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Thread Title The Official Anything "T-206 Thread"


Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 7:32 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

This set; endearingly called "The Monster", "The Holy Grail", and "The Set of All Sets", is the foundation of our hobby.

I thought I would share with the Board members how I got here and encourage those of you, out there, who admire the set from afar but see it as unrealistic to ever consider collecting it. I hope to show you it's possible to dive in and enjoy it.

The Digression - I am a child of the late 60's. My baseball card collecting beginnings trace themselves to a start in 1968 with that years Topps issue. It was in 1969 that I really got serious about my collection, dumping a large portion of my paper route money into packs that contained those cards that I loved so much. Baseball and baseball cards were everything to me then.

Fast forward to the late 1990's. With the advent of eBay and the PSA Registry my interest in Baseball cards was rekindled and I set out over the next 6 years to assemble and complete a PSA 1969 Topps set to relive the childhood experience. I've heard the same story told countless times by other hobbyists and here on these Boards as well.

In 2004, after I completed the set I felt a driving need to explore all the sets the hobby had to offer; I'd even done a little bit of this during the 69' quest . I started, accumulated and enjoyed partial set efforts in many different era's including the 80's (84' Donruss), the 70's (77' Topps), the 60's (66' Topps), the 50's (52', 53', 54', 55', 56' Topps), the 40's (48' Bowman), the 30's (33,34 Goudey; 34-36 Diamond Stars), the 20's (I have completed the 1921 Exhibit set; all graded and still own it) the 10's (E90-1, T-206). Each of these brief but exhilirating forays taught me even more about baseball history, the players of each era, and every nuance about each era's great sets. It's been a really cool ride!

Back to T-206.

I always thought it would be just glorious to at least own a few of these cards. My card budget was almost exclusively tied up in my 69's but I still managed to pick up a few "inexpensive" commons and put them aside in my collection during this period. Little did I know that the card journey through the decades would lead me here.
When I sold off the 69's to raise that collectors cash, I was unfocused. You might say that if you look in the dictionary under "Baseball card collector" you will find the meaning; unfocused. Unfocused just means we are buying what we like; and having fun doing it. You can tell yourself that that is ok now.
But as I dissolved partial set after partial set I realized that I was still picking up the occasional T-206 and enjoying it more and more.

Then there came a moment when I realized that owning T-206 cards was magical. There was something inherently "really important and really historic" in the fun I was having with it. When I got my first classic HOF'er from the set; a Dark Cap Christy Mathewson, it literally raised goose bumps on my arm when I got it in my hands for the first time. I couldn't believe I owned this card, and held in my hand this chalice of cardboard history. I was hooked. I've gotten this feeling quite a few more times over again with acquisitions of players like Cobb, McGraw, Evers, Chance and the like.

Why the Thread? There are places like N54 on the web that discuss this set on a continual basis. I am in love with that chatter because I love the set. I consider myself as the average collector. Limited budget, limited time, limited aspirations. But I dream all the same just like the rest of you guys.
I know there are a few of you who visit these Boards regularly who either modestly dabble in this set or dream that "if they could only afford to do it" they would. I am here to tell you it is possible.

In many ways the PSA Registry has driven folks to achieve. Places in a standing, higher GPA's, to buy the finest examples and on and on. With card product from the 60's, 70's, 80's and beyond it is possible to do this and not have the expenditures get totally insane. Most of us are children of this era and we are drawn there.

T-206 transcends this. We all know it's there, always.
We don't collect it because we see those numbers in the SMR and say; "I can't afford that" or "why even bother getting started".
I say, "You can afford it" and "you can get started".
The only way it works is to throw out your old preconceived notions of what is an acceptable quality card. Many low grade examples of older cards retain incredible and almost ethereal eye appeal. They are time machines.

With T-206 it almost seems like the creased card with rounded corners is the natural state. There are high grade examples (albeit unaffordable) but those suckers almost don't even look real! The key for you, the collector, is to embrace this. There are hundreds/thousands of examples of each card from this set that are lower grade but still retain amazing eye appeal. One has to practice the art of acceptance of low grade.
Creases can be strategic or non-strategic. (Through the face of a subject or on the corner or a low or high horizontal). This makes a big difference in eye appeal. Shoot for the non-strategic. (Check out the Green backround Cobb in my set for a PSA 1 example of non-strategic creasing. The cards eye appeal is untainted).

Throw out the preconception that sharp corners are a staple indicator of a nice card. Don't even look at the corners; look at the image.

Often times a tiny spot of paper loss (in the white border, or on the reverse) might drop a card way down in grade; yet the image is flawless.

There are all types of flaws and wear issues that affect lower grade cards that don't necessarily impinge on the cards ability to present in a positive way.
This is especially true of graded cards. Grading Companies are forced to mark a card way down for some of these technical flaws.

Once you get used to this, and drill down to truly enjoying the image, most of the battle has already been won.


So now all of a sudden; you no longer have to depend on paying PSA 4 or higher SMR level prices that you previously felt restricted you from ever giving the set any serious consideration. When you find PSA 1,2,3 examples that look nice "to you" then you are on your way. Get some of these in your hands and see how it transforms you. You can forge ahead and pay reasonable coin at this level (similar to what you pay for high grade 60's, 70's stuff for example) to make real progress and lay a foundation to optimistically move, at least, in the direction of completion.
Keep in mind that the definition of completion and it's timeframe should be softened in your mind. Don't let yourself linger on that or give any thought to what the final dollar value is you need to complete. It will stop you cold in your tracks.
Enjoy the journey, do it for the journey.
A partial T-206 effort is such a monumental and significant achievement that you will feel a wave of euphoria each time you break through that next round number of Completion Percentage. (I'm at almost 40% complete today and honestly have to pinch myself when I think about the enormity of that). This has all been the result of just chipping away, a card at a time with no particular time frame in mind; just the journey.

For all of you guys who are Excel nuts, checklist nuts, variation nuts, back combination nuts, HOF collectors, Team collectors or just guys looking for the most satisfying set building challenge of their lives this set is, and can be, for you.
PSA is a great way to go as well.
Traditonalists will tell you that raw is the only way to go, but if you currently enjoy the Registry and its display and checklist capabilities, and you want to know your cards are "to size" and "authentic", low grade PSA is for you.
I personally love the Registry for its display capabilities. I can visit my cards anytime on line, and others cards as well.
I have met a few other great low grade T206 collectors through the Registry too. We're out there; come join us.

There are a couple of amazing resources that will point you in the right direction. Lew Lipsett wrote the first definitive coverage of the T-206 set in his "Encyclopedia...". There is a recent exhaustive research effort compiled by a long time collector, admirer and follower of the set; Scot Reader. His manuscript is incredible. It has been profiled and excerpted in the SCD over the last few months.
The T206Museum.com is a great starter source for checklisting and backs info.

Lastly, (I know, you are saying, thank god, take a breath Ray...), I thought I would start this thread for anyone who wants to talk about or share ideas about the set. Like I said, serious and important chat about the set goes on elsewhere (N54 for example) as well, but maybe you happen to feel comfortable right here. Keep in mind that there are no dumb questions. There is so much to know and explore with this set that, as a new participant, one generates a gangload of questions real fast.
Scans are always good too! Let's keep this thread lively and alive!

Here's a link to my PSA Registered Set in progress. I hope to be working it for the rest of my collecting life.


Dings, Divots, Creases and Stains - My Beloved T-206's

Thanks to anyone out there who ever encouraged me in this effort.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!

 09/06/2006 07:42:35|U



Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 11:10 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

The Cobb - Demonstrating nice eye appeal with non-strategic creases.



RayB

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Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 11:13 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Try again.




RayB


Hmmmm. The link is there anyhoot.

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 09/06/2006 11:18:56|U



Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 12:05 PM
Posted By: tkd7 (Collector)

RayB-
Great story and a great looking card. I agree, you are one to be proud of that card.



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Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 12:33 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Thanks TKD.

Keep in mind that the T-206 set is not about the Cobb per say.
It was 2 years before I owned this card and I made the real start on this set foraging for low grade commons with nice eye appeal.
Some of the lithographic art work and colors are just spectacular even in low grade.

Dig into my set and look at Cassidy or Owens or Rucker or Niles; all great examples of low grade with stunning color and marvelous appeal.
Anybody that wants to discuss this set outside the lines; PM or email me anytime.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 12:58 PM
Posted By: paleocards (Veteran)

Ray,

I don't collect T206s, nor do I anticipate ever doing so (collecting all Topps HOFers from 1955-1975 will keep me busy at least for this lifetime...), but I just want to say how much I admire your passion and eloquence in discussing your chosen pursuit. These are the kind of threads that make this site worth visiting and I hope that yours enjoys a long and often-read run.

Andy



Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 5:47 PM
Posted By: RipublicaninMass (Choose Your Title)

I chose the t205's becasue I liked the borders, and no wagner! I have a love of the t 206's as well. A set that really defines our hobby.

a Dark Cap Christy Mathewson, it literally raised goose bumps on my arm when I got it in my hands for the first time. I couldn't believe I owned this card, and held in my hand this chalice of cardboard history.

That gave me goose bumps reading it. I have no big names yet of the 205's but I get excited seeing lower graded ones on ebay! Great post~



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Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 7:50 PM
Posted By: tkd7 (Collector)



<<

Keep in mind that the T-206 set is not about the Cobb per say.

RayB
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I have nine T-206 cards in my collection. For me, it is a chance to look at each card as if it were a painting hanging over a fireplace. A portrait of a player that has long since left the world, some famous, most forgotten. Likely it is the only chance we have to see these players in color. But more importantly, each player is a reason to dig deeper into the game we love. I think that is where the size of the set brings its beauty.



Date Posted: Sep/06/2006 8:21 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I totally agree, Ray. (Well, besides the fact that I've largely soured on PSA and the Registry.) It's a fantastic set to collect, since there are so many ways to do it. I hope to assemble a Big 3-less set over the course of my collecting days, but I also like going for St. Louis front-back combos and some of my favorite backs. And, like you said, the nice thing is that even in lower grades, T206's can still be breathtakingly beautiful.



yawie's T206's

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Date Posted: Sep/07/2006 8:08 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Hi Ray, You are not alone in your passion or your collecting habits. I too have the same collecting woes, limited budget and time. But i find the time to search for the elusive low grade high eye appeal T206's. I started in June 2005 and have narrowed my collecting habits to a select few. My main search is T206's. They are in my opinion the set of all sets. Unfortunately for all of us collectors, we are not the only people that think that way. Competition for the cards is high and prices have never been higher. That in itself is a double edge sword. My collection value has increased but the cards I lack have also increased. I have collected 127 so far and have no unrealistic goals in completing it any time soon. The thrill is in the hunt. Joe

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Date Posted: Sep/07/2006 6:30 PM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

I just recently started selling T206's and I have to agree, very nice set. I knew almost nothing about them up to this point so I started researching them a litle bit. I was surprised on how big that set is and how many variations there are. My favorite are the portrait ones. They do look like a picture above a fireplace.

One question I have though about grading, if anyone can help, is the issue of paper loss. I recently sold 10 PSA 1's that looked like PSA 5's but got 1's due to paper loss on the back. When I search Ebay, I find PSA 3's with paper loss on the back so I was perplexed. I called PSA to try and find an "official" ruling on if paper loss means an automatic PSA 1 and was told it's up to each graders opinion. That doesn't make much sense to me if they are working on consistentcy. Has anybody had much experience grading cards with paper loss? Does it almost always mean a PSA 1?

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My Ebay Listings



Date Posted: Sep/07/2006 7:07 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Wabit - In my experience with T-206's at the low end I can tell you that I have definitely seen cards with some paper loss fall into PSA 1, 2 or 3 holders. There is no real rule of thumb but here are some general observations.

Any card that looks like its been removed from a scrapbook; where significant portions of the back pull away from the card leaving some portion of the description on the back missing , you can assume that it will always be a PSA 1.

As the paper loss lessens and the cause of the loss leans more and more towards the indeterminate, there is a slightly better chance it may make it into a PSA 2 holder.
Some cards have only a tiny little spot or two of paper loss. This can appear almost anywhere on the card and possibly still allow for a PSA 2 or PSA 3 grade. It is most likely here that the cause of such a loss cannot be determined and is not evident upon a quick inspection, especially when the small spot appears over a solid white section of the card.
An example of this is a tad of edge chipping that pulls off a minute piece of border paper or a small corner crease that leaves a small piece of paper loss on the corner.

Ultimately, the smaller examples of paper loss do fall to the judgement of the grader and it's effect on eye appeal. That discretion is built into their grading standards as published in the SMR.
Certainly any card that looks like a 5 or a 6 on the front with somewhat sharp corners stands a better chance to get a little bump up based on eye appeal.
But if the paper loss on the back is significant (scrap book removal); don't count on it.
Hope that helps.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!

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Date Posted: Sep/07/2006 7:16 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

To the rest of the responders (Andy, RipMass, Joe, Steve), thanks for the kind words. I really just wanted to send out the message that this can be for anyone who dreams they want to do it. There is a way. Find and love those low graders!

Yawie - Great cards!
It's inspiring to know that you broke down your PSA set and still managed to embrace the set so much that you restructured and recontinued the quest to build it raw. Way to go! There is no wrong way.

The key to this set for us low grade guys is to feret out all and any possible way to keep the train on the tracks and add cards. Pick up 1 a week, or 1 a month even. Before you know it, you'll have a bunch and it's an incredible feeling!

RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!

 09/07/2006 19:19:14|U



Date Posted: Sep/08/2006 5:45 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Some more low grade attachments to enjoy. Commons and HOF'ers alike can be found, afforded and enjoyed in low grade. I got my Cy Young raw and was just ecstatic that it holdered with a grade. But as you can see the image is pretty sound.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Sep/08/2006 6:13 AM
Posted By: tkd7 (Collector)



You have a great eye for picking cards with great "eye appeal"



Date Posted: Sep/08/2006 8:39 AM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Ray,

I must tell you, that was an excellent read. I have been contemplating starting a pre-war set but have been a little reluctant in doing so out of a concern for "losing focus" in my other sets. Your post may have just sealed the deal though!

I've been torn between starting a T-206 set or 1934-36 Diamond Stars. From a sheer historical perspective though, I don't think there is any set that can compare to the T-206. Without trying to sound overly dramatic, I think this set goes beyond just a 'baseball card set' and almost borders something 'spiritual'.

Thanks again for the great post,
Mike



Date Posted: Sep/08/2006 10:50 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Mike,
You've hit it on the head exactly. "Spiritual" is certainly synonomous with the experience of working on this set.
Join the fray and you'll never forget it.
RayB

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Date Posted: Sep/08/2006 2:48 PM
Posted By: Archaninator (Veteran)

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Date Posted: Sep/11/2006 10:44 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Nice Cobb.

My newest additions including my first Lajoie!:





RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Sep/11/2006 12:14 PM
Posted By: JonB (Veteran)

Just a thought... I wonder why PSA hasn't created the T206 team sets in the team sets part of the registry. It seems the team sets are pretty much limited to 1951 through present Topps and Bowman.

I have been thinking about buying some T206 cards and have been tracking the prices for quite a while now on very well centered PSA 3's. It would be nice to put together a team set before trying to tackle 97-99% of the regular set. (yes I know, I could simply make my own excell checklist, but it is so nice to be able to use the registry as my checklist and attach pics)

Does anyone have an excell sheet with the T206 set broken down by teams?

thanks!

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Buying:
1953 Topps (Well Centered) PSA 5-7 (only 5, 6, and 7, none of this .5 junk)





Date Posted: Sep/18/2006 8:47 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Sometimes PSA's choice of holder alone will allow for a deal on a nice T-206 card. Some folks are unwilling to bid their max if the the holder continuity in their collections is disturbed. Grab the bargains and buy the card. Here's an example of a nice card in a holder thar some folks can't stomach.




RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Sep/19/2006 10:31 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

ah, finally someone started a thread like this in this forum. i usually get my fill of t206 info from net54. nice to see there are collectors here who want to talk about this set.

i started collecting t206's about a year ago. my first buy was a t206 red portrait cobb. a wonderful card...beautiful beyond words. my intent in buying this card was not to start collecting the set. i wanted to own a pre war issue of cobb. all of his other aesthetically pleasing cards were too expensive (especially the caramel issues, which in my opinion, are designed very well). so, i bought the very affordable cobb red. from there, i decided to dabble a little more in some of the other t206 HOFers. i bought a tris speaker next...then an eddie collins...then a mathewson white cap. soon, i decided to start collecting HOF portraits. Bought a walter johnson...griffith...huggins. i got hooked quickly. i then decided to not limit it to portraits...but collect all t206 HOFers. got the mordecai brown...home run baker....rube marquard. Finally, a few months ago, i decided to collect the whole damn thing (well, minus the big 4 of course). ive collected likely 1/5th of the set.

it's a wonderful set with so much history. there are so many ways to collect the set....i just went through several variations before finally deciding to collect the whole set.

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Date Posted: Sep/19/2006 2:35 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Well I've decided I am going to attempt to VERY SLOWLY start collecting some T206's here and there - I love this set and I can't help it.

I've had a few snipes set up for some low grade commons (PSA 1 or 2 and SGC 10-30) but I get outbid every single time. I've been setting up the snipes for what I feel is a fair price based on recent closed auctions but it in the back of my mind, I'm wondering if I'm just chasing the market (kinda like the internet stock boom of the late 90's - wasn't that fun???). Has me a little discouraged. Then I start thinking about what it would cost to try and compile a set (minus the big 4) and then I REALLY get discouraged.

For those who have actually been collecting the set for a while, what's an average fair price to pay for a low grade common with a basic Sweet Caporal or Piedmont back? I assume eBay is the most economical way to go?

Mike



Date Posted: Sep/19/2006 3:29 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Mikey - Don't get discouraged. It's part of the learning curve. Keep in mind that any price you pay today will be a bargain tomorrow when it comes to this set. Having said that here's a basic jumping off point for prices at this moment.
Commons with a common back (SC or Pied.)
PSA 1 $20-25
PSA 2 $25-32
PSA 3 $28-40

Keep in mind that cards in this range can display various flaws. If you are trying to snag nice ones you could be expect to pay high end of the price scale. Also keep in mind that some cards are commons per SMR but not to pre-war collectors. Major metro team collectors from NY, Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis can drive respective prices especially any NY players.

There's a lot of competition at the bottom too. PSA 1,2,3 is a popular entry point for good reason. There are a 100 or so commons though, that are more common than others. When you bid strongly on those you should be a winner.
Make sure you are happy with the flaws of your cards of choice so when you win you'll like what you get in. Sometimes it pays to overbid just a little in the beginning just to get the train rolling (You might even try hitting one of the BIN's in Stores just to get one). Try not to "match" market price with the first few. You can excercise more patience after you get your feet planted.

Please let us know when you get your first win!
RayB


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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!

 09/19/2006 15:39:03|U



Date Posted: Sep/19/2006 5:43 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Thanks for all the info Ray. Very helpful. I'll post a scan when I win one!

Mike



Date Posted: Sep/20/2006 3:11 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Well I got my first wins last night and this morning. I was actually extremely happy with the price I got some of them for. I'll post some scans when I get them as the ebay scans weren't that great.



Date Posted: Sep/20/2006 5:49 PM
Posted By: Twinsthreepeat (Senior Member)

Hello,
I recently decided that I wanted some cool pre-war cards. After six months of research and narrowing down just what it is that I wanted. I decided on T206's. Not the whole set, I want to get the eight Minneapolis Millers and the Two St. Paul Apostles. Ten cards, was too easy (I like challenges), so I want all tens cards in all 13 different back types. 130 cards, that's more like it. I've picked up four so far. Not really worried about the 2 sweet caporals, or the piedmont at this point. Anyone have any thoughts, advice, for sale?



Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 4:05 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Twinsy - That "simple" 130 card set will be a daunting task.
Without knowing for sure that, indeed, all the cards are available in all backs, getting any one of the cards in backs like Lenox, Broadleaf, Drum, Hundu, or even EPDG or American Beauty will be exceedingly tough, and expensive.
Let us know if you are able to acquire any of those; we'd love to see them here.
Best of Luck.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 4:34 AM
Posted By: Twinsthreepeat (Senior Member)

Ray,
I said That I like challenges, and I know it will take years to find some backs. All the millers and apostles are from the 350 only series. the backs are
Drum
broadleaf
carolina brights
tolstoi
american beauty
cycle
el principe de gales
old mill
sovereign
polar bear
sweet caporal factory 30
sweet caporal factory 25
piedmont
So far I have a cycle, old mill and a couple sovereigns



Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 5:17 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Ten Drums will probably set you back about $20,000, assuming you could even find them over the course of your lifetime. Broadleaf and Carolina Brights would be more financially feasible, but they're also very hard to track down. Still, it's a fun way to collect and I'm doing the same thing with St. Louis players. If I can finish just one front-back player set, I'll be happy.

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Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 7:49 AM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

What a great thread. I have been building a 1961 Topps Baseball set for nearly two years. I only need one more card! I have been going around and around trying to decide what is next. I have considered, 1962 Topps, 1952 Topps, 1941 Playball, Cracker Jack, 1933 Goudey. Never did I even consider T206... After reading this thread, I think I may go with the T206. It will probably take me a year just to understand this set.

Do any of you have any advice and where and how to start? What are some good resources for information regarding this set, checklists, pricing?

Thanks for all you wonderfull posts.

262 Runner
(Dave)

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Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 8:02 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< What a great thread. I have been building a 1961 Topps Baseball set for nearly two years. I only need one more card! I have been going around and around trying to decide what is next. I have considered, 1962 Topps, 1952 Topps, 1941 Playball, Cracker Jack, 1933 Goudey. Never did I even consider T206... After reading this thread, I think I may go with the T206. It will probably take me a year just to understand this set.

Do any of you have any advice and where and how to start? What are some good resources for information regarding this set, checklists, pricing?

Thanks for all you wonderfull posts.

262 Runner
(Dave)
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Dave, Do you have any midgrade 61's raw that you dont know what to do with? I'm putting together a raw set, condition not a big issue. E-mail me if you need to unload some. Joe
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Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 11:21 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Do any of you have any advice and where and how to start? What are some good resources for information regarding this set, checklists, pricing? >>



Here's a recent thread that provides some info:

thread

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Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 5:39 PM
Posted By: Twinsthreepeat (Senior Member)

dave,
I found the following website very informative. There is also a download t206 database written by mike poland. Very, Very nessecessary if you want to start this set.
t206 museum



Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 6:30 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

New pick ups tonight. Spent $85 total. Not bad eye appeal for 1's.



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Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 6:56 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

Thanks for all the information.

Dave



Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 7:30 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Duecy - Those cards look great; especially the Tinker portrait. I think I recall it maybe having some back damage...but this goes to my point though, exactly. Once you are able to wrap your arms around what flaws are acceptable to you, then you can forge ahead and forage for cards with great eye appeal. Those two certainly qualify. Hell the corners and color and strong image look more like 4's and 5's.
I contemplated that Tinker for a while for myself. Gotta dig Tinker's hair!
Nice snag!
I think you will really enjoy those when you get to look at them up close.
RayB

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 09/21/2006 19:31:31|U



Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 7:43 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

I picked this Wid Conroy up the other night.
It's one of my many "favorite" cards in the set. I've been looking for a nice low grader for a while with vibrant color and I felt that this one fit the bill. There are a number of really great cards that include a rainbow of assorted colors in the litho, but very few have this complete a spectrum.
I'm really, really pleased!
Enjoy.
RayB



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Date Posted: Sep/21/2006 8:05 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Ray, You're right. I've never seen a T206 with all that color. Very nice pick up.

As far as my PSA 1's. Back damage doesn't bother me at all. The Tinker is a $250 card in a PSA1 holder as far as Im concerned. What I mean by that is I would have to pay $250 for that nice front image. I'm not competing for the best of the best. Just filling out a classic set. I normally don't stare at the backs anyways.

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Date Posted: Sep/22/2006 1:11 AM
Posted By: blindflyer (Veteran)

Guys,

What an enjoyable thread. I'm not a t206 collector at all ... in fact, 3 months ago I wasn't even collecting cards. I'm 29 -- stopped collecting when I was about 14. It's been so much fun to get back into the hobby again. I'm working on a '60 Topps set in PSA 8 or better and it's been a blast. I find the temptation to drift into other things is SO strong --- I even confess I've fallen prey to it already.

Anyway, I decided to scan the only t-206 I own. It's just a run of the mill common (Piedmont back even), but I remember the day I traded for it nearly 20 years ago when I was a kid. Sadly, I think I ended up giving a beat up Jackie Robinson for it, but I was so drawn to it b/c of it's age --- I hadn't had anything like it. When I came back to collecting a few months ago, I decided to get it holdered. I definitely enjoy it's eye appeal. I really like the rounded corners, makes it more "authentic" in my mind....

Cheers,
Tom



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Date Posted: Sep/22/2006 7:04 AM
Posted By: viking7 (Senior Member)

I really enjoyed reading this thread. Great looking cards across the board, thanks for posting those!

Steve



Date Posted: Sep/22/2006 10:48 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

anyone net something from the collection of t206s set_builders were selling last night? I bid on three, got two...




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Date Posted: Sep/22/2006 3:03 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Great, great stuff guys! I find myself reading this thread daily to gain more knowledge about this great set. Here are two of my more recent pickups:





Date Posted: Sep/23/2006 5:20 AM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

Honestly, not that I'm trying to spam anything (these cards aren't even mine, I'm selling them for somebody else), but you should see the T206's I have up for sale now. I'm selling them for an online friend of mine and he started by having me sell 10 PSA 1's that were gorgeous. The looked like PSA 5's but had paper loss on the back. So, he decided not to grade the rest since he didn't want all PSA 1's. He's been having me sell them for him ungraded since I have a good feedback and am good with my auctions and pictures. If you guys are looking for cards that look like PSA 5's for dirt cheap, check them out. The last batch I sold for him averaged about $15-$20 a card.

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My Ebay Listings



Date Posted: Sep/23/2006 7:54 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)



<< anyone net something from the collection of t206s set_builders were selling last night? I bid on three, got two...

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Major Danby - Great looking cards. Set Builders is one of eBay's best dealers for T-206. Joe T. is one of the most honest dealers and true gentleman in our hobby.
His scans are the best, and he always shows front and back. Nothing left to the imagination.

Go Steelers - That Donovan is a blazer. Congrats.

RayB

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Date Posted: Sep/23/2006 9:07 AM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

I bought this raw on eBay for $50 back in the spring. Very happy with the 5 it graded.




Date Posted: Sep/23/2006 11:37 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Major, Sweet looking 2's. Check your PM. Joe

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Date Posted: Sep/24/2006 5:39 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Didn't pick up anything all that great in terms of players this week, but Harry Pattee's one year in the bigs at least yielded one of the coolest cards in the set:



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Date Posted: Sep/24/2006 8:41 PM
Posted By: Twinsthreepeat (Senior Member)

Here is my latest edition to my millers set. Won it tonight




Date Posted: Sep/24/2006 9:40 PM
Posted By: onegaucho (Veteran)

I used to have a ton of HOFers with rare backs but I sold them as a group a few years back. I recently won this Collins for my 3k hit RC set (I'll attach a scan of my HOFers just for kicks):




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Date Posted: Sep/28/2006 3:14 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

One Gaucho - I've always enjoyed seeing those great HOF'er all lined up in that scan of yours. Thanks again for sharing. Nice Collins too. I was lucky enough to get my Collins cheap because it had a little bit of staining on the back but the front on mine (which has since graded out as PSA 2) is stunning.



I've got a PSa 3 McGraw coming now to add to my set that has an amazing image as well. I'll scan that one when I get it in.
RayB

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Date Posted: Sep/28/2006 7:59 PM
Posted By: TheCARDKid (Collector)

Any opinions on the huge number of high grade T206's in the latest Heritage auction? It's been awhile since I've seen that many cards in a single auction.



What a great action shot...





Date Posted: Sep/28/2006 9:08 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

WOW, what a great set this is.... my first T206....



Thanks for this thread.... I'm hooked!


262



Date Posted: Sep/28/2006 9:14 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Great start, dude. I've been hoping for a Magee for awhile now, but they typically fetch a decent premium relative to other common portraits.

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Date Posted: Sep/29/2006 3:40 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

262 - Nice Magee; I find myself particularly drawn to those olive green backround portraits.

I picked up this PSA 1 card this week. Paid a couple dollars more than the typical PSA 1; can't beat the eye appeal on it though. Sorta looks like a 3. Has a pretty clean Polar Bear back as well.



Like I said in the very beginning of this thread; slow semi regular progress will have you waking up one day to a pile of good looking low grade cards from this set. It's been a 2 card week for me this week and I am very happy with that.
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/02/2006 12:28 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

McGraw Portrait No Cap scan as promised. As I have tried to build this arguement for enjoying the low grade angle, I've tried also to show that anything PSa 3 and below still has great potential for sparkling eye appeal. This McGraw is just another example of a well centered, blazing color, and sweet image low grader.
Enjoy.
Anyone have anything (T-206) new this week to share?



RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/03/2006 1:22 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Great scans. I just finished rewatching the Ken Burns Baseball documentaries and it was great watching the first couple of discs (through 1920) and hearing the stories of the some of the T206 players. Makes them seem more personable and less like "old dead guys on cardboard". Particularly liked hearing about the nuttiness of Rube Wadell and nervouseness of Johnny Evers. There were some real characters playing ball back then. For those that haven't seen the films in a while, I highly recommend giving it another look.

Mike



Date Posted: Oct/03/2006 2:30 PM
Posted By: JonB (Veteran)

Speaking of good looking lower grade cards, this has got to be the nicest PSA 3 Cobb red I have ever seen...

ebay link

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Date Posted: Oct/03/2006 3:48 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Jon,
For whatever reason, PSA seems to be particularly tough on Polar Bear Backs. Spots of tobacco staining/residue are often evident especially on the back, but I would agree. That Cobb is a blazer.
I expect it will be bid up accordingly.
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/03/2006 3:56 PM
Posted By: jgarci11 (Senior Member)

When will we have a thread on the 1997 Pinnacle Press Plate Preview 1 of 1's - the other Utimate set?
Anyhow you T206's all rock !!!



Date Posted: Oct/06/2006 5:11 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

Just in todays mail... my next addition.





Date Posted: Oct/06/2006 5:57 PM
Posted By: milbroco (Expert Collector)

OK Here is my contribution. I have had this for several years and paid minimal for it.



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Date Posted: Oct/06/2006 8:55 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I had a fantastic T206 week...

My first Cobb:


A Lajoie portrait:


An admittedly rough, but nonetheless coveted Hindu Waddell:


A couple other cards for my St. Louis front-back collection:



Can't forget the Matty:


And a card in terrible technical condition, but which still looks really nice:


Oh yeah, and another American Beauty back, which is one of my favorites - probably the Grateful Dead association:


And I'm actually still waiting on the week's marquee card. Hopefully it comes tomorrow.

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Date Posted: Oct/07/2006 8:48 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Great stuff, guys. Nice Tinker, 262! Nice job on all those tough backs, Steve! Two recent pickups below for me. I purchased the McLean off of Steve. Thanks again!





Date Posted: Oct/08/2006 9:50 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



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Date Posted: Oct/10/2006 4:16 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

yawie...wow! nice...must have been an expensive week.

Got this from Steve Hart.



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Date Posted: Oct/10/2006 4:18 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

anyone know how shorter piedmont back cards can be?

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Date Posted: Oct/10/2006 4:41 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

That Clarke looks better than a 2.
Paper loss on the back?



Date Posted: Oct/10/2006 5:15 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Costly indeed, but much of it was in trade, which is always nice. Of course, my E92 Dockman effort has officially bit the dust. Just as well, I guess, since E93's are my main caramel focus, plus the E92 images can be found on lots of different caramel series.

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Date Posted: Oct/10/2006 8:32 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Finally was able to scan in some of the first cards I've picked up for my "set".




-Mike



Date Posted: Oct/10/2006 9:58 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

A few of my scraps from last week.




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Date Posted: Oct/11/2006 4:26 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Great bunch of cards guys! More solid proof that the low grade cards can look astoundingly attractive!

I was fortunate enough to pick up a Bender Portrait and Tinker Bat On last night. (Scans will be added here when I get them in). This allows me to break through the 50% barrier on the HOF content in my set. (Separate Set in the Registry available for those that were not aware of it).

RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/11/2006 8:19 AM
Posted By: qualitycards (Master Collector)

RAY - congrats on passing the 50% level of the Hall Of Famers, thats pretty impressive...jay

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Date Posted: Oct/12/2006 10:54 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice, Ray. congrats on the card collecting feat.

nice cards, everyone.


if anyone wants to do a trade, ive got a griffith portrait i want to move. psa 3 (mk). PM me if interested. only trades. thanks

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2006 12:12 PM
Posted By: Archaninator (Veteran)

For Sale: 1909 T206 Ty Cobb Bat Off Shoulder Tolstoi Reverse (rare) PSA 3 VG

SOLD

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2006 9:44 PM
Posted By: rounding3rd (Member)

Hi Guys!

I love looking at all of your cards and thought I would add my two to the mix:



Although collecting T206s isn't on the top of my list, I still keep an eye open for Cardinals/Browns players. While my "loyalty" is to PSA, I really like how these cards display in SGC slabs. I guess I will have to decide if I want to cross one over to the other someday. The Howell has some minor paper loss on the back but is amazing on the front (it was an Ebay purchase from Yawie a while back).

Enjoy!

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2006 11:05 AM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

This came in yesterdays mail.



Card has an amazing front, some staining and minor paper loss on the back. I think this is a great way to build this set with great looking cards. I try not concern myself with the backs, Its the front of the card that I'm most interested in.

262



Date Posted: Oct/14/2006 11:51 AM
Posted By: RipublicaninMass (Choose Your Title)

FWIW I like that SGC put the proper manufacturer on the flip, makes it easier to tell rare backs if there is no scan of the back.

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2006 12:54 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Wow, the Howell, Byrne, and Davis look VERY nice for the grades given...



Date Posted: Oct/15/2006 5:30 AM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

I have some more T206 cards and after looking at these, it reminded me of this thread in regards to a card looking nicer than the grade. PSA is too brutal on back paper loss. This PSA 1 has paper loss and the PSA 2 doesn't. Which would you rather own? Also, my cards are mostly Peidmont backs and I have 1 Carolina Brights back and 1 Polar Bear back. Which is the rarest and do they sell for a premium?





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My Ebay Listings



Date Posted: Oct/16/2006 7:55 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Welp,
I got in these two cards over the weekend to officially update my Base Set to 39.31% and my HOF set to that magical 50% plateau!
It is all still sort of eerie to me to have achieved these levels with this set. I am humbled, for sure.




It all proves to me what a patient low grader pursuit of nice cards can produce if you can widen your horizons, reduce your expectations and not let the overall enormity of it deter you.
Enjoy!

RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2006 11:03 AM
Posted By: ToneD (Member)

Here is my contribution. I've had the card for a while now, but can attest to how some low grade examples can be outstanding. The card has glue residue in the back but can barely be seen unless you tilt the card directy under a light. No creases or wrinkles anywhere. The card currently resides in an SGC 2 holder. Great thread and I hate to think of how many great cards I passed on just because of the grade. Never again.

P.S. I hope I attached the file correctly. My first time attempting this.





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Date Posted: Oct/16/2006 12:17 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

That's a sweet looking Green Cobb! Tone D, you should be proud of that one! That's a lifetime keeper.
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2006 9:35 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)



<< I have some more T206 cards and after looking at these, it reminded me of this thread in regards to a card looking nicer than the grade. PSA is too brutal on back paper loss. This PSA 1 has paper loss and the PSA 2 doesn't. Which would you rather own? Also, my cards are mostly Peidmont backs and I have 1 Carolina Brights back and 1 Polar Bear back. Which is the rarest and do they sell for a premium?
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There's a lot of good information here:

T206 Museum


Short answer:
Piedmont backs are the most common of all backs. The only rare Piedmonts are from the 350-460 series, Factory 42.
Polar Bear backs are also very common, but usually sell for a slight premium -- maybe 10-20% more. Polar Bear are the only backs that were packaged with scrap tobacco, so they were often stained.
Carolina Brights are the rarest of the backs that you mention. They do sell for a premium. The T206 Museum says 2X. I cannot verify this, as I have not been pursuing these. There are other backs that are even tougher than the Carolina Brights. For example, Lenox, Broadleaf 460, Drum, Uzit and Ty Cobb.


Doug



Date Posted: Oct/17/2006 6:33 AM
Posted By: mikeschmidt (:-))

As for the Carolina Brights back, the premium I think tends to also be a function of the grade. A PSA 7 Carolina Brights back will *not* sell for double a PSA 7 Sweet Cap back. But a PSA 2/3 Carolina Brights back very well may sell for double a PSA 2/3 Sweet Cap Back.

There are some players on the Carolina Brights back checklist that seem to be harder than others [for those players for whom a Carolina Brights back is possible], so there can be specific premiums paid for certain player.

That said - if your Carolina Brights back is a Philadelphia Nationals player, please let me know, as I would love to buy it.

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Date Posted: Oct/18/2006 5:12 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

The Abbott was last weeks eBay pick up.
The other five cards are self submitted. Nice raw cards I picked up over the last 2-3 months on the Bay (The Leach was cracked out of a GAI 3 holder; crossed nicely; also has an Old Mill Back). All of the cards graded out as expected. A pleasing result all in all. Enjoy!








RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/18/2006 8:14 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That Donovan portrait is one of my favorites in the set.

Here's my recent pick-ups. The first two aren't too exciting, though it's always nice to add to the St. Louis and EPDG collections...




Then there's my major addition of probably the last few months, an O'Hara St. Louis variation. It's not in the Doyle-Wagner-Plank ballpark, but it's still a pretty tough card.



And I apologize to those who frequent N54 for posting the same card on two different message boards - I don't know why, but that bugs me - but I'm pretty excited about this card. Now if I can just find a Demmitt (St. Louis).

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Date Posted: Oct/18/2006 8:59 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Excellent cards Ray and Yawie.

Ray, interesting that you would happen to show the Leach now. I'm currently reading Lawrence Ritter's book, "The Glory of Their Times" and just finished Tommy Leach's chapter. It's only the second chapter but I can safely say that this is BY FAR the best baseball book I've ever read. Highly recommend.

-Mike

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Date Posted: Oct/19/2006 4:27 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Mike,
I read "Glory...", a few months ago and found it miraculous that Ritter was able to still be able to sit down and chat with so many of these guys, so many years later. It really gave me a personal attachment to some of the guys in the set. Read on, you're gonna love it.

Steve,
Congrats on that O'Hara (St. Louis), it's a key variation non the less. There is a Demmitt on eBay now with clipped corners in a GAI AUT holder if you can stomach that sort of thing. Best of luck acquiring that one at some point too.
I love the EPDG backs. I have a few and would like to get some more.

RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/19/2006 4:51 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Yeah, I see that Demmitt for sale from time to time, but I'm trying to avoid merely "authentic" cards. Obviously that one was clipped long ago and wasn't intended to deceive modern collectors, but I'll hold out for a 1.5/2 kinda card. I figure the O'Hara would probably get a 2 because of light surface wear - maybe a bit better with GAI, which seems to be a bit more lenient at the low end of the scale, though I have noticed some grade inflation across the industry.

And, yes, The Glory of Their Times is an absolute must read for pre-WWI collectors. One of these days, I'll get the CD companion set.

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Date Posted: Oct/19/2006 11:59 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice cards, everyone

i just acquired this. i have a psa 3 version of this card....and they look practically the same. so, i decided i could save 30 dollars by going down a grade but not lose absolutely anything in aesthetics. gotta love this market!



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Date Posted: Oct/19/2006 2:54 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Major,
Sweet Jennings!
PM sent.
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/23/2006 8:15 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

Todays mail..... WOW was I excited to get this. My First Cobb, Ever! This card looks just as nice in person. The color is amazing for a 3.




More to come.

262




Date Posted: Oct/23/2006 8:18 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Sweet cards guys. I'm broke and jealous!!!!

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Date Posted: Oct/24/2006 4:36 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

262...my first cobb was the red portrait as well. actually, that was my first t206....reason why i got into the set.

are you going after the entire set? or just a subset of it?

thanks

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Date Posted: Oct/24/2006 4:39 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

I plan on slowly trying to put together the entire set.... one card at a time. No hurry, if it takes me 10 years or more, that would be fine with me.

262



Date Posted: Oct/24/2006 8:10 PM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

After reading this thread I was inspired, and so I did some reading and clicked on every link that was provided here and tried to learn as much as I could before I made my first purchase.

I don't make the big bucks so I am going for low grade and high eye appeal. After getting beat down on ebay several times, I finally was able to purchase my first card. I may have made a mistake and paid to much, but at least I have my first card under my belt. I bid $24.95 plus $2.50 for shipping for a PSA 1, but the scan of the card looked like it met the criteria.

Please let me know what you think and please be honest. If I made a mistake I don't want to continue making the same one over and over. Anyway here is the card:




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Date Posted: Oct/24/2006 8:48 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Ya done good. I'm sure paper loss is a deal breaker for a lot of collectors, but I think the front looks fantastic and the paper loss on back isn't all that obtrusive.

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2006 3:46 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

I agree with Yawie - The color on the front is dynamic, the image appears to have good registration. The paper loss (main reason this card received a PSA 1) on the back is minimal and doesn't materially destroy the beauty of the text on the back. I also agree that back damage will chase a lot of folks off a card and yield an opportunity.
As a low grade collector, something's gotta give. We have to expect and overlook certain flaws to both be able to afford cards in this set and still get cards with nice eye appeal.
It's quite ironic really that one's first T-206 card should be "Bliss"!
Congratulations!
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2006 8:41 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)



<< It's quite ironic really that one's first T-206 card should be "Bliss"! >>

I didn't think about that

I like the look of the card and I think the color and the corners look good for a PSA 1. If I could purchase cards that look like this I would be very satisfied. I am by know means an expert at grading, but I do think that the front has the "look" of a higher grade card.

I can live with the small amount of paper loss on the back. Thank you for your comments.

Rick

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2006 3:54 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Bunker - That card (based on the small scan) looks like it has PSA 5/6 corners. I'm actually a little surprised, even with the paper loss, that PSA didn't squeeze that into a PSA 2 holder based on eye appeal.
You should, almost never, expect to see corners that good on a PSA 1, but it's mostly about image. If the image is really sound I think that's what makes up a nice low grade addition.
I also think you are really going to enjoy this journey. You will pinch yourself after you've accumulated some cards and say" I can't believe I own these"! It really is magical "bliss".
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2006 5:02 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

I was just checking out the pop report. There are 13 T206 cards that graded 10.
Wow, I would like to see the scans of those!



Date Posted: Oct/25/2006 7:17 PM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)



<< It really is magical "bliss". >>



Maybe I should name my regisrty set "BLISSful Journey"

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Date Posted: Oct/26/2006 12:07 AM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

well i love the look of this set but i think i will stay with the T-205 set, i already have an ungraded MATHEWSON and i see this set as much more possible for me..well unless someone wants to throw a few COBB'S my way, i am trying to only spend $100 a month...well yeah you do the math.

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Date Posted: Oct/26/2006 4:37 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

ahhh....i dont need more competition for low grade, but great eye appeal T206's!!!!!

here are more just acquired. thanks to wabbitwax for the first three!








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Date Posted: Oct/26/2006 4:44 PM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

MajorDanby those are some nice looking card's! I am guessing they are 1's due to paper loss on the back?

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Date Posted: Oct/26/2006 4:49 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

i am sooo tempted to buy into this set but the prices are killers for me...though i have considerd getting some of the HOF cards does anyone know how i can get reasonbly priced HOF cards with layaway plans?

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2006 2:24 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< I am guessing they are 1's due to paper loss on the back? >>



yep. the 2's were due to staining.

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2006 6:44 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Nice stuff, guys. Another one I picked up recently...



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Date Posted: Oct/27/2006 6:52 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

wow that almost looks to be a 5 to me..but what do i know....well i made the big plunge today i bid on 3 cards wish me luck..and does anyone here know where i can get a few COBBS on a layaway plan?

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2006 7:15 PM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

gosteelers, I agree, that is a gorgeous PSA 4. I'd resubmit it if I were you. Look at some pictures of PSA 4's from the Set Registry sets and you'll see some 4's that are way,way worse than yours. It looks undergraded unless it has a heavy crease that we can't see.

Majordanby, I saw that you bid on some of those that I had up there. Those are all from a friend of mine and I'm selling them for him. He just sent me another stack of PSA 1's similiar to those that I'll probably run next week. He's gotta be close to running out by now though because I've already sold about 100-150 of them for him.

PSA 1 commons are really weird because they close on ebay for anywhere from $10 up to one that closed for me at $56. People really do judge them by eye appeal rather than the grade.

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2006 8:02 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Thanks for the nice comments on the Schlei. There is a small (very small!) crease on the right hand side a little up from the bottom. Otherwise, it has a lot of eye appeal.

Mark



Date Posted: Oct/28/2006 8:24 AM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

I agree on the Schlei PSA 4. It looks better than the 5 I have.



Date Posted: Oct/28/2006 4:09 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Great Schlei!

Bliss and 262 - Noticed your sets "new" on the Registry. Best of Luck to you both in your journey.
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2006 7:33 PM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

Thank you, I look forward to this. I am watching several cards on ebay that end Sunday night, hopefully I will be adding a few more soon.

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Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 6:20 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Hi Bunker,

My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 last May. Fortunately, we had time for her to adjust to a new life style before she went away to college. With new advances in diabetes treatment, your daughter will live a long and productive life and hopefully, with more research, the disease will be better understood and less invasive to those afflicted with it. My heart goes out to you and daughter.
On a less serious note, I picked up 44 t206s last weekend. They represent the last half of a 88 card attic find. the cards were actually retrieved from a trashcan because the seller thought that they might be worth something ( his grandfather had thrown them away as they were cleaning out the house). I will try to do a scan of some of the cards. I have to resize and am not really sure how to do it.

Bender, I also have about 15 t205s and 30 t206s I can trade or sell if you are interested. I am #19 on the t205 registry.

Regards everyone, Martin

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Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 7:43 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

mafolig - I might also be interested in any nice low grade T206's you might have that I need in my set.
PM or email me at [email protected]

You should enable your PM capabilities for ease of communication here too, Martin.
Regards,
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Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 9:07 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Finally updated my site with the pickups of the last 10 days or so. Mainly some fair through vg commons from a small Huggins & Scott win, but also a few eBay wins and this N54 B/S/T acquisition:



A few other highlights:






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Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 9:09 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

mafoliq thank you for the kind words and I hope your daughter is adjusting well.

An 88 card attic find?! OMG! How incredible that must have been. Do you have a list of the cards that were found? I would also be interested in some of the cards as well.

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JDRF Donation



Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 9:22 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

yawie99 those are some beautiful cards. I hope that my collection turns out that nice!


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JDRF Donation



Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 2:13 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

Wabittwax,

I also was a bidder on many of your recent PSA 1's. I only won three however. If you have more to list could you let me know when you will be putting those up?

Thanks for the great cards.

262



Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 2:26 PM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

I am working on them tonight and they should start on Tuesday night hopefully.

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Date Posted: Oct/29/2006 2:56 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

i will be waiting to see them unless uf cours i win the psa-6 miller huggins..then i will be tapped out for this month...but i will have a great new card.

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Date Posted: Nov/01/2006 6:08 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

I will be submitting 25 T-206 cards here in the near future all of which will fall in the 1,2,3,4 range.
I am curious, of course, to witness the care at which PSA takes to apply the new labeling standards (back designation on the label) to the cards.
Anybody plan on sending any of their cards to be reholdered/relabeled for PSA's $3 relabeling fee?

RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/01/2006 6:45 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)



<< Anybody plan on sending any of their cards to be reholdered/relabeled for PSA's $3 relabeling fee? >>



I am going to do it after all I only have 2 cards so far lol.

I wasn't able to pick up any more cards Sunday night, I was outbid on every single auction. I need to get a better feel for what they are worth although, In most cases I lost the auction for less than $5.00.

I am also starting to recognize some of the players bidding. In a lot of cases it seems that the same 2-3 guy's are going head to head. I wonder if any of them post here?

Here is a scan of latest purchase. Compare the PSA 1 to the PSA 3. The PSA 1 has a small amount of paper loss but I mean da%.






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JDRF Donation

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Date Posted: Nov/01/2006 6:52 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

yeah i think someone is carzy....

overpriced you think...

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Date Posted: Nov/03/2006 3:08 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

bunker...in my opinion, that psa 3 doesnt even compare to that psa 1. i would take the psa 1 10 times out of 10.

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Date Posted: Nov/04/2006 6:53 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

WELL YOU CRAZY PEOPLE NOW GOT ME STARTED..OH HOW WILL I EVER GET THIS ONE FINISHED...LOL

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Date Posted: Nov/04/2006 9:29 PM
Posted By: RipublicaninMass (Choose Your Title)

I saw a nice cy young bare hand shows Gai 3 for about 800 bucks, I felt it was an OK deal, not a steal

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Date Posted: Nov/04/2006 10:08 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Picked up two of my favorites for about $45 total this week:





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Date Posted: Nov/05/2006 6:56 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I decided to take the plunge and pulled the trigger on my first one tonight. If anybody has any in the PSA 1-3 range for sale shoot me a PM. I prefer a presentable front so I can live with some back damage.

Regards,

Scott





Date Posted: Nov/06/2006 5:40 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Steve - Nice Herzog and Merkle. How many yo up to now?

Scott - Welcome aboard! Go slowly and enjoy the ride! The Davidson looks sweet and is a nice start.

RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/06/2006 6:28 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Many, many thanks and a loud shout out to JoesVintageSportscards for this stunning Cobb Bat On, which completes my 4 card Cobb T-206 subset!



...And a few more recent acquisitions to my T-206 HOF subset as well.




This is where I pinch myself!
RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/06/2006 6:31 AM
Posted By: RipublicaninMass (Choose Your Title)

Is there another variation of that Mcgraw with a diffrent finger in the air..lol

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Date Posted: Nov/07/2006 3:19 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Those pickups look really nice, Ray. Congrats on finishing the Cobb collection!

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Date Posted: Nov/08/2006 7:08 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Received in the mail today. Polar Bear back...





Date Posted: Nov/08/2006 8:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Ray & Gosteelers
Beautiful cards!

Regards

Scott



Date Posted: Nov/09/2006 3:03 PM
Posted By: reggiejax44 (Member)

Hello,

I have been following this thread for a while and have about 40 t206 cards so far. I just won an auction on ebay for a psa 1 Christy Mathewson psa1, dark cap, polar bear back. I paid $175.00. Do you guys think that this was a fair price? I'll try to link the auction below:

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2006 3:24 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Reggie - Nice Mathewson. I've seen 2's look worse. If it's relatively clean on the back you did ok.
The Mathewson Dark Cap is one of a handful of HOF'er cards in the set that are in abundance. They rarely go for a large premium (with a common back) but they certainly always garner a lot of attention in any grade because after all; it's Mathewson.
The bottom line is this; if you are happy with the hammer price then it was a good deal.
Secondly, even if it were a tad high, the trend line on this set, especially HOF'ers is Higher. So congratulations! A premium today will be a bargain tomorrow.

Quick Matty Dark Cap story. Matty Dark Cap was also one of my first T206 HOF acquisitions. If you revisit my very first post you will read about my magical experience of getting it in my hands for the first time, the goose bumps, the defining moment, the whole thing.
But the other cool thing about the card was that I won it for a decent price in an eBay auction as well. What is significant though was the seller did not list the back designation on the listing. Turns out that when I got the card in, it had a Tolstoi Back. Not really really rare, but definitely would have commanded a premium if it had been noted. Needless to say I was tickled and still am.

My Matty Dark cap:



RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Nov/09/2006 3:47 PM
Posted By: reggiejax44 (Member)

Thanks for the comments Ray!

I'll try to scan some more of my T206's tomorrow and post them here if nobody minds. They are mostly raw with a few graded ones mixed in.



Date Posted: Nov/10/2006 8:11 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

I haven't checked in for a few days...man have I missed some nice cards!

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JDRF Donation



Date Posted: Nov/10/2006 11:56 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< Received in the mail today. Polar Bear back...

>>



That's another of my favorites. Nice pick-up!

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Date Posted: Nov/10/2006 4:09 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

anyone bid on wabbit's auctions?

Here's what i got (really like the o'leary protrait):






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Date Posted: Nov/10/2006 4:58 PM
Posted By: Pittfan (Veteran)

Major, those are some really nice ones. Is it due to paper loss on the back?



Date Posted: Nov/10/2006 8:14 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

A couple new additions this week. They're just commons but I actually really like miscuts like this Doolan...



...and who doesn't love Carolina Brights backs? This Maddox doubles - doubles! - my CB collection...



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Date Posted: Nov/11/2006 12:06 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Steve,
Great CB. Still looking for my first!
RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/11/2006 5:28 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Some recent beaters from a couple of weeks ago.

Added a couple Sovereign's


My second Wallace. A lot cleaner than my Piedmont. Came out of a SGC 30 slab.

First horizontal.

And my first AB.


Great looking 1's MD!
Nice CB back on the Maddox Steve. Pittsburgh players have some awesome colors on their cards.



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Date Posted: Nov/11/2006 8:02 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Good stuff, Ben! I had a few of those tracked and might have even bid on that Phelps. I was happy to see that you won it. For what it's worth, I ended up listing that Konetchy I showed you a while back on eBay tonight. I've just been spending waaaaay too much lately on cards and - gasp! - clothes and shoes.

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Date Posted: Nov/12/2006 1:13 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Thanks Steve,
I didn't expect to win the Phelps. Thought it would go much higher than $40 something.
I'm watching your Konetchy, forgot you were trying to sell it on your website. Looks like a really nice card and i could use it.
Ben

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Date Posted: Nov/13/2006 7:23 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Just arrived today. I'll take nicely centered 2's all day long.







Date Posted: Nov/14/2006 10:09 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

picked these up last week, the start to a t206 set (small start), looking for portraits to begin with





Date Posted: Nov/14/2006 1:20 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice stuff, guys. what percent of the set are you up to now, yawie?

thanks

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2006 2:41 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I've got 265 different T206's in my "permanent" collection, but I have multiple copies of some players, especially the St. Louisans. So I'm guessing I'm in the 45 percent ballpark. But in terms of value, I'm probably much lower than that since I still need three Cobbs, all the Youngs, not to mention the Demmitt and Magie I hope to add one of these days.

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2006 6:26 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Give it up for Asphalt man! Nice bunch of low graders!

Steve; 245; wow! Nice.

RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/15/2006 3:54 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks Ray, its a small start, but a start none the less...I picked up that lot in a trade. Here is two more cards I picked up on ebay a couple days ago, both raw, but for decent prices. I'm real happy with the Smith Southern Leaguer with the Hindu back, poor condition, but hard to find SLger's in my opinion with Hindu's.





Date Posted: Nov/15/2006 7:23 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave - Nice grab on that Hindu SL. Those are tough in any grade.

Pursuant to previous comments I've made about buying cards that are low grade with nice eye appeal of the image but exhibit tough non-strategic creasing; let me present my latest acquisition.
This Waddell Portrait has a rough crease on the front that chased some folks from bidding. I call it non-strategic because the crease does not impair the image of the player. There still exists a nice clean portrait image of Waddell. This type of card can usually be won at a significant discount to expectations.
As a low grade T-206 set builder, in order to be able to afford to get to the finish line someday we need to grab onto some of these opportunites along the way, as well as those where we spend a little more for graded PSA 2 and 3 examples of HOF'ers. If we don't we'll never get there. Consequently I am really happy about this snag. Embrace the flaws!
RayB

Oh yeah...got the bonus of the Sovereign Back to boot!




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Date Posted: Nov/15/2006 8:02 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray-
Congrats on the Waddell pickup, I looked long and hard at it....but in the end, my good looks were only going to pay for so much today.



Date Posted: Nov/16/2006 10:18 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Major, those are some really nice ones. Is it due to paper loss on the back? >>



pittfan..sorry, your question got lost in all of these scans.

Yes, all have paperloss. im not too sensitive about the back. centering and the presentation of the front are more important to me.

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Date Posted: Nov/17/2006 2:38 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

The HOF portion of my humble T-206 set is now officially updated to show 60% complete. Still have to pinch myself!

My T-206 HOF Set

RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/18/2006 7:00 AM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Well I was finally able to pick up a card of the one player that I've been coveting since I decided to jump into T206. Don't have it in my hands yet but here's a pic anyway. I think GAI was very generous in giving it a 2, but it does have "eye appeal" so I'm happy.

Mike





Date Posted: Nov/18/2006 10:07 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Mikey - Congratulations! The Mathewson was the card that really lit the fire under me with this set. The registration, color and clarity on yours are quite good. In other words nice eye appeal. You've overlooked or downplayed some of the cards other flaws and in turn have landed your self a Mathewson. "A Mathewson". Say that to yourself. "I've got a Mathewson"! Feels pretty good; don't it?
Enjoy.
RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/18/2006 9:19 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)



<< "A Mathewson". Say that to yourself. "I've got a Mathewson"! Feels pretty good; don't it? >>



You're exactly right Ray. When it gets here and I open up the package, I fully expect the sky to part and shine glorious beams of light on me and the card.

Well maybe not exactly like that, but it should be a sweet feeling nonetheless.



Date Posted: Nov/18/2006 9:35 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

GAI can definitely be generous - at least at the lower end of the scale - but I think that Matty looks nice for the grade. And I dig the Sovereign Waddell, Ray.

Here are the highlights of my T206 haul for the week. I think all of them were SGC 40's:









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Date Posted: Nov/19/2006 10:01 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

yawie...so, you have a demmit and a o'hara? any chance i can see a scan of those? thanks

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Date Posted: Nov/20/2006 8:50 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Steve,
Real nice bunch. EPDG's are my favorite T206 Back!

Here's the closest thing to a name sake I have in the set.



RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/20/2006 4:55 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nah, just this one:



A decent Demmitt ended last night but I forgot about it. Just as well, since I've blown a lot on cards lately. Guess I could've sold something to swing it, but I suppose a few surface each year.

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Date Posted: Nov/20/2006 5:53 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Not an O'Hara or Demmitt but these two arrived today:






Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 1:12 PM
Posted By: Morgoth (Expert Collector)

Me and my dad have started our T-206 HOF collection after our purchases at the Chicago Sun Times show last weekend. We were able to pick up a Cy Young Glove at Hip PSA 4 (Polar Bear back), Walter Johnson Portrait PSA 2, Fred Clark Bat PSA 2 and a Christy Mathewson White Cap PSA 4 all this weekend. We have a T205 Cobb PSA 3 so we might trade it in on some T206 Cobbs or other HOF's. The Johnson portrait is very nice for a 2. Missing paper on back. I can post some scans if anyone is interested. They were all from the partial set sold at the Louisilville Slugger Museum.

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 6:27 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Lets see em!



Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 8:34 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

My latest additions to the monster...

with EPDG back

Piedmont back

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 9:53 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)



<< Me and my dad have started our T-206 HOF collection after our purchases at the Chicago Sun Times show last weekend. We were able to pick up a Cy Young Glove at Hip PSA 4 (Polar Bear back), Walter Johnson Portrait PSA 2, Fred Clark Bat PSA 2 and a Christy Mathewson White Cap PSA 4 all this weekend. We have a T205 Cobb PSA 3 so we might trade it in on some T206 Cobbs or other HOF's. The Johnson portrait is very nice for a 2. Missing paper on back. I can post some scans if anyone is interested. They were all from the partial set sold at the Louisilville Slugger Museum. >>



how much if i may ask did the psa-3 t205 cobb set you back? i am interested in one for $1500 is that a decent price?

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 10:07 PM
Posted By: Morgoth (Expert Collector)

Here are the scans. Let me know what you think

Walter Johnson Portrait, missing some paper on back.


Cy Young PSA 4


Christy Mathewson PSA 4


Fred Clarke PSA 2. Not missing paper on back. Curious grade.


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Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 10:26 PM
Posted By: Morgoth (Expert Collector)

The T205 Cobb 3 is actually after pulling it out a GAI 3.5 and it was around 1100.

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2006 11:16 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

sadly i cant see any of those scans all i see are little red boxes

is your t205 cobb for sale i may be interested you can email me [email protected]

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2006 12:28 PM
Posted By: Southerncards (Collector)

Hi everyone

Saw some neat postcards today at Barnes & Noble. They are a boxed set of postcards that sell for about $9 and they are vintage stars in their T206 poses. Thought you guys might want to put it on your Christmas wish list!



Date Posted: Nov/26/2006 6:04 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Most recent pickup.....$30 due to PSA's mislabel......




Date Posted: Nov/26/2006 12:23 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Does anyone have a scan of a new flip from PSA on a T206 with the back shown? I'm thinking about sending some of mine in to get reholdered...


Doug



Date Posted: Nov/26/2006 5:13 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

My first hall of famer. Won it for $94 too which I think is a really good deal. Centering is nice, I'm hopeful it presents well.





Date Posted: Nov/26/2006 7:55 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Nice looking 3 lamont. Picked up my first cycle back today




Date Posted: Nov/27/2006 7:21 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Nice job on the Mordecai and Cycle back. Here are a couple more I picked up today:





Didn't pay $85 for this, looks like the guy i bought it from might have got it from Shoeless Joe's. I picked it up for $50 delivered.




My first Old Mill Back






Date Posted: Nov/27/2006 7:51 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Picked up a couple EPDG's last week.




A new favorite of mine.


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Date Posted: Nov/27/2006 8:02 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

i dont see a name on the middle one who is it?

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Date Posted: Nov/27/2006 8:17 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

The middle one is Jack Powell.....I had a really nice PSA 5 Powell about a month ago...but had to get rid of it for cheaper cards. Here are two I picked up tonight....competition was stiff, no great deals to be had.

Milligan has Polar Bear back and was an upgrade from a 2 to a 3

Piedmont 350



Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 3:55 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Any of you guys with the set registry had any issues registering the new T206's with the labled backs?



Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 5:51 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

I'll tell you what; I'll be darned if I can find the flaw on this one. Even looking at it real closely it still looks like a 4 or a 5 to me. Aside from having really nice eye appeal this card has a stunning image and color.
Had to share it here.



RayB



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Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 8:54 AM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Ray-
That's the best looking 2 I've seen! If you don't mind me asking, what kind of scanner do you have? I need to upgrade mine since it has a hard time scanning graded cards.

Mike



Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 12:38 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Mike - My scanners an old Compaq I paid less than $100 for 6-8 years ago. It came with Presto Page Manager software which seems to produce really nice scans. Along with a DPI feature that you can adjust size of scan it also has an LPI feature that allows for print quality scans. I think those extra lines per inch slow my process down a lot (scans seem to take forever to pass over) but the result is pretty nice. Scan with the lid up for a nice black backround.
RayB

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Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 6:50 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Ray
That's probably the nicest 2 I've seen. Here's one I won tonight. My first card of the famed double play trio:





Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 7:03 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Scott,
That Chance looks real nice. Keep it about eye appeal on those low graders and you'll be real happy with it as time passes as well.
Congrats.
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Date Posted: Nov/28/2006 7:15 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Ray
Thanks for the kind words. I agree it looks really nice and as long as there are no bad creases that I can't see (a possibility since the scan kind of sucks) I'm going to be happy as hell because it's centered really nicely. I couldn't agree more regarding presentation. I'll take 2's like yours (and hopefully mine) all day and not think twice.

Scott



Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 4:17 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked up this "ghost image" last night





Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 4:31 AM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

I use a HP Scanjet 3970. I like it so much that I'm going to buy the exact same model when I need a new one. It was like $75 or so.

By the way, here's a nice PSA 2 that I have:



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Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 5:44 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve-
Don't know if its your scans or you just have great low grade cards to begin with. Couldn't be happier with the Dessau PSA 2 I won in auction.
Sorry to repost.....by the way this is still Steve's scan, haven't had time to scan in myself yet.




Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 1:49 PM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

Well, the cards are really nice to begin with. I bought my own website, steveewel.com, to host my pictures. It's only like $9 a month to own the site and the picture quality smokes that crap that ebay gives you for free. My buddy who owns the T206's sent me 15 more to sell. I'm going to start them tomorrow. They are all PSA 1's and 2's of the same quality.

I'm actually am buying a nice card off him. Anybody have an idea of what this would grade?



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Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 3:24 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

hmm, T205's are hard to tell from scans because of the color of them and its hard to see any defects. just looking...i'd say a 4



Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 5:26 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

Nice Cobb. Without back damage I would guess a 5.



Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 5:50 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I'll guess trimmed.

Good stuff, Ben. Where'd you nab those St. Louisans with quasi-tough backs?

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Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 6:48 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Very nice Sheckard!



Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 7:32 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

nothing pretty here.....but for $7 had to pick it up for the beater set....




Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 7:45 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That's a well-spent $7, I think.

Back to that T205 Cobb: Maybe it's just me but the top border seems to slant up from left to right while the bottom border slants down in that direction. Maybe it's an irregular factory cut, but there's just something about the card I don't like. I'd only buy it on the condition that it's guaranteed to be assigned a numerical grade - and that's coming from one who's come to largely disdain third-party grading.

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Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 8:33 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

O/T......but, for the guys here that are also over on the "other' site....isn't this much more pleasant lately here? lol



Date Posted: Nov/29/2006 9:43 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)



<< O/T......but, for the guys here that are also over on the "other' site....isn't this much more pleasant lately here? lol >>


No doubt. I rarely post there but read it every few days and lately...



Date Posted: Dec/01/2006 2:33 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

That Cobb might be miscut by the factory or trimmed. My guess is trimmed in that it is very rare for a t206 or t205 to have opposite sides that are not the same length. Regardless, it will likely not grade. So, would you like to sell it! Just kidding.



Date Posted: Dec/02/2006 6:59 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Seems like I preface most of my new acquisitions with "This is one of my favorites..." but I really do mean it this time:



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Date Posted: Dec/02/2006 9:42 PM
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Date Posted: Dec/02/2006 9:47 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

The color and clarity on that Wallace are sick! What back does that, and the Bresnahan for that matter, have?

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Date Posted: Dec/02/2006 10:04 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks for the kind words Steve. They both have Piedmont 150 backs. I bought them today at the show in Reading, PA. I overpaid based on recent ebay sales ($275 for the pair) but you are right the colors and clarirty are really nice. The Wallace colors are just deep and blazing. It does have a crease on the bottom right corner but it is truly a really nice card.

The T206 prices were OUTRAGEOUS IMO at the show but I didn't drive an hour plus to come home empty handed



Date Posted: Dec/02/2006 10:18 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That's not a horrific price for the pair. A little more than eBay, but I think there's a bit of a premium attached to being able to inspect a card in person. And like you said, who wants to leave a show empty-handed?

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2006 3:19 AM
Posted By: DerekD (Senior Member)

Has anyone else added any cards to the registry with the back designations? I first got the error they weren't associated with the set yet, so they had to be added by the set registry group. Now, after they are added, they don't have the Pop #'s listed. Is this what everybody else is getting???

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2006 5:30 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Derek,
I experienced the same thing. I'll email Cosetta this morning to find out what PSA is doing to fix this and get the poop on the POP's.

Has anyone heard anything about how the POP Report will be structured regarding this set yet?
RayB

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2006 5:36 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Derek......
Fellow Yellow Jacket here in Atlanta area....bad time to be saying that though



Date Posted: Dec/05/2006 6:47 AM
Posted By: DerekD (Senior Member)

Ray,

Thanks for the update. I thought it was strange the "back" type doesn't make it on the registry either. Kinda loses some impact without it. They may have to do a bunch of changes to get this where it should be.

Asp, real tough weekend for the Jackets. Just ugly. At least, Reggie Ball can be HORRIBLE for only one more game.

DD



Date Posted: Dec/08/2006 6:46 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray...
Curious if you have been able to find anything out dealing with the new backs and the pop report.....



Date Posted: Dec/08/2006 9:28 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

In reference to the POP Report and back designation POP's PSa has responded to my inquiries by stating that initially they will be posted to the regular T206 POP with a separate line for that player with a back designation.
They expect at some time in the future to break those out of the regular (old) POP Report and start a new and independent listing of T206 cards POP's with back designation only.
Unfortunately the rsponse was no more thorough than that and it deos beget a whole bunch more questions.
It's a start I suppose.
RayB

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Date Posted: Dec/08/2006 12:02 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

oh oh....busy month...but too busy.....i think i need to sell some cards off to get my electricity back.











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Date Posted: Dec/08/2006 12:53 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Major,
Great eye appeal on those low graders! That's a killer Cy Young card!!
Congrats!
RayB

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Date Posted: Dec/11/2006 6:47 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Let's keep this thread on the front page. Here are two recent pickups for me...





Date Posted: Dec/12/2006 6:07 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks to Ray for this one:



Another Chase:



I don't know why this is only a 3:





Date Posted: Dec/13/2006 9:36 AM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

For those wondering, I sent my T205 Cobb to SGC and they graded it a 3. I thought it looked like a 4 or 5 based on what I've seen from T206's but oh well. I checked on Ebay and a PSA 3 sold for $1200 with a Peidmont back. This one's got a Polar Bear back but I'm not sure if that affect's the value any. I'm looking to sell the card. Does anyone know what a fair price I should ask for it? I'm pretty unfamiliar with stuff this old.



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Date Posted: Dec/13/2006 10:49 AM
Posted By: mikeschmidt (:-))

Steve- I would imagine in the $1,500 range or so. I think 4's are closer to $2k, with 3s closer to $1,200. I think yours is a very strong 3 for sure....

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Date Posted: Dec/13/2006 11:17 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

eye appeal is incredibly important in pre war. so a card that is downgraded to a 3 because of a small crease in the back (but looks like a 4 or 5) will sell for much higher.

here are auction prices for a T205 cobb common back in the past year

$1,280.00
$1,250.00
$1,402.10
$1,329.90
$1,380.00
$968.00

Source: vintagecardprices.com

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Date Posted: Dec/13/2006 12:53 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve,
IMO much like the T206's with polar bear backs, I think it can be tougher to find these in really good condition. With it having been scrap tobacco it was much easier to stain the cards, thus lowering the grades alot on what otherwise would have been higher graded cards. The Cobb you have looks to have the same issues with the staining on the front if I'm not mistaken. Here are my two with Polar bear backs, and both probably should have been 4's otherwise.





Date Posted: Dec/13/2006 3:00 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Congrats on that T205 Cobb. I was worried about that one from the scans.

As for Polar Bears, I actually love tobacco staining. Better yet if there's still bits of tobacco.

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Date Posted: Dec/13/2006 3:28 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
The Mullin looks great.
Like Steve, I enjoy a little bit of "built in" tobacco history with my cards. The tobacco stains on PB's don't bother me in the least.
RayB

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 9:52 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

how did this get all the way down here???

can someone give me a pop report for Tris Speaker? thanks

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 10:06 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Speaker......

1-2's 85
3-4's 122
5's 58
6's 45
7's 26
7's with Q 1
8's 12
9's 1.........whoever owns this one I have a wife for trade...



Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 10:18 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

thanks, dave.

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 5:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

This card finally arrived after 3 weeks. I hate when sellers take vacation!



Nothing special but a nice clean Old Mill back:






Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 6:13 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few more HOF'ers:





Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 6:51 PM
Posted By: MorrellMan (Expert Collector)

That's an incredibly nice Chance for a 2. Congrats on that pick up.

I am relatively new to this set; actually I might very well be the newest player on this board, since I just started this month.
Here're 4 cards that came in today's mail:









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Date Posted: Dec/18/2006 7:11 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Mark
Thanks for the kind words. Welcome to the club and congratulations on your first four pickups, they are all really nice. Very crisp and present great for the grade. You have a good eye. I think one can put together an extremely nice set in the 1-4 range. There are a lot of 1's that present great but are 1's due to paper loss on the back which I can certainly live with.

As for the Chance, the only issue (other than the corners) is a crease in the upper right corner which I feel doesn't take away a bit from the card.

Looking forward to seeing more scans.

Regards,

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 7:50 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Won this one this morning.......but haven't decided if I'll keep it or trade it for a couple lower grades



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Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 8:14 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Did someone from this thread win that GORGEOUS Bobby Wallace PSA 3 last night? That card was a blazer for a 3!



Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 8:37 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Yup...Major won it...I was wanting it pretty badly. I'd be interested once he gets the card to find out what the faults are with it....if there is a small crease or something on it somewhere...



Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 10:08 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Did someone from this thread win that GORGEOUS Bobby Wallace PSA 3 last night? That card was a blazer for a 3! >>



As dave stated above, i got the card. I always hate it when the bid goes allllllllll the way up to my max bid. People should leave well enough alone and keep the auction price 20 dollars below my max bid

I'll let you know what the fault(s) is with the card when i get it. I do see staining in the front left corner and i felt either that or some slight crease not detectable via scan was the cause of the downgrade. I was thinking about bidding on the seller's cy young card, but thought the creases in the front were too detectable for me.

Here's the pic, straight from the auction, of the card



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Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 10:09 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I wanted that Wallace, too. Shoulda stayed home instead of going to a lame Christmas party. Think I only ended up winning one of the cards I had my eye on last night.

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Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 10:12 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

i saw dave's post on the mathewson sgc 30 card (both here and in the net54 board). Searched it and found it...and bid on it three times. I already have that card, but in a PSA 3 holder. Was thinking of downgrading it, saving $50+ bucks but still retaining the eye appeal. Played chicken with the bidding till the very end...just couldnt bid it up anymore because of the wallace card coming up and another card (non T206) that will cost me a pretty penny coming up in the next few days.

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Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 10:27 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

yeah, I just didn't see anyway with my luck that the matty would have crossed over to a 2. nice card though.



Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 10:28 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

At $93 that Wallace was a great buy. Congratulations.



Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 9:12 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

My first Sovereign back:







Date Posted: Dec/19/2006 9:59 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

The Leifield is almost always a great card, but the registration on yours, lamont, is really, really nice.

Picked up these four over the last week or so:









I'm happy to have landed my 10th Hindu, even though the front of the Isbell is a bit marked up. The Thebo's my favorite new addition, though, thanks to the sliver of text at the top. I guess I may be in the minority, but I love miscut T206's.

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2006 2:58 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

steve...are all these raw pickups from ebay???

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2006 3:43 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Thanks for the compliments and congrats on the hindu and AB back. Those are two that have eluded me so far. I hope to get one of each soon.

