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Hypothetical question : Would you dip a silver coin graded UNC details artificial toning.

bidaskbidask Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

Lets say it is a silver dollar size coin.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on what it looks like. I’ve seen quite a few that were labeled artificial and then received a straight grade.

    There are also some where the color is artificial but it still looks decent. If you dip one of those, it likely will look worse.

    Now if it’s a sure thing AT coin that looks ugly, then you might as well give it a try.

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe
    How deep is the toning?
    Slightly toned yes, dip that coin!

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The information provided is insufficient.

    Why might the coin have been AT’d? To make it look pretty or to cover up flaws? Can you see through it to the surface of the coin? I’ve heard of quite a few positive surprises, as well as negative ones, when people have dipped AT coins.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:
    Depends on what it looks like. I’ve seen quite a few that were labeled artificial and then received a straight grade.

    There are also some where the color is artificial but it still looks decent. If you dip one of those, it likely will look worse.

    Now if it’s a sure thing AT coin that looks ugly, then you might as well give it a try.

    It is> @MFeld said:

    The information provided is insufficient.

    Why might the coin have been AT’d? To make it look pretty or to cover up flaws? Can you see through it to the surface of the coin? I’ve heard of quite a few positive surprises, as well as negative ones, when people have dipped AT coins.

    Yes you can see through to the surfaces and they are reflective. Not sure why someone would AT a coin like that.

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Be prepared to find hairlines

    Collector, occasional seller

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dip every toned coin. Artificial or not.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does it look like? Do you agree with the QC/AT designation? Is there any luster underneath the AT? Do we have any clues as to method used (e.g. chemical and type if known versus physical like heat)?

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Be prepared to find hairlines

    And/or cleaning.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    bidaskbidask Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    What does it look like? Do you agree with the QC/AT designation? Is there any luster underneath the AT? Do we have any clues as to method used (e.g. chemical and type if known versus physical like heat)?

    No clues as to AT method.

    Yes the coin has plenty of luster and surfaces are nicely reflective....
    With a glass I can see some hairlines.

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    @cameonut2011 said:
    What does it look like? Do you agree with the QC/AT designation? Is there any luster underneath the AT? Do we have any clues as to method used (e.g. chemical and type if known versus physical like heat)?

    No clues as to AT method.

    Yes the coin has plenty of luster and surfaces are nicely reflective....
    With a glass I can see some hairlines.

    I'd first try acetone. If that doesn't work try MS70. If that fails, I'd do a small test area with dip before dipping the whole coin.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2019 11:37PM

    @bidask said:
    Hypothetical question : Would you dip a silver coin graded UNC details artificial toning.

    One issue with this question is that coins are not graded "artificial toning", they are graded "questionable color". There have been numerous examples of coins that were graded "questionable color" at one time that eventually made it into straight graded holders so this is one designation that isn't considered permanent.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on the coin. I might dip it or let one of the conservation services do it depending on the coin's value. Can we get a pic of the coin and slab?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said.."Not sure why someone would AT a coin like that."...A couple of reasons, to hide something or for profit....the second being a frequent reason.....Tarnish sells, often for big premiums.... that motivates the con artists. Cheers, RickO

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When it comes to artificial toning, absolutely I'd dip it.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,601 ✭✭✭✭✭

    depends on whats underneath as feld stated

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jdimmick said:
    depends on whats underneath as feld stated

    You won't know until after you dip it. As Clint Eastwood said---"Do you feel luck, punk?" :o

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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