate raw. I am not looking at high grades just want to build the set minus of course unique coins if any. I may have to do it with the Royal's and some others buy them raw send them in. I will see.

PillarDollarCollector

Or may just buy 25-50 of these holders and call it a day forget about NGC altogether for raw coins.

PillarDollarCollector

Much cheaper and less headaches.

Abuelo

I have, over years, certified a couple of half reales. But I would not pay for 90% of the raw coins I have seen. That is why I say it depends.on the coin.

PillarDollarCollector

Yeah it's for coins I can't locate graded I will give it a few years and see what coins are missing and during that time look for rare raw 1/2 Reales that NGC has graded very few of/ and buy those if the price is right and the coin looks OK. Like I said it's not grade for me it's owning the most complete set I can get.

ELuis

I have done this but with sets of 5 and more coins up to 25.

To give an idea:

For a World submission:
One coin
100 declared value
Ship method USPS
Economy $22
Upgrade to scratch resistant holder $5
Handling fee $10
Shipping fees $26

1 x 22+5 = $27 + $10 + $26 = Total $63

So, around $60 for a single coin.

So, if you sent 5 coins same value, it will be $171 / 5 = $34.2 per coin, and so on.

You can go up for early bird, express, but gets more expensive.

HTH

PillarDollarCollector

I may send in rarer coins and just pass along doubles to my young nieces. She will be happy with any grade same as me. This is not going to be a #1 set grade wise I can't afford that.

EVillageProwler

@KingOfMorganDollar,

You can always buy PVC-free plastic flips and write your own tickets — like an old time numismatist.

EVP

PillarDollarCollector

@EVillageProwler said:
@KingOfMorganDollar,

You can always buy PVC-free plastic flips and write your own tickets — like an old time numismatist.

EVP

Are BCW PVC free?

WCC

@KingOfMorganDollar said:
You may know better than me. I have only been at it for 6-7 months. I am guessing rare or early dates 1733 to say 1749 may be easier to locate raw. I am not looking at high grades just want to build the set minus of course unique coins if any. I may have to do it with the Royal's and some others buy them raw send them in. I will see.

It's an inference on my part, not fact. Someone else here may know but I have never seen mintage data for these series. Gilboy has a table by value, in duros or 8R equivalents. I'd have to check the Yonaka reference on portrait coinage but I think he stated the same thing.

World Numismatics (previously Mexican Coin Company) once included mintage data for Ferdinand VI and Charles III in one of their website articles. I saved it on a computer (currently in storage) but it wasn't on their website last I checked.

As one example, the 1751 1/2R is the most common in the TPG data, with about 30 MS. They claimed somewhere around 2.2MM. If "ballpark" accurate, it should be relatively common (more common than the TPG data indicates) but the survival rates are presumably very low.

If you have not noticed it yet, my experience is that where there is supply, it's concentrated in the higher end and lower end (much more obviously) but there is little in between. What I have described here is also the pattern for the other mints except that the mintages were lower or much lower and I believe the survival rates are likely lower also.

For the remaining supply, it's my observation and assumption that whatever it may be now, most of it is probably in either the US or Spain, not where it was struck.

PillarDollarCollector

It's harder with the 1/2 Reales since less incentive to have them graded due to lower value for most. But I am thinking there can't be many of the 1732-1821 series laying around. But I could be wrong.

PillarDollarCollector

And for anything pre 1732 I just go with they must be rare or even rarer.

WCC

@KingOfMorganDollar said:
It's harder with the 1/2 Reales since less incentive to have them graded due to lower value for most. But I am thinking there can't be many of the 1732-1821 series laying around. But I could be wrong.

Lower value definitely constricts supply available for sale and the actual supply is probably a lot more than is apparent, but not absolutely in the quality most collectors are likely to accept.

Yonaka's survey is as good an indication as any of the relative scarcity (usually) but unfortunately did not include an indication of the quality distribution. I suggested he include this in a future update and hopefully he will.

WCC

@KingOfMorganDollar said:
And for anything pre 1732 I just go with they must be rare or even rarer.

I would think so. Lower or much lower mintages with more time for attrition. All other factors essentially the same.