Here's my first Cycle back thanks to RayB:





Date Posted: Dec/20/2006 6:05 PM
Posted By: MorrellMan (Expert Collector)

That Wallace 3 for $93 has to be the bargain of the day.

I'm used to searching high and low, constantly watching, searching, hoping one card from a set I'm building will pop up. The multitude of T206s available for my purchasing pleasure is just absolutely mind boggling! I feel like a kid in a candystore!

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2006 6:22 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< steve...are all these raw pickups from ebay??? >>



Nah, all low-grade stuff that I deslabbed. I think the best grade was an SGC 30 on the Thebo. The Bresnahan was a 20, Isbell a generous GAI 1.5 and a the Pfiester a lenient PSA 2. (Actually, a 2's probably a better grade than a 1 for it, but I've logged it as "fair" in the Excel file I use to keep track of my stuff.) Assuming it's not actually trimmed, I'm surprised the card didn't get rejected as miscut since you can kinda see how the right edge is uneven.

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2006 7:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)



<< That Wallace 3 for $93 has to be the bargain of the day.

I'm used to searching high and low, constantly watching, searching, hoping one card from a set I'm building will pop up. The multitude of T206s available for my purchasing pleasure is just absolutely mind boggling! I feel like a kid in a candystore!
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I paid $130 for a Wallace 3 at the Reading show a few weeks ago. It's really nice but I think the $93 one is just as nice. I knew I was overpaying but like I said before I wasn't leaving empty handed and that was the best deal I could negotiate.

I agree about the multitude of T206's. That's a big reason I only buy PSA cards (being able to track what I have on the registry is the biggest reason). It allows me to "thin the herd" so to speak. If I bought GAI and SGC cards too I'd be living in a cardboard box.



Date Posted: Dec/21/2006 10:36 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< The multitude of T206s available for my purchasing pleasure is just absolutely mind boggling! I feel like a kid in a candystore! >>



You're right...relative to a lot of other T and E cards, T206 is pretty plentiful. But, let's take a few things into consideration

-The set is the largest pre war set by a very large margin. Even collecting this set at PSA 2 (minus big 4) needs a bit of cash in the bank (for the "average" collector).
-Though there is plenty supply...there is plenty demand....especially in the PSA 3-4-5 territory. I dont know about a lot of collectors here, but i started out collecting 3's and 4's....but have been priced out of that territory. I pursued the wallace PSA 3 because i felt it looked undergraded (based solely on aesthetics).
-There are so many ways to collect T206...it's nearly limitless!!

I respect and understand why collectors dont want to pursue a T206 set (not scarce enough, the set will never really be complete because of the big 4 [unless you have enough money to get these cards]), but like the sirens in the story of odysseus, this iconic set has far too many appealing characterstics (and challenges!) to lure even the more hardened collectors. I'm glad you made the jump. Even though it's one more competitor in the T206 market...it's one more collector to share the pains, challenges and joys of collecting the monster. Hope you find all of us here useful in your endeavors!

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2006 10:38 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< It allows me to "thin the herd" so to speak. If I bought GAI and SGC cards too I'd be living in a cardboard box. >>



I've seen quite a few cases where GAI cards were actually going under average realized auction prices. GAI seems to slipping in the pre war market as their cards were actually pretty strong just a few months ago.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2006 11:24 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

One can get deals on GAI cards, but their grading at the level of cards we all seem to be collecting is easily the most lax. I have no idea how their business is faring, but based on the public perception of their company and its services, I have to wonder if they'll even last.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2006 1:46 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< One can get deals on GAI cards, but their grading at the level of cards we all seem to be collecting is easily the most lax. I have no idea how their business is faring, but based on the public perception of their company and its services, I have to wonder if they'll even last. >>



How true, Unfortunately.

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Date Posted: Dec/22/2006 7:34 AM
Posted By: MorrellMan (Expert Collector)



<<

<< One can get deals on GAI cards, but their grading at the level of cards we all seem to be collecting is easily the most lax. I have no idea how their business is faring, but based on the public perception of their company and its services, I have to wonder if they'll even last. >>



How true, Unfortunately.
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Ditto - GAI cards are maybe one cut above raw. I narrow my field to PSA and SGC.

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Date Posted: Dec/24/2006 4:28 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

lamontcarter that Leifield looks like an oil painting! That is one heck of a nice looking card!


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Date Posted: Dec/24/2006 10:47 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

My Christmas present to myself. Polar Bear back.


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Date Posted: Dec/24/2006 8:07 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

First off happy holidays to all.......just picked thiese up together.....not even at the house yet. Will probably be looking to unload the Shaefer for another portrait that I dont have......soooo if anybody has a portrait dupe or upgrade on their hands and needs the Shaefer...let me know.........both have Piedmont backs Shaefer is 350-460 and Rossman is 350. Solid looking cards for the grades IMO.





Date Posted: Dec/28/2006 11:37 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

a few more that came back....







Date Posted: Dec/28/2006 3:34 PM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)

Has anyone taken advantage of PSA's T206 $3 relabeling special? From what I understand, it ends on 12/31 and I think I'd like to send some in. If so, can someone tell me how I should fill the submission form out?

Mike



Date Posted: Dec/28/2006 6:13 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Two more recent pickups. My first Cycle back on the Atz. Does anyone have any insight as to when the pop reports will appropriately reflect the T206 variety flips?

Mark







Date Posted: Dec/29/2006 6:19 AM
Posted By: mikeschmidt (:-))



<< Has anyone taken advantage of PSA's T206 $3 relabeling special? From what I understand, it ends on 12/31 and I think I'd like to send some in. If so, can someone tell me how I should fill the submission form out?

Mike
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Mike -- I had a bunch of mine relabelled in November. Just put T-206 Relabelling Special in big letters on top of the submission form, and mark it again on the Service Level, under "Other"

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2006 6:45 AM
Posted By: MikeyLikesIt (Veteran)



<<

<< Has anyone taken advantage of PSA's T206 $3 relabeling special? From what I understand, it ends on 12/31 and I think I'd like to send some in. If so, can someone tell me how I should fill the submission form out?

Mike
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Mike -- I had a bunch of mine relabelled in November. Just put T-206 Relabelling Special in big letters on top of the submission form, and mark it again on the Service Level, under "Other"

Marc
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Thanks Marc,

How do you calculate return shipping and insurance?

Mike



Date Posted: Dec/29/2006 11:26 PM
Posted By: Morgoth (Expert Collector)

Ditto on the issue of when can we start registering our T206s with the back variety on the flip. I started a HOF set and 2/3's of the cards I have can't be registered.

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2006 11:58 PM
Posted By: jgarci11 (Senior Member)

I love this topic. the originator of this post Has the passion that this hobby needs!!! He is right on the one important thing! YOU CAN AFFORD IT!!! Spend Spend Spend!! Buy these gems at rock bottom prices right now and hype the heck out of them. Build envy in every one around. That way they know that your stuff is Important, valuable, and dominant!!! Graded T-206's are a joy to hold and represent power in our CollectorUniverse! I would sell any Mantle for any T-206 ANYDAY!!!



Date Posted: Dec/30/2006 7:49 AM
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Date Posted: Dec/30/2006 4:28 PM
Posted By: ArtRossLives (Senior Member)

Wow.

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2006 9:49 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Happy New Year fellow T206 junkies. Here's my last two acquisitions of '06:





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Date Posted: Jan/01/2007 5:07 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

First AB...






Date Posted: Jan/01/2007 6:14 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Keep them coming, guys! Here's my first EPDG back:






Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 3:16 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Well my first HOF that I'll actually keep for the registry. $45....probably the cheapest of any HOFer to get.




Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 4:44 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
Congratulations on the Wallace.
In a PSA 1 there are perhaps 6-12 lower value HOF'ers that will routinely sell in the $45-65 range. It demands a little more patience to get them that cheap is all.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 7:31 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray,
Sounds kind of stupid...I've had HOFers in PSA 5's, a bunch more in 4's that I've sold to gather more money for lower prices purchases...but to finally have the low grade HOF'er specifically for the set (unless of course I find a nice 2 for a good price)...that will remain in the registry it is kind of cool in a weird way. To me yes cards like those that Wabbitwax has been selling that look like 4-6's on the front with minor paper removal on the back are terrific. But I also enjoy the sure enough beater. The Donovan you sold me was actually a favorite of mine....although I did end up unloading it to Trae when I found a Donovan 2 cheap. One of my favorite now in the group is the Jordan portrait I have (should have a pic on my registry)....that I picked up raw for $7, and its a beater.

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Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 8:41 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
The answers simple. You're hooked

I prefer a legitimate PSA 1 with decent eye appeal and an undamged back to the sweet mid grade looking card with back damage. The charm to me is being able to appreciate the whole card; front and back. If that Wallace has no measurable back damage then that's a really nice PSA 1. Once you plug that HOF'er into the set to stay it feels great.
I've personally weeded a few more of the cards with back damage out of my set for that same reason. I'm a little more tolerant of creases and corner rounding I guess.

This is only personal preference though, and I could completely understand folks who build it within their budget who embrace back damage and it doesn't bother them. Those cards display nicely as well.
We all need to find ways to buy cards and keep moving towards our goals.
RayB


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Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 5:26 PM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

Can anyone shed some light on this. I sold these 2 cards tonight:

1909-1911 T206 Bunk Congalton - Carolina Brights

1909-1911 T206 Whitey Alperman

Is there something about that Bunk card? I've sold that card PSA Graded with a Piedmont back and it went for peanuts. I've sold a PSA graded Carolina Brights card before that went for about half that. With it being miscut, I expected about the $15 range for the card. Is it rare or something?

Also, $20 for a trimmed Whitey Alperman. Some common PSA 1's get $10. That one baffles me too but I'm not real familiar with this set.

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Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 5:45 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve,
The Congalton looks like it went for that amount purely on the Carolina Brights back...could be someone putting together an all Carolina set...and not planning on getting it graded or whatever.....they carry a 5x premium anyway.

The Alperman who knows....I do agree that one shouldn't have went that high...always those people though that think they can resubmit something....or maybe think they can get it by GAI even though that one looks obviously trimmed on the bottom.

Dave



Date Posted: Jan/04/2007 6:38 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I could see that Congalton grading elsewhere or even with PSA if someone spun the wheel again. I think $89 is a decent buy for it.

As for the Alperman, how'd you miss that trim, Wabbit?

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2007 2:14 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Steve,

Thanks for the kind words on the net 54 forum. I am planning on sending them in with about 150 other t206s to be graded. I have not decided which company to go with though. Everything I have is Psa but they are giving no love to us pre-war collectors. Never a grading special. Yesterday, I asked about special pricing for a 200 card t206 lot and I was told that that would not qualify for special pricing. Maybe, I need to scrape up another couple of hundred t206s in vg or better shape. Anyone have any spare change???
Another issue is I was told yesterday that my November 7th vintage bulk lot that I mailed out in October will not be posted until late January! 3 months! Sorry to vent.
Anyway, on the Alperman, not all t206s that have odd cuts are trimmed. I have several in my collection that exhibit odd Factory cuts that are not trimmed. I wish I had seen both of those auctions as I would have bid on both of them. I think that was a great price on the Congalton. Carolina Brights are highly desirable.



Date Posted: Jan/05/2007 5:37 AM
Posted By: Wabittwax (Collector)

Wow, great price on the Congalton, I guess it was worth that much if people were willing to go higher on it. Also, I wasn't the person that sent these in, I was selling them for a friend of mine. I would have noticed the trim job. But he sent in a lot of T206's so in was probably just part of the whole stack that was sent in.

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2007 5:45 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

True that there's some funky original cuts out there, but I don't think I've seen one like that on a T206. Either way, though, I think the Alperman would be rejected anywhere as either trimmed or miscut.

But I still can't figure out the rejection of the Congalton. The only issues I can see in the scan are the missing sliver of the nameplate area, which should have resulted in an MC qualifier not a rejection, and perhaps a slightly irregular shape. But I've seen cards much more trapezoidal in PSA 6 holders even. Who knows, maybe they transposed the labels? (Not that that would ever happen.) I had the Congalton tracked and really thought about bidding but I wasn't sure about the bottom edge plus the registration is very slightly off. Still a good price for the winner, though.

And if there's anything you definitely know you're selling, Martin, I'd prefer raw. Makes great sense to sell some to me first to raise some money for your huge submission.

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2007 6:58 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Steve,

You are right, the Congalton did not grade because whole name is not on the card. I had a few of them that did not grade for that reason. I learned my leason the hard way. I think you have to request a qualifier on the submission form. Sgc will grade cards that are miscut that way, although it seems they will take a minimum of three grades off!
If I decide to sell any raw on Ebay, I will email you beforehand. I do have a pretty nice Mathewson Black hat psa 3 and a Young glove showing (which should be back from psa soon, hope will grade a 4) that I will be selling soon.



Date Posted: Jan/05/2007 6:10 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

hope everyone had a great holiday. i was out of town for a week and a half...and a great joe tinker portrait was up for auction that i missed. that's what i get for not keeping a sharp eye out on t206 auctions.



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Date Posted: Jan/06/2007 4:07 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Wow, That's a sweet Tinker.



Date Posted: Jan/07/2007 8:05 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Latest pick ups

Got this one through a trade...has Old Mill back






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Date Posted: Jan/07/2007 8:36 PM
Posted By: Elemenopeo (Expert Collector)

MajorDanby -- That Tinker looks great. What's up with the grade? Is the back torn up?


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Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 10:24 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< MajorDanby -- That Tinker looks great. What's up with the grade? Is the back torn up? >>



Paperloss in the back. Contrary to Ray, I always look for cards with great front eye appeal, but paperloss or writing in the back. These cards are usually downgraded to a 1 or 2. With such a grade conscience hobby, I can get these cards at a great price.

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Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 11:11 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Have to cross them over...and hoping for 2's.





Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 11:43 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

dave....nice hofers. try to get those out of the way, unless you think the market will soften.

BTW, is anyone here interested in forming some sort of email group (e.g. a yahoo group)? Whenever i sell or trade my T206s, i prefer to do it with my fellow T206 collectors from these boards (and net54). I have had positive transactions with both Steve and Ray and would like to continue to sell and especially trade some of my cards as i trudge forward to complete this set. I think it would be great to have an internal email group where each of us can email one another if we have a card to sell or trade. Let me know if anyone is interested in creating such a thing. Of course, it could be a stupid idea...so, let me know either way. thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 12:44 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I'd be all for it. I as well have seemingly done quite a bit lately with Ray, Scott, as well as Trae over on 54. Would kind of be nice when one of us have a dupe or moving up a grade to just hit one click and have the card go to the rest of the group here and kind of first come first serve as to who wants what. I've gotten to the point I'd rather sell to one of they guys lately as opposed to even messing around trying to stick something on ebay.

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Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 1:16 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Major - I'd be in on the email thing. I always offer my T206 dupes privately first anyway trying to avoid additional eBay fees.

Dave - Those SGC 20's have a real shot at 2's and have decent eye appeal, especially the Clarke. The spot of paper loss on the back of the Brown and the lettering perhaps overlapping the edge of the card at the bottom front might push that one into a 1 holder, but regardless they still look pretty nice; and they are portraits - I know that's what you are shooting for first.

RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 2:06 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

great. PM me your emails. I'll start a yahoo group soon. thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 2:51 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Major,
I don't have many dupes right now, but would like to trade as well. Steve (Yawie) can vouch for me. I'll PM my address.

Mark



Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 5:10 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

group started. thanks dave and mark for being the first members!

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Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 7:58 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I apologize for the size of scans here.....pretty excited though with a number of southern leaguers and a common...may end up having to sell one or two to make up for the money for grading though lol










Date Posted: Jan/08/2007 9:27 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Major Danby
I'd love to join the group. PM sent.

Dave
GREAT looking cards, you are on a roll my friend.

Best regards

Scott



Date Posted: Jan/09/2007 1:20 AM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

count me in on the group.

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my t-205's


looking for low grade t205's psa 1-2



Date Posted: Jan/09/2007 5:04 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
Those SL's look great. At all costs I would try to keep those, but if you feel like you have to part with any I might be willing to buy or trade for the ones I need. Keep me in mind.
I am still waiting for a 25 card sub that PSA entered back on Nov. 17th.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/09/2007 9:55 AM
Posted By: 1966CUDA (Collector)

Picked up this one raw recently. Is it true that the mis-cuts kinda' have a cult following? You can read the name at the bottom and it is partial along the top.

-Claude


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Date Posted: Jan/10/2007 4:17 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Claude...Nice card and yes sometimes the oddballs can be kind of fun to pick up...but won't really carry any premium IMO.
I picked up this Chance portrait last night on ebay thanks to Ray pointing it out. In the last two weeks have now picked up four HOF'ers after going a few months with none. Bobby Wallace, Mordecai Brown and Fred Clarke portraits being the others.




Date Posted: Jan/11/2007 9:56 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

invites sent. anyone else?

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Date Posted: Jan/11/2007 11:21 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

How many have joined so far?



Date Posted: Jan/11/2007 11:55 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

not sure. 4-6 i think. i havent been able to access this board in the last few days. so, i sent the invites today.

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Date Posted: Jan/11/2007 12:17 PM
Posted By: mikeschmidt (:-))

I would be very happy to join such a group.

Marc

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I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.



Date Posted: Jan/11/2007 6:45 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Courtesy of Dave (Asphaltman). Thanks again Dave!



A few others I picked up from another collector:




My first Southern Leaguer:



Won this on ebay the other day:





Date Posted: Jan/11/2007 6:51 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I also have uploaded scans to my registry.

Phillys Finest T-206's



Date Posted: Jan/12/2007 2:43 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Scott was that Southern Leaguer off ebay?



Date Posted: Jan/12/2007 6:02 AM
Posted By: mlbvintage (New Member)

I would like to join the group please. Thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/12/2007 7:47 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)



<< Scott was that Southern Leaguer off ebay? >>



Dave
It wasn't, it was from a guy on the Net 54 board.



Date Posted: Jan/12/2007 12:17 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Question for you guys into the rare backs....what would you be willing to pay for a Tinker (bat off shoulder) in a PSA 2 with a rare black lenox back?? I know these backs go for a premium, and there was the common T206 yesterday in a PSA 3 that went for $500 some odd dollard with a black lenox back?



Date Posted: Jan/13/2007 7:28 AM
Posted By: Bunker (Expert Collector)

If you havent been over to net54 lately checkout this post. It is pretty cool:

From Net54

Does anyone here have any to share?

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Date Posted: Jan/14/2007 10:49 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Nice stuff, as always guys! Here's one of my latest pickups:





Date Posted: Jan/14/2007 1:26 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Very nice card gostillers. Congrats.



Date Posted: Jan/14/2007 1:40 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

has everyone gotten their invites to the group? thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/14/2007 5:03 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I did but I want to make sure I know how to use it. Is it basically a group e-mail address that if you have/are looking for a card you can just kick an e-mail to the group?



Date Posted: Jan/14/2007 5:09 PM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

I love my T206 collection. I will probably never come close to completing it, but it has been a joy trying!



Date Posted: Jan/14/2007 6:43 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Is it basically a group e-mail address that if you have/are looking for a card you can just kick an e-mail to the group? >>



Yep. Use it as a tool to facillitate t206 sales and trades.

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2007 12:06 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

My first of '07:



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Date Posted: Jan/15/2007 5:47 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Latest Additions





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Date Posted: Jan/15/2007 10:17 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Steve,
Thats a really nice clean Back on that Hundu. A really nice addition!
Congrats!
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/15/2007 4:59 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Not the Waddell, just the Chase







Date Posted: Jan/15/2007 7:14 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Please stop showing off those Bresnahan portraits. You guys are making me a jealous! Just lost out on another last night.

http://imageevent.com/bengineno9

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Date Posted: Jan/17/2007 1:07 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

How come you guys aren't joining the Yahoo group that Noli set up?



Date Posted: Jan/19/2007 7:25 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Nothing exciting, more to get the thread back to the first page.





Date Posted: Jan/20/2007 1:29 PM
Posted By: mlbvintage (New Member)

Any of you who have not visited my website, please do so:
http://www.t206.org

Thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/21/2007 9:51 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

I have the following for trade. Looking for a comparable PSA 3 (somewhat tougher back) or common PSA 4 back. Thanks, Mark






Date Posted: Jan/21/2007 7:02 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

seriously...did everyone get the invite? Or did you think about it and thought that the group would be not worthwhile to join?



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Date Posted: Jan/21/2007 7:02 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



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Date Posted: Jan/22/2007 3:55 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I do have some cards I'll be offering to the "group members" probably later this week on a first come first serve basis before offering to anyone else...or before throwing to the wolves at ebay



Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 6:11 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

This addition gives me a complete Lajoie subset. PSA 1 with nice eye appeal.



RayB

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Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 7:18 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

That is a really nice Lajoie 1 Ray....I'll be posting my Walter Johnson as well as soon as it gets here...



Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 11:56 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

lajoies are really tough to get at a a reasonable price. I have yet to find a lajoie card with eye appeal at the prices i buy at. It seems he's just one step behind the big HOF'ers (Cobb, johnson, mathewson) and a few steps above the rest (Walsh, Collins, Joss).

I would create another pricing category with guys like evers, tinker and brown...but, it appears lajoie cards go even more than those guys.

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Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 12:08 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

For anyone interested I listed cards over on the other site. I was having trouble getting into yahoo today!



Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 2:40 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Major - You are absolutely right on about the Lajoie cards. Very strong price wise. If you ever find a good deal on a decent card, jump on it.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 5:31 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Nice for a 2 IMO:



Some others:








Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 5:37 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

Nice Turner for a 2. Back damage?



Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 5:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks.

No back damage, I keep looking at it trying to figure out why it's only a 2.



Date Posted: Jan/25/2007 7:24 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

MD,
Sent you a PM asking for an invite. Never heard back. Maybe i'm not cool enough or something.




http://imageevent.com/bengineno9

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 10:47 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Sent you a PM asking for an invite. Never heard back. Maybe i'm not cool enough or something. >>



I did send the invite. I sent an invite to all those who requested to be in the group. And i ask above, twice, if anyone did or did not receive an invite.

I will send all the invites out again, just in case you didnt get one already.

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 11:08 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<<

<< Sent you a PM asking for an invite. Never heard back. Maybe i'm not cool enough or something. >>



I did send the invite. I sent an invite to all those who requested to be in the group. And i ask above, twice, if anyone did or did not receive an invite.

I will send all the invites out again, just in case you didnt get one already.
>>



I think mine may have gone to my Junk Mail originally, so maybe that's why some people didn't get theirs?



Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 12:30 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

I just sent out the invites. Let me know if they dont go through. thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 12:42 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

MD,
Did you do it by PM or email? If it was by email maybe i overlooked it. Didn't find anything in my PM box. I did send you a pm awhile back though. Thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 12:43 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

ben...i sent the invites via email. The email will contain a password to get into the group. let me know if you dont get it. thanks

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 3:55 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Lamont - Real nice group of cards. Those all have killer eye appeal.
Congrats!
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 4:13 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks Ray, I appreciate the kind words.

I've heeded your advice....................eye appeal is the most important thing regardless of the grade. I am absolutely ecstatic about the Waddell (and I think I got a pretty good deal to boot as that card can garner a strong price)

Regards,

Scott



Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 4:15 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

scott...just remember, stay away from the paperloss/MK backed T206s!!! Besides, Ray hates those anyway So, be pure to his advice!

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2007 7:32 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Joined the group today, guys. Also have two new additions. I actually already had both a Mattern and a Konetchy Glove High, but my old Mattern has tape on back (beautiful front, though, if anybody needs one) and I can't resist Hindu backs - especially on St. Louisans.





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Date Posted: Jan/28/2007 8:43 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

My first Johnson...can't get much happier...(unless I add a Matty)...also another solid looking PSA 1 from the same deal.





Date Posted: Jan/28/2007 12:05 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Congratulations on your Big Train pickup, it's really nice looking. The three cards that I want really bad from this set are a Chase Pink Portrait, Evers Portrait and that card. Congrats again.

A couple commons but with nice stories. I picked up this Doyle off of Beckett for $25! The guy listed the cert # and was very responsive to e-mails which alleviated some of my concerns about getting scammed. I paid through paypal so I wasn't all that worried especially given the amount of money involved. The card arrived Saturday, it's nice to get a "deal" every now and then.



Bought this card off ebay for $26, no mention in the auction of what kind of back it was and much to my surprise it's a nice clean Old Mill.






Date Posted: Jan/28/2007 1:29 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave - Great looking Johnson!!

Lamont - Nice deal on nice cards as well; especially a PSA 4 for that price.
RayB

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Date Posted: Jan/28/2007 4:07 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That Doyle looks like a horrible 4, but the card itself is still a decent buy for $25. And it's always nice to receive a card whose non-Piedmont/non-Sweet Caporal back is an unexpected surprise. Ya done good.

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Date Posted: Jan/28/2007 5:54 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks for the comments guys. Next question is which one to go after next...Matty portrait or Ty Cobb (red)?



Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 1:43 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

My humble T206 set officially went 50% complete today!!

It's been an incredible journey which I wouldn't trade for anything. Thanks all for carrying the torch of this thread forward, and for the encouragement along the way. On to the much tougher half



My T206 set

Thanks.
RayB

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Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 4:24 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Ray
All I can say is wow and congratulations. I think I'm at a little under 10% right now. You have an impressive collection.

Steve
Thanks for the kind words. The Doyle is pretty presentable but I agree that it might be a tad overgraded, however I've seen 4's that are worse.

I just picked up this Gibson. I think it might be my favorite card as of right now. Not sure why but I think the image is cool.



Thanks.

Scott

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Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 6:44 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

The Gibson is indeed a great card. Actually, a lot of his cards are. He's got some cool E cards in catching gear.

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Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 7:38 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

My latest additions to the registry....

This one has an MK....light pencil mark at the top....shoot, could have easily been erased before being submitted...lol At any rate...$47.


This one in the end cost me $15.50....


A pair of the southern leaguers I had sent in...these two I'm keeping and not selling...





Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 7:49 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Nice pickups!

What does it cost to get a T206 graded? I haven't gone the raw route yet and was thinking about it. When you factor in grading fees do you get some decent buys on raw?



Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 8:34 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Scott...I generally submit cards under the Set Registry Special...its $13 a card plus shipping...I send maybe 6-8 cards at one..nothing huge. Shipping for the whole lot comes to about another $15. So for the 7 cards I sent in this time, it cost like $105 I think. That paid for itself with one of the Southern Leaguers in a PSA 3 I sold.

These were the two that came back 3's by the way...keep in mind I got all the Southern Leaguers for about $15 each raw...so a decent deal. These two paid for this submission and the next one I'll have going out.


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Date Posted: Jan/29/2007 8:37 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

The big thing Scott with going the raw route to remember...and I'm still getting beat now and then, is trimmed cards. Some really seem to measure correctly...but not good enough in the graders eyes. I think if your going to buy raw on a big purchase...ie, a Matty or Speaker or whatever..make sure the seller will take the card back if it doesnt grade.

Ray probably has more advice with this though.



Date Posted: Jan/30/2007 7:43 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave - Good points about raw cards. If a card looks VG or VG/EX and has dynamite corners it might be a reason to be leary. Due diligence is important. Do you trust the seller? Good feedback on vintage and prewar cards in the past? If a seller usually sells used DVD's and all of a sudden has a couple of T206's, be leary. If a card seems a little smallish, be leary. Lastly, if it looks too good to be true for the price; it probably is.
Believe it or not, eye appeal counts with the graders. If a lower grade example is centered, displays nicely with minor flaws, it may end up in a better holder than you would ordinarily think. Look to approach cards from that direction.

Guys - I have listed some T206's for sale over on the "Vintage Sportscard Trading" Board. The only fair way to give everybody a shot.
Best of Luck; I will field buy requests on a first come, first serve basis.
RayB

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Date Posted: Jan/31/2007 5:01 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Guys.....opinions needed. I picked this Southern Leaguer up on ebay, its an SGC 60....I haven't got it yet so all I have is the sellers scan which isn't great..but, anyone think this would cross over to a PSA 5? If not I'll probably just try selling it off again. I thought it was a deal though...southern leaguers SGC 60 for $205. Seems most go for double that if I'm not wrong....





Date Posted: Jan/31/2007 5:09 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
That card looks very strong. I would crack it out and expect a 5. SGC has always crossed well for me. Just my opinion and limited crossing experience.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Jan/31/2007 5:12 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray....I'm pretty scared to crack it out thinking it will come back a 4 with my luck...you don't think sending in as is they will cross it if I put down a minimum grade of 5 or nothing? It has an Old Mill back by the way



Date Posted: Jan/31/2007 5:54 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Your way is quite safe....and it is likely to cross just fine.

The scan is indeed weak but if you believe the card is a strong 5 when you see it in person then crack it out and on a good day there's a slight chance it could 6. That would be a Home Run with this card.
The downgrade possibilty always exists, but again, judge the card.
After all, an expert (SGC) in the field of grading has already told you it is a 5.

If this were any other grading company I don't think I would take the chance.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Feb/02/2007 10:08 PM
Posted By: Morgoth (Expert Collector)

Interesting card I found on E-bay. Thought you guys might enjoy part of Warren's collection. Seriously how did this get through.
Warren's T-206 Tinker Portrait

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2007 6:26 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Who knows..almost looked like writing on the slab...I dont see otherwise how it would have got past PSA



Date Posted: Feb/03/2007 9:52 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I don't have a ton of experience cracking and crossing, but my SGC cards always stayed the same or got a slight bump with PSA. Heck, the grading of that Tinker should allay your fears. If a card with not-exactly-subtle writing on back gets a 4 NQ, your SL'er is probably a 7 or 8.


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Date Posted: Feb/03/2007 1:45 PM
Posted By: Morgoth (Expert Collector)

I asked the owner if the writing was on the card and he said it was.

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Date Posted: Feb/05/2007 5:56 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ok guys...opinions please...I have this for sale..but in case it doesn't go I'm probably sending to PSA.....anyone think it would bring a 5?





Date Posted: Feb/05/2007 6:36 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
It looks pretty solid. Graded accurately by SGC.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Feb/05/2007 7:57 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Looks like a real nice buy. Nice centering, no creasing, the desired SLer back. I say crack it and give it a whirl if you don't move it. At worst I think it's a 4 and at your price you'll still make some money I think.

Congrats.

Scott



Date Posted: Feb/12/2007 8:10 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Knowing there are a lot of low grade T206 collectors here with us on this thread I thought I would refer you guys to the Vintage Trading Board. I'm selling this Walter Johnson PSA 1 MK.



Back is a Sweet Caporal; Series 150, Factory 649 (Somewhat rare), District 1 State NY
Some light pencil on back but all red text is clear.


$225 delivered. This is sort of an entry level way to get one of the more expensive cards in the set. Still not bad looking.
PM or email at [email protected] if you are interested.

Thanks for letting me spam this here to you guys.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Feb/14/2007 12:10 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Anybody else feel like there is hardly any low grade T206's up for auction on ebay the past few weeks...I haven't picked up anything. Looks like SGC cards though are all over the place..man this is depressing.

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Date Posted: Feb/14/2007 2:23 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)







Date Posted: Feb/15/2007 8:41 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked up both of these last night...have to decide if either of these are worth crossing over as well....





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Date Posted: Feb/15/2007 8:58 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Nice cards.......you're going high end on me!

Won these tonight:







Date Posted: Feb/15/2007 9:59 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

You're on fire, man. I bid on that Phelps and maybe on that Wilhelm, too. Nice cards. And the image on the Waddell portrait looks great.

What's the going rate on SGC 60 SL'ers vs. PSA 5's? Is there that much incentive to cross from SGC to PSA? Unless you think you have a chance at a bump, I'm guessing it's not really worth it.

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Date Posted: Feb/16/2007 3:58 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve the Southern Leaguers in SGC 60 can go for as much as the PSA 5's....but it is harder. It's a smaller group of registry guys with SGC so the competition isn't there like it is for PSA 5's. They just have to be "marketed" to the right guys. Otherwise it's a matter of again hoping these two cards can cross into 5 holders. The Lentz is probably more of a longshot....I'm not in love with the centering on it either.



Date Posted: Feb/16/2007 4:00 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Scott.....your the one on the roll my friend. I've still yet to get any additional cards for the registry, other than a nice upgrade on Unglaub from RayB.



Date Posted: Feb/16/2007 11:15 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Havent posted here in awhile.

Im too lazy to scan. Stole off ebay. It's the bottom right.





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Date Posted: Feb/16/2007 7:25 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks for the kind words Steve and Dave.

Love that card Major.....one of the cooler looking ones in the set IMO, congrats.



Date Posted: Feb/17/2007 12:57 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Bad scan in the auction so I was pleasantly surprised when it arrived. Solid 2 with no creases.





Date Posted: Feb/17/2007 1:17 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Yup, That was the one I had bid on as well....good example of how to make a cheaper pickup due to poor scans



Date Posted: Feb/18/2007 10:00 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

This one's nothing to write home about, though I love its color and registration:



And I might have to submit this one just to preserve it in one piece, but I'm still jazzed to add another Hindu St. Louisan:



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Date Posted: Feb/21/2007 5:42 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Congrats on another Hindu........still looking for my first.

Major
After I saw yours I had to pick one up:





Date Posted: Feb/21/2007 5:50 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)




First pick up in awhile. But it is a HOFer with a stamp on the back.


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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Feb/21/2007 7:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

That Chesbro presents really well...congrats.



Date Posted: Feb/21/2007 9:03 PM
Posted By: buddyholly (Member)

Oh man, I hate all you guys...you're gonna send me to the poorhouse!!

Seriously great thread. I've always wanted to own a few T206s and finally got inspired. Picked up a Birdie Cree PSA 3 few nights ago. Can't wait to receive it. I've fought to avoid thinking about this set, but it is just too damn beautiful. You guys should be used car salesmen!! Hooking another poor junkie into your sick tobacco world!! Ha ha.

I will focus mostly on just the Highlander players to start....gotta start somewhere. That Chesbro looks brilliant to me...damn fine pitcher & picture!

I'm already looking (again) around the house for stuff to sell to buy a few more cards....I have REALLY enjoyed seeing all the great scans and info. Keep up the great posts and as always,

Happy Collecting!

Shawn

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55 Topps - 26.7% / 5.91 / #67 cf
hey! I'm workin' on it !



Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 2:36 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Shawn congrats on your first T206 pickup. Although I had a few T206's before, I started trying to solely collect for the set this past August. It's been great fun trying to make the little pickups here and there and seeing your set slowly starting to take on some sort of shape. I'm still nowhere close to these other guys, I think I"m up to about 8% of the set...that includes raw cards not yet graded. Anyway if you ever need any help with anything let me or for that matter any of these guys know....they are all mostly good guys (unless one of them beats you out on a T206 Jennings portrait in a PSA 2 for $85....ha ha



Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 6:20 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Guess I caught the bug again. This card presents well even with the pin hole.
I think $65 for HOFer is a steal. What do you think Dave? I'm surprised Ray
didn't snatch this one up.



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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 6:37 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Joe, nice pickup. Had it been $65 for that same Joss in a PSA holder I would have jumped on it. I don't mind a pinhole near as much as creases all over the place.



Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 7:09 AM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)

Joe, nice Chesbro! You mentioned the back had a stamp...what kind of stamp is it? Toy town?



Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 7:33 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

My latest two pickups. The Unglaub thanks to Ray, the Ames has a Sovereign 350 back.






Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 9:29 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

King, No its a Baker. I have seen a few with his name on it. Kinda like the
idea that his name will be mixed with T206's for it's history.


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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 10:25 AM
Posted By: Krems (Senior Member)

After following this thread for a while, I think I going to have to jump in myself. I'm trying to refocuss my collecting after realizing how many boxes of 1970's and 1980's stuff I have to move around.

I love the scans...hopefully I'll have a few myself in the next week or so. Probably focus mostly on PSA 1's and 2's with a few 3's and 4's sprinkled in.

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Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 10:49 AM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)



<< King, No its a Baker. I have seen a few with his name on it. Kinda like the
idea that his name will be mixed with T206's for it's history.
>>



Joe, that's an interesting idea. If I could go back in time knowing that I could collect the T206s, but could not cash in on the profit since I'd likely be dead before the 50s, I'd be happy to stamp my name over as many cards as possible so my name would live on with the T206 set. No better way to outlive yourself than that!



Date Posted: Feb/22/2007 5:04 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Joe,
Thats a great looking Joss! Dave's right. Sometimes just a pin hole leaves you with a card that otherwise presents nicely in a 1 holder.
That cards at least a 3 otherwise.

King - Your name lives on in my book. Maybe I'll stamp a card "King" just for fun! Stay tuned!
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Feb/24/2007 2:09 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

My first T206.



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Date Posted: Feb/24/2007 2:25 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Blackborder..congrats...it doesn't take much to get hooked...



Date Posted: Feb/24/2007 5:27 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Very nice, Blackborder. Good luck with your endeavor!



Date Posted: Feb/24/2007 8:03 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Latest to arrive at the house, from RayB





Date Posted: Feb/24/2007 11:54 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

This has always been one of my favorite cards in the set and I'm so happy to have one now.



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Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 10:40 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<< Blackborder..congrats...it doesn't take much to get hooked... >>





<< Very nice, Blackborder. Good luck with your endeavor! >>





Thanks. I thought it might be neat to put together 150 actual "subjects" from the 150 Piedmont series. Since there are actually 155 in the series, you could ignore the Wagner, Plank, and a couple others and still have a "complete" set.

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Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 12:00 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Congrads on the pick ups guys. Everyday it gets tougher and tougher
to win cards because we bring aboard so many new collectors. But, It's
great we can generate interest in such a great set. Welcome aboard guys.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 12:03 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<<

<< King, No its a Baker. I have seen a few with his name on it. Kinda like the
idea that his name will be mixed with T206's for it's history.
>>



Joe, that's an interesting idea. If I could go back in time knowing that I could collect the T206s, but could not cash in on the profit since I'd likely be dead before the 50s, I'd be happy to stamp my name over as many cards as possible so my name would live on with the T206 set. No better way to outlive yourself than that!
>>



King, We could still do it with some PSA 1's. No loss in value and your name will come up on message boards 60 years from now.
Title of the Thread, "How many Kings do you have? None. Go fish!

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 1:04 PM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)



<<
King, We could still do it with some PSA 1's. No loss in value and your name will come up on message boards 60 years from now.
Title of the Thread, "How many Kings do you have? None. Go fish!
>>



Lol, that's a fun idea. I'd probably do it with SGC 10 cards though, because they can't go lower than SGC 10 even with a mark. Downgrading a PSA 1 to a PSA 1MK would be tough





Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 5:18 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

One of my goals for this year was to obtain one of big 3 HOFers portraits that
I lack for my set. I needed a Johnson, Young or a Matty to complete that goal.
Well here it is Feburary and my goal has been reached. My set is a mid grade
set that has marks or miscuts, but focuses on eye appeal. I've picked up 3 HOFers
this month that I think stay with this goal. (See previous page for the other 2).
without further ado, Heeeeereesss Johnnnnnny!!!!


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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 6:38 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nice score, Joe. I thought that looked really nice for a 1. In fact, I was either the 1st or 2nd underbidder. I already have a raw one in g+/vg- condition but was willing to downgrade since your soon-to-be new one appears pretty nice at maybe 60 percent of what mine would likely go for.

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Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 6:59 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Congrats on the Johnson Joe....which back is on it?



Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 7:03 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Nice card Joe....I thought I was going to get it at $225!



Date Posted: Feb/25/2007 7:56 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Dave, It's a Piedmont 150 back.

I'm always elated to obtain a new card in my set, but also feel
bad that I have to outbid my friends for it. I have looked for
this card for 2 years and finally found won that I am confident
I will be happy with in this grade. My original snipe was $225.00
but saw it climbed to $222 with 2 hours to go. I made up my mind
that $255 was my limit, and still wouldn't win it. Was very happy to see
that I did and am comfortable with the price. 3 HOfer's in 1
month was a huge addition to my set. It stands at 30 HOFer's
and 133 cards. I picked up all 3 for less than $400.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/26/2007 5:37 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Joe,
Nice! That is a really great PSA 1. I would've been proud to plug that one in my set as well.
Way to go.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Feb/26/2007 8:01 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice cards, everyone...especially yours, joe. Wonderful looking PSA 1! Here is my latest



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Date Posted: Feb/28/2007 6:51 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

I finally got off my lazy butt and scanned my T206 collection minus 20 or so raw cards. My scanner and my scanning ability leaves alot to be desired, but its up and please feel free to take a look at it . The set is mid to low grade, but I picked cards with nice eye appeal and minimal
creases. Feedback welcome and enjoy. Joe

My T206 Collection

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>



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Date Posted: Feb/28/2007 6:57 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Speaking of stamped T206 backs, I now have 2 backs with the stamp, "Baker 1318 Mosbey St. Does anyone have any more Bakers? Do any of the old timers around here ever remember having this collection whole or it being sold? Just curious to know more about him and how big his collection was. My 2 are NY Highlanders. Maybe he was a N.Y. fan? Feedback welcome?

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Feb/28/2007 8:13 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Some nice cards in there Joe...and yes, your scanning ability I won't comment on



Date Posted: Mar/01/2007 5:35 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked this up last night on the bay. With the picture they had, it ended up going for the price of a PSA 1. After looking at the pic though, does anyone else think there is like a marker that has been traced around the slab??





Date Posted: Mar/02/2007 4:59 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

picked up these two.





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Date Posted: Mar/02/2007 6:05 PM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)

Woa, nice cards! Tell me the back has massive paper loss please! Otherwise I'm wasing my money on SGC 50s.



Date Posted: Mar/02/2007 11:35 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Greetings to all on this thread.

Ive been a lurker here for some time now and after many years of collecting ( 10 or so yrs of serious collecting in my youth followed by a 13 or so yr hiatus before returning to the hobby in 2002 ) I finally decided to join the party and purchase my first T206 cards.

I am already hooked on this amazing set and cant wait to learn as much as I can from anyone and everyone. So many of you have a wealth of knowledge when dealing with this issue and many are superb with your eagerness to help out a newbie to this set.

These are the first 8 cards I have picked up, all in the past couple of weeks.









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Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 1:26 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Bri

Welcome aboard! I'm glad that there are a number of individuals announcing their intention to collect the monster. It's a challenging set to collect. a lot of people will say it is one of the easiest pre war sets to collect. dont believe them. The set is in high demand and lower grade cards can go for a lot more than you think. Add the fact that one can collect this set in so many ways and you get quite a challenge. But, it's a fun set to collect with a large community that is willing to give support. Keep posting your questions and recent purchases!

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Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 1:28 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Woa, nice cards! Tell me the back has massive paper loss please! Otherwise I'm wasing my money on SGC 50s. >>



thanks. Backs have tape residue. I'm all about fantastic fronts with back damage.

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Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 10:49 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Major, Those are some sweet cards. I agree with you. How often do we sit and
stare at the backs? Congrads on that Johnson. That is one of the nicest cards I've seen in any grade.

Bri, Welcome to the mad house we call the Monster. You have made a nice dent in the set with
some fine pick ups. now just stay away from the low grade portraits for awhile.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 10:53 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Dave, I can't tell what grade that is, and it does look like magic marker.
Maybe he used permatex to reseal the case.

Bri, If I can help you in anyway, just e-mail me. The T206
community has a ton of tools at our disposal. Joe

I almost had we and us in that post so often we though we
were becoming the Dorfman twins. (Inside joke)

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 7:03 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Joe,

Thanks for the kind words and offering your help.

That is a real nice Johnson you picked up. Is it the one with the pinhole in it ? If so I had a snipe set on it that didnt go off for some reason.

Either way its a great looking card for a PSA 1

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Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 7:09 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Number 2 arrived this week.



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Date Posted: Mar/03/2007 7:56 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Latest two additions...it continues to be a slow last couple weeks....





Date Posted: Mar/04/2007 9:56 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< Joe,

Thanks for the kind words and offering your help.

That is a real nice Johnson you picked up. Is it the one with the pinhole in it ? If so I had a snipe set on it that didnt go off for some reason.

Either way its a great looking card for a PSA 1
>>



Bri, It is the one with the pin holes. It was the best looking I could afford at this time
and have wanted 1 for 2 years. If I every decide to upgrade, that card will be a nice
addition to someone elses collection. I haven't received it yet, but I'm hoping the pin
hole is the mark we see near his right ear. Thanks and good luck on the set. Joe

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Mar/04/2007 9:57 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

blackboarder, Nice O'Leary. Unless I can't see a big crease, that has a good shot at a 4. Nice pick up.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Mar/05/2007 12:29 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked this one up today on Ebay...





Date Posted: Mar/05/2007 1:44 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
Thats a really nice AB!
Ray

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Mar/05/2007 1:54 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Stop it Dave. I'm just gonna have to buy another!!..Nice card.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Mar/05/2007 1:56 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Stop it Dave...ok, that was kinda funny



Date Posted: Mar/06/2007 5:40 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Wow, someone just added a Honus to the Registry. Is he a member of the boards?

Fight4OldDC



Date Posted: Mar/06/2007 5:51 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

My latest addition to my set. Piedmont 350 back:



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Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 4:19 AM
Posted By: Twinsthreepeat (Senior Member)

Hello,
Been qutie awhile since I posted on this thread. Thought I would give you all an update on my Millers/apostles sets. I now have 40 of the 350 different back combos. My latest pick up was this collins bright's back. Sure it has a hole in it. but still a tough card (HOFer).







Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 5:35 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Twins, You bet its a tuffy. Nice pick up.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 5:44 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

This is on the way to you this morning Joe. Thought I'd go ahead and post it since your scanning ability needs fine tuning...






Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 6:52 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked this up this morning...my first Chase for my registry.





Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 7:38 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

PSA 4. Nice centering and color. You gonna keep that one or look to downgrade at some point?

The Chase Blue Portrait and dark Cap are two of the most reasonable star cards in the set.
RayB

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Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!



Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 8:10 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray....Never know... I may end up downgrading to a respectable looking PSA 2 or something if it frees up money or brings in a couple extra cards. More than likely the only way I'll ever get anywhere with this set is settle for the lowest grade possible with decent looking images...spend the next ten years putting it together than worry about "upgrading" after that.



Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 8:36 AM
Posted By: Archaninator (Veteran)

delete

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Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 10:20 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Wow...a nice job on the Myers. I would probably want to try and cross it over. But I'd be sure to put down on submission form a minimum of 8 or else don't cross it. You wouldn't want to have it come back a 7. As far as what it would be worth..my guess would be anywhere from $2,500-$3500. I'm curious how did you come about the card? And what did you pay for it raw?



Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 11:15 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

A couple more pickups on a busy morning. These will be tradebait...if any of you guys need either and don't mind SGC cards...Would do $38 for either paypal...both have Piedmont backs






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Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 2:30 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Nice job buddy.....Love that Chase!

It's been awhile for me:

Picked this up pretty cheap because the auction had no scan. Pleasantly surprised:




My first Tolstoi back thanks to our friend RayB. Thanks again Ray!






Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 9:08 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Nice looking duffy for a 2....these all arrived today...all are Piedmont backs








Date Posted: Mar/09/2007 9:37 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Damn that O'Leary is sweet!



Date Posted: Mar/10/2007 7:39 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

hey t206 board, I've been picking up a few of these in real low grades lately, including the one pictured - this came in a lot from ebay. They we in a padded envelope with no other protection, and all 5 have some frosting around the edges, 2 have cracks in the exact same spot along the right edge. The card looks ok to you all, right? I checked the sellers feedback and he had purcased these cards individually in December and January. No one goes to the trouble to crack and replace PSA 1 commons, do they? I can scan the rest if anyone wants/need to see more...
Thanks in advance, Josh








Date Posted: Mar/10/2007 9:12 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Josh
Card looks fine to me.....as a matter of fact that's a real nice looking 1.



Date Posted: Mar/10/2007 9:24 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

tx LC - these were the others in the lot - you xan see the crack on the right side of the Herzog and the Smith - maybe the slabs had a bunch of weight on them in the mail...



Date Posted: Mar/11/2007 7:49 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< Damn that O'Leary is sweet! >>



Yeah it is. I think I'd be even more excited about the unique color than the condition. That card typically has a much redder background. I don't know that color variations command a huge premium, but I definitely like 'em.

Don't sweat it, jlb. A lot of slabs come straight from PSA with minor flaws like that. Makes it easier to liberate the cardboard inside.

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Date Posted: Mar/11/2007 8:49 AM
Posted By: Krems (Senior Member)

Speaking of holders, every once in a while I notice a SGC graded card that does not fit snuggly in the holder while most do. Are some of the cards a little shorter than others or is their a difference in the insert in the holder?

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Date Posted: Mar/11/2007 9:08 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I'm hardly an expert as I've never submitted to SGC - am kinda thinking about crossing my few PSA cards over, though - but I'm assuming that most of their gaskets are a standard size. However, the cards themselves - especially prewar stuff like T206's - have quite a bit of size variability, which is probably why you sometimes see space in their holders. For more unusual issues, I think SGC will cut the black inserts to provide a custom fit.

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Date Posted: Mar/11/2007 8:16 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Those are some nice looking portraits. Any recommendations for a cheap/good scanner that can improve the scans on my cards that are slabbed? That flatbead just isn't cutting it, works great for the ungraded though. As you can see.



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Date Posted: Mar/11/2007 8:21 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I'm by no means a technical person...and can't even off the top of my head think of the kind of scanner my wife owns that I use..but what I found started working best for me was as soon as I scanned the card and it asked to accept or scan again, I would hit the scan "more detailed" button...seemed like after that it really started getting more defined with the scans.



Date Posted: Mar/12/2007 8:47 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

This one will be headed to the house in the next few days...





Date Posted: Mar/12/2007 11:37 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,

Lenox Back; wow! Don't even have one of those myself.

RayB

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Date Posted: Mar/14/2007 2:59 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks Ray....I'm excited about it. I would like to have one of each of the backs eventually.



Date Posted: Mar/16/2007 4:26 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Here are the latest packages to arrive at the house...I'm anxiously awaiting the Lenox back!

The Hart unfortunately won't remain in my collection....off to the bay with it.
The Fiene I'm really happy with...first AB for my set registry
The Congalton has pretty good eye appeal for a PSA 3







Date Posted: Mar/16/2007 5:03 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)




Does anyone know what the stamp or mark is on the back of this card??



Date Posted: Mar/16/2007 5:05 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I've seen the stamp before. So in all likelihood it was probably some old timer's way of putting his signature on his collection. I remember that card on ebay...really nice price for a PSA 3 ( I think it was a 3)...and all because of that stamp. Card is very presentable for the grade.



Date Posted: Mar/16/2007 7:22 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< I've seen the stamp before. So in all likelihood it was probably some old timer's way of putting his signature on his collection. I remember that card on ebay...really nice price for a PSA 3 ( I think it was a 3)...and all because of that stamp. Card is very presentable for the grade. >>



Thanks for the help!!



Date Posted: Mar/18/2007 11:31 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

added another hall of famer for $100 bucks...



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Date Posted: Mar/22/2007 6:15 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Both of these finally arrived today.






Date Posted: Mar/23/2007 8:25 PM
Posted By: Krems (Senior Member)

I'm finally on the T206 board. My Matty just popped today:

1 04604702 1911 PIEDMONT CHRISTY MATHEWSON WHITE CAP 2

I'll post a pic when I get it.




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Date Posted: Mar/23/2007 11:04 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

This card really strikes me, so I'm happy to have one now. It is only my 2nd HOFer in this set.




Doug



Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 6:26 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Doug
Congrats on the Matty.

A few additions:









Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 6:57 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Wow, some really nice additions the last week or so from everyone !

Here are the 6 I picked up this past week or so, all are Piedmont backs except the Ames which is a Sweet Caporal.








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Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 7:53 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Bri
Nice pick ups. Love that Dougherty......have to get me one of those.



Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 8:59 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Thanks LC !

I do love the contrast of the white Chicago over the dark blue uni's on the Dougherty. It looks striking and a perfect example is that Doc White card of yours ( which is an awesome looking PSA 4 BTW )

I also love that Chase you picked up. Ive been looking for one but havnt found something that nice in my price range yet.

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Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 10:40 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I've been meaning to tell you, Dave, that Lenox Herzog is awesome. I actually think there's something geometrically mesmerizing about the creases. If you're ever thinkin' of getting rid of it...

And, bri and lamont, so many great cards in your previous posts.

I'm still waiting on my big Huggins & Scott win, but did get some nice cards in the mail this week. These two look so much better than their SGC 30's, though the grades were probably fair - maybe a bit harsh on Clarke, which has a faint scratch. The Howell is simply miscut, which I actually like.




And Hindu No. 14 plus a crisp portrait of one of my favorite players in the set:




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Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 10:47 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Yawie, real nice cards. I love that Bergen.

Also, I notice on the Howell where the name is cut off on the bottom it appears on the top. Is that how it worked with these cards ? What I mean is, were they always cut in strips with the same card in a strip one after another like that one obviously was ?

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Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 11:02 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I think so. I'd have to search on N54 for some posts from the set's serious scholars or maybe go back and read Scot Reader's e-book, but every top-bottom miscut I've seen has been of the same player.

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Date Posted: Mar/24/2007 11:08 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Very interesting to find that out.

See, miscut cards can be not only very attractive, but informative too !

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Date Posted: Mar/25/2007 4:15 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve, Thanks. I know your the king here of picking up the rare backs. I had to do the BIN on the Lenox or else you would have probably swooped in on it...lol



Date Posted: Mar/25/2007 4:33 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I love that PSA 2 Joss, Scott. Looks like everyone is picking things up as far as buying in the last week or so.



Date Posted: Mar/26/2007 7:14 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Another awesome Hindu! Congrats.

Picked these up tonight for what I think are very reasonable prices. Both have nice Soverign backs:

Scott





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Date Posted: Mar/26/2007 9:27 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks Scott. I owe it to this thread for getting me fired up enough to go after the Matty. So, thanks everyone, I think...


Doug



Date Posted: Mar/27/2007 1:46 AM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Scott,

I love those horizontal cards, nice pickups.

BTW, mind if I ask what type of scanner you use ? Mine is on its way out and its time for a new one. Your scans look great, Id like to check out whatever brand you use.

Doug,

That Mathewson looks great. Superb centering and appeal for a PSA 3.

Whose the other HOF in your collection ?

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Date Posted: Mar/27/2007 3:54 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

The latest raw addition. No creases or marks. I'd love it to get a PSA 3, but I'm pretty sure with the paperloss on the back a PSA 2 is coming my way. Anyhow...good example of going after cards with strong eye appeal and minor issues to the back...I'm sure RayB would agree with me on that.





Date Posted: Mar/27/2007 1:12 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Just picked up this Tolstoi back off ebay...





Date Posted: Mar/27/2007 6:36 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

As always, nice stuff guys! Here are two that I received today:





Date Posted: Mar/27/2007 6:53 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)



<< Scott,

I love those horizontal cards, nice pickups.

BTW, mind if I ask what type of scanner you use ? Mine is on its way out and its time for a new one. Your scans look great, Id like to check out whatever brand you use.

Doug,

That Mathewson looks great. Superb centering and appeal for a PSA 3.

Whose the other HOF in your collection ?
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Brian
Those scans were from the auction. My scanner isn't nearly as good.



Date Posted: Mar/27/2007 9:39 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here's my other HOFer. It's certainly far from a Matty, but nice.




Doug



Date Posted: Mar/28/2007 5:35 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

picked these up raw at a local show last week -







80 bucks for the lot - any thoughts on the deal?



Date Posted: Mar/28/2007 5:50 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

$80 is not a bad deal for the lot. I also think Tolstoi backs are under appreciated and under valued so any time you can pick those up I would.



Date Posted: Mar/28/2007 9:19 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Yeah, I think that's a nice lot for $80. The Egan and Hofman have especially crisp images - even if Egan is the ugliest dude in the set.

My big H&S win arrived yesterday. I'm pretty stoked to now have both of the tough St. Louis variations. On one hand I probably overpaid for this relative to other 1's, but I also think it's a lot nicer looking than most 1's. Even better than the SGC 20 that sold on eBay the other day.



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Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 6:52 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve, terrific card. I'm just wondering why it's not in a PSA 2 holder.



Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 7:36 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Nice Demmitt, Steve. What condition would you classify your O'Hara?



Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 9:07 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Steve, Great pick up. When you gonna crack it out and send it to me as a surprise gift?

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Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 5:52 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Thanks, fellas, but I must say that some doubts about the card are starting to creep in. It really does have the eye appeal of a 2, though I suppose the horizontal wrinkle at the left edge is pretty substantial:



What worries me - and this is coming from one who views tobacco staining on Polar Bears as a beautiful badge of authenticity - is that the front of the card is much cleaner than the back. I suppose that's possible on an unaltered - and I'm using "altered" in the very broadest sense - Polar Bear, but at the very least, I'm guessing this card has been given a bath. While I don't necessarily have a problem with soaking cards in distilled water to remove them from a scrapbook or whatnot, I am a Polar Bear purist who actually would've preferred this card with some tobacco staining. Oh well, I just hope any possible bath wasn't a bubble bath, so to speak.

Oh yeah, I'd say my O'Hara is in good condition, as in 30/2:



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Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 6:46 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Guys,
It can not be understated just how rare it is to manage to get both of these cards in a St. Louie variation.

Steve,
You brought the heavy lumber to the plate with those acquisitions. Gutsy plays on both. You are certainly right to think that both of these are outstanding low grade examples. Especially the Demmitt considering the few that have been offered over the last year have been hideous.
The O'Hara is special; nice and white and clean.
My heartiest congrats.
RayB.

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Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 7:06 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Thanks, Ray! I hope I'm just being paranoid about the Demmitt. I guess when one makes such a substantial purchase, he's going to hold it up to much greater scrutiny than he would a Frank Laporte. But I've been sitting here ogling it all night and it really is a pretty card. There are some additional wrinkles that don't really show up in the scan, but it's much nicer than what I figured I'd be able to land. The only bummer is that I'm probably tapped out for awhile, but at least I'm doing a decent job of sticking with my strategy of saving up for big-time T206's this year instead of just adding a bunch of bulk.


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Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 7:56 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Over the time frame that you guys have been collecting T206, what variation have you seen the most/least? Magie, Demmitt, or O'Hara? I'm assuming Magie has appeared the least by a landslide, but I just wanted to get everyone's opinion what would be next.

Mark



Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 8:03 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

From my own memory over the past year or so....I can only recall maybe 2 Magie's in that time? At least on eBay. Demmitt has seemed to creep up a few times over the past year, but as Ray said, most of those have been pretty darn ugly. IMO, the O'Hara is probably a little harder to come by than the Demmitt...but that's open to debate.



Date Posted: Mar/29/2007 11:57 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice additions, everyone...especially you steve. I actually bid on that demmitt sgc 20 you speak of. A little too expensive for a not so aesthetically pleasing condition.

and the magie card is a lot more difficult to acquire than either the demmitt or ohara. very rarely do magie's go on ebay...auction houses or private transactions are usually the only way to get them.

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Date Posted: Mar/30/2007 5:06 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)



<< Thanks, Ray! I hope I'm just being paranoid about the Demmitt. I guess when one makes such a substantial purchase, he's going to hold it up to much greater scrutiny than he would a Frank Laporte. But I've been sitting here ogling it all night and it really is a pretty card. There are some additional wrinkles that don't really show up in the scan, but it's much nicer than what I figured I'd be able to land. The only bummer is that I'm probably tapped out for awhile, but at least I'm doing a decent job of sticking with my strategy of saving up for big-time T206's this year instead of just adding a bunch of bulk. >>



Steve,
Thinking optimistically, just assume that the Demmitt front was on the side wall of the pouch facing away from the tobacco with only the back exposed.
With these PB's being packaged that way anything is possible as far as the staining goes. Better to consider yourself fortunate to have a clean front than fret about why it looks significantly cleaner than the back.
Congrats again, and I have always loved your set building strategy.
RayB

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Date Posted: Apr/05/2007 9:04 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

C'mon guys, this slipped all the way to the fourth page. Get your wallets out of the mothballs! Nothing exciting, just to get it back to the first page:





Actually might as well post this. Don't have it yet though:





Date Posted: Apr/05/2007 10:09 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Well-timed bump, Lamont. (And I apologize for being terrible with names, even here in cyberspace. User ID's and avatars is about all I can remember.) I was thinking of this thread earlier today when I realized it wasn't on page 1. All the way down to page 4, though? Shameful!

Anyway, that Ganley looks nice, and I think he's a fairly difficult common. I'd be too superstitious to post the Matty, but I'm sure you're excited about it. I would be, too.

I've got a few new pick-ups but just haven't scanned them. Also won a few on eBay tonight, including a Schulte (Front View), which has been high on my want list for awhile.


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Date Posted: Apr/06/2007 8:32 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Nothing overly exciting...but every little beater helps...





Date Posted: Apr/12/2007 5:50 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Latest pickup....it's actually now in a SGC 50 holder. Any opinions on what it would grade with PSA?






Date Posted: Apr/12/2007 7:17 PM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)

Steve, I just saw this thread - congrats on the Demmitt and the O'Hara. They both look great.

As for the Demmitt possibly getting a bath - wouldn't the back also get cleaned up if that was the case?

From what I have gathered, it is difficult, if not impossible, for graders (or anyone else) to determine if a card has been bathed or not. I imagine many Polar Bear cards have gotten baths, and maybe some Red Man cards from the 50s also. I like the Polar Bear backs the most in the T206 set, but I also know the high chance that some (most?) of my cards have gone taken a bath to get to the cleanliness they are in now (all are in SGC holders as I'm collecting the T206 set that way). I had to make a decision whether I was comfortable with cards being bathed. I have never done it myself, but I'm not going to stick my head in the sand either. Anyway, I decided that was ok with me for my collection, and that decision allows me to collect Polar Bear backs without worrying about it anymore.





Date Posted: Apr/12/2007 7:18 PM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)

asphaltman, nice Matty. I think that's a 3/4 tweener. Regardless of the grade, nice registration and image, nice card!



Date Posted: Apr/13/2007 5:10 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

finally picked up a hofer - not my usual slab and sorry for the fingerprints but I don't have the energy this AM to rescan after last night's Sabres game...






Date Posted: Apr/13/2007 6:11 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I think the Matty would get a 4, but that shadow would drive me nuts. I'd hold out for a Matty portrait with better registration.

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2007 10:01 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

With 2 T206s in today's mail, I just reached 100 unique T206 cards.

Here's #100:




I also recently picked up my first Old Mill back:




Doug



Date Posted: Apr/15/2007 7:51 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Well it arrived today....





Date Posted: Apr/15/2007 12:13 PM
Posted By: cmoking (Member)

Maybe it is the smaller size of the scan, but this scan looks better than the previous large scans you showed. The extra large scans may have shown the imperfections in the card too clearly. Nice card!



Date Posted: Apr/15/2007 12:28 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks King. It really looks better in person than I thought...I honestly think it would have about a 75% chance at a PSA 4.



Date Posted: Apr/15/2007 2:06 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked these up today...






Date Posted: Apr/15/2007 8:52 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Nice cards AMAN.

Does anyone know when you'll be able to add multiple/different backs of the same T206 to the registry?
Ben

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Date Posted: Apr/15/2007 9:16 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

What's up, Ben? I've been meaning to e-mail you back. Meeting up for the Cards-Royals series sounds like a great idea. I ran it by homegirl today - on our way to Busch, no less - and she actually thought it sounded like a good idea...provided her and kid #1 tag along and shop or whatever at night. Fair enough, I s'pose.

But, yeah, they should have something like that on the Registry for us back geeks.

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Date Posted: Apr/16/2007 11:57 AM
Posted By: Bigtrain (New Member)



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Date Posted: Apr/16/2007 6:16 PM
Posted By: wondercoin (Patterns to Plats, MS to Mattes)

Hi everyone. I am a PCGS authorized coin dealer and do very, very little with baseball cards. However, back in the late 1980's or early 1990's (I believe it was 1991?), I did assist a collector in buying the unique Proof Christie Mathewson T-206 card out of the Sotherbys sale. For those of you that might have the Sotherby's catalog - this was the lot immediately following the sale of the famous Honus Wagner card when Sotherby's first sold it.

In any event, I submitted this unique Proof Mathewson T-206 to PSA this month and after several weeks of analysis and investigation by PSA, they determined the following:

1. The card has a different placement of Mathewson's cap as well as some other subtle differences with the actual T-206 card. PSA believes the card is likely the "artist's draft" of the final work used for the official T-206 card.

2. The PSA investigation could not locate another example of such an artist's draft known out in the market place for either any other T-206 card or similar vintage baseball card known of that era. The closest thing PSA could locate is a Turkey Red card where the border of the card was slightly different than the regular issue card - but, nothing like this where the actual design was different.

3. PSA believes the card to be "no question" legitimate and authentic BUT, PSA HAS STATED THAT IT DOES NOT GRADE PROOF VINTAGE BASEBALL CARDS and that rule is clearly posted in their terms and conditions. PSA has advised me that "the door remains open" however and if I can present concrete evidence to PSA as to the origin and/or nature of the card, they will reconsider officially recognizing it.

Can any experts of the T-206 series out there shed any light on this unique Mathewson card? It was also suggested to me that I contact Mastros tomorrow to discuss the card, which I plan to do. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide to me and the collector I am assisting with this card.

Wondercoin (Mitch)



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Date Posted: Apr/16/2007 11:07 PM
Posted By: ToneD (Member)

Here is one from today. I'm trying to get my pics to show up with the help of a board member. So I hope this works





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Date Posted: Apr/17/2007 3:06 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Wow beautiful Johnson!



Date Posted: Apr/17/2007 5:23 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Mitch,
Try contacting SGC. www.sgccard.com. I believe they will slab and authenticate "proof" cards. We would love to see a scan.
Good Luck.
RayB

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Date Posted: Apr/17/2007 5:54 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

I do not know T206s. But look at this one, should it have a qualifier with it?





Date Posted: Apr/17/2007 7:07 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

I don't think PSA has a qualifier for what's wrong with that card. :

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Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Apr/17/2007 7:03 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Did i miss something here?

Topps Buyback

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Date Posted: Apr/18/2007 5:33 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< Did i miss something here?

Topps Buyback
>>



Some people want to put that Topps buy back set together. I've seen some
very strong prices on cards. If it wasn't in a buy back holder the card
is a $30. Collect what you like.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Apr/18/2007 7:03 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Where can I get some of those top holders to stick my low grade commons in before selling them?



Date Posted: Apr/18/2007 9:45 AM
Posted By: RipublicaninMass (Choose Your Title)

I was supposed to get a free one from vintage*investments but.....

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Date Posted: Apr/18/2007 3:16 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Fortunately this Matty won't be leaving my hands anytime soon....very exicited to get one that I can keep in my price range





Date Posted: Apr/18/2007 6:02 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I like it better than the 4. Can't tell from the scan, but it looks like the image is a little crisper.

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Date Posted: Apr/19/2007 5:04 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

In person, the card doesnt have that weird miscut at the top



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Date Posted: Apr/20/2007 6:52 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

That is a Sweet Griffith port. Now I know why a few Griffith portraits have changed hand recently.

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Date Posted: Apr/20/2007 7:30 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Guys - I've been concentrating on EPDG backs as a subset. I would greatly appreciate some help on acquiring more. Cash or possible trade for T206 cards considered. Thanks for letting me spam here and hopefully you can help me on my quest.
RayB

Great looking Cicotte and Griffin!


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Date Posted: Apr/20/2007 1:24 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<< Guys - I've been concentrating on EPDG backs as a subset. I would greatly appreciate some help on acquiring more. Cash or possible trade for T206 cards considered. Thanks for letting me spam here and hopefully you can help me on my quest.
RayB

Great looking Cicotte and Griffin!
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RayB,
Spam warning. I have a Fred Abbott PSA 5 EPDG currently for sale on eBay.

Thanks,
Mark



Date Posted: Apr/20/2007 2:28 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Ray, I have a few. When I get home I'll see who they are. I'll trade and hopefully it will be player for player. I'll PM you later tonight. Joe

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Date Posted: Apr/20/2007 5:58 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A bunch of really presentable 1's from our resident eye appeal expert RayB. Thanks Ray.






And one off the bay.





Date Posted: Apr/20/2007 11:00 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here's my latest addition:


Ray, sorry, I don't have any EPDG backs for you...I'm trying to get at least one of each back, and I only have one of those at the moment.


Doug



Date Posted: Apr/21/2007 7:58 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Lamont, Those sure are some sweet 1's. Ray does have an eye for his cards.
This isn't new, but I also like to pick up a few 1's. Enjoy




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Date Posted: Apr/21/2007 2:10 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Deuces
AWESOME Cards! I'm dying to get my hands on one of those Benders. Come to think of it I want one of those Tinkers too.



Date Posted: Apr/22/2007 9:43 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Picked up a nice lot of PSA 2's early in the week. Here's the ones that are now former 2's - as you can see the wear on the reverses is pretty subtle. I really love cards like these:









And a former SGC 20:



and a one-time SGC 30:



The Schulte had been pretty high on my want list for awhile, so I was pretty happy to finally land a decent one for not a lot of money.

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Date Posted: Apr/22/2007 11:15 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Steve, As always sweet cards. Looks like you picked up some steals there as
they all present themselves better than the grade they were. I see you are
still letting your cards out of their plastic tombs.

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Date Posted: Apr/22/2007 12:22 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Yeah, it's mainly a storage and enjoyment issue for me rather than any type of statement on the superiority of raw vs. graded collecting. (Though I guess I do get some satisfaction from demolishing PSA holders.) I do keep my more expensive cards slabbed - $250 and up is my general rule of thumb, though that's not a hard-and-fast rule - but there's something to be said for the sensory experience of really handling old cardboard.

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Date Posted: Apr/22/2007 12:24 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

By the way, a belated congrats on that Johnson, ToneD. That card is just sick.

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2007 9:21 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

The latest...the Chase was a downgrade from a PSA 4, the Hart the lone SL'ger I kept from a lot of 3 I bought...






Date Posted: Apr/24/2007 2:45 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
That Hart's a tough one. Congrats!
Nice cards this week all.
RayB

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Date Posted: Apr/30/2007 8:51 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

A few more pick ups in the last week and a half...excuse the Matty I know I already posted it, but now have it through my scanner.









Date Posted: May/01/2007 5:19 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
That Matty's an outstanding 2.
Congrats again.
RayB

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Date Posted: May/01/2007 5:40 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks Ray. You can see the crease on the back...middle bottom right before the word Dist. It barely shows up on the front...I had to hold the card under a light at an angle to notice it. I'm happy with it...pretty presentable as a 2, I've seen worse 3's.

The Huggins and the Arndt are great examples of nice fronts with just a bit of damage to the back....was real happy getting the Huggins as well with the Tolstoi back.

The Rossman and Seymore were example of "buying cheap"....something like $12 each....they will do until nicer examples come along.

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Date Posted: May/01/2007 8:40 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

A couple more that will be headed to the house later this week....these are raw..and obviously beaters...but still happy...Mr. Young will get a seat in the box right next to Mr. Mathewson.







Date Posted: May/02/2007 2:47 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

One more from the same deal...one of those cards that is ugly enough you could only love it if it were your own...lol





Date Posted: May/02/2007 9:26 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Love that personalize stamp on that Marquard. You need to look for more.

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Date Posted: May/02/2007 4:58 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

A couple different backs that i've added this week.



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Date Posted: May/04/2007 1:03 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

ben...how much was that cycle back card? thanks.

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Date Posted: May/04/2007 3:17 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

MD,
$54.50 shipped. Gonna send it out on my freebie sub.

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Date Posted: May/04/2007 4:08 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

thanks. am thinking of expanding my backs collection to include a common with a cycle back.

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Date Posted: May/04/2007 8:58 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

I dont know where to begin, there have been so many great looking cards displayed on here lately !

This past couple of weeks brought me my first Polar Bear, Tolstoi, and Sovereign backed cards. First is the Purtell which is a polar bear followed by Russ Ford with the Tolstoi back and after that a Jack Quinn w/ Sovereign back. After those three are a couple of other recent pickups.










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Date Posted: May/05/2007 6:54 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Bri, Very nice selection. Keep the cards coming guys. Here's a new one.
Very small pencil letter "P" on the front, but the card is solid and for $20
keep marking them cards.



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Date Posted: May/05/2007 8:46 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

It is nice to see a little action here after a couple slow weeks. All these arrived today...nothing spectacular, but all the same necessary.







Date Posted: May/06/2007 8:41 PM
Posted By: Carew29 (Expert Collector)


Holy Crap!!! On the back of the fish wrapper today is a story about a 90 year old man in Illinois that just whipped out a NM to NM/MT complete set of T206'S including a WAGNER and a PLANK card!!!

BTW, he sold his 1951 Bowman MANTLE in a SGC 96 for some large cash!!!



Date Posted: May/06/2007 9:23 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)



<< Holy Crap!!! On the back of the fish wrapper today is a story about a 90 year old man in Illinois that just whipped out a NM to NM/MT complete set of T206'S including a WAGNER and a PLANK card!!!

BTW, he sold his 1951 Bowman MANTLE in a SGC 96 for some large cash!!!
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NO WAY !!

Are you serious about that ?

Does anyone have a link to this guys story ?

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Date Posted: May/06/2007 10:27 PM
Posted By: Carew29 (Expert Collector)


This was in the Columbian ( State of Washington) newspaper yesterday. The guy's name is Lionel Carter and he sold the set for 1.6 million.

Included was the Wagner,Plank, and the 51 Bowman Mantle which sold for $165,000. He was a private collector for over 50 years and kept upgrading his T206 set over the years. His sets have been compared to Nagy and Egan's collections.



Date Posted: May/06/2007 10:54 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

That is just astonishing.

It makes you wonder just how many amazing collections are still out there, ungraded, tucked away and waiting to be unveiled to the world in all their glory.

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Date Posted: May/07/2007 10:12 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

I don't remember Carter having a Wagner or a Plank for that matter. He did have a binder of T206's that looked right out of the pack fresh, but I believe actually I'm positive the reporter is mistaken. Don't they every have fact finders proofing their stories any more? Or I we to believe everything these hacks write. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there have been countless articles, stories and pictures of his collection and never was there a mention of a Wagner. His collection is valued at $2M+ but a Mint Wagner would be worth $2M itself.

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Date Posted: May/07/2007 10:14 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< This was in the Columbian ( State of Washington) newspaper yesterday. The guy's name is Lionel Carter and he sold the set for 1.6 million. >>



Not even close to true. Who is this idiot that wrote this? He should be canned back to the mail room. The set hasn't even come up for auction yet as it's slated for sale in the next auction. What a hack.

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Date Posted: May/07/2007 10:23 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Your correct Joe. He didn't have a Wagner. He did have a low grade Plank that Paul M. bought from over at Net54 out of the auction.



Date Posted: May/07/2007 10:45 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

getting slowed down by other collecting ventures. Stupid d304s and CJs. I've gotta stop that or ill be using my T206's to build shelter and to keep warm.

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Date Posted: May/07/2007 12:23 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< Your correct Joe. He didn't have a Wagner. He did have a low grade Plank that Paul M. bought from over at Net54 out of the auction. >>



Really? I stand corrected on the Plank. I didn't think Lionel collected any thing low grade. I remember a story that bill Mastro sent him a rare card that he needed for a set for free and Lionel sent it back to him with a note saying, "Sorry, not up to my standards." LOL

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Date Posted: May/07/2007 1:15 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Joe, here is the Plank that Paul picked up. Would look better with my collection though....I have many in the same grade that would make Mr. Plank feel right at home. But, I still haven't found anything saying there was a Wagner.



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Date Posted: May/07/2007 7:53 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Received this one in the mail today. Bought from someone who bought from RayB...obviously you can tell it's a former Ray card...I am clueless as to why this is just a PSA 2.




A little bit closer up....I'm still clueluss....





Date Posted: May/08/2007 8:36 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

I've seen PSA 4's that looked worse than that. Nice consistant grading.

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Date Posted: May/08/2007 8:53 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

2dueces, That Lumley looks great, nice pickup !

I'll be looking for one of those soon. Im trying to assemble all cards from each NY team. I just hope I can find one as nice as that for the price.



MajorDanby, that Milligan is a sweet looking card

asphaltman76, real nice card for the grade. It definately seems like that card is vastly undergraded.

Ive noticed in my very short time collecting T206 cards that condition can be all over the place for certain grades.

These two I picked up this week are perfect examples. Both are PSA 3's yet one clearly looks at least 2 grades better if not more.



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Date Posted: May/08/2007 9:01 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

BTW, those two cards along with the others I picked up the past week or so helped me break into the top 100 sets on the registry. Im now sitting in 97th place with a GPA of 2.85.

Which brings me to my question for everyone...

What are other collectors of this amazing sets long term goals ? Its obvious that a set like this isnt one any of us will ever complete, which makes it unique in that facet. Most often we start collecting sets with the ultimate goal of completion.

Ive only been collecting T206 cards for a few months now and figured my goals would be to first get my feet wet with different backs/variations, collect cards from all NY based teams, move on to picking up a HOF player here and there, and finally see where it takes me from that point.

I was just curious to hear others views on the set and where they would like their collection to go short and long term.

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Date Posted: May/09/2007 2:32 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I don't know that I would say it would be impossible to complete. Now I'm saying that realizing I'll never have a Wagner, or probably for that matter a Plank....but I don't think the set as a whole would really be impossible. I know quite a few people....I have a neighbor down the road from me that is number 4 on the registry....I've recently broke into the top 80 (I know, big accomplishment). RayB is at 50%......no reason he couldn't complete the set over the next 5-7 years. Scott Lasko is buying, buying, buying...which may slow down at some point...but none the less the guy is way ahead of me.....Joe B is probably fairly well along...but he collects every slab..not just PSA...so who knows what kind of stash Joe is sitting on....it's the quiet guys like that you have to watch for...one day he'll just come out and day "Well, I finished the set"



Date Posted: May/09/2007 2:34 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

The one thing to remember when trying to get along with the Monstor and one day complete it.....improvise, be creative.....unless money grows on your trees chances are at some point you can hit a wall when it comes to purchases...be creative though....there are many ways to create money with cards to further this set along.....



Date Posted: May/09/2007 2:37 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Bri,
If you only think you can get so far.....one suggestion...don't collect so many 3's and 4's.....go with 1's and 2's.....you'll save a few bucks that way.....and there are many 1's and 2's with the same front your Dorner has with just a tad of paperloss on the back.



Date Posted: May/09/2007 10:36 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Just got this as part of a trade..it'll probably be traded again here soon









Date Posted: May/09/2007 11:05 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< I was just curious to hear others views on the set and where they would like their collection to go short and long term. >>



Long term, I hope to complete the set minus Wagner and doyle. I doubt i'll finish this set within the next two years...will likely take me a long time. I collect high eye appeal, low grade examples (i.e. paperloss, MK, light creases).

i dont dabble with the backs too much. i would like to own every back except, of course, the cobb back.

Money is always an issue. Right now i'm getting lured away from T206 to collect other sets. I'm pretty sure, with my limited budget, that in time these collecting ventures will be set aside and i'll refocus on the T206 again.

One card at a time is my perspective at this point.


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Date Posted: May/09/2007 12:32 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

My long term goal is to keep plugging along. I'm in no hurry as I found it impossible to be in a hurry with this set long ago. I pick up a card here and there and continue to work on my 60's football. The thrill is in the hunt anyways so if you amass cards quickly, you tend to not apprieciate them fully. Someday I'll have all the portraits in the set and fill in some holes. No worries cause there ain't no hurries.

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Date Posted: May/09/2007 4:55 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Interesting responses so far.

Maybe I shouldnt have said nobody has a chance at completing the set, as I am sure there are those who have the means to do so. It was more my intention to say for the most part not too many will ever have a chance at true completion ( getting the Wagner, Plank, etc. )

Im sure there are several members who can come damn close to finishing this amazing set. In time, by plugging away here and there Im sure I too may even get close.

I know one thing though. Over the past several years since getting back into collecting I had attempted to assemble a couple of different sets ( primarily the '71 topps in PSA 8 or better, which I got to around 50% before selling off ) and in time I became disinterested in going after them. Too many commons among other reasons turned me off and in the end I swore off complete sets for the registry.

Since starting my pursuit of T206 cards I realized it is without a doubt the one set where even the most obscure common is special and something worth going after and continuing to pursue. I highly doubt this set is one I would ever tire of chasing. These cards are unique, at least in my eyes, in that no matter what conditon they are something special.

Thank you to all who have responded so far, as well as all those who have encouraged me since starting this set a short time ago. The appreciation of this set, as well as the appreciation collectors of this set have for each other are going to make this an enjoyable ride for me however far it takes me !

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Date Posted: May/09/2007 5:31 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

My personal focus has been once I got started with T206's....there couldn't be any turning back. I havent' dabbled with any other sets...the day I started with T206's I sold off my meager 1952 topps set. I truely think that is probably the only way to ever have a chance at the monster. And I agree, it is very much a financial burden for most (including me) to try to get deep in the set. Obviously all the bigger priced cards will wait....maybe a long time. Some of the mid-priced cards I've been able to get hold of...Johnson portrait, Matty portrait, now a Cy Young portrait, as well as a couple different backs along the way....a Lenox, a couple hindu's....of which I've sold those. Just like the Collins PSA 5 I have above...that was through a trade, with the intention of eventually selling it off....or trading it again...for cash or lower conditioned cards.

So far I've been pretty lucky. I am around 78-79 on the registry...have a few other cards to send in for grading (including the Cy Young portrait)...and all in all, from the beginning I've only put $200 into my cards. That was what I initially put in my paypal account...and over the past six-eight months it's been flipping alot, and grabbing unto lower priced cards....buy a card for $250...sell it for $350...use that to buy a couple more PSA 1's or 2's....and do the same thing again....it takes a while...but it's working....patience is the key.



Date Posted: May/09/2007 8:22 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

For myself it's certainly the plan to complete the set minus the Wagner and maybe a few others. I am approaching the 100 card mark and should get there pretty soon. It's a little disheartening to realize that I have 400+ more to go. I have told Dave in the past that I admire his ability to make deals, buy and flip cards (even non T206's) etc. rather just relying on ebay and buying from other collectors. It's pretty impressve to me that he has only laid out $200 so far. He has a really nice collection (and he's a helluva nice guy to boot).

I too only collect T206's at this point and I think that helps. I have a 55 Topps set minus the Clemente in PSA 5 or better. At some point I'll pick up a Roberto to finish that. I also started a 41 Play Ball set that I got reasonaby far on (none of the biggies) but after i bought my first T206 I stopped with the Playball's cold.

I like the fact that the the folks that post on this thread almost exclusively collect in the same grade range. It's nice to look at cards that would fit in nicely in your collection as well. I read the Net 54 board often but never really felt like my collecting style fits in there. There is some serious cash thrown around by those guys. The cards that those guys pick up in auctions is mind boggling. I couldn't even sniff probbaly the most generic of lots in a Mastro or REA auction but I'm okay with that. It will be really neat to see where we're all at in a few years.



Date Posted: May/09/2007 9:48 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

My T206 goals are pretty hazy. I have been collecting them for 2-3 years, but my focus is mostly elsewhere. I'm trying to finish my 1935 National Chicle football set primarily, but I'm also working more enthusiastically on other vintage football. Regarding T206, I bought my first one "just to have one". Since then, I've collected mostly commons, with a HOFer here and there. I still have no Southern Leaguers.

My main T206 goals are, from highest priority to lowest:
-- At least one card from each tobacco company
-- All the commons
-- At least one of each of the "big name" HOFers
-- All HOFers (probably never)
-- Some of the big 6 (most likely never)
-- Some of the big 4 (Almost surely never)


Doug



Date Posted: May/10/2007 5:58 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Doug....You'll have to pick up a southern leaguer at some point soon. I love them. Not to mention if you look at Scot Reader's T206 article they are all in the top 50 rarest of the T206's...many in the top 20. I really think in the next few years Southern Leaguers will continue an upward swing in prices...so now is the time to get them. I've tried telling Scott to pick some up....but maybe because he's a Philly guy he isn't into the redneck cards..

As far as making deals....it's not hard. It's luck...you just have to be on the computer at the right time. On the Net54 board two days ago a Kleinow Boston variation came up for sale in a PSA 5. He was asking $225 for it....unfortunately I wasn't online during the 20 minutes it was available. That card in that grade could easily be flipped right away for $600....so for a $375 profit....could pick up a nice lot of 10 lower grade T206's...basically for free.



Date Posted: May/10/2007 6:11 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Here is a few examples of cards I've flipped lately to get further with my set...obviously not all are T206's though...but all came from bargain deals I knew I could get ahead on.











Date Posted: May/10/2007 7:23 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

"Joe B is probably fairly well along...but he collects every slab..not just PSA...so who knows what kind of stash Joe is sitting on....it's the quiet guys like that you have to watch for...one day he'll just come out and day "Well, I finished the set"


Hmm, I've never been descibed as a quiet guy. LOL. Actually I would be farther along but I concentrated on picking up SL and HOF portraits and as Dave can tell you that will slow you down a bit. I now have 28 HOFer's and 8 SLer's. Now I can go back to picking up a portrait here and there.

"Well, I finished the set"

That statement may be a few days away though.

BTW guys, keep the photos and discussion coming. It's great to be included in this semi elite club. After all 20 Billion people in China don't have as nice of a collection as we do.


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Date Posted: May/10/2007 8:11 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

The problem Joe....it's true 20 billion in China dont have as nice of collections..but five miles down the road from me sits the guy with the 4th and 16th best sets on the registry. So I don't even have the best collection in a five mile radius!



Date Posted: May/10/2007 9:39 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)



<< Doug....You'll have to pick up a southern leaguer at some point soon. I love them. Not to mention if you look at Scot Reader's T206 article they are all in the top 50 rarest of the T206's...many in the top 20. I really think in the next few years Southern Leaguers will continue an upward swing in prices...so now is the time to get them. I've tried telling Scott to pick some up....but maybe because he's a Philly guy he isn't into the redneck cards.. >>



Interesting -- I didn't know the southern leaguers are so rare...I haven't been ignoring them on purpose, but I've found I'm much more comfortable in T206 at the price point of commons. I may look harder now at southern leaguers, though.

Looking at the pop report is misleading to me in T206 -- I'm more familiar with vintage football (1935-1952). I think there's so much more demand for T206 that a higher percentage of cards have been graded. Even after 2 years or more, I'm still just getting a feel for this set, in many respects.


Doug



Date Posted: May/10/2007 10:12 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Doug....just in case you aren't familiar with it. Here is a link to Scot Reader's T206 literture...it does get awful in depth as Scot has done a great deal of work studying the cards and backs. Near the end he does give a ranking for each card in the whole set on the basis of how difficult they are to come by.

T206 Literture



Date Posted: May/10/2007 10:48 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks for the link -- I've actually been out to T206 Museum, but haven't read it all yet. BTW: The link didn't entirely work for me, but I could see that it was going to the T206 Museum...


Doug



Date Posted: May/11/2007 7:20 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

While my hobby plans have certainly changed many times and will probably continue to evolve, I do plan on completing a T206 set less the big three of Wagner, Doyle and Plank. The Wagner and Doyle are obviously pipedreams, though I guess "dream" is something of a misnomer with the Doyle since I just don't find it that interesting of a card. I don't ever expect to land a Plank, but the guy on N54 who snagged the Mastro one makes it seem that it's at least within the realm of possibility. I'd have to reread the thread over there, but I guess he sacrificed a huge chunk of his collection so he could snag the Plank. Stroke of brilliance, if you ask me.

Anyway, I'm up to a little over 300 T206's though the number of unique cards is probably quite a bit less since I'm trying to get as many different back types as I can for the St. Louis players. Plus I keep a few other doubles - for instance if I have tint variations, a low-grade tough back and a nicer common back, or simply dupes of some of my favorites. I've reached this point in a little under three years. I'm sure it'll take me at least three more to finish since I still need a lot of major HoFers. But that's the nice thing about the Monster. It's definitely a long-term kinda collecting project.

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Date Posted: May/12/2007 6:46 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

I'm still looking for an Evers portrait to complete my Tinker to Evers to Chance portrait combo. I have some T206's that I will offer for trade bait. I would like one PSA 3 or less and will take any card with good eye appeal. Back damage does't bother me. I am also willing to trade some HOFer's for the card. P.M. me or e-mail me at [email protected] Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: May/12/2007 7:06 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)



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Date Posted: May/17/2007 5:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Had the Chance already. Picked up the other two over the past two weeks. I've wanted the Evers for a LONG time and got what I think is a phenominal deal the other night on ebay.





Date Posted: May/17/2007 7:13 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

The registration on that trio is awesome, Lamont. Especially the Chance, which seems to be one of the many T206's that one typically sees with fuzzy focus. Joss pitching is another. I've had two or three different ones but I just can't find one with a really crisp image.

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Date Posted: May/18/2007 12:28 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Lamont, Those are really really sweet cards. I can't find an ever portrait. Or maybe I'm just too cheap to pay for one. I think you all know the answer to that. Right Steve? LOL

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: May/18/2007 12:33 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

It's with much sorrow that I am offering this card for sale at this time. It's a T206 Cobb Red with a Ghost Cobb ( or overprint or wet ink) back. I've wrestled with this for some time and I hate t osee it go, but.....go it will. This is the only Cobb ghost I have ever seen. Beautiful card. $1185.00 shipping and insurance included. First e-mail gets it. We will hammer out the payment details then. Serious offers now taken.
[email protected]




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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: May/18/2007 7:43 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Guys
Thanks for the kind words. This one arrived today. It's a 1 for a reason but it's my first Cobb and I love it. Nice PB back too.

Scott





Date Posted: May/18/2007 7:59 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few more:






Date Posted: May/18/2007 8:43 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

That is a nice Cobb Scott. Here a few I got in this week...but I just can't keep up with you! The Latham I especially like...if memory serves it is a 460 only subject..so a little more scarce than some.










Date Posted: May/18/2007 10:27 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Good stuff, all. And good luck selling the Cobb, Joe. I've always been a little envious of that card but my hobby budget is currently in the red. Bigtime.

Being broke is a bummer, but it's been a pretty good mail week. My favorite new T206 is probably this EPDG Konetchy:



Runner-up is probably this Schaefer. It's nothing spectacular, but I like picking up cards of one of the game's great characters:



My brokeness stems in part from picking up some PSA 6 T206's with the intent to flip 'em. I don't get too terribly attached to my cards and don't mind treating them like mere commodities if doing so lets a hobby small fry like myself move up the vintage baseball food chain, but I'll probably spend some time saying goodbye to these two beauties when the time comes:





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Date Posted: May/19/2007 8:01 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Steve,
Sweet looking pick ups!!. You must be amassing a great set. Do you have your set scanned so we can view it? (Photobucket or the likes?) I alway enjoy seeing my friends picking up additions to their sets. Keep the card coming.

My Cobb is an interesting card. but it's just too high end to match the rest of my set. . I've enjoyed it these 2 years and now it's time for someone else to get the same pleasure out of it that I have. "We don't own these cards. We are just holding them for awhile."

If anyone has a serious offer in mind, shoot me an e-mail. Please serious offers. Joe

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: May/19/2007 9:11 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I know the feeling, Joe. I've got a couple of PSA 3's that I wouldn't mind downgrading to 2's or high-end 1's.

Anyway, here's a link to my T206 page.

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Date Posted: May/21/2007 12:43 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice cards everyone! Joe...Sorry to see you part with the cobb. Hope you get what you're looking for...even when someone tries to interfere in any transactions like that guy on net 54.

Steve...i hear you about being in the red. I'm officially holding off on buying cards unless i see a really nice low grade cobb green or elberfeld. Here was my last T206 for the time being.



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Date Posted: May/21/2007 6:35 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Unfortunately that guy sticks his nose in on many listings on the B/S/T that he shouldnt. I wish that it would be taken care of over there...but it continues to happen.



Date Posted: May/21/2007 9:12 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Yea, He doesn't even merit a response. I think I discribed it accurately. It was sold to me as a Ghost image. Now I have given the buyer three options to describe it. Ghost, over print or wet ink back. It definately is not a leak threw from the front. Some people think they know something and are better off keeping their mouth shut.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: May/21/2007 10:28 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Congratulations everyone on your new cards. I hope you do well on your Cobb w/ghost, Joe.

I'm excited to have added to my backs this week. I am going for at least one example of each tobacco company, and I added my first Cycle this week:


I am also over 20% complete on the set now! Granted, they're nearly all commons, but it's still a milestone for me.



Doug



Date Posted: May/22/2007 6:26 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

I've been trying to put together a Buffalo team set - here's the latest -





Date Posted: May/22/2007 8:24 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

This will be my sig until the Sabres win the Stanley Cup...

LET'S GO BUFFALO


I've been waiting 43 years for a major championship for Buffalo. ( I do remember the Bills winning the AFL Championship in 63 and 64) I am now convinced I will never see another in my lifetime. Your sig line will be there forever. I'm from Buffalo and support all their teams.

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: May/24/2007 7:23 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Not the prettiest card I've ever seen... but now I've got the big three of all time pitchers....Matty, Cy, and now the Big Train.





Date Posted: May/26/2007 6:46 PM
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Date Posted: May/26/2007 7:25 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

Man, everytime I see that Egan card it gives me the creeps!



Date Posted: May/27/2007 7:51 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

n/m

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Date Posted: May/29/2007 5:47 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

One new card for registry and two raw...both ugly....but will happily send them in to be slabbed.









Date Posted: May/29/2007 10:27 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< Man, everytime I see that Egan card it gives me the creeps! >>



He is definitely one weird lookin' dude.



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Date Posted: Jun/08/2007 7:17 PM
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Date Posted: Jun/08/2007 7:37 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

OK, I'll bite.
What's wrong with the Unglaub?
Looks like a 7!



Date Posted: Jun/08/2007 8:14 PM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

This is a Sweet Cap. I am trying to find all the backs, but they are hard to find on my budget! Bought this one raw last year.




Date Posted: Jun/08/2007 8:15 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Well the Unglaub is kind of faded...and not the best registration on the front....more blurry than any other Unglaub I've had before.



Date Posted: Jun/08/2007 9:16 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Yeah, but that shouldn't harm the grade, Dave. I'm guessing there's some virtually invisible glue or something on back. I dig that Young portrait, by the way. Yeah, it'd be nice to not have the chipping but the color looks really strong. I see a lot of Youngs whose green background looks kinda washed out. And really the chipping isn't too horrific.

Speaking of which, I actually thought about pulling the trigger on the red Cobb that ended earlier tonight. It had a bit of scuffing to the right of Cobb and a swatch of paper loss on back, but the rest of the front looked really, really sharp. But I still haven't recovered from my recent Louisiana T type buying spree, and I've spent a fortune on clothes the last two days. I really need to stay out of the malls while I'm on summer vacation. Of course I'll probably go again within the next few days. Gotta have a new shirt and tie to go with my fly new suit.

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Date Posted: Jun/08/2007 10:54 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

That Unglaub looks like a great 3!!! Congrats on the others as well.

I doubled my HOFers with today's mail! Here are some scans:




Doug



Date Posted: Jun/09/2007 5:16 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Those are some nice pickups for 4's. Latest today below.







Date Posted: Jun/13/2007 9:19 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks! I think I got a good deal on those cards too, but I haven't bought many HOFers, so I don't know for sure.

Here are my latest 2, including my first Cobb. I got it in the Cardboard Classics auction. It's not a great looking 3, but it still looks pretty nice, I think.






Doug



Date Posted: Jun/13/2007 10:20 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Doug, very nice Cobb, congrats on the pickup !

As always some nice new additions from everyone.



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Date Posted: Jun/14/2007 5:00 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

Great cards everyone - I couldn't pass this beater up for $20 on ebay -







Date Posted: Jun/14/2007 10:30 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks, Bri!


Doug



Date Posted: Jun/15/2007 7:46 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I was going to say Doug, that is a great Cobb for the grade I think. It's also the next "big" card on my list after now having the Matty, Young and Johnson portraits.



Date Posted: Jun/15/2007 5:43 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

I went to a local show this afternoon and found these three. I think I did OK for $50




Dave



Date Posted: Jun/15/2007 6:09 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Not bad at all for $50.

And the one with the stamp on the back is the same as Joe has on several of his...



Date Posted: Jun/15/2007 7:55 PM
Posted By: 262Runner (Veteran)

Thanks asphaltman, these are my first "raw" purchases, until now all of my T206's have come already graded.



Date Posted: Jun/15/2007 8:00 PM
Posted By: MorrellMan (Expert Collector)

Great pics all along - that Unglaub is one crack 3 -
I'm way behind in posting recent additions, but I thought I'd check in and ask the proverbial question:
How the hell?:
1 Don Louchios 8.16 98.47% 7.94

Frickin' unbelievable.

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"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."



Date Posted: Jun/15/2007 11:13 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)



<< I was going to say Doug, that is a great Cobb for the grade I think. It's also the next "big" card on my list after now having the Matty, Young and Johnson portraits. >>



Thanks, asphaltman. I really like how clean it is. Thankfully, its corners are worn, otherwise, it'd never find its way into my hands.

Even though it's a "big" card, it doesn't put much of a dent in this set! Yikes.

Congratulations on your big portraits -- the Johnson and the Young are still on my list.


Doug



Date Posted: Jun/18/2007 11:25 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I think that Cobb looks great, Doug. Plus overprint backs are cooler than plain ones. I'd love to have that card.

My own additions weren't quite as cool. This Burns was a BVG 2 that went for just $17 or so:



But I do really like this McLean. One of the better images in the set, plus a cool reverse:



The crazy thing is that I had been looking for that card for quite a while and then picked this up a couple weeks later:



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Date Posted: Jun/19/2007 2:20 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve are you getting the T215's off ebay? I keep wondering why I'm missing them!



Date Posted: Jun/19/2007 6:19 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nah, I got that one in Clean Sweep. I haven't seen too many on eBay lately. There was a raw Chase a few weeks ago that sold for a reasonable price, then a demolished (SGC 10) Dots Miller that sold for quite a bit earlier this week. There's a Reulbach running now. It's rough but I still wouldn't mind it.

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Date Posted: Jun/19/2007 9:41 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks, Yawie. I like the overprints too. I'm surprised they don't command more of a premium.

Nice EPDG -- I only have 1 in my collection, and in retrospect, I'm glad that I have it. It seems that they're selling for a stronger premium lately.


Doug



Date Posted: Jun/20/2007 9:29 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)



<<
Nice EPDG -- I only have 1 in my collection, and in retrospect, I'm glad that I have it. It seems that they're selling for a stronger premium lately.


Doug
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Doug, you're right. Very strong premium. I collect the EPDG subset and have been getting beat routinely at aggressive levels for cards on ebay.
Steve that's a quality raw EPDG for sure.

As an aside; (shameless begging) anyone here that can help me in my quest and has EPDG Backs they would be willing to trade or sell, I'd be interested.
Thanks.

RayB

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Date Posted: Jun/21/2007 8:23 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

What's up fellas? And thanks Dave for pointing me to this thread. I've heard some good things about you guys and am looking forward to being a part of it. I too am a T-206 collector. I started in January of this year. I collect low grade PSA 1's to maybe the 4 range, but nothing higher.

I'd just like to say that there are some very nice cards on here. I hope to add some like those to my collection in the near future.

Again, hello to everyone, and when I get home tonight, I'll start posting some of my collection.

Regards,
Eric

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Date Posted: Jun/21/2007 10:33 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Good to see you finally got through Eric



Date Posted: Jun/21/2007 9:32 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Welcome, Eric!


Doug



Date Posted: Jun/22/2007 5:55 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks guys.

I ran into a problem at home last night with my internet. I think my modem dumped out on me and I will have to get a new one. As soon as I do, I'll post some pics.

Oh, and Dave....I got my correct Elberfeld

-Eric

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Date Posted: Jun/22/2007 6:29 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I figured that when I got mine.

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Date Posted: Jun/22/2007 5:55 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

OK, I'm back online. I'll start by posting my 6 horizontal cards. I love these.













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Date Posted: Jun/22/2007 9:55 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

That Pattee looks like a pretty strong 2, unless i'm missing something



Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 6:24 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nope, your definitely not missing anything. I think it's highly undergraded. Very clean white back, and no creases or tears. Just some slightly rounded corners. The Murphy is also in pretty good shape for a 2. That pic is from my scanner, which is a P.O.S., so you really can't tell (the Patee is a scan from the person I bought it from). The back on the Murph is darkened a bit (not white). But no creases, or tears or anything. But again, slightly rounded corners.

-E

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Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 8:17 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I always found it easier to scan T206's and show off more of the card in detail putting black construction paper behind the slab when you scan it...makes the card stick out more. That's one thing I hate about PSA's slabs as compared to SGC



Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 11:29 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks. I'll have to try that when I pick up some more.

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Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 12:00 PM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<< That Pattee looks like a pretty strong 2, unless i'm missing something >>



I was thinking the same thing. Looks much better than a PSA-2



Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 7:07 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That Pattee does look great. Ya done good.

Just one new T206 for me this week, but it's always nice to add a Hindu Southern Leaguer:



The sad thing is that when marking it off on my Excel checklist, I saw how many SL'ers I still need.

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Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 7:55 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Don't know how you keep picking those up Steve. Kicking myself today. There was a Bobby Wallace Hindu back listed in the 1950's cards...so I figured it might fly under the radar...but I forgot to set a snipe this morning before it ended...oh well.



Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 8:18 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nice Steve! I have yet to add one to my collection.

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Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 8:24 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Here's some of my HOFers:














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Date Posted: Jun/23/2007 8:26 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Oops! Posted the message twice. I'll post the second half a little later.


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Date Posted: Jun/24/2007 2:41 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Fell behind a little. Nothing exciting, Rudolph is my first EPDG..










Date Posted: Jun/24/2007 4:28 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

crazy...nice bender. presents very well.

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Date Posted: Jun/24/2007 6:05 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks Major.

And LC, nice PSA 2 Huggins. Looks really nice. Congrats on your first EPDG!

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Date Posted: Jun/24/2007 7:51 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks Crazy. The Huggins actually has some paperloss on the back so I was pleasantly surprised when they gave it a 2. The front is really nice with great color so maybe that helped a little.



Date Posted: Jun/24/2007 9:06 PM
Posted By: jamesgotpoorman (Collector)



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Go Phillies

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Date Posted: Jun/24/2007 11:15 PM
Posted By: hofautos (Collector)


I wanted a COBB, and I know the Green Portrait is the most desirable (assuming due to rareness?), but IMHO the bat-off is the best looking of the bunch, and the one I selected to add to my collection.





Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 12:40 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

good buy, hofautos. I believe the most popular of the 4 cobbs is the red back. the green cobb is the most expensive (rarest of the four).

You cant go wrong with the bat off, though..especially in solid condition, as yours is.

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Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 5:31 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nice Cobb HOFautos. I hope to add at least one of the 4 cobbs to my set within the next year or so. That's how long it'll take to save up for it.

My other problem......every time I do get the funds, I always spend it on something else. T206 related of course

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Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 9:36 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Scott,
Funny that Huggins and Unglaub look familiar.



Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 9:47 AM
Posted By: Fuzz (Veteran)

I checked this thread for comments on some of the items in the Goodwin auctions and did not see any. I saw that he had a PSA 10 and several PSA 9's but the minimum prices looked awfully strong. Does anybody have an comments to share on prices for those ultra high end cards?

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Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 12:25 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I saw that Pastorious on eBay for $27,500. No one bid on it though.

Very low numbers (only 13 graded a GEM MT 10), but that much? I think it's kind of high, especially for a common. On Goodwin it's going for about 19K right now

Ah, but what do I know. It would kind of be cool to have a PSA 10 in one of the T206's

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Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 2:49 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Im not surprised by the prices. High grade and rare T206's continue to rise. Mid to low range grade cards have seen a slight stagnation recently. Low grade cards have remained stable. T206 is by far the most plentiful AND the most popular pre war issue. As long as the demand continues to be at or above current levels, prices will continue to be strong.

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Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 5:15 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

HOF
Beautiful Cobb.

Dave
Thanks as always for the cards!

One more addition. Presents well IMO for a one. Got it at a decent price.





Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 5:40 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Is everybody on a buying spree or what? Had a couple slow weeks for a while there.....heres my first hindu for the set.





Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 5:50 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Dave
Nice pick up. I need to get me a Hindu. Probably should try for an AB back first.

Congrats bud.



Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 6:12 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nice job, Dave. Good thing eBay doesn't hide ID's at $50 and up or else that would've been mine. I think $80 was a good price. The Overall portrait is a great card with any back.

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Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 8:23 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve, well thanks for laying off. I put the minimum bid in...so anybody could have bumped me....but glad you chose not to....this time....



Date Posted: Jun/25/2007 9:13 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nah, I got a Mastro bill sittin' here and am waiting on one from the tree people - had a bunch of work done in my backyard earlier this week. I shouldn't even be searching eBay let alone bidding. It's a sickness.

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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 2:33 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I thought I was the only one that got that "kinda sick" feeling after knowing your fixing to spend a bunch more money. Your wanting the card bad...and happy to win the auction....then that feeling sets in....lol




Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 5:07 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

LC nice Mathewson. Presents very well for a 1.

Dave, love the Hindu. I've got to get one of those. I've got a big goose egg when it comes to rare backs. But, that being said, a Hindu back is about 9 or 10 cards down my list...so It'll be a while.

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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 5:14 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Here's the rest of my HOFers for show and tell. Then I'll post some actual new arrivals.















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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 5:41 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Let me just add that my Tris Speaker is one hell of a beater. It is easily my worst looking card (my Crawford throwing I posted on the previous page comes in at a close second). I think I overpaid for the Speaker, but hey, at least I have one now, right?

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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 3:30 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Finally....


PSA Order Status for Submission # 615844


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE

1 31811726 1911 PIEDMONT JACK BLISS N/A 3
2 31811727 1911 POLAR BEAR JACK BLISS N/A 4
3 31811728 1911 PIEDMONT BOBBY BYRNE N/A 2
4 31811729 1911 PIEDMONT LOU CRIGER N/A 3
5 31811730 1911 SWEET CAPORAL STEVE EVANS N/A 2
6 31811731 1911 OLD MILL RUBE GEYER N/A Not Holdered, Miscut
7 31811732 1911 TOLSTOI BILL GRAHAM ST. LOUIS 2
8 31811733 1911 SOVEREIGN ED KONETCHY GLOVE NEAR GROUND 4
9 31811734 1911 POLAR BEAR ED KONETCHY GLOVE NEAR GROUND 4
10 31811735 1911 CYCLE JAP BARBEAU N/A 1
11 31811736 1911 PIEDMONT ROGER BRESNAHAN PORTRAIT 1
12 31811737 1911 SWEET CAPORAL ROGER BRESNAHAN PORTRAIT 1
13 31811738 1911 TOLSTOI ROGER BRESNAHAN WITH BAT 1
14 31811739 1911 OLD MILL HARRY HOWELL HAND AT WAIST 5
15 31811740 1911 PIEDMONT HARRY GASPER N/A 3
16 31811741 1911 SWEET CAPORAL ED KARGER N/A 4
17 31811742 1911 POLAR BEAR AL MATTERN N/A 3
18 31811743 1911 SWEET CAPORAL BARNEY PELTY HORIZONTAL 1
19 31811744 1911 POLAR BEAR BARNEY PELTY VERTICAL 2
20 31811745 1911 EL PRINC.DE GALES AL SHAW ST. LOUIS 3
21 31811746 1911 POLAR BEAR VIC WILLIS ST. LOUIS, WITH BAT 3
22 31811747 1911 PIEDMONT RUBE WADDELL PORTRAIT 1
23 31811748 1911 PIEDMONT BOBBY WALLACE N/A 1
24 31811749 1911 SWEET CAPORAL BOBBY WALLACE N/A 1
25 31811750 1911 SWEET CAPORAL BOBBY WALLACE N/A 2

Date Received: 04/19/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 06/26/2007
Date Shipped: 06/26/2007




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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 4:45 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Geez, 2+ months. Seems like old times. Nice group of Cardinals, though, Ben.

Speaking of which, I hope you haven't totally given up on your plans to come to the Lou for a game later this summer. With Tomo Okha now in the fold, we're going to turn this season around!

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 06/26/2007 17:04:32|U



Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 5:01 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Wow, that's a long time. I've been seeing that a lot lately. Saw 45 days from someone today.

Nice set of cards!

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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 6:31 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Hey guys...keep your eyes open. I'm trying to get a list together of some prices for different cards to list on Net 54. I will break some stuff up on there and alot of it will be for just what I have in it. I'm thinking now is the time to go after the higher dollar cards and rare backs instead of waiting...then come back to the commons and lower tier HOF'ers later....everybody think I'm crazy?



Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 8:20 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

nah, i like it. that was my goal for 2007. spend less on commons - or at least try to hold out for big lots where i can lower my price per card - and buy more of the major cards. i've done ok since i haven't bought too many t206's and did pick up a demmitt, but most of my big purchases have ended up being other t cards.

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Date Posted: Jun/26/2007 8:53 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Yeah you know Steve...the only ones i'm keeping for now are the Matty portrait, Cy Young portrait, Lundgren (Chicago) and the Overall Hindu back...I still kick myself for letting go of that Lenox back a few months ago...



Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 6:22 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Dave...I actually think that's a good idea. That's the way I'm doing it as well. However, I'm not liquidating my commons. I over paid for some cards when I initially got in the hobby, and would definitly loose money on some of them. I figure I've got them, so might as well keep them.

But how to fund those cards? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 10:51 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Not a bad strategy....especially if you predict the prices of T206s to continue to increase...especially the higher priced and rarer ones. Ive tried to do the same...collecting mainly HOF'ers. I've been grossly outbid on the higher end cards....went after the plank is REA, but was completely blown out of the water very early.



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Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 5:36 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks guys. At least nobody has said i'm half crazy....at least not for this stunt.



Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 6:18 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Picked up Shappe error..which I'm sure I overspent on big time!





Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 6:22 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Dave, what is the error on the Shappe, if you don't mind me asking?

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Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 6:25 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric...nothing exciting..just mispelled Shappe instead of Sharpe. printing plate error. The two recorded sale are a SGC 20 for $565 and a 30 for $1,182.50...I can't see this crossing over to a PSA 4 or SGC 50 though...looks like a 3 to me.



Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 6:34 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Well based on those two sales, I don't think you did that bad. And I learned something tonight.

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Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 7:07 PM
Posted By: msassin (Collector)



<< Picked up Shappe error..which I'm sure I overspent on big time! >>



Very nice pick up. Nice price when compared to the SGC cards as well.




Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 8:00 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

You got balls, Dave. Those kinds of cards scare me. Too many cardboard alchemists out there for me to touch one of those.

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Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 8:16 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve....probably right..but at least it was graded...even though by Beckett. I'm gonna try crossing it anyway.



Date Posted: Jun/27/2007 8:22 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Good luck! I think you'll be OK, but I'm just too skeptical of stuff like blank backs or printing plate errors to really want to go after them.

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 06/27/2007 20:23:28|U



Date Posted: Jun/29/2007 5:11 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Here's my last two HOF pickups. I've got one more coming in and that's it for a while.





Have a good weekend everyone!

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Date Posted: Jun/29/2007 1:40 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric please don't tell me PSA is that bad.....is there a 6 wrote on the back of the Lajoie and it's not marked as MK?



Date Posted: Jun/29/2007 7:04 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Yep. I bought it as a PSA 2. Then when I got it, saw that it was marked on the back with the "6". I asked the guy I bought it from why it didn't have an (MK) designation. He said he never noticed it. It was the first thing I noticed.

So I guess the answer to your question is.....yes they are.

And if I ever sell it, then I guess I have to say that it's marked even though it doesn't have that designation.

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Date Posted: Jun/29/2007 8:26 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Wow...and we are supposed to rely on a third party grading service to be our own "eyes" when we are not face to face with a card...that isn't like one faint stray mark that is hard to see disguised on the front of the card in a dark area.....plain as day number wrote on back.....you probably handled the seller alot better than I would have though....didn't see the mark when he had it, my butt! ha ha



Date Posted: Jun/30/2007 6:37 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Came from a board member.....if you know what I mean. Only showed the front scan. I bought 3 cards at the time.

I guess leave it to the grading service to give someone the opportunity to sell it as a non (MK). I wouldn't do that myself, because it wouldn't feel right. Nor would I want to piss anyone off. I'm sure as I get more into this hobby, I'll be quite a bit more selective and will voice my opinion on things like this. Right now I guess I'm too calm and collected, and will deal with it.

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Date Posted: Jun/30/2007 7:22 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric I'd be interested to know who that is...through an email.

These arrived today...a couple starting off the harder to come by cards. Better scans as well.






Date Posted: Jun/30/2007 8:13 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Dave,

Ah, there's the lundgren

Nice Hindu as well. How many of those do you have now?

And I'll send you an email tonight regarding your question.

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Date Posted: Jul/01/2007 5:39 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric
I just have the one Hindu for now. I used to have a couple Hindu's, a Carolina Brights back and a Black Lenox....and should pop myself upside the head with an iron skillet for getting rid of them to begin with.



Date Posted: Jul/01/2007 7:27 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Dave,

I had an ungraded Carolina Brights, but I sold that one. No Hindus, and no Lenox's.

That lenox that you had....did you sell it, then buy it back and sell it again? Just curious, because for some reason I thought I saw that it came into your possession twice (the same cards).

And hopefully in about a week or two, I'll be able to post something pretty cool. I shouldn't have bought it but I wanted it. Stay tuned!

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Date Posted: Jul/01/2007 6:46 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Here's my Elberfeld Portrait, Washington variation. It's in great shape for a PSA 1. Has that pin hole at the top, but it doesn't interfere with the Portrait itself. And the (MK) is for a line through the factory line on the back. Still very happy to have this one.



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Date Posted: Jul/02/2007 5:51 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

just picked up this -





Date Posted: Jul/02/2007 8:17 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Bummer about the Lajoie, crazy. The 6 wouldn't really bother me a ton and it could possibly be erased but one should expect more from PSA. Boneheaded grading like that is one of the big reasons I'm finished with them. On the bright side, that Elberfeld looks really good for the grade. Nice pick-up.

jlb, I fear that sigline is going to be there awhile. Not that St. Louis fans have much to cheer about, but what an abrupt end to what looked like a promising era for the Sabres.

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Date Posted: Jul/02/2007 7:11 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric,
I'll wait and see what you post in the next week or two.... I have something in the works here myself....if I pull it off will post in the next week as well....could be interesting.



Date Posted: Jul/03/2007 4:54 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)

Some grades popped -

PSA Order Status for Submission # 619286


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 40630327 1911 SWEET CAPORAL ROGER BRESNAHAN PORTRAIT 3
2 40630328 1911 SOVEREIGN SOLLY HOFMAN N/A 3
3 40630329 1911 DANNY MURPHY THROWING 4
4 40630330 1911 PIEDMONT DICK EGAN N/A 3
5 40630331 1911 TOLSTOI FRED SNODGRASS CATCHING 1

Date Received: 06/22/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 07/02/2007
Date Shipped: 07/02/2007


The Bresnahan came raw off the bay for $50, the other 4 I picked up at a local show for a combined $80. (Pics on page 24 oF this thread I believe..)



Date Posted: Jul/03/2007 5:26 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

jlb...looks like you did very well. Can't really beat that! Congrats.

And Dave....my deal ended up working out. So it's mine, and I will post as soon as I get it. Playing the damn waiting game. This one just might out do the Elberfeld (Wash) for me!!!!

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Date Posted: Jul/03/2007 6:20 AM
Posted By: jlbsquared (Veteran)



<< jlb...looks like you did very well. Can't really beat that! Congrats. >>



Thanks crazy - these were my first raw buys after I started collecting t206s, and I'm just glad I didn't buy anything fake or trimmed.



Date Posted: Jul/03/2007 6:37 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Yeah, I tried my hand at a few raw cards. Turns out one was trimmed, and totally took it out of me to collect them. I'm down to only owning one now. It's a Bill Hart (SL) card. I'll post it when I get home. That one is actually a nice card, that I plan to send off to get graded.

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Date Posted: Jul/03/2007 10:50 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Hi all,

This is my first post of these forums. I believe I'm the only T206 collector in the Europe - definitely in the United Kingdom. I love the images of the cards posted on this thread and will add some of my own in the near future.

Will try and figure out my profile now......

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My t206 collection can be seen here

The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/03/2007 12:18 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Welcome Martuk.

I joined for this thread about half a month ago. Some really good guys here, and a great place to display your new pick-ups.

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Date Posted: Jul/05/2007 4:59 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

My new Addie Joss PSA 3 Portrait:



Hope you all had a great 4th of July.

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Date Posted: Jul/05/2007 5:08 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nevermind........There it is.

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 07/05/2007 17:08:33|U



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 2:34 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Nice Eric...I always liked the Joss card for some reason. Your "other" transaction hasn't arrived yet?



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 7:46 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Oh, it has. It actually arrived yesterday, however I'm holding off on posting it for a little longer. That card will be my last new t206 for a while, and I will have nothing new to contribute for a couple months.

I guess I could post some of my existing commons, just to do some posting.

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Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 7:59 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<< Oh, it has. It actually arrived yesterday, however I'm holding off on posting it for a little longer. That card will be my last new t206 for a while, and I will have nothing new to contribute for a couple months.

I guess I could post some of my existing commons, just to do some posting.
>>



I don't care, I want to see it...



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 8:46 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

GoSteelers......

Fine, I'll show it once I scan it in. It's nothing too spectacular.....nothing like a Magie, O'hara (STL), Demmitt (STL), or anything else like that. But it is a big deal for me.

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Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 8:54 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Sorry Eric...I'm letting your cat out of the bag. Guys, its a Bob Unglaub Sweet Cap 350 in a PSA 4...Eric just loves it.



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 9:08 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

In the words of Adam Sandler from Big Daddy:

"Damn you scuba steve!"

Actually Dave....I wouldn't mind having that card

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Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 9:50 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Thanks for the welcome!! And what is the card???

Have some cards to add myself - just a quick question though - what image size are you scanning your cards? I don't want my cards to appear too large on the screen.

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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 10:08 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Martuk
I'm not even sure what size I scan mine in...but if it's too big it won't allow you to post it anyway..so you should be fine.

Dave



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 10:11 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Dave,

Thanks for that - will add some over the weekend

Regards

Martin

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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 11:47 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Martin,

When I scan my Cards, I scan an image of the front first, then the back.

Once scanned, I open the pic up, and cut the image out. I then open up Microsoft Photo Editor, and paste the image there. I usually crop the size down 50%. That gives me the image size you see. Then I do the same with the back and add it with the front image and resave it. If you crop it down 50% you won't have a problem. Hope this helps.

There may be an easier way to do it, but this way is efficient for me.

Edited: I also use photobucket as my photo hosting site. It's free and easy to use. Upload your pictures there and it generates your html coding to post images. If you decide to use that site, copy the third box below the picture. It starts with: [img]

-Eric

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 07/06/2007 11:53:35|U



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 12:14 PM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Thanks Eric,



Here are the first two t206 cards I purchased last Christmas (present to myself) and now I'm hooked.

I created my own site a few months ago to show my cards but simply resize my initial scans on the site with height and width html code. It looks like an html height of about 320 for scanning/saving purposes is about right.

Martin

Didn't scan the backs - one is a Sweet Cap and the other a Piedmont.

Am also looking to add some interesting backs at the moment - only have Sweet Caps (one overprint), Piedmonts, Polar Bears and an Old Mill.

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Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 1:00 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Martin,

Very nice! I'm a newbie myself. I started in January, this year. This was my first T206, and like you, once I had that....I was hooked.



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Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 1:17 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

OK, since I now have the link to my T206 set, I'll just post the new pickup....the one I've been holding out on. Otherwise you guys will just see it. Next to the Elberfeld (Wash), this is my second favorite card.

MY FIRST RED HINDU BACK:



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Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 1:34 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Congrats Eric....I am going to have to pick up a red hindu very soon! I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on my deal...which should take place sometime the beginning of next week.



Date Posted: Jul/06/2007 3:14 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks Dave.

I really hope yours goes through. And when it does, you better post that s#!T on here so we can all just be blown away.....but by that comment we're assuming I know what it is.....but I don't

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Date Posted: Jul/07/2007 12:19 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

WOW!!!!!!

Just checked out what a Red Hindu back means in terms of scarcity and thus price - VERY NICE ADDITION INDEED Eric!!!!!!!

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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/07/2007 9:24 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks Martin.

It's my first tough back, and I hope to one day add some more.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 6:52 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Just picked this up through a trade. I'll hold unto it until I find an upgrade..but nice to have another Lenox backafter getting rid of the first one!
And no, this isn't the "blockbuster" i'm working on!




 07/09/2007 06:55:16|U



Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 8:32 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Very sweet Dave!

I've got to get myself one of those, that's for sure.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 9:42 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nice stuff, guys. Not quite a Red Hindu or Lenox but I have a couple of favorite backs to scan later.

By the way, is that jmckp or whatever it is on here? I'm curious to know about what happened with the GAI 3 O'Hara and his defaulted BIN.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 12:06 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks yawie....

What exactly do you want to know about the O'Hara? I talk to him occationally and might be able to find out.

I can't remember what he was asking about it on the Net54 board. I think if it looked trimmed or something. Anyway, let me know and I'll see what I can find out.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 1:49 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

It's no biggie, really; I was just kinda curious as to his rationale. I saw the card posted the other night and was talking with a buddy about it. My friend and I agreed that the BIN would've been a solid buy on an SGC or PSA card but confidence in GAI probably wasn't enough to justify $3 G's, especially given the width and paste (?) residue on back. I knew there was a chance somebody would pull the trigger on it, but I figured it would end up running as an auction with a hammer price of about $2,500. Anyway, I was surprised to see it relisted today. I'd be pretty livid if I were the seller and a guy backed out on a BIN but I guess they came to some sort of resonable parting of the ways since I didn't see a feedback bloodbath.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 3:44 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

steve...email or PM me. I know what happened.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 5:14 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I'm embarassed to post these after Dave's Lenox but........







Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 6:49 PM
Posted By: preownedautos (Member)

I have a question and I was hoping you guys can help. Perhaps it has already been discussed and if so, just please post a link and I can read it from there. My question is: If the famous Wagner T206 was recently sold for 2.35 Million (or whatever the figure), why does is still show up in the set registry for "Honus & Friends." I understand that it will always show up in the all-time finest set, but it's still showing up in the current finest set as well???

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 7:09 PM
Posted By: artimus (Veteran)





Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 7:16 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Steve....apparently they mutually agreed to nullify the deal....though I too would like to know what happened.

LC....nice additions. That Bender Portrait looks good for a PSA 1. I really like that portrait and will definitely have to go after one.

preownedautos....my guess is that the buyer wanted to stay anonymous and won't be registering that Wagner. Therefore "Honus and Friends" doesn't get the email that is generated when you try to register a card that is already in the registry. So until that happens, which it won't, he won't have to remove it.


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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 7:54 PM
Posted By: jmpkcp (Member)

Yeah, I'm on here....so the O'hara situation....the seller was very understanding. I wanted some built in protection as I felt the card looked narrow myself. But I fully understand the seller's hesitancy to do so, so we just mutually agreed to let someone else take it on. In retrospect, I now feel that the card is NOT too thin and would fall into proper parameters. I'm just so used to PSA holders that it looked out of place to me. Whoever gets it now is likely getting a good deal.

Any further questions?





Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 8:02 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Joe,

Thanks for filling us in. I'm always hesitant to pull the trigger on a card not in a PSA or SGC holder. GAI might grade something a 3, but if its cracked and resubmitted to PSA it may not even grade. I'd hate for that to happen to me. Thanks again.


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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 8:30 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Scott,
Nothing to be embarrassed about..are you kidding? That Bender is a pretty nice looking 1 too....one of my favorite portrait poses.



Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 8:32 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< Any further questions? >>



Just one: Why on earth would you hit the BIN on a $3,000 card then ask the questions?!? You're lucky you had an understanding seller.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 8:36 PM
Posted By: jmpkcp (Member)

Well, seeing that I have been in the biz for almost 25 years, and know the proper protocol.....I'd say the reason for me doing so, using medical terminology is....

BRAIN FART!!!!

That is why I was very kind in my words to the seller. I let him keep the $18 in shipping I paid for and helped him cancel the transaction through eBay to avoid auction fees.



Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 9:29 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That's cool. That guy should have some good karma coming back to him. Sounds like you went from a case of immediate buyer's remorse to delayed non-buyer's remorse. Oh well, there have been a fair amount of Demmitts and O'Haras available this year. You'll find one.

And I'm guessing "Trimmed!" was the knee-jerk response of a lot of collectors, but that probably has more to do with the holder than with the card itself. My degenerate gambler days are long over, but I'd be willing to bet it'd grade with the other two major graders. That said, I don't think I'd bet that it would grade higher than a 2. Still a pretty attractive card, though.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 10:27 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Just finished scanning my two new cards:



I'm sure I overpaid for this since I was the only one who bid on it - ugh - but I've been wanting an Ames portrait and couldn't resist one with a Hindu back.



Needham seems to be one of those cards that always has weak registration and this one certainly fits that pattern. I'll probably keep my eyes out for a nice crisp one, but I couldn't pass up an AB 460, a deceptively difficult back if you axe me, at a decent price.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2007 10:30 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

By the way, the Benders are great. Love the portrait. That's another card I sometimes see with registration issues. There's often a kind of shadow effect where the dark ink was struck a bit higher than the other colors, but yours looks nice, LC.

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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 2:30 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Steve,
Did the Ames Hindu come off ebay? I'm guessing so since you said your the only one that bid on it....but damn if I saw it...



Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 8:20 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Yeah, both of the cards were from london_venture. He has some strange closing times to his auctions. The Ames opened at $149.95, which is about $25-50 more than I would've liked to have spent on a lower-grade Hindu, but that's how it goes, I guess: Ya want something bad enough, you'll pay for it.

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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 8:39 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Guys
Thanks for the kind words, they're appreciated.

Steve
Great cards as usual. You must have a pretty nice selection of Hindu's at this point.

Scott



Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 2:01 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Thanks! I'm up to 16 Hindus now. Probably the most I have of any one type besides the obvious Sweet Cap and Piedmont. Well, now that I think about it, I probably have more Polar Bears, too. I really like the dark look of the PB reverse - not to mention tobacco staining on the obverse - and will generally opt for a PB over other common backs when possible.

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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 5:23 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Just wonderful cards and scans here lately.

Steve, Great snag on that Ames Hindu; nice. 16 Hindu's; wow!

I thought I would share a number of recent EPDG acquisitions. My T206 EPDG Back set is coming along nicely. The Anderson was a previously unverified EPDG (first siting) and I was especially happy to get that one.
Enjoy.
RayB






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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 5:51 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

A couple more EPDG's of the HOF variety recently added also:





RayB

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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 5:56 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Ray
Beautiful cards and glad to see you back. It's been awhile.


scott



Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 6:55 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Ray,

Nice EPDG's.

And Steve leading the way on Hindus. 16? Dang!


Great cards everyone.

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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 7:08 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray has always been one with great eye appeal....congrats Ray...that much tougher I know when your only looking for one back...and in honor of Ray's EPDG's, I'll again (shameless plug) post my only current..(for a short time anyway)....its currently being crossed over...






Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 8:47 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That Marquard gets around. Hopefully its found a place to hang its hat with you, Ray. I know the back of the Lajoie has some issues, but I think the color is fantastic. My kinda card!

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Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 10:09 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Great additions everyone! Incredible, really.

Also, welcome Martuk.


I won't bore everyone with scans of the few commons I have picked up recently.



Doug



Date Posted: Jul/10/2007 10:37 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

ahhhh I'll bore you guys.





Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 4:54 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)



<< Great additions everyone! Incredible, really.

Also, welcome Martuk.


I won't bore everyone with scans of the few commons I have picked up recently.



Doug
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Aw c'mon Doug, no worry; we love the commons!! Please show.
RayB

And how bout' that Elberfeld; that has really sweet color and centering. Gorgeous card.

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Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 5:32 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Dave,

edited: Nevermind....for some reason I thought you had two of these cards. I was deceived. Your pics are much better then the ones that were in the auction, and thus thought it was two cards. Anyway, very nice again. And you can show it a couple more times if you'd like. We don't mind.

Doug...I agree.....show those commons. We don't mind one bit!

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Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 5:37 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric....heck no...I just scanned it in better when I got it, (had it all of two days before it went to SGC). We should find out the verdict today on it crossing over...and hopefully the outcome of my "trade".



Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 5:40 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Yeah, I just realized it Dave.

Please let us know as soon as you find out both outcomes. I'm pretty excited for you bro.

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Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 12:22 PM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

A request to the T206 collectors, could you please post which cards you thing have the best/most color to them. I really enjoy looking at the T206 that have a lot of color to them in the backgrounds. I would like to get an idea of what is out there in this set. They can be some of the best cards of any set produce when they have such a great amount of color.

Thanks,



Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 12:27 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< A request to the T206 collectors, could you please post which cards you thing have the best/most color to them. I really enjoy looking at the T206 that have a lot of color to them in the backgrounds. I would like to get an idea of what is out there in this set. They can be some of the best cards of any set produce when they have such a great amount of color. >>



Here's one of my favorites



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Date Posted: Jul/11/2007 4:37 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Here's one of my favorites with a lot of color:



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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 4:35 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Thanks guys, keep them coming. Those are exactly what I am looking for, would like to maybe pick up a few colorful ones in low grade.



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 6:39 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

No problem Kirk,

Hey, going with this theme.....anyone know the T206 card that has something in the background like the Statue of Liberty. It's a Brooklyn player, but I can't remember for the life of me who it was. That was a pretty colorful card and would be a great one to show here. It's one that I would like to pick up myself. Any help in figuring this out would be much appreciated.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 6:44 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Your thinking of the Burch (Batting)...but I don't know that it is really the Statue of Liberty in the background. Sorry no scan..dont have one.



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 6:47 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I also like the Hugh Duffy card. It has some beautiful color in it.




The Danny Murphy card. Love the sky in the background:




Actually of the 6 horizontal cards in the set, all show really vibrant colors.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 7:07 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



That is pretty cool, though not sure what it is??



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 9:02 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Ah, Dave!!!! I knew I could rely on you. That's the card.

I don't know if it's the statue of Liberty either, but it kind of does look like it. Or a church? Who knows.

Edited to remove card. I didn't see that Kirk had already posted it.

Very nice card, by the way. I want one!

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 9:21 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Gentlemen and you other guys, I've sealed the deal I've been talking about for a week now. I'll post scans a bit later today



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 9:38 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Hey guys, does this card look off. I realized it is off center T/B but seems like there should be a little more border on the top compared to what is on the bottom, opinions please.





Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 9:45 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I've seen shorter T206's get slabbed, but the sharpness of those edges makes one wonder.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 9:47 AM
Posted By: mkg809 (Collector)

Hey guys, does this card look off. I realized it is off center T/B but seems like there should be a little more border on the top compared to what is on the bottom, opinions please.

I agree, it looks a little funky. There should be more on the top or bottom. How does it measure up compared to your others?



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 10:08 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Actually it is not mine, I thought it looked very sharp for a PSA 4. The top border looks too straight and corners too sharp. Though it is in a holder, something seem off.



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 10:10 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Slightly off-topic mini-rant: Who the hell puts reserves on PSA 3 and 4 T206 commons?!?

It's a rhetorical question, really, but if you're curious, it's kityoungcards.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 10:52 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Who puts a reserve on 3's and 4's?????

Well probably someone that won't be selling a lot of cards. Good luck to them.

Dave...congrats on your deal. I can't wait to see those cards. Very sweet that you were successful. I'm pretty jelous

That Needham looks a bit odd, but who in the hell would trim a common just to get a PSA 4? The back looks fine though, so maybe it was printed a little high and then cut? It's gotta meet the specifications to get graded, otherwise they wouldn't grade it because it was trimmed, especially for a common. Why take that risk to let it through. With that top boarder being so short, you'd think the grader would have measured it. I'm not a grader, but that would be the first thing I'd check when a card looked like that.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 11:36 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

You must've missed the recent Joe O. column, crazy. Graders don't need no stinkin' tools. Just the savvy and guile that comes with years and years of experience. Or something like that.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 12:01 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Here the are guys...been waiting a week on this deal. Don't have them in hand yet, but we sealed the deal this morning.






Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 12:35 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Un-freakin-believable! I don't know how you do it. I want those two backs really badly.

And they look really good. You didn't just get a beater to have one, like I did with my Red Hindu. Yours look awesome.

Well congrats again Dave.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 2:32 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

As an avowed armpit collector, I am very rarely jealous of others' cards. But, man, Dave I'm so envious of the fact that you were able to flip/trade into those two. Fantastic job!

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 4:06 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I'll diddo Steve's comment

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 5:09 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Thanks guys....I'm unlucky as often as I am lucky though. I'm curious Steve I know you have a bunch of Hindu's..what else do you have though as far as the backs?



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 5:31 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nothing yet in your lofty stratosphere, Dave. I'm kinda curious myself, though, so lemme do a quick count (in alphabetical order since I'm too lazy to change my Excel sort):


AB 350 w/ frame - 6
AB 350 w/o frame - 3
AB 460 - 2
CB - 3
CYC 350 - 6
CYC 460 - 2
EPDG - 10
HIN - 16
OM (including SL) - 13
PB - 26
PD 150 - 38
PD 350 - 87
PD 350-460/25 - 12
SC 150/25 - 9
SC 150/30 - 19
SC 150/649 OP - 4
SC 350/25 - 9
SC 350/30 - 25
SC 350-460/30 - 4
SC 350-460/42 - 2
SC 350-460/42 OP - 5
SOV 150 - 7
SOV 350 - 4
SOV 460 - 1
TOL - 4


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Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 9:55 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Awesome backs, Dave!

Here's a recent pick up of mine. It seems like a bright 4. The scan seems dimmer than it is in person.



Doug



Date Posted: Jul/12/2007 11:42 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Nice cards, everyone!

Finally completed the cobb series! The scan isnt so great...scanner isnt healthy.



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Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 4:22 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

This is a 3??





Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 4:54 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ha...that looks like a 1 to me...but what do I know?

Damn..I was going for the Uzit PSA 3 last night on ebay...missed, came in third. What a clean back for a 3 though...I guess it would have been to much to ask to try and upgrade already

Uzit PSA 3



Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 5:06 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Beautifal front to the card as well!!



Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 5:45 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Trying to hog all the Uzit backs are we

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Green Cobb.

And that's a quite.....ah....nice..................ah..........PSA 3. Huh, that one seems to have slipped by them.

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Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 5:48 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

It probably had some surface wrinkling you cant tell from the scan..but when it comes to the rare backs, you definately want ones like that which are clean. And Eric...no, unfortunatley I cant afford to hog all of them...I would have been upgrading and selling mine to Steve already...or picking up a bunch of his Hindu's for the SGC 30...ha ha

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Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 5:50 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Plus...I tried to get it too cheap...PSA 3 Merkle with that clean of a back...should have been $1400-1800.



Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 6:14 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That Uzit Merkle was really, really nice. I really wanted to bid but then decided to show some rare financial restraint, thinking I should maybe hold out for a St. Louis Uzit back. When I saw a dealer win it, I knew I let a great opportunity pass.

Great Cobb, Danby. I had that one tracked and thought of bidding on it, too, but was happy to see someone from this thread snag it.

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Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 9:05 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Wow,

I've missed some incredible additions this last week! Been working other sets so nothing to add until the mail arrives (and we have a postal strike today - oh well....)

Martin

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Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 10:40 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Martin,

Where is the postal strike?

Edited to say: I'm assuming outside the U.S? Federal employees are prohibited from going on strikes.

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Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 12:48 PM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Eric, the postal strike is in the United Kingdom.

Its the second in about three weeks and they want to have a two day strike next week.

Its more annoying as an ebay seller than buyer though especially with the star rating system ebay has now introduced because this will increase postage times and I have a feeling some buyers won't remember this when leaving feedback.

Also as a question to all contributors in this thread do you also collect other sets?

I'm also collecting Prime Cuts I, II and III (about 120 cards combined) plus Flair Significant Signings 2005 (64-102).

I love the T206's and Prime Cuts I more than the rest though.

There was also a comment on the previous page of the thread about an ebay seller who put reserves on PSA 3 and 4's. I don't think thats as bad as one of the other T206 ebay sellers (they have about 10-15 cards on right now) charging international shipping costs of $66.40 for one card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frightening when you consider that most sellers charge $5-9 and I have never had an item I purchased though ebay not arrive.................

Have a good weekend all

Martin



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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/13/2007 5:20 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I just got back into baseball cards this year, so right now I am only concentrating on T-206s. I like a lot of the vintage stuff. I'd like to eventually get into Goudeys, E-95's and some other stuff. But we'll see.

Martin,

Charging $66 for international shipping? That is crazy. My guess is the seller only wants to deal within the states. But instead of doing that, he could just say no international bidders. That's a little rediculous.



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Date Posted: Jul/15/2007 12:42 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

This arrived yesterday - no big shakes compared to some of the card images recently posted but my first Old Mill back so am very happy.



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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/15/2007 5:16 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Martin,

That's a good looking 3! I don't have a single Old Mill yet.

I'll start covering some of the other backs, in a couple months. I'm done buying for a while. I need to recuperate funds and I have the wifes birthday coming up. Actually I might be done (for the most part) for the year. I'll start back in 08. But in the meantime, I'll enjoy all your guys cards. Keep 'em coming!

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Date Posted: Jul/17/2007 7:56 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Continuing on my backs pursuit....this one is ugly...but for $55 will suffice as my first Broadleaf until a prettier gal comes to the dance.





Date Posted: Jul/18/2007 6:22 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Dave,

I saw that one yesterday. Nice grab. Can't really beat that price!

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Date Posted: Jul/18/2007 8:19 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



Do you guys see more than just a baseball card here?? I just happen to be nosing through Ebay and this one caught my eye.

To me I look at this card and see factories and buildings in the background, this card to me almost tells a story. The beginning of the American industrial might, cities building tall skyscrapers, etc.



Date Posted: Jul/18/2007 10:34 AM
Posted By: gamehunter (Member)

Ray, I picked up Bernhard T206 raw on eBay earlier this year for only $150 and it came back a 5. Needless to say, I was thrilled about that one.



Date Posted: Jul/18/2007 2:54 PM
Posted By: bengineno9 (Veteran)

Stingray,
That is one of my favorites!
And to this day KC still looks the same.

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Date Posted: Jul/18/2007 7:09 PM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

My first PSA graded one, hope the colors look this good in person"





Date Posted: Jul/18/2007 8:47 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Sting
Looks like a really nice 2....congrats.

Scott



Date Posted: Jul/19/2007 8:54 AM
Posted By: fandango (Expert Collector)

How Come the PSA 8 Wagner does not show up on the population reports.....

Scott Ireland has a PSA 5 Wagner in his set, and it states only 1 graded that high, with none graded higher....

how can this be correct?

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Date Posted: Jul/20/2007 7:38 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Does anyone know of a seller/website besides ebay, that I can look for some T206s say in PSA 3 or 4 grade, I have check 707s website and a couple others, just wondering if they are some ones out there where you can maybe pick up some low grade commons for not so much money as the bigger dealers want.

Thanks,



Date Posted: Jul/20/2007 7:52 AM
Posted By: mikeschmidt (:-))



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how can this be correct?
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It's not. It just shows up in a different place.

Year Company Card No Name Variety 1-2 3-4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Total
1911 T206 HONUS WAGNER 22 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 27
1911 T206 HONUS WAGNER 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
1911 T206 HONUS WAGNER McNALL/GRETZKY 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1

In other words, the McNall/Gretzky Wagner has its own special place in the population report.

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Date Posted: Jul/21/2007 2:49 PM
Posted By: Pittfan (Veteran)

I need a little help from you t206 guys. I'm am looking to buy a Walter Johnson raw hands at chest piedmont back. I believe it would grade about a 3, any idea on what a fair price for a three would go for?

Thanks
Ken



Date Posted: Jul/21/2007 5:24 PM
Posted By: fandango (Expert Collector)

i got it thanks mike!

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Date Posted: Jul/21/2007 5:25 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Unless your really familiar with T206's to begin with...I would suggest finding a graded example. To big of a chance if it being trimmed, altered, etc. But if your fairly confident you don't have that issue...a PSA 3 or 40 could range from $450-550 for a hands at chest. I would also suggest if you think its a 3...then take into consideration it maybe a 2....which would range from about $250-$400 depending on looks.



Date Posted: Jul/21/2007 7:10 PM
Posted By: Pittfan (Veteran)

Thanks asphaltman76 I believe I will take the graded route.



Date Posted: Jul/23/2007 7:45 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Latest pickup





Date Posted: Jul/23/2007 9:00 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

My friend Dave is quitely putting together a serious back collection. Congrats bud.



Date Posted: Jul/24/2007 4:27 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< Sting
Looks like a really nice 2....congrats.

Scott
>>




Received the card yesterday, looks much better than a 2, IMO. There is a little staining on the back of the card that does not show on the front and only one corner is really rounded the other three are dull, but not rounded. Colors are great on the card.



Date Posted: Jul/24/2007 5:03 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Dave,
That Barry card is amazing. Very impressive!
You probably need a fire extinguisher for your wallet on that one!
RayB

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Date Posted: Jul/24/2007 6:03 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Scott...

Just a matter of time before you start chasing backs!


Ray,
Thanks...its definately one of those cards that portrays the type characteristics that you've always seemed to chase down. I've seen uglier PSA 5's.



Date Posted: Jul/24/2007 6:36 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

That is a nice card, but what is up with the eye brows??



Date Posted: Jul/24/2007 7:29 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)



<<
Ray,
Thanks...its definately one of those cards that portrays the type characteristics that you've always seemed to chase down. I've seen uglier PSA 5's.
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Dave,
I'm serious; that's one of the nicer T206's I've seen in that grade level. The clarity, centering and cleanliness of the back of that card is really special. I know you have turned over some T206's in the past but this card is a real keeper. You should be very proud to own that one. Congrats again.
Wow.
RayB

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Date Posted: Jul/24/2007 7:41 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Ray,
I acquired it from MVSNYC over on Net54. He is putting a massive back collection together in high grade as you might already know. He just upgraded his Carolina Brights to a 5, and honestly cut me a deal on this one. It is definately a keeper. As for now I'm up to this CB, a Drum, a Uzit, black Lenox, Hindu, and a beater Broadleaf 350. I am still needing to find a red hindu. Then my plan is to upgrade a little at time, when I come up on a nicer Uzit I'll sell the one I have....and go about it that way.

But yes..no wrinkles or anything on the Carolina Brights..best I can think is there is that really light staining on the back..other than that nothing.



Date Posted: Jul/25/2007 7:11 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<< This is a 3??

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Looks a little rough for a PSA 3, but I have seen worse in that grade. Lets call it a 3-, maybe a 2+++



Date Posted: Jul/26/2007 5:01 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

sonoranmonsoon,

huh! That looks like a 1. It just amazes me what some of the older cards look like for the grade they get. When you purchased it (or traded for it), did you have decent scans to look at, or at least see it in person? And did the seller describe it correctly? My guess is...NO?

And Dave, very nice CB back.

I'm still on collecting hiatus, so I will just enjoy all of your guys cards.

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Date Posted: Jul/26/2007 6:37 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< sonoranmonsoon,

huh! That looks like a 1. It just amazes me what some of the older cards look like for the grade they get. When you purchased it (or traded for it), did you have decent scans to look at, or at least see it in person? And did the seller describe it correctly? My guess is...NO?

And Dave, very nice CB back.

I'm still on collecting hiatus, so I will just enjoy all of your guys cards.
>>




Look up a few posts, I posted this from an Ebay auction. I know that grades on low end of the scale can be subjective to a degree, but in T206s I see 2s that look like 4s and 4s that look like 2s.



Date Posted: Jul/26/2007 8:10 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<< sonoranmonsoon,

huh! That looks like a 1. It just amazes me what some of the older cards look like for the grade they get. When you purchased it (or traded for it), did you have decent scans to look at, or at least see it in person? And did the seller describe it correctly? My guess is...NO?
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Crazy: It is not my card, I was just added my humble opinion on a previous post on this thread. I probably was giving the card a bit too much credit with my statement (did not want to upset the owner too much), but I have seen worse PSA 3's (admittedly not many). 2 sounds fair, I think a 1 is a bit harsh. Just an opinion, nobody pays me to grade cards.



Date Posted: Jul/26/2007 5:19 PM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Has anyone noticed the shipping costs on some of the T206 auctions?? $7.50, $8, $10 for low end cards. I can see spending a little more for an expensive card if it has DC and insurance. Just wondering if anyone else thought this was excessive. I guess it can happen with all cards, but since I have been watching the T206s a little more closely on Ebay, seems that I have noticed it with them.



Date Posted: Jul/26/2007 5:35 PM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<< Has anyone noticed the shipping costs on some of the T206 auctions?? $7.50, $8, $10 for low end cards. I can see spending a little more for an expensive card if it has DC and insurance. Just wondering if anyone else thought this was excessive. I guess it can happen with all cards, but since I have been watching the T206s a little more closely on Ebay, seems that I have noticed it with them. >>



To answer your question directly, thoes shipping costs seem excessive for low end material.
It will hurt them in the star feedback rating. One interesting thing I did find out. When the USPS raised their rates, they also changed their way of sorting. The new sorting machines can really damage graded material. Basic bubble envelopes sent regular 1st class mail are now at an increased risk of getting chewed up if they are too thick. Last month I received one PCGS coin chopped to bits, and 2 PSA cards I sent out were damaged. I now ship only in small cardboard boxes and pay at least the package rate. This has raised my costs a bit, but will save me a lot of headaches with returns and unhappy customers. Not to mention the cost of reslabbing them! My latest purchase that arrived last week (sorry, I did not take picks of the 2 t206's that were damaged):



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Date Posted: Jul/27/2007 12:18 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)



<< Has anyone noticed the shipping costs on some of the T206 auctions?? $7.50, $8, $10 for low end cards. I can see spending a little more for an expensive card if it has DC and insurance. Just wondering if anyone else thought this was excessive. I guess it can happen with all cards, but since I have been watching the T206s a little more closely on Ebay, seems that I have noticed it with them. >>



It varies by seller. But, I have seen a few high profile T206 sellers charge big shipping on their cards. I hesitate to buy from them, but when they have something that ive been searching for, i'll bite.

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Date Posted: Jul/27/2007 12:26 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Reading Dave's post about E97s and T204s on the net54 board got me wondering....

All of us here knows that collecting T206s is a long, financially laborious process. But, as collectors (by our nature) we tend to get lured by other sets.

So, my question to all of you guys is what other sets besides the T206 are you currently collecting? And how has collecting that set impacted your purchases of T206s?

I can start:

In addition to T206s, i collect 1915 CJs and HOF rookies. Both are obviously popular and fairly expensive sets/collections to pursue. But, I love the CJ design (and their place in American folklore)...and I love pursuing HOF rookies because it allows be to collect cards from different sets.

How has collecting these sets impacted my pursue of completing the T206? Well, it's allowed me to focus, that's a given. Now that my extra cash is being siphoned to these other two sets, ive been forced to collect the T206s I think 1.) Will either maintain or increase their value, so it would be smart to get them now and 2.) i like because of the design and/or player (for instance, i am trying to get a nice tinker and m brown portrait because i like portraits with red backgrounds). Hence, my lack of posting recent purchases in this specific thread. My latest T206 purchase was a green cobb...which happens to fit both criterion established above.

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Date Posted: Jul/27/2007 5:46 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Latest pickup from member sonoranmonsoon, THANKS!!






Date Posted: Jul/29/2007 2:11 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)



<< Latest pickup from member sonoranmonsoon, THANKS!!


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That looks like a really strong 4!!

Am not sure how the rest iof you feel but I do prefer the t206 cards with an interesting multi-coloured background with sky, field, trees, buildings, etc....?

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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/29/2007 2:18 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)



<< Reading Dave's post about E97s and T204s on the net54 board got me wondering....

All of us here knows that collecting T206s is a long, financially laborious process. But, as collectors (by our nature) we tend to get lured by other sets.

So, my question to all of you guys is what other sets besides the T206 are you currently collecting? And how has collecting that set impacted your purchases of T206s?

I can start:

In addition to T206s, i collect 1915 CJs and HOF rookies. Both are obviously popular and fairly expensive sets/collections to pursue. But, I love the CJ design (and their place in American folklore)...and I love pursuing HOF rookies because it allows be to collect cards from different sets.

