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Greysheet question....Again

Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

If you look at the new greysheet under Modern American Silver Eagles it has 3 color columns one is the "bid" for greysheet or raw coins the other two are bluesheet bids one for ngc and one for pcgs in ms 69 and ms 70...

If you look at the greysheet colum the prices in "MS70" are 5 figures for some dates. These are raw coins

How can this be? Who would buy a raw American Silver Eagle in "MS70" for those prices?

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not Me :smiley:

    Steve

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you find this individual, I have some for sale.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elemint said:
    Raw UNC's are usually valued at MS60. Same with UNC detailed coins.

    ???

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In general, greysheet bid is simply sight seen coin deals. Bluesheet is sight unseen. That is why Greysheet bid is usually higher than bluesheet because it means the buyer has seen it and concurs with the grade.

    It is not raw vs. slabbed as they are "sight seen" versus "sight unseen". See page 3 of Greysheet.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where do the MS70s prices come from?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebigeng said:
    Where do the MS70s prices come from?

    From MS70 coin sales. AGain, these are NOT raw coins, they are sight-seen coins.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks I understand that, who paid almost 20 K figures for a MS70 1990 ASE?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebigeng said:
    Thanks I understand that, who paid almost 20 K figures for a MS70 1990 ASE?

    Heritage sold one this year for 13,200. Maybe the buyer of that one is now asking 20.

    No one ever said the greysheet was 100% right. That's especially true of scarcer coins.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 8, 2018 3:56PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @thebigeng said:
    Where do the MS70s prices come from?

    From MS70 coin sales. AGain, these are NOT raw coins, they are sight-seen coins.

    The Grey Sheet prices can also be for raw coins that are properly graded but they are definitely for sight seen coins.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @thebigeng said:
    Where do the MS70s prices come from?

    From MS70 coin sales. AGain, these are NOT raw coins, they are sight-seen coins.

    The Grey Sheet prices can also be for raw coins that are properly graded but they are definitely for sight seen coins.

    Yes, of course.

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