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Care to GTG on a generic Saint? - grade posted

ProfLizProfLiz Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 9, 2018 9:47AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I’ve been slowly assembling a US gold type set - sort of like the PCGS circulation strikes set, but nothing before 1834 and none of the pricey 1907’s. I’ve been stuck on the 1908 No Motto Saint for a while. It should be an easy year - a generic widget! - but I haven’t been able to find one clean and pleasant enough to match the rest of my set. When this one came up, I jumped on it.

I know these are hard to grade from photos - and it might add a bit of challenge to evaluate a 1908NM that I’m fairly confident is not from the Wells Fargo hoard. Care to guess the grade?

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 9:07AM

    Looks AU 58 but I'm not good with gold.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) I am glad you jumped on it when you thought she is the right one.
    I think she is MS65 <3 because of clean field, full fingers and nice nose and observe is very good too except the 'copper stain'?

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 63

  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64

  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Paradisefound on the surfaces but for a 65 you need to see luster. That image has hints of it.

  • BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 here too.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,013 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Appears to be 63+, congrats!

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm at 64.

  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭✭

    64 as well

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll take a stab at AU58 or MS62 as I'm not seeing it as the others.

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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it as a 64

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ms64 really.

    Common date ms65+

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2018 4:50PM

    There are actually 3 types of 1908 Saint-Gaudens double eagles, not two.

    Type 1 - 1907 obv & rev hubs with date change. (short rays, fuzzy stars)
    Type 2 - New 1908 obv hub with 1907 rev. (long rays, sharp stars)
    Type 3 - New 1908 obv with new, motto, 1908 rev.

    Your coin is a very nice Type 2, I suspect it is AU, but would grade MS-62 or 63. But a "grade" does not matter -- it's just a great type coin. Now the challenge -- find a $5 Pratt gold of comparable quality.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65 very nice!

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see it as an MS63, limited not by hits but by subdued luster. Overall, a nice looking coin.

  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭✭

    63 +

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    High point rub+nice clean fields=AU63+

    I think it could be in a 58 holder.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 shot 64

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My heart says MS but my eyes say AU. Peace Roy

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  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned...Sorry

  • ProfLizProfLiz Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all for your comments. Perhaps I should have mentioned that my type set is an Everyman ;-)

    I think cameonut captured it best as a 58 shot 64. It has satiny, intense luster in hand, and minimal marks that in an MS coin would give it a shot at 65. But just a bit of shine on the knee and eagle's breast...

    BTW, it's in a doily holder with a green CAC sticker - so CAC agrees it's AU, too.

  • ProfLizProfLiz Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭

    BTW, one of the challenges for this coin was that my type set is all CAC-approved. But no one who gets back a 1908 No Motto in AU-58 bothers to send it to CAC. There's no real premium, with MS examples so plentiful. I was getting resigned to making one myself, when I found this one. I think the doily holder is what made it worthwhile to sticker.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well... I would have thought 64, but late to the game....Nice looking coin.... I would be proud to have that one.... Cheers, RickO

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There must be some faint circulation marks in the fields that are not showing up in the image. Sure looks MS and nice!

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late to the game... my first impression was 63... but I questioned "rub"... nice coin in any case...

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