How has collecting these sets impacted my pursue of completing the T206? Well, it's allowed me to focus, that's a given. Now that my extra cash is being siphoned to these other two sets, ive been forced to collect the T206s I think 1.) Will either maintain or increase their value, so it would be smart to get them now and 2.) i like because of the design and/or player (for instance, i am trying to get a nice tinker and m brown portrait because i like portraits with red backgrounds). Hence, my lack of posting recent purchases in this specific thread. My latest T206 purchase was a green cobb...which happens to fit both criterion established above.
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I also collect Prime Cuts I and Flairs Significant Signings 2005. I was into both sets before discovering the t206 and tend to switch between the sets depending on whats available on e-bay. I'm pretty much resticted in what I can buy pretty much to ebay because of my location, living in England and I find that only about 50% of the t206 sellers will sell worldwide. In some cases asking a seller if they will ship to me results in a positive (strong feedback and an obvious passion as a collector helps in this regard).

Like you say though the t206 can get mighty expensive. One bonus as a collector in the current economic climate is the weakness of the dollar against the pound which gives me about 15% more spending power than when I started collecting 2+ years ago.

I do not however have the funds to start another vintage set..........

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My t206 collection can be seen here

The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/29/2007 7:04 AM
Posted By: jimq112 (Expert Collector)

Can anybody give me an idea what this card sells for in the real world? My father in law bought it raw and it just popped. He's not sure if he wants to keep it or sell it so I'm asking for estimates. We don't really know anything at all about 206s. Thanks!

20 31836595 1911 SWEET CAPORAL ADDIE JOSS PITCHING 4

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Date Posted: Jul/29/2007 7:19 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Here are some current ones up on Ebay, though none are a PSA 4, might help to give you a price range.


LINK


On a different subject, I will be going to the national on Saturday, what should I expect as far as dealers with PSA graded T206s, I just mean commons in PSA 3-5 range?? Just a few dealers or expect a good variety??


Kirk



Date Posted: Jul/29/2007 12:23 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Jim, unfortunately like most T206's the Joss "pitching" doesn't bring what the Joss portrait does. A Joss pitching in a PSA 4 is in the $150-175 range.

Dave



Date Posted: Jul/29/2007 6:56 PM
Posted By: jimq112 (Expert Collector)

Thanks guys, we really didn't have any idea. It's worth a lot more than he paid, so he's happy. After I told him a little about joss he decided to keep it and he's looking for more joss stuff now

thanks again!

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Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 4:56 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Not a question of the seller, only of the card. Small top border, but bottom border is not bigger in size??

LINK



Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 5:14 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

It's not mine...but any of you guys wanting a Drum......the BIN is too much but looks like he'd accept best offers.

link



Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 6:07 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Saw that this morning, in reality what should a card like this go for, or is it something that rare that it is hard to put a price on it??

P.S. - Speaking of T206 card backs, what is your favorite one. I have not researched all of them as of yet, but I like the look of the Carolina Brights that was posted a few threads ago.


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Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 6:25 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Drums are the hardest T206 back to come by....as well as Broadleaf 460's. I think alot of back collectors though would rather have a Drum, since you can pick up Broadleaf 350's pretty easily. Drums were only made for a very short time period with 350 back subjects. Estimates that I've seen from far more educated people in the field put a total number of Drums still in existance at around 200-300. Lower grade Drums like this, I would put at $1000 per numerical grade....so $1000 for this card would be decent....it actually was in an auction a few months back and went for $1200 plus the juice. My Drum is an SGC 30, and wouldn't sell it for less than $2000. But again, they are so rare I wouldn't even consider selling mine unless I already had one lined up to buy.

I do love the Carolina Brights back....that was mine posted a few days ago...terrific looking for a 4. My favorite back though is probably UZIT.


Dave



Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 6:29 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I dont think I'll get tired of posting them...ya'll will get tired of seeing them though

Here are mine...the Drum is an SGC 30, the Uzit is an SGC 30 and the CB is a PSA 4





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Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 6:34 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Also my Mcgraw PSA 2 Lenox back





Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 6:42 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

No, won't get tired of seeing them!! That UZIT is pretty cool looking not as fancy as the others, but colors sure stand out.



Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 6:51 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

That's quite the collection you've got there, Dave.

WOW!

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Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 9:57 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Totally agree with that - awesome cards Dave!!!!

Added my first Cycle last night - will scan when it arrives.....

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My t206 collection can be seen here

The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Jul/30/2007 1:21 PM
Posted By: msassin (Collector)

Very nice collection of tough backs!



In reference to what else did T206's make you collect....I think it led me into T202's, it is only 20% complete (and will take a long time to ever move up much)

My T202's

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Date Posted: Jul/31/2007 4:57 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Great stuff, everyone. Here's one I just received:





Date Posted: Jul/31/2007 4:25 PM
Posted By: vintagetoppsguy (Collector)

Nevermind!

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My T206 HOF Set

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Date Posted: Aug/06/2007 5:27 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nobody has added anything for about a week. Thought I'd bring it back to the top.

Any new pick-ups out there?

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Date Posted: Aug/06/2007 7:28 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

bump



Date Posted: Aug/06/2007 7:29 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I'm trying to work on a pickup....just much more time consuming going after the rare backs....definately have to keep patient.



Date Posted: Aug/06/2007 7:49 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I've picked up some stuff, just been a little lazy with the scanning. Waiting on a Matty portrait that gives me all 3 of his cards. I'll put that up when it arrives.



Date Posted: Aug/06/2007 7:54 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Another one that I picked up recently. Is SGC okay to show???





Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 4:33 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

SGC is okay to show in my book Mark. Half of my collection now consists of SGC cards!



Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 4:43 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

A couple of T206s that I picked up from the National:





Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 4:57 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

what kind of prices were the T206's going for at the national? ebay equivalent?

also..did you notice many t206 rare backs there? ie, drums, uzits, red hindu's, lenox's?



Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 5:00 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< what kind of prices were the T206's going for at the national? ebay equivalent?

also..did you notice many t206 rare backs there? ie, drums, uzits, red hindu's, lenox's?
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Pretty much book price!! To be honest I can not say for sure if anyone had those rare backs for sale or not, saw so many different cards it is all a blurr.



Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 10:37 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Great looking cards Stingray (very good looking 4's) and Gosteelers. I have no problem with SGC being shown. I only have one, and it's an EPDG back.

Dave,

If you don't mind me asking, which back are you working on next?



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Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 11:20 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric,
Well.....I'm always looking to upgrade any that I have...although my collection is definately lacking a red hindu...but am talking with someone about one now.

Although I picked up that E107 Breisch Williams...which will slow me down for a bit.



Date Posted: Aug/07/2007 7:15 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Dave,

Good luck working on that Red Hindu. I hope it works out for you.

I saw that E107 you purchased on the Net54 board. Good looking card! Congrats.

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/08/2007 7:48 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Catching up on some recent pickups. Matty is definitely a 2 but no creases through the portrait. The brown stains are annoying but I got what I felt is a good deal on it so I can live with it. Sorry no Drums Dave.....

Scott






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Date Posted: Aug/08/2007 8:02 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I like the Matty. Stains to me are kind of nice....adds flavor to the card..much better than creases!



Date Posted: Aug/08/2007 8:49 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks my friend, I think it adds a little character myself. I want to try and grab a presentable Johnson portrait in 1 or 2 now.



Date Posted: Aug/09/2007 5:38 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

That Phillippe is nice I have seen 4s that look worse than that card.



Date Posted: Aug/10/2007 10:12 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

My newest addition. First card in over a month. Been looking for a good Magee for a while. Finally got one.



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Date Posted: Aug/11/2007 12:25 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Man, I love that Matty, Scott. Color and registration are always my primary considerations so the spots don't bother me at all. Heck, they're like a badge of honor, really.

Anyway, I've been totally slacking on my scanning - probably because I've been doing much more subtracting from than adding to my collection over the last few weeks. Here's my new stuff:













I very carelessly ended up acquiring two Lentzes recently, so if anybody has SL'ers to burn, I have a PSA 3 that I'd like to trade for an SL'er I still need. I'm also not sure if I'll end up keeping the Seitz. Like I said, I'm a fanatic about image quality and the dark ink doesn't quite line up right on that one.

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Date Posted: Aug/12/2007 2:26 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Thanks for the kind words, they're appreciated. Awesome pickups (as usual). You seem to have a knack for finding those Hindu's. A SLer beater to keep the thread going......

Scott





Date Posted: Aug/13/2007 5:25 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Don't own any portrait cards, but they are looking at someones old family photograph. They are definetly little pieces of art!! Love seeing them, thanks guys for getting me hooked!!



Date Posted: Aug/15/2007 4:47 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Looking to buy a Dougherty portrait in PSA 3 or 4, if you have an extra one please let me know.

Thanks,

Kirk



Date Posted: Aug/16/2007 5:03 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

hey guys I have a Drum and Uzit up on ebay if any has any extra cash laying around



Date Posted: Aug/19/2007 7:54 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Picked up in a trade with Joe Brennan...........thanks Joe!

Scott





Date Posted: Aug/20/2007 4:08 PM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Alright it has been awhile, with my limited budget, so I won this one:








Date Posted: Aug/20/2007 4:19 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Sting
The McIntyre is one of my favorite cards in the set......great pickup.

Scott



Date Posted: Aug/20/2007 5:30 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Just another common.

Scott





Date Posted: Aug/21/2007 2:49 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Very nice Knight, looks better then some 4s I have seen. Has great centering too!!



Date Posted: Aug/21/2007 12:07 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Great looking cards guys. Nothing new from me.

I also really like that McIntyre portrait. Good looking card.

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/21/2007 12:12 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Kirk,

Did you find your Dougherty Portrait? I saw a couple on ebay that were PSA 4's. One actually ended yesterday, and sold for $36.

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/21/2007 6:02 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Great stuff, as always! Here's one of my latest pickups. Sorry for the large scan:

,


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Date Posted: Aug/21/2007 6:26 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nice Brown Hindu gosteelers.

Hey Dave.....did you ever finish the latest deal you were working on? If so what was it?

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/21/2007 8:51 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Gosteelers
Nice job on the Hindu!

I just picked these up. As I said on the Net 54 board I'll take 2's that look like this all day long and it doesn't hurt they are southern leaguers either!





Date Posted: Aug/22/2007 5:16 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< Hey Kirk,

Did you find your Dougherty Portrait? I saw a couple on ebay that were PSA 4's. One actually ended yesterday, and sold for $36.
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Don't get why it shows $36 as the winning bid, when you actually go to the bid list the winning bid is $55. I really did not like the shape of that card for a 4, thought the 3 that sold before was better looking, I had that one too until the last second of the auction!!

So I am still looking for one, there is a nice PSA 8 for sale for $1,900!! Not for me though.



Date Posted: Aug/22/2007 11:24 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

lamontcarter,
Wow, those SL'ers are blazers! Very nice!

Mark



Date Posted: Aug/22/2007 1:01 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks Mark. I bought them off of Ray B. I think these were the nicest 2 of all of the SLers he was selling.



Date Posted: Aug/22/2007 5:04 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Sorry to hear that Kirk.

LC, definitely nice SLers for 2's. Nice grab.

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/22/2007 6:45 PM
Posted By: ArtRossLives (Senior Member)

Man lc - those do not look like 2s!! Do they have paperloss on the back? They look like 4s to me -if the abcks are clean I would be cracking and resubmitting on those two -nice pickup even if they have back issues!

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C56, V252, V128-1 sets
Hall of Famers from all 4 sports



Date Posted: Aug/22/2007 7:28 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks for the kind words guys, I thought the same thing regarding paperloss. The gentleman I bought them from was on the road so he didn't have access to the cards but he told me he thought the backs were okay. Even if they aren't I'm still happy because they present so well. I'll let you know when I get them.

Thanks.

Scott



Date Posted: Aug/26/2007 4:55 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Selling my T206's.
All prices include shipping and handling. Paypal is prefered, but I'll consider all forms of payment.
First e-mail takes the card. Remember I am paying the freight.
[email protected]

Anderson $60
Bates $60
Criss $44
Devore $60
Clarke $38





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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Aug/26/2007 9:18 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Sting, that McIntyre looks great. I had that one tracked but don't think I ended up bidding all that high. Kinda wish I had because its color and registration look fantastic.

Must be Southern League season. I was hoping to win one of the Hindus that was on eBay a week or so ago, but my bidding was to no avail. I really wanted the Shaughnessy but it went for insane money for an SGC 10. Just as well, I guess, since I think I have six new SL'ers on the way thanks to Ray B. and someone else from N54. I'm pretty stoked about those pickups.

Lastly...Joe, I'm sorry to see you leaving the T206 Brotherhood but I can appreciate your perspective. I've fortunately never reached that point but I do seem cycle between periods of great enthusiasm for the hobby and bouts of total cynicism toward the grading/auction house racket.

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Date Posted: Aug/27/2007 9:51 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Thanks Yawnie,

The corners are nice to with a little paper loss at the tips, but the corner wear is not to bad.


2Dueces sorry to here you are selling them all!!



Date Posted: Aug/28/2007 4:31 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Finally made some new aquisitions, and will post them as I get them. Nothing too special, just some commons. But first new cards in about 2 months (except for the Magee Port. that I picked up last month)

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/28/2007 4:39 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I don't know if any of you would be interested, but I have a Doc Casey with an EPDG back in SGC 30 condition that I'd like to trade for another T206 I don't have. I would also sell it to anyone interested. Just email me at: [email protected]



Thanks,

Eric

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 4:23 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

These will be headed to the house in the next few days...not the big purchase I'm after...but happy with them.






Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 4:25 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Everything is included except for the black cap Matty....unfortunately.






Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 5:52 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Somebody went a little trim happy on the Matty!?



Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 5:56 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Looks like it. Probably a good think you didn't get that Matty.

Amazing pickup Dave. Good for you. You'll have to let us know what they grade.

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 6:24 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Which Matty are you thinking is trimmed? I got close on each scan..and I do not think any of the Matty's are trimmed. They came from a guy that knows very little about cards...had them in his family for years...he also had a lot of e105 mello mints he sold...which were in great condition..i just didnt get to him in time on those.

these mattys all have consistant edges with the rest of the card surface...i really think that black cap matty would be a 5, and the others 2's, maybe outside chance at 3's.



Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 7:06 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< Which Matty are you thinking is trimmed? I got close on each scan..and I do not think any of the Matty's are trimmed. They came from a guy that knows very little about cards...had them in his family for years...he also had a lot of e105 mello mints he sold...which were in great condition..i just didnt get to him in time on those.

these mattys all have consistant edges with the rest of the card surface...i really think that black cap matty would be a 5, and the others 2's, maybe outside chance at 3's.
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The black cap one. The sides borders look a little thin, IMO. But that is just based on the scan. And it seems that with the small border at top there would be a little more border under his name.



Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 3:48 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<<

<< Which Matty are you thinking is trimmed? I got close on each scan..and I do not think any of the Matty's are trimmed. They came from a guy that knows very little about cards...had them in his family for years...he also had a lot of e105 mello mints he sold...which were in great condition..i just didnt get to him in time on those.

these mattys all have consistant edges with the rest of the card surface...i really think that black cap matty would be a 5, and the others 2's, maybe outside chance at 3's.
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The black cap one. The sides borders look a little thin, IMO. But that is just based on the scan. And it seems that with the small border at top there would be a little more border under his name.
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That's the same one I was thinking for the same reasons. Again only by seeing the scans. But who knows. Did you get the white cap or black cap?

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T206's I Once Owned



Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 4:00 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

My two newest. More coming soon.

Barry PSA 3


Clymer PSA 3


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Date Posted: Aug/29/2007 5:22 PM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

Eric...I got the white cap. He swears the black cap isnt trimmed..but we couldnt agree on a price on it...he thinks its a solid 5 with outside shot at a 6..





Date Posted: Aug/30/2007 11:32 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

I won't be keeping it....but still nice to have it for a few days anyway





Date Posted: Aug/30/2007 11:59 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Didn't really care for portrait cards when I started collecting these, but they are really starting to grow on me.



Date Posted: Aug/30/2007 7:09 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

My Next 3. Was able to knock out Vic Willis in one shot. I'm very happy with these. The Portrait is very good for it's grade.







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Date Posted: Aug/30/2007 7:11 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Dave, if you don't mind me asking, what will be your asking price on that Evers? Probably out of my price range, but it can't hurt to ask. Thanks.

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Date Posted: Sep/02/2007 10:14 AM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Some great cards have been added since I last posted. Been working ridiculous hours but will allow me to expand the collection a little

Here are my most recent additions:


Really good corners on the Sweeney


The Murphy is my first Cycle back - 460 Subjects






Livingstone - Sovereign 350 Subjects back - my first



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My t206 collection can be seen here

The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Sep/02/2007 8:24 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Martin, those are some nice new additions. I too am working some extra hours helping my wife at her work to have some "extra money" to spend on more T206s. Also selling off a bunch of other stuff I have to free up some funds. Wasn't planning on buying any more this year, but I can't stay away.

Somewhere in the mix, I have to save up some money so I can get some new ink. Planning on starting a sleeve on my left arm over Thanksgiving, and that'll cost me a chunk. But I'm excited about it. And I can't forget the wife's birthday coming up either .

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Date Posted: Sep/05/2007 12:12 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

been MIA for awhile. here's my most recent purchase...not much, but still something!



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My Auctions





Date Posted: Sep/05/2007 1:53 PM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Hey guys, I meant to ask this before, but what are some of your favorite portrait cards?? Beside the Dougherty card, I like the Han Lobert and Nap Rucker cards. Also like the Rube Marquard and the Chance (yellow background with Chicago on the jersey).

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Date Posted: Sep/05/2007 2:09 PM
Posted By: jamesryanbell (Collector)

Mine's the Keeler portrait.

I bought one about 14 years ago.

Also, the Cy Young Green back.

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Date Posted: Sep/05/2007 6:32 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Sting
The Evers portrait is my favorite bar none. A couple other I like in addition to the Dougherty which I love:
Lobart (great minds think a like, thought I was the only one that thought that card was cool)
Chase Pink
Matty
Walter Johnson
Oral Overall
Jerry Downs
Mattern
Magee
Ginger Beaumont
Chance Yellow
Tinker
Cy Young
Terry Turner
Donovan

Not sure if you guys have ever seen this but here's a webpage that shows a picture of every card in the set. I look through it a lot and find more cards each time that catch ny eye.


Virtual T206



Date Posted: Sep/05/2007 6:36 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Just looking at it now I forgot about:
Bowerman
Bender
Chesbro
Keeler
Cobb Green
Mordecai Brown
Eddie Collins

There ain't too many I don't like I guess.

Actually I don't like Doc Casey.



Date Posted: Sep/05/2007 8:32 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

How about the Honus portrait...

I like that one!



Date Posted: Sep/06/2007 7:42 AM
Posted By: asphaltman76 (Veteran)

My favorite portait hasn't changed....although it is currently ungraded





Date Posted: Sep/06/2007 6:33 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

My favorite portraits:

Magee
Tinker
Johnson
Elberfeld
Willis
Evers
Dougherty

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Date Posted: Sep/07/2007 9:44 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Alright, I need to sell my T206s, I have 4 - PSA 4s, H. Davis with the H, McIntyre Portrait, Ira Thomas, and Ed Killian Pitching. I will take $240 delivered, prefer Paypal.

Please PM me if interested.


Kirk

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Date Posted: Sep/09/2007 7:41 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Ok the price is lowered to $220 with delivery.



Date Posted: Sep/09/2007 8:57 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

All kinds of new goodies for me over the last week.

Love the image quality on this Bender:


I already had this Chase, but it's one of my all-time favorites and Sovereign 460's are a bit underrated:


A bonanza of Southern Leaguers:












Oh yeah, and a new St. Louis HoFer:


I'm in the midst of revamping by website a bit, too. I've been paring down my non-T206 collection lately so I reorganized that folder and now I'm about to shuffle my T206 images. I had been arranging them alphabetically, but I think I might now sort them by team.

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Date Posted: Sep/10/2007 4:45 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Alright, I can go $210 delivered for my cards listed above. First e-mail get them.

[email protected]


Thanks,


Kirk



Date Posted: Sep/11/2007 12:31 PM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Some wonderful portraits on here (not really a fan of the portraits) especially the Matthewson, Bender and Chase.

Two more to add:


Sovereign 460 Subjects Back (my first) - badly listed on ebay - cost me $40 so very happy!


Sovereign 350 Subjects Back.

Awaiting the arrival of my first horizontal card from the set but on a tighter budget for the next few weeks.

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The aim is to add one card per week to the collection....



Date Posted: Sep/13/2007 4:49 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Ok I put them up on Ebay along with another one in a lot, trying something new for me with a BIN with best offer typ of auction. See how it goes.

Thanks for looking:

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Date Posted: Sep/16/2007 6:37 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

got this recently.



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Date Posted: Sep/16/2007 10:29 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I failed miserably at my only attempt at soaking, but if you're brave enough, Danby, you might consider giving that card a distilled water bath to remove the attached paper. Cool card either way, though.

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Date Posted: Sep/17/2007 8:49 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Good looking cards everyone.

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Date Posted: Sep/17/2007 8:56 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I got a few more commons since my last showing.







And I think there were a few more, but I can't remember them at this time.

I'm officially taking a break the rest of this year. I'll be back to collecting to start the new year, but right now am a little burned out.

Keep those cards coming.

Regards,
Eric

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Date Posted: Sep/17/2007 11:22 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Hey guys fairly new to the boards here. I guess I finally found were my 'competition" hangs out at. I share many of the same thoughts on this set as the the original poster. My Journey with these mini peices of art began around 1990. I was around 10 years old and picked up a beater Soveirgn back of Dode Criss {my names chris so I think that was the appeal. I just thought it was so neat to have a card so old. Fast forward 17 years and I started to hit a Dry spell in my Hof Autograph collection. Kind of stuck on 115 or so while I look for players I need on nice items within my budget{a tough task at this juncture. On a whim I picked up my First Graded card a T206 Wagner!!!!!!!!!! Heinie of Course. I then started doing some summer reading about Hal Chase and picked up His Dark Cap T206. I am now hooked its only been a couple months and Im hooked. There are some stunning cards Liefield Titus and more that I cant wait to get. My favorites so far are my Jack Knight and Chase Trophy. The only card I have purchased that I am not happy with the is the Stahl. I overpaid and it has I dirtier look than I would have hoped. Well heres the goods! Most of my backs are SC or Piedmont.





















TROPHY ONLY


UNGLAUB ONLY




OLD MILL BACK




POLAR BEAR BACK








LESS THEN $35 A CARD FOR THIS LOT


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Date Posted: Sep/18/2007 5:54 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Welcome to the board RCchris. That's a really good start to the T206 collection.

I'm sure you probably already found it, but if not, there's a great site for buying/selling/trading Tobacco cards, by the name of NET54 (www.network54.com). Most of us are there too.

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Date Posted: Sep/19/2007 3:26 PM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

RCchris - My encouragement for your dreams. Best of Luck; nice start!!
RayB

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Date Posted: Sep/20/2007 9:42 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Hit the buy it now on three nice fours todays for what I think was a very fair price!







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Date Posted: Sep/21/2007 7:08 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Wow, those were some very good BIN prices. Nice grabs on those 3.

Looks like someone cleaned out that seller.

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Date Posted: Sep/28/2007 7:42 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Fellas! Nothing new to add, just bringing it back up to the top. Almost made it to page 4!

Here's an oldie, but a goodie. One of my favorites:



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Date Posted: Sep/28/2007 7:43 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

And have a great weekend!

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Date Posted: Oct/01/2007 8:06 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Tired of this being on the third page so I bought a new card! Am I missing something or doesnt this card usually go for more then the $61 I paid for it?





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http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/ROCKCITY24/?start=0



Date Posted: Oct/01/2007 8:42 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Chris
Congratulations.......beautiful card...........great centering. $61 sounds about right give or take a few bucks.



Date Posted: Oct/01/2007 8:49 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

I may have paid through the shorts on this, but i finally got one



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Date Posted: Oct/01/2007 9:09 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Wow major what a great card ! Congrats!

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Date Posted: Oct/02/2007 6:49 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Congrats indeed, Danby. Saw you win that one last night. Doesn't look too bad for the grade, and I think the T206 rarities aren't likely to come down in price. Ya done good.

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Date Posted: Oct/02/2007 9:52 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Danby, great looking Demmitt for the grade. You really can't go wrong with cards like that.

RCChris....that is about right for that Magee. However, the portrait magee seems to always carry a bit of a premium on it.

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Date Posted: Oct/02/2007 12:31 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

SGC 50's and 60's on e-bay starting at $.01 No Reserve. Please bid high.

my e-bay

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Oct/02/2007 9:42 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

thanks for the congrats, guys. I've tried getting other demmitts on ebay in the past...but could never get them. a lot of them were not as pleasing to the eye as this one. so, i bid what i felt i needed to pay.

now im on the lookout for a magie and o'hara...

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Date Posted: Oct/03/2007 6:04 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

I liked the Demmit also. I planned to bid on it. I had it on my watch list, but family emergency pulled me away that evening. Missed the boat! I do not think you overpaid. It is much better than most of the PSA 1 Demmits I have seen.



Date Posted: Oct/06/2007 1:17 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few additions to my low grade set to get this back to the first page:






Date Posted: Oct/07/2007 6:01 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Auctions for t206's end tonight and tomorrow.

Sorry for the spam guys, won't interupt our thread again.

You guys have picked up some great new cards. I still have a bunch for sale not listed.

PSA 3's and 4's, non portraits for sale at very reasonable prices.

You can view them by clicking my sig line.

E-mail me for a list and I'll send you some new scans. Joe

linkage

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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
>>





Date Posted: Oct/07/2007 8:09 AM
Posted By: RayBShotz (Collector)

Danby - That Demmitt has great eye appeal for 1. Congrats on a really nice card.
RayB

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Date Posted: Oct/07/2007 6:02 PM
Posted By: artimus (Veteran)

i have a nice set of 4 T206's on ebay if anyone wants to take a look......thanks

artimus t206's



Date Posted: Oct/09/2007 1:39 PM
Posted By: TheCARDKid (Collector)

Great looking Demmitt.

Those T206 rarities are the bluest of the blue chip...impossible to go wrong with them.



Date Posted: Oct/10/2007 6:17 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey guys,

I'm cutting back on my T206 collection. So I have decided to put up about 38 for sale. Scans can be seen in the provided link. Prices listed above each scan, include first class shipping in a padded bubble mailer. I accept PAYPAL, MO, and checks for payment. If interested take a look. Thanks.

You can email me at: [email protected]

MY T206's 4 SALE

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Date Posted: Oct/11/2007 7:29 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

My Elberfeld (Washington) is now for sale. This is one of my favorite cards. It looks really good for the grade. Pin hole at the top, and a black line through the factory line on the back. That's all that's wrong with this one.



If one of you guys are interested in it send me an email: [email protected]

I have a price in mind, but don't want to post it here. It's also available in the B/S/T area of Net54.

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Date Posted: Oct/11/2007 8:22 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Are you getting out of the Monster Crazy?

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My autograph Collection
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/ROCKCITY24/?start=0



Date Posted: Oct/12/2007 10:07 PM
Posted By: Toad (Member)

Since you guys enjoy embracing flaws, then you can embrace this one for days...



This card is oozing with character. The multiple creases combined with the staining give it a textured appearance, helping to create the illusion that it is a mini painting on a tiny canvass. It arrived this morning and I've been staring at it all day. I think the Red Portrait Cobb is about the nicest looking card in baseball card history.

Hopefully nobody is offended that it wasn't graded by PSA.



Date Posted: Oct/12/2007 10:10 PM
Posted By: Toad (Member)

Does anybody on here have a 1904 George Winter(s) American League Fan Craze card they are lookin' to get rid of?

 10/12/2007 22:15:27|U



Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 7:44 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<< Since you guys enjoy embracing flaws, then you can embrace this one for days...



This card is oozing with character. The multiple creases combined with the staining give it a textured appearance, helping to create the illusion that it is a mini painting on a tiny canvass. It arrived this morning and I've been staring at it all day. I think the Red Portrait Cobb is about the nicest looking card in baseball card history.

Hopefully nobody is offended that it wasn't graded by PSA.
>>



Nice card, Toad!



Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 1:18 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< Are you getting out of the Monster Crazy? >>



Not exactly RCChris. Just cutting back a little bit to try to type collect a bit. Selling off my commons is one way of doing it.

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 1:20 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

I like it too Toad. Character is always good.

I'd like to have both the Cobb portraits from this set.

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 4:28 PM
Posted By: Toad (Member)

The best part about it is you can get all sorts of character at a fraction of the cost of those fancy, schmancy high-graded examples.



Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 8:39 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Toad, nice card!

Picked up a few things today at the Philly show. Many prices were high to outrageous so I didn't get much but I did grab my first Hindu and my first American Beauty! I'm a little worried that the AB might be trimmed but a lot of AB's I see have some funny cuts so we'll see. I think the Stovall is a 4.






Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 9:04 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice, lamont.....

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 9:35 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks Major, I appreciate it. If the AB isn't trimmed I'll be real happy.



Date Posted: Oct/13/2007 11:24 PM
Posted By: Toad (Member)

Thanks, everybody. I'm glad you like my multi-flawed Cobb.

lamontcarter, your cards are pretty nice. However, it's a bit of a shame that they lack the rich, robust, brown staining that only the best scrap tobacco can provide. Oh well, no use dwelling on it.


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Date Posted: Oct/15/2007 3:00 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Did anybody on here win that Ray Demmitt (St. Louis) that ended last night? It was an SGC 'A', but I was very interested in it for it's eye appeal.



Date Posted: Oct/15/2007 9:09 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

My first Hall of Famer !!!!!!!!



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Date Posted: Oct/15/2007 9:23 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< Did anybody on here win that Ray Demmitt (St. Louis) that ended last night? It was an SGC 'A', but I was very interested in it for it's eye appeal. >>



It was one of my hobby buddies, so I'm pretty happy for him since I think he's getting fairly close to completion. Not sure if he still needs O'Hara but there's one ending tomorrow. I have both of the St. Louis rarities already but I still love watching auctions for them unfold.

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2007 9:58 AM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)

chris
i love that clarke card, it looks great, i love the pose, i think it might be one of my favorite t 206!!!

thanks for sharing i had not seen that one before.

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Fred

collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)



Date Posted: Oct/16/2007 8:19 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Thanks baseball fan! I think its a great pose with cool colors with the sleeves and all!

Got a sentimental pickup today. My first T206 ever was a Dode Criss in bad shape years ago. Wanted to pick up a graded one to go with it!



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http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/ROCKCITY24/?start=0



Date Posted: Oct/16/2007 9:28 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

i was the under bidder on the o'hara. I knew my bid was low given that the 2 or 3 previous o'hara's have gone well beyond 1,700. But, i decided to bid low because 1.) i thought i could get it for that price given the S&H and the time the auction ended and 2.) i just got a demmitt...so, i was reluctant to pay another $1600 for a card. In the end, i have some remorse as i want to get through the st louis rarities as soon as possible. But, i did end up winning this today:



I'll sell my other PSA 2, which doesnt look quite as nice as this one.

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2007 10:07 PM
Posted By: benderbroeth (Collector)

let me now how much you will want for it. i might be interested

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Date Posted: Oct/17/2007 6:24 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Agreed on that Clarke that is a great looking card!!



Date Posted: Oct/18/2007 6:21 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

3 more additions puts me at my first milestone, 25% complete on the monster.





Date Posted: Oct/18/2007 10:01 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Titus is so pimp. Yours looks great, man.

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Date Posted: Oct/18/2007 10:20 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)



<< 3 more additions puts me at my first milestone, 25% complete on the monster. >>



Congratulations on 25%!


Doug



Date Posted: Oct/19/2007 9:47 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Thanks Steve and Dave for the kind words.

! I love the Titus card too. He comes up less often then most.

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Date Posted: Oct/20/2007 11:07 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few more additions:








Date Posted: Oct/22/2007 6:32 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

My first of the tough variations. Thanks to Eric!!!!! Presents nice for a "1" IMHO.





Date Posted: Oct/23/2007 8:08 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Nice Brown. My pickup!



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Date Posted: Oct/23/2007 8:17 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

with eric, stingray and dave subduing to the monster, we'll need to keep the boat afloat with more scans of recent purchases!!

here's my recent purchase



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Date Posted: Oct/24/2007 9:39 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Major
Beautiful card!!!!! I had my eye on that one. Do you have it in hand yet? Is there any paperloss on the back? If not I can't see why it's only a 2.

Great pickup!



Date Posted: Oct/24/2007 8:41 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

scott...i dont have it yet. I will let you know what the problem is when i get it. thanks

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2007 6:45 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few more:



Thanks.

Scott



Date Posted: Oct/26/2007 9:35 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< My first of the tough variations. Thanks to Eric!!!!! Presents nice for a "1" IMHO.

>>




No problem. I'm starting to put 2 and 2 together here. Finally finding out who some of you guys are

That Browne was a good one. I bought it from someone on this very board.

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Date Posted: Oct/26/2007 9:37 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< A few more:



Thanks.

Scott
>>





Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. That Chesbro sure does look firmiliar

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Date Posted: Oct/26/2007 9:41 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< with eric, stingray and dave subduing to the monster, we'll need to keep the boat afloat with more scans of recent purchases!!

here's my recent purchase

>>



Stingray is out too! WOW!

It got the best of me. I'm selling the remainder of my HOFers and toughies on Ebay right now. I have six auctions giong, including a Shag Shaughnessy PSA 2, Frank Chance Yellow Portrait PSA 3, a Vic Willis HOF Lot with all three variations, etc. They end on Sunday.

That will leave me with only 2 T-206s. A Lajoie Portrait PSA 2 and a Josh Devore RED HINDU PSA 1.....but I'll keep checking back with the board to see how you guys are doing. And I might try to slip in a non T206 card here and there....you know the reason I moved to something else.

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Date Posted: Oct/26/2007 10:00 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

I sold mine off to pay for someother things, mainly a new Ipod!! Now I am doing something a little more cost effective for me, the 82 Topps FB set. Though I am always coming into here and reading these threads.



Date Posted: Oct/26/2007 10:25 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< I sold mine off to pay for someother things, mainly a new Ipod!! Now I am doing something a little more cost effective for me, the 82 Topps FB set. Though I am always coming into here and reading these threads. >>



I sold off mine to go after some E-cards, and a few other things I wanted as well. But I'll keep coming back here too.

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2007 9:09 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Scott,

I received your MO today. I've released your cards and you can add them to your registry. Thanks bro. I'll send you an email too.

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2007 10:27 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

I just passed 25% on T206 too. Woooooooooo! My scanner isn't working right now, but here's a link to my set, where there are a few scans.

My T206

I only have 6 HOFers, but I keep plugging away.


Doug



Date Posted: Oct/28/2007 9:44 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Doug
Congrats on the accomplishment!

Scott



Date Posted: Oct/28/2007 11:02 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Congrats Doug. That's quite an accomplishment.

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2007 1:28 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks everyone!

Doug



Date Posted: Oct/28/2007 9:57 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)



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Date Posted: Oct/30/2007 10:19 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Guys,

Would any of you object to me showing some of my recent pickups even though they are not T-206's? I know this is the "Official Anything T-206 Thread", but I'd really like to show why I sold all mine off, if that's alright with you.

-Eric

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Date Posted: Oct/30/2007 12:54 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Another one gone. This one I'm a little upset over. I hated to let it go, but I worked out a decent trade. Picked up two toughies that I wanted in my collection.



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Date Posted: Oct/30/2007 6:13 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Eric
Must have been tough to let that one go. I'm all for seeing your recent pickups. You can also post them in the Mail Call post on the Sports Cards and Memoribilia Forum if you feel akward about posting them here. Like I said, I'm all for seeing them.

A few recent pickups:

Scott










Date Posted: Oct/30/2007 9:18 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Wow, Scott -- you're picking these up like there's no tomorrow! They look great too. Nice work!

Doug



Date Posted: Oct/30/2007 9:52 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Eric I have no objections to seeing the proceeds of selling of your t206 in this thread!

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Date Posted: Oct/31/2007 4:26 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks fellas for the approval. I'll keep it all prewar of course. I'll also show what I picked up for my red hindu.

A few of my pickups are T-cards, just different brands and different series, and most of the rest are E-cards.

Scott....you have no idea how tough it was. I do however vow to get one back into my collection in 2008. And those are some really nice pickups.



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Date Posted: Oct/31/2007 2:10 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Before I post some of my other additions, I did pick up a new T206. The Magee Portrait is my favorite T206, so I had to get one back. I traded away my PSA, but replaced it with this one. However it isn't in a PSA holder (Be gentle).



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Date Posted: Nov/01/2007 12:19 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

got a these two from just collect





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Date Posted: Nov/01/2007 1:05 PM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

How is that Jacklitsch a SGC 30, looks better to me!!



Date Posted: Nov/01/2007 1:24 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

sting...very, very faint surface wrinkle.

the chance has paperloss on the back.

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Date Posted: Nov/01/2007 7:40 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Major
Great cards...both present well for the grade.

Eric
Love the Magee......I wish I could have picked up the one you sold.

