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Most under valued Doubled Die Error coin.
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Just trying to see from different coin collectors, in your opinion what is the most under valued DD Error coin that could be worth big $$$ in the future!
AU55/MS62 My favorites.
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Note: It is doubleD die
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Errors are a niche market in the hobby. Has some sort of album or registry or something been established?
Probably Fred Weinberg would be best in answering this question.
I vote for the 1955 DDO Lincoln cent. I can't think of a more dramatic doubled die coin that's ever been produced by any mint either US or world mint.
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The well known ones that don't need a magnifying glass to be seen are all fully priced. The ones that need a magnifying glass to be seen are fad items that have no potential since they are "cherrypicker" material ... and cherrypickers don't pay premiums, they "cherrypick".
I believe the doubled die coins of note, are already fully valued (the market can always rise as specimens become less available). Perhaps a new one will appear.... Cheers, RickO
Undervalued? 2005 DDO FS101 Bison Nickel
The list price is Very low on these for a coin that appears so rarely.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
I'm not familiar with this variety. Is the doubling visible with the naked eye?
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It is not extreme no, but if familiar with this series it is noticeable with the eye only
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Good question. I would say your really not going to find a DDO that is going up in value in the future when the reality is MANY should be going down as population numbers increase. Now for cents those that have a history of holding there value - there are only 2 that stand out - the 1955 DDO and the 1969 S - albeit I still do not understand what warrants the ridiculous value of a 1969 S DDO when compared to many others. Its really a mind field - values vs demand vs # of coins vs who wants them.
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An outstanding example of an unimportant doubled die is a series that few care about. If you can find a cash buyer for such an item ... SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!!! ....but don't buy, buy, buy.
I don't do Die Varieties, as a rule, so I'm not the person to comment.
However, I'd say, in general, that all known doubled dies are priced
for the current market - no 'sleepers, imo - and also, most new
Doubled Dies just aren't impressive -
Although I'm sure the Doubled Die specialists will name a few since,
I believe the most recent, dramatic DD is on the 2009 District of Columbia
Reverse.
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I recall a speech given by Fred Weinberg about the dawn of the error coin market. A collection he bought for $60k in the seventies now worth multi millions.
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Will the 1955 or 1972 DDO triple in price? Maybe not, but what about the 1936?
I could give you a VAM as rare as the vaunted 8TF 14's
Peace Dollars is the series I Would focus on long term from a collecting and rare VAM/variety standpoint. Cheap and wide open for a cherrypicker.
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yspsales - you're talking about the (Conway) Bolt Collection
of major mint errors - about 500 pcs. of major mechanical
mint errors from 1795 to 1955.
Oh....to dream about having that collection of major type
coin errors as my inventory today !
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I will pay up for several of the Roosie DDO's & DDR's.
Here's one that's stronger-
And here is a domestic one that has a wider spread. But the appearance isn't as dramatic because it's a Class V doubled die, with only a part of the coin doubled. The 1955 is a Class I, where every perhipheral element is strongly doubled.
Two other US coins come to mind that have an equal or stronger spread than the '55 cent-the 1872 DDR dime, which is rotated 160 degrees but has a very incomplete first hubbing, and the 1942-D DDO 001 25c.
As far as undervalued, I'd say the 1919 dime is a contender.
I'm not a Jefferson collector but I am a big fan of the 1939 DDR.
It's dramatic enough to easily see with the naked eye.
I've never priced them in Unc but I know that they're super affordable in circulated grades. I have VF30 that looks cool.
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I'll guess the 1917 cent.
I think the 1970-s ddo cent is just as rare as the 1969-s, and the doubling is nearly as strong. Probably purchased for 1/5 the price (of you can find one)
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This thread may have been well-intentioned but it started out with strikes against it.
As others have said, it is "doubled" die, not "double" die, and DDs are technically die varieties, not errors.
I suggest that more research and knowledge are needed before anyone tries to play the market. Sounds a bit like an effort to get rich quick (or even slowly) by taking shortcuts.
The best values in DDs are ones you find yourself by roll searching - those cost only face value.
"The best values in DDs are ones you find yourself by roll searching - those cost only face value."
Or otherwise cherrypicked.
nice example of the 1939 ddr sparky, I like
95-D 1C DDO
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/999406/heres-one-you-dont-see-often-1995-d-1c-ddo#latest
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My vote is:
I feel like it should be worth 10x or 100x more!! who wants to buy it for a quick million?
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I'm not an expert, but in my opinion, if it can't be seen without a magnifying glass, it will probably be nothing too special in the future. I've personally been trying to find a cool DDO for my little collection, and I won't buy anything that can't be see with the naked eye - mostly focusing on a 1972 cent.
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1919 Mercury dime that was discovered a couple of years ago has the most potential for location of new specimens, and value increase. 1969 cent might also fit....?
1934 Peace dollar doubled die obverse (both reverses) is possibly the most under appreciated.
I do like the 34-D $1 DDO that Roger pointed out. Very strong spread on that one. I will comment though that it seems the medium D(I like to call it the blob D) variety is quite common and can be found unattributed with relative ease. The small D on the other hand, I'd like to find. I've only seen one offered at a show before.
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Without a doubt, the doubling is dramatic BUT the coin is definitely NOT undervalued.
I'm still smarting over the money I paid for mine which then immediately took a down turn. If anything at all, the coin is highly collectible but be very cautious in the amounts you pay.
Having said that, My choice for an "Undervalued" doubled Die would be the 1971-S FS-801 IKE Proof Dollar.
The doubling is very dramatic and eye recognizeable yet, since it is an IKE Dollar, it just does not get the attention it deserves.
My initial thoughts are that the doubling is very much similar to the 1961 DDR Franklin Half which carries a much higher premium.
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Yes-the '34-D is a super naked eye doubled die but the medium "D" is quite common, as you say. I cherried TWO small "D" in AU at the PAN show over 20 years ago and not another since. I wish I would have kept one but I sold them both about 20 minutes after I cherried them.
I agree with Roger about the '69-S cent-I think it's undervalued even at current levels. And the '71-S DDR Ike is yet another one. I've been looking for that one for years with no luck. It's every bit as nice (maybe better) than the '61 half.
Doubled Dies are not errors. The 1955 DD Cent was knowingly released into circulation by the mint.
Knowingly releasing them doesnt mean they purposely created them.
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The 69 S DDO is quite visible to the naked eye
The 70 S is visible mostly in LIBERTY
My fav, maybe cuz I found one in circulation a few decades ago.
I'm dispersing a hoard of 1971 DDO-001, 1972 DDO-002, 1972 DDO-003, 1972 DDO-005, 1972 DDO-007, 1972 DDO-008, and 1973 DDO-001 Lincoln cents, and I've been dispersing these (ANACS graded) on eBay since 2015.
Here's what I'm seeing (this is not financial/investment advice):
I've been seeing increasing hammer prices on all of the 1972's, especially DDO-002 and DDO-008. Also, the 1973 DDO-001 is an underrated sleeper as well, and values were going up when we sold our last few early last year.
The 1971 DDO's are bringing good money also, and the longer we wait between sales, the better the hammer prices.