Another SLer for me:





Date Posted: Nov/02/2007 3:56 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Dave F and Eric, I'm sorry to see you leave the monster, but collecting caramels is so much fun. I'm pretty happy with this submission (at the post office today). I don't think the Schmidt is trimmed, but was unsure about the Rhodes. The Lajoie is a Piedmont 350-460- fact. 42.
PSA Order Status for Submission # 4371678


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 07279679 1911 PIEDMONT BOB BESCHER PORTRAIT 5
2 07279680 1912 BROWN BACKGROUND TOM CLARKE N/A 5
3 07279681 1911 EL PRINC.DE GALES STEVE EVANS N/A 4
4 07279682 1911 PIEDMONT BILL GRAHAM ST. LOUIS 6
5 07279683 1911 PIEDMONT JACK HANNIFAN N/A 5
6 07279684 1911 PIEDMONT DANNY HOFFMAN ST. LOUIS 5
7 07279685 1911 SWEET CAPORAL HARRY HOWELL HAND AT WAIST 7
8 07279686 1911 PIEDMONT TIM JORDAN BROOKLYN, BATTING 2
9 07279687 1911 PIEDMONT SAM CRAWFORD THROWING 4
10 07279688 1911 PIEDMONT HARRY KRAUSE PITCHING 4
11 07279689 1911 PIEDMONT JIMMY LAVENDER N/A 4
12 07279690 1911 PIEDMONT NAP LAJOIE WITH BAT 5
13 07279691 1911 PIEDMONT FRANK LaPORTE N/A 4
14 07279692 1911 SWEET CAPORAL CHRISTY MATHEWSON DARK CAP 3
15 07279693 1911 SWEET CAPORAL JIM McGINLEY N/A 5
16 07279694 1911 SWEET CAPORAL FRED MITCHELL TORONTO 4
17 07279695 1911 PIEDMONT BILL O'HARA NEW YORK 5
18 07279696 1911 PIEDMONT RUBE OLDRING FIELDING 4
19 07279697 1911 PIEDMONT RUBE OLDRING BATTING 5
20 07279698 1911 GOLD BORDER JOHN PFIESTER N/A 5
21 07279699 1911 SWEET CAPORAL CHARLIE RHODES N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
22 07279700 1911 PIEDMONT NAP RUCKER PORTRAIT 4
23 07279701 1911 PIEDMONT ADMIRAL SCHLEI BATTING 4
24 07279702 1911 PIEDMONT BOSS SCHMIDT THROWING Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
25 07279703 1911 PIEDMONT CY SEYMOUR PORTRAIT 5
26 07279704 1911 GOLD BORDER HEINIE WAGNER N/A 2
27 07279705 1911 SWEET CAPORAL JIMMY WILLIAMS N/A 5
28 07279706 1911 PIEDMONT IRV YOUNG MINNEAPOLIS 5

Date Received: 10/15/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 10/25/2007
Date Shipped: 10/26/2007








Date Posted: Nov/02/2007 4:16 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)

Nice you got a 7 on one of them. Pick these up raw on Ebay??



Date Posted: Nov/02/2007 5:47 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Thanks Scott. I wish I didn't have to let that one go either, but I did get some pretty cool cards in return. So I might as well post them right?

Also, I think I'm only leaving the monster for a little while. I'm sure I'll be back.....if only to try to retackle HOFers and some rare backs. Probably not an entire set though.

So these two cards are what I got in exchange for my PSA 1 Elberfeld (Washington variation) and PSA 3 Magee. They are E97 Black and White Proofs. Pretty cool and very rare cards. Rough shape, but I still like them.





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Date Posted: Nov/02/2007 5:49 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Yes I know they aren't T206's but I really would like to show what I've been picking up. And there isn't an official E-card thread, and I don't know how popular it would be. Nothing like T206's and CJ's.

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Date Posted: Nov/02/2007 9:26 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Most of them came from a 67 card lot I purchased last year off of Ebay. The Lajoie I purchased 4 or 5 years ago off of Ebay and a few cards from the Net 54 BST board. I am trying to put together a large purchase over the weekend which would leave me a whole lot of duplicates. I will post them if the sale goes through. Martin



Date Posted: Nov/08/2007 4:16 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Back to the top from page 3. No one's added anything for about a week.

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Date Posted: Nov/08/2007 7:18 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I have a couple in transit (hopefully).



Date Posted: Nov/08/2007 7:35 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< Back to the top from page 3. No one's added anything for about a week. >>



I've definitely been slacking. Actually it's more a case of feeling deflated due to a hard drive crash. I didn't bother scanning anything or even acquiring much to scan while the fate of the files on our fried hard drive were in limbo. The place to which we sent our drive was able to retrieve most of our files so now I need to reorganize our new drive and start updating my site again. However, I don't think I have anything as exciting as that recent invoice, Martin. Way to go, man!

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Date Posted: Nov/11/2007 9:20 PM
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Date Posted: Nov/12/2007 9:37 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

steve..i saw we both got outbid on that ellam old mill card last night. Nice card for the grade!

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Date Posted: Nov/12/2007 7:19 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

1000th post.

I'll show my T216 Kotton Cigarettes Art Fromme. Graded a PSA 3. Only 3 graded by PSA, and I believe it is the highest graded.

Released by Peoples Tobacco in Louisiana, these specimens are fairly rare and very difficult to find in decent condition due to the weather conditions they were exposed to and the use of poor card stock. This is a Type 1 variant with a glossy front, which makes it very susceptible to cracking and spider creases, none of which are on my card.



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Date Posted: Nov/13/2007 6:12 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few new additions, nothing exciting but I did pick up another SLer:






Date Posted: Nov/16/2007 2:06 PM
Posted By: Cincyfan01 (Member)

I was wondering if I could tap someone for any information on this Miller Huggins St. Louis variation. I collect Reds cards and picked this up in a lot of T206 Reds. I haven't found any information on it and the Becket Almanac/SC Digest doesn't mention a St. Louis variation on it. Thanks in advance for your comments.
T206 Miller Huggins Front
T206 Miller Huggins Back



Date Posted: Nov/16/2007 3:10 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

cincy...the card is a t213 type 2.

some more info

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2007 10:53 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nice Kotton, Eric. It looks familiar, but I can't remember if I once owned it or not. I've had quite a few T216's come and go. I'd love to add a Mino and Virginia Extra one of these days.

Since I'm on the subject of cards that get around, I'll start with an EPDG I just picked up from the aforementioned Eric. I guess "just picked up" is the wrong phrase, as it's been a few weeks. But after a bit of work to get my card-related files in order on my new hard drive, I finally fired up my scanner tonight and am working on updating my site. Anyway, here's a few recent highlights...



A new Southern Leaguer...



A new Hindu...



And a different Magee...



I can't really call it an upgrade since my last one was a former SGC 40 and I just busted this one out of a 20 holder, but I actually like the clarity on this one a little more. I'll probably keep my eyes peeled for a nicer copy, but I could certainly live with this one.

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Date Posted: Nov/17/2007 7:32 AM
Posted By: RipublicaninMass (Choose Your Title)

Did I do that?



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Date Posted: Nov/17/2007 10:33 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
As usual, great pick ups...love the Magee. I just ended up winning a nice one IMO, I'll post a scan when it arrives. A few more additions. I won the Herzog on ebay for $21, great price for a card that usually gets a little more $ than a normal common. The Tannehill seems like a card you don't see as often as others, could be my imagination. Won that one for $30. Seller doesn't take paypal which turns some bidders off I guess.


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Date Posted: Nov/18/2007 7:58 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<< Steve
As usual, great pick ups...love the Magee. I just ended up winning a nice one IMO, I'll post a scan when it arrives. A few more additions. I won the Herzog on ebay for $21, great price for a card that usually gets a little more $ than a normal common. The Tannehill seems like a card you don't see as often as others, could be my imagination. Won that one for $30. Seller doesn't take paypal which turns some bidders off I guess.
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I can not remember when any PSA 3 sold for $21 on ebay. That was an amazing buy! You may be right about the no Paypal theory. I picked up a couple of PSA 2 Hall of famers on Ebay yesterday for what I thought was very cheap. I was thinking maybe it was because things are a bit slow the weekend before Thanksgiving, along with Saturday mornings have a bit less bidders around. By contrast, the ones I am looking to bid on tonight all seem to have healthy bids already.



Date Posted: Nov/18/2007 8:08 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

Quick question. I have several psa graded T206 cards that I want to get reholdered with the backs noted on the front of the holders. Do I simply submit them at the reholder price or is there more to it?



Date Posted: Nov/18/2007 8:26 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

The Herzog is a great card and one that does tend to sell for a bit more than other commons. I don't think it's tougher or anything, just cooler. (Parenthetical aside: I love coat and sweater cards so much that I bought a wool peacoat - my first ever proper, mature outwear, mind you - just so I could look like Jack Bastian this winter.) You did very well to get one at that price. So much of eBay is just lucky timing. I've had a bit of good fortune lately during off-peak auction closing hours.

sonora, you might want to dig around the PSA site a bit. When they announced the addition of back type to the labels, I think there was a promotional price on reholdering cards so that the cigarette brand could be added. I want to say it was $3 instead of $5, but I could be totally wrong about all this, and even if my memory is correct, the promo may have ended.

By the way, it's incredibly gauche of me to spam this thread, but I'm currently thinning the herd, so to speak: http://imageevent.com/yawie99/forsalefortrade/rawt206s. I'm certainly open to trade offers, as well.

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Date Posted: Nov/18/2007 10:59 AM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)





i'm not actively looking to do the set (yet!) but i like picking up nice looking cards are reasonable price when i can. these cards are just too cool to avoid in my opinion and this thread doesn't help me at all. if anyone has any (graded or raw) at decent prices let me know.


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collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)

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Date Posted: Nov/18/2007 9:35 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

psa 3 bad pic ! less $30 dlvd



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Date Posted: Nov/19/2007 6:04 AM
Posted By: Stingray (Choose Your Title)



<< psa 3 bad pic ! less $30 dlvd

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Nice one looks like it has some great colors to it!!



Date Posted: Nov/19/2007 6:56 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

very nice looking card for a PSA 3. Bad picks can really cost the seller a few bucks.

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Date Posted: Nov/19/2007 11:30 AM
Posted By: Cincyfan01 (Member)

MajorDanby,

Thanks for the information. PSA could have used it since they slabbed it as a T206!





Date Posted: Nov/21/2007 12:14 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Most recent purchase

Happy turkey day everyone!



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Date Posted: Nov/21/2007 8:22 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Major
Unbelievable 2...........centering is fabulous.....congrats!!!



Date Posted: Nov/23/2007 4:28 PM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

I sold my PSA 1 a while ago. Finally found a replacement. I paid top dollar++, but smartened up, this one will not go up for sale. Iwill keep it in my collection. Top left corner hurts a bit, but overall, not a bad card for psa-2.





Date Posted: Nov/23/2007 6:56 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Great acquisition, man. Not that I collect for investment purposes, but I really think Demmitt and O'Hara will show more growth than any other T206's, as they're attainable enough for most set collectors to consider them needed pieces

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2007 11:57 PM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

There have been some great additions on the last 5 pages - not posted for a while so I ahve a couple of months worth of cards to add:

First horizontal card





Second HOF card

Second PSA 5


Now at 50/524 - almost 10%.......9 years to go minus the big four

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2007 11:58 PM
Posted By: martuk (Member)

Oops double post

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Date Posted: Dec/01/2007 9:45 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nice pickups Martin. Some good looking cards.

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Date Posted: Dec/01/2007 9:48 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Steve,

Here's your T216 MINO that you were looking for. One of two I picked up recently. Has a glossy front. Pretty good looking card for the grade. The back is beautiful.



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Date Posted: Dec/01/2007 10:31 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Martin
Nice pick ups.

Eric
Good to see and hear from you my friend.

A few arrived today. I also have a Magee portrait and a PSA 4 Mike Powers with a SC 150 overstrike on the way.

Scott



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Date Posted: Dec/02/2007 6:26 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)




This makes 2/3 Wagners!!!!!!!!!


and another tonight




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Date Posted: Dec/03/2007 6:54 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Scott,

Those are some good looking cards. That Hinchman is awesome for a 2!

Even though I'm not picking up any new T206's I'll be on here checking all of your guys' cards out. That set was the first vintage card type that I collected, so I'll always have a love for them.

Take care bro. Hope all is well with you.

-Eric

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2007 5:19 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Hey guys,
Just got this Shaughnessy in the mail today. Anyone else ever get a back that has this on it? Yikes!





Date Posted: Dec/03/2007 8:35 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

I've picked up a few T206's recently, including my first SLer:




I'll post a few more scans when the cards arrive...


Doug



Date Posted: Dec/03/2007 10:18 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here are 2 other cards I've picked up recently.





Doug



Date Posted: Dec/05/2007 8:11 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Doug
Nice pickups....for some reason I've always liked the Hayden....don't have one yet. I was happy to pick this up the other day. Tough common because he died in 1909 (I think) and is only available in the 150 series.

Scott





Date Posted: Dec/05/2007 9:09 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks, Scott. The Hayden is new to me -- I don't know that I'd ever seen it before I picked it up.

That's a great Mike Powers card! I really like the 'catching' cards in T206, but I don't have one yet.


Doug



Date Posted: Dec/06/2007 10:07 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here are some that I got in the mail today, including my first Tolstoi and my 7th HOFer! Also, my second AB back -- my first is in an SGC holder.

There were price tags on the first 2 that I shaded out. I picked up all of these on eBay, and the Griffith didn't have a cracked slab in the scan. I'm following up with the seller.









Doug



Date Posted: Dec/07/2007 4:27 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<<
There were price tags on the first 2 that I shaded out. I picked up all of these on eBay, and the Griffith didn't have a cracked slab in the scan. I'm following up with the seller

Doug
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Doug; Nice Pick ups. Looks like the Griffith holder got a little chewed up in the mail, but luckily the card is not damaged. When the Post office raised their rates, they also changed some of the machinery that processes the mail. I started to see an increase of damage to holders that I mailed and received in bubble envelopes. Maybe 1 out of 50 received damage, compared to almost none before the changes. Ironically, the better a seller insulates the envelope, the greater the chance of damage. If the envelope is too thick, it may get chewed up pretty bad. I started shipping in small boxes instead of envelopes to avoid the problem. A lot of sellers do not even become aware of this problem until they hear about it from the buyers. On the ones I sold, I gave full refunds, and had the cards reholdered before I resold them. Some sellers will not do that. Luckily, your damage was not too bad. That is a nice Tolstoi back; I would not want to return that card. Maybe if your lucky, the seller will give you some money towards reholdering it. Good luck, Joe.



Date Posted: Dec/08/2007 9:02 AM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks, Joe. That's interesting to know regarding the new machinery at the post office. I've always preferred small boxes, particularly on higher priced items, and this reinforces that idea. That being said, though, this is the first time I've seen any damage caused in the mail, and this includes several hundred transactions on eBay.

In this case, the eBay seller refunded me the cost of reholdering the Griffith, so I'm happy. I've had a few transactions with this seller, and given my positive experience in this case, I'd recommend him to anyone. His eBay id is markirodenko -- he owns Outfield Sports Cards in Brownstown, MI.


Doug



Date Posted: Dec/08/2007 10:28 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

I'm happy with this one, a nice 2:





Date Posted: Dec/08/2007 1:31 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

That's a great looking, 2, Scott!

Doug



Date Posted: Dec/09/2007 5:24 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)



<< Thanks, Joe. That's interesting to know regarding the new machinery at the post office. I've always preferred small boxes, particularly on higher priced items, and this reinforces that idea. That being said, though, this is the first time I've seen any damage caused in the mail, and this includes several hundred transactions on eBay.

In this case, the eBay seller refunded me the cost of reholdering the Griffith, so I'm happy. I've had a few transactions with this seller, and given my positive experience in this case, I'd recommend him to anyone. His eBay id is markirodenko -- he owns Outfield Sports Cards in Brownstown, MI.


Doug
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I agree, damage is still a relatively rare thing. I have bought cards from that seller also, he always seems to have some nice T206 cards listed. He is a class act. It is always good to hear about a seller that will stand behind the sale! In fact I just opened a box of several T206's from him today. All arrived safe and sound.

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Date Posted: Dec/09/2007 8:47 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That Magee looks awesome, man.

Stinks that the Griffith holder was chewed up in the mail, but at least the card wasn't ruined. Glad the seller's giving you a reholdering rebate, but damn, man: Protect your cards people! I had this arrive this week in just a large Priority envelope. No cardboard, no bubble wrap, no nuttin'.



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Date Posted: Dec/09/2007 9:27 AM
Posted By: hankcaddy (Veteran)

very nice looking port

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Date Posted: Dec/10/2007 4:12 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

nice additions.

Added this one recently



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Date Posted: Dec/10/2007 9:55 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here's my latest addition:




Doug



Date Posted: Dec/13/2007 6:05 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hey Fellas,

Been a while since I posted. Still no new T206's.

However here's a Tobacco Card. Picked up another T216 Mino:



Anyway, have a happy holiday season everyone.


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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 7:23 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Doug
Love that sweater on Duffy.....one of the cooler cards in the set imo

Eric
Congrats on the Mino....how many cards in the set? You trying to complete it? What's the biggie $ wise in the set? I know nothing about it.

Steve
That Matty is a CLASSIC....best portrait in the set!

A few no names as I hit the 30% mark.







Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 7:40 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Guys
Can anyone help me fix my signature? I tried to replace my link to my 41 Playball's to my T206's and now it's not working. Can anyone tell what's wrong by looking at it. All I did was delete my link to my 41's with my T206's and poof.....

Thanks.

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 9:51 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Wow, Scott -- 30% already -- congratulations!

I think you can fix your signature by adding:

[/L]

after the 9999


Doug



Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 10:19 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

That did it Doug....thanks buddy. I do have scans of all my cards if anyone wants to take a look.

Regards,

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 9:13 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Great, Scott, I'm glad it worked. That's a great looking set!

Here are my latest:






Date Posted: Dec/17/2007 10:00 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Nice cards everyone.



Scott, That only makes 3 cards from the T216 set. I have 2 Mino's and 1 Kotton. I'm not going after the entire set, because it's way above my budget. I just wanted to get a few. I think there are a total of 100 player cards. I still want to get a Virginia Extra back and that will be it for me.

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2007 8:00 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Eric
I think after you get that Virginia Extra you should come back to the monster......she misses you!

Doug
Great cards, that Willis is especially crisp! Are you collecting exclusively in 4 or better? I have a decent amount of 4's in my collection but have have mainly been buying 1-3's now. I really want to take a run at completeing this thing minus the big 4 and I think the only way for me to have a realistic shot is the 1-3 route.....or I could hit the powerball.

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/18/2007 8:11 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Thanks Scott. I'm looking mostly for 4's, but I have a handful of 3's, including 2 of my HOFers...I also have one common 5, but I don't generally go after those. Initially, I just wanted to have one T206, and decided to buy a 4. Then, I bought a few more 4s and decided to go after most of them in that grade. I'd like to upgrade my 3s at some point, but we'll have to see how it goes. Even without the big 4, I'm afraid of how much it will cost to do the set in PSA 4...

Doug





Date Posted: Dec/18/2007 8:34 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Doug
I did the math in doing it in 4 and just knew I had to tone it down. I wish you all the luck with it and hope all of us can stick with it. There's only a few of us left on this thread that are still actively adding cards.

Best,

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/18/2007 8:45 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I've been a little slow adding cards and scanning my few additions, but I'm still at it. Picked up a couple of new SL'ers this week:





Both SGC 40's, though I cracked the Hart out. I actually think it's a much sharper card than the Revelle...so I wouldn't worry too much about numeric grades, Doug. Trust your own eyes, not the graders'.

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Date Posted: Dec/19/2007 4:06 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)



Nice cards everyone. Steve, gotta love those big borders on that Hart. It seems to me that the market for Psa 5s and 6s have dropped quite a bit lately. Maybe not a bad time to pick up some of those cards. I just got a Psa 6 McCormick pretty reasonably.



Date Posted: Dec/19/2007 7:07 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Yeah, I love the dimensions of that Hart. It's actually cut a bit narrow, but the top border is huge.

I don't usually bid on or even follow PSA 6 auctions but I noticed some commons only go for their $139.99 opening bid last night. Some of it might have been, uh, uneasiness with the seller, but still. Does seem like a good time to buy those mid- to upper-mid-grade cards. Too bad I'm broke right now.

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Date Posted: Dec/19/2007 12:57 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< Too bad I'm broke right now. >>



I think most of us are around this time of year.

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Date Posted: Dec/19/2007 7:23 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Awesome cards as usual. The amount of Hindu's you have is crazy. I'd love to have your collection!

A few more low grade commons. The nice thing about these 4 is they all have clean Sovereign 350 backs. I got them all for about $19 apiece:




And some others:





Date Posted: Dec/19/2007 9:05 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Great pick-ups, Scott. That's a great deal, and with Sovereign backs too!

Another nice Hindu, Steve. I still don't have even 1!

Admittedly, I do get into the numeric grades sometimes more than I should. There are obviously some cards that present much more nicely than their numeric grade. Also, I've seen a lot of cards that are overgraded in my opinion. I have some 4s in this set that after seeing them in person seem overgraded by 1 or 2 grades.


Doug



Date Posted: Dec/20/2007 5:45 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Hope you all have a safe and happy Holiday Season. I'll be back after the new year.

Take care and it's been great to get to know you guys.

-Eric

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2007 8:56 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

That's just it, Doug. There's so much eye appeal variability in the grade tiers at which most of us collect that one really has to focus on the card more so than the number. Still, as one who's about to submit his last few PSA-slabbed cards to SGC, I can certainly appreciate the neurotic pull of consistency. We collectors are obviously a curious bunch.

Anyway, I'm now at 17 Hindus, which isn't too bad, though I'll probably forever be haunted by the George Davis I let go during my great T206 sell-off a couple of months ago. Even though it was pretty rough, the back was nice.

And I may be broke right now but that certainly hasn't stopped me from at least thinking of buying cards. I've been considering actually having a T206 strategy for 2008 instead of my usual totally random approach to collecting. I don't even know how long I'd last with a quota method, but I've been thinking of maybe just one or two new T206's or month so I could hopefully concentrate my budget on Hall of Famers. Or maybe just limit my purchases to Hall of Famers or commons with tougher backs.

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2007 3:32 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Steve - I've changed my strategy as well. I've been getting into T3's and now am ::gulp:: thinking of going into e300s. That means ive got to tighten my T206 budget.

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2007 3:48 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

T3's are amazing. I've been wanting one for quite some time and actually have a few tracked right now, but I'm afraid that once I have one, I wouldn't be able to stop. Then again, I've also told myself, No new sets! I've been able to stick to that one pretty well, but I recently picked up my first T205 in ages and forgot how much I liked them.

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Date Posted: Dec/20/2007 3:59 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Steve...please dont get into them...I have enough competition already. I actually started this set a year ago. Left because I thought collecting D304s were cooler. Left D304s and went to '15 CJs. Left '15 CJs and now im back at T3s. And they are about 25% more expensive now than they were a year ago. It is simply ridiculous how expensive these cards are relative to how plentiful they are.

and as an edit...T3's with the SGC slab are spectacular.

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Date Posted: Dec/28/2007 12:31 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

A few additions to get this to the top. A couple nice 3's, a deuce and a beater SLer.






Date Posted: Dec/28/2007 7:06 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Love the clarity of those 3's, Scott. And I'm guessing something's wrong with the back of the Crandall since it just looks so much nicer than the Molesworth, but I guess that's not unusual down in our grade range even without back issues.

One of my many card superstitions is to let a package "marinate" for a day or two before I open it. Improves the condition of the card inside, ya know. However, I could only let this one sit a few hours before I had to tear it open:



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Date Posted: Dec/28/2007 7:45 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Just an amazing card........congratulations.! I read your post on Net 54 about acquiring it via trade which I also agree is pretty cool.

The Crandall has no paperloss, I just think the Molesworth is overgraded. It's interesting that you brought up a comparison of the two because it goes along with an observation that I've come to recently. I seem to find a lot of Southern Leaguers that appear to be overgraded by PSA. I wonder if for some reason PSA is more lenient when grading them? I don't have a logical reason why that would be the case but that Molesworth is a 1 all day long IMO.

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/28/2007 8:04 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Thanks, man! It's pretty cool to finally have an Uzit. Now I need a Drum. Hopefully a St. Louis player, as well.

Hmm, I never thought about the grading of SL'ers, but you might be on to something. One of the worst PSA 4's I've ever owned was a Charlie Fritz with an obvious coast-to-coast crease through the central part of the card. In fact, the card was in PSA 2 holder when I bought it, but I cracked it out to include it on a regular invoice becaue it's holder was so thrashed and it was cheaper to have it graded again than it was to send in a reholdering invoice of just one card. Anyway, I agree that the Molesworth was very generously graded - not even sure if it would muster a 20 with SGC. Still, I generally pick up what I can when it comes to Southern Leaguers.

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Date Posted: Dec/28/2007 8:59 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Totally missed that the Uzit was a St. Louis player.........you must really be psyched!

I'm with you on the SLers......I just pick up what I can as long as it's not a total beater. I got the Molesworth for about the price of a 1 so I'm cool with it.





Date Posted: Dec/28/2007 9:46 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Congratulations on the Uzit, Steve!

I have been going crazy buying T206 the last few weeks, and am finally getting my new cards added to my registry set:

The holder for this Fred Clarke is dirty -- it looks worse in the scan than in person.







Doug



Date Posted: Dec/30/2007 5:21 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Doug
Sweet pickups. The Willis looks really nice.

Scott



Date Posted: Dec/31/2007 2:33 PM
Posted By: calaban7 (Expert Collector)

Wow, I just picked up my 1st T-206, Bill Bradley--portrait , a nifty PSA 5. My new goal for this year was to start this collection , looking for 5-to 6 a year. This is a nice start. Next up ---- Kitty Bransfield, PSA 5 or better.

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2007 2:48 PM
Posted By: hankcaddy (Veteran)

just working the b's to start?? probably as good a strategy as any other...
nice to see you got your 1st

kool

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2007 3:01 PM
Posted By: calaban7 (Expert Collector)



<< just working the b's to start?? probably as good a strategy as any other...
nice to see you got your 1st



Actually I've started a major project of collecting the cards in the THE GREAT AMERICAN BASEBALL CARD FLIPPING, TRADING , AND BUBBLE GUM BOOK. It was a great book when I was younger. Kitty Bransfield is the other T-206 in the book. I still plan on get going on this set and if 20 cards come before him, so be it.

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Date Posted: Jan/02/2008 10:31 AM
Posted By: hankcaddy (Veteran)



Just added this southern leaguer

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currently collecting baseball of
2004 spx
1989 topps psa 10
1974 topps psa 9




Date Posted: Jan/02/2008 7:36 PM
Posted By: ArnyVee (Expert Collector)

I need to pick up a few PSA 1s or 2s for the CU Birthday Club members. Anyone have extras that they need/could sell as a package deal?

PM me or e-mail me at [email protected] with lists of available cards. Thanks guys!

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* '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1



WaltDisneyBoards



Date Posted: Jan/03/2008 6:07 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

latest one



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Date Posted: Jan/03/2008 7:38 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Is that the nicest 2 I've ever seen....I think so. Is there a surface wrinkle you can't see in the scan?

Congrats Major on a great card!



Date Posted: Jan/03/2008 10:11 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Faint paste residue on back? Whatever the case, that's a nice Willis. I love cards like that: a grade-killing, but subtle flaw on an otherwise striking card.

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Date Posted: Jan/03/2008 10:28 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Wow, I certainly agree -- that card looks incredible for the grade!

Here are my most recent pickups:



Doug



Date Posted: Jan/04/2008 5:32 AM
Posted By: ArnyVee (Expert Collector)

Guys, still looking for some of those cards that you've upgraded from (PSA 1s, 2s, 3s) for the CU Birthday club members. I've got PayPal cash ready to send!

Ideally, I'd like to pick up quite a few decent looking 1s or a few 2s. Please PM me with what you guys have or e-mail me at [email protected] Thanks!

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* '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1



WaltDisneyBoards



Date Posted: Jan/04/2008 9:00 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

the card has a light crease from the top to the bottom of the card. Not easy to catch.

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Date Posted: Jan/06/2008 9:28 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Sorry, Arny, I don't have any duplicate 1s, 2s, or 3s...Who is the lucky guy with the birthday? I knew I should've joined that thread!


Doug



Date Posted: Jan/12/2008 2:52 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here's my latest pick up!


Doug



Date Posted: Jan/19/2008 4:38 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

No posts for a while, thought I would give it a jumpstart.. Just got these back from sgc



Date Posted: Jan/20/2008 6:23 AM
Posted By: Tabe (Collector)

Beckett.com has an article about a find of 550+ Sweet Caporal cards from a single collection, including a Wagner:


Beckett Story

Tabe

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Date Posted: Jan/21/2008 5:20 AM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)



<< Beckett.com has an article about a find of 550+ Sweet Caporal cards from a single collection, including a Wagner:


Beckett Story

Tabe
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I saw that. What a find indeed.

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Date Posted: Jan/21/2008 6:31 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

Cool story. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. It will be fun watch the Wagner at auction.



Date Posted: Jan/25/2008 7:55 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

two recent pickups



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Date Posted: Jan/26/2008 10:40 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Nice cards everybody!

A few recent pickups, nothing exciting. The Donlin has a cracked case and the Alperman has a qualifier although I don't think it was listed as such on the Net 54 B/S/T forum. The seller edited the card out when I agreed to buy it so I couldn't go back and see how he listed it. I decided just to keep it because the image is nice and it's centered well.









Date Posted: Jan/31/2008 1:23 PM
Posted By: crazylocomerk (Member)

Bump from page 3. Hope everyone is doing well.

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Date Posted: Feb/09/2008 10:04 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

I haven't been getting many T206's lately, but here's a nice one that arrived in today's mail!


Doug



Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 6:47 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Hey, kids! Nothing really new for me, but I did get an invoice back from SGC last week that had these two on there:





I had a good feeling the Demmitt's grade would go from PSA 1 to SGC 20, but a 30 was a great surprise. I had given the O'Hara a good grade on my spreadsheet so I was fairly confident it would land the 30, but it's always a relief when a major card comes back with the grade you wanted.

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 10:29 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

steve...nice one on the demmitt. purchase it raw?

Here is my most recent addition.



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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 11:26 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Nice Young! I can't believe I still don't have any Young cards from the set.

I bought the Demmitt as a PSA 1 in Huggins & Scott last spring. The O'Hara was raw when I acquired it in a trade for my a bunch of E92's about year and a half ago, I guess.

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:35 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Outstanding Demmitt and O'Hara!

Doug



Date Posted: Feb/19/2008 4:11 PM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)



well i saw this card on this thread in oct and loved it. i finally found one to pick up and i'm thrilled.

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Fred

collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)



Date Posted: Feb/20/2008 8:53 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Great Clarke! Since it was mine you saw in October you have to trade me that one! Your two looks better then my 3. Here is what I have been up to lately. A little distraction from T206.





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Date Posted: Feb/21/2008 6:34 AM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)

the clarke does look good it has a slight crease on the top and some clear glue residue on the back but you can barely see it, the corners are really nice as well.

what other ones do you have so i can see what one i want next?????????

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Fred

collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)



Date Posted: Feb/22/2008 10:31 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)



<< the clarke does look good it has a slight crease on the top and some clear glue residue on the back but you can barely see it, the corners are really nice as well.

what other ones do you have so i can see what one i want next?????????
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You really can't go wrong with any T206! Here are my latest additions:











Doug



Date Posted: Feb/23/2008 12:03 PM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)

DOUG YOUR RIGHT!!!

does anyone have any psa or sgc 1-2-3's available????

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Fred

collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)



Date Posted: Feb/23/2008 6:36 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)



<< does anyone have any psa or sgc 1-2-3's available???? >>



I take it you just want graded? I've given up on the Monster and have a bunch of f/g through vg/ex raw cards that I'm trying to sell.

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Date Posted: Feb/23/2008 6:59 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<<

<< does anyone have any psa or sgc 1-2-3's available???? >>



I take it you just want graded? I've given up on the Monster and have a bunch of f/g through vg/ex raw cards that I'm trying to sell.
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Steve,
How come you have decided to quit working on 'The Monster'?

Mark



Date Posted: Feb/23/2008 7:44 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I guess it mainly comes down to my lack of patience and hobby ADD. I'm not totally abandoning T206's, as I still plan to work on the St. Louis sets and collect a few other favorites. But in looking at my spreadsheet and checklist the other day and seeing how much I've spent and how much farther I had to go, I decided to throw in the towel. It wasn't completely a snap decision, but something that had been brewing for some time. There's just too many other cool cards out there for me to devote so much energy and money to one issue.

Besides, I don't consider myself an investor - though I guess we all are to some extent, like it or not - and have neither the hobby knowledge nor the impeccable timing to be a flipper, but I enjoy the buying/selling/trading aspect of the hobby as much as the owning part of it. I'm finding that I like a lean, mean collection with frequent rotation more so than a big collection with quasi-permanent sets. I guess many collectors focus on the question "How many more cards do I need to complete this set?" while I've started focusing on the unfocused question "How many cool cards can pass through my hands before I land what I really want?" And, of course, what I really want changes all the time.

That's probably a rambling, inarticulate answer to a simple question, but I hope it makes some sense.

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Date Posted: Feb/23/2008 7:49 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<< I guess it mainly comes down to my lack of patience and hobby ADD. I'm not totally abandoning T206's, as I still plan to work on the St. Louis sets and collect a few other favorites. But in looking at my spreadsheet and checklist the other day and seeing how much I've spent and how much farther I had to go, I decided to throw in the towel. It wasn't completely a snap decision, but something that had been brewing for some time. There's just too many other cool cards out there for me to devote so much energy and money to one issue.

Besides, I don't consider myself an investor - though I guess we all are to some extent, like it or not - and have neither the hobby knowledge nor the impeccable timing to be a flipper, but I enjoy the buying/selling/trading aspect of the hobby as much as the owning part of it. I'm finding that I like a lean, mean collection with frequent rotation more so than a big collection with quasi-permanent sets. I guess many collectors focus on the question "How many more cards do I need to complete this set?" while I've started focusing on the unfocused question "How many cool cards can pass through my hands before I land what I really want?" And, of course, what I really want changes all the time.

That's probably a rambling, inarticulate answer to a simple question, but I hope it makes some sense.
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Well, if you ever change your mind about keeping the Demmitt and O'Hara...I'm interested!

Mark



Date Posted: Feb/24/2008 8:02 AM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)

yawie
no not just graded, i have raw cards as well that i hope to get graded later. what do you have?

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Fred

collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)



Date Posted: Mar/02/2008 9:03 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

got this recently. thought i got it for a good price...or maybe t206 3's are trending downward too??



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Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 5:47 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Major
BEAUTIFUL Cobb!

I'm embarassed to post my recent pickups but I continue to forge ahead with a low grade set. I will not let the monster defeat me.








Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 5:59 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Some more pickups. I've also started buying SGC graded cards. The holders are really nice compared to PSA's. Being an avid reader of the Net 54 forum, I have given in to the SGC bias there!








Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 6:04 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

and a few more................






Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 8:33 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Wow, Scott!

Incredible number of pick-ups, and they look great!


Doug



Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 8:34 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Great looking Cobb, Major!

Doug



Date Posted: Mar/04/2008 11:12 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

scott...dont give up! We've seen too many fatalities in the last few months. If you find yourself getting burnt out, take a breather. or simply lay out all your cards on a table...the beauty of your collection will propel you forward!

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Date Posted: Mar/04/2008 3:51 PM
Posted By: baseballfan (Master Collector)

that's a nice lot, good job!!

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Fred

collecting RAW topps baseball cards 1952 to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, i'll take it, i want to finish sets, i must have something you can use for trade.

looking for topps 71-72 hi's-69-62-56-57, i have these sets started

if anyone has 75 topps mini i'm down to 2 cards 63 & 228 (brett)



Date Posted: Mar/04/2008 6:32 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Guys
Thanks for the kind words, they are appreciated.

Major
I'm not giving up, our ranks are thinning on this thread but I am going to see this thing through!

Best,

Scott



Date Posted: Mar/05/2008 1:32 AM
Posted By: mafoliq (Member)

Great cards everyone.. Steve, do you think you will make the attempt again? I find that the closer I get to finishing the monster, my collecting rate gets slower. I guess it's a combination of enjoying the chase as well as being unsure what to do with it when I'm finished. Picked these up at the Reading show last weekend. A pretty tough Hobby (correct name, no cin) and this very odd printing defect. I had never seen one like this before.

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Date Posted: Mar/05/2008 3:18 AM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

I dunno. I was thinking about that possibility the other day. I kinda doubt it, mainly because I very, very rarely go after cards I once owned. (I can only think of one example off the top of my head: an E95 Cobb.) But who knows how my life will unfold. Maybe as I get older and have more time and money - at least I hope I have more of those things as I age - I'll pick the set back up, but for now I'm very content to collect fewer cards and to collect in a random fashion.




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Date Posted: Mar/06/2008 7:15 PM
Posted By: bri2327 (Expert Collector)

Greetings all, its been a while !

Im buying a business in the next month and its time to let go of a vast portion of my collection to gather funds. Thus, all of my T206 cards are for sale if anyone is interested.

You can see what I have via the registry under bri2327's t206 collection. I am around 100th place and have around 30 cards available.

Anyone interested can feel free to PM me.

Brian

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Date Posted: Mar/06/2008 8:26 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Brian
PM sent.

Thanks.

scott



Date Posted: Mar/06/2008 9:48 PM
Posted By: Wondo (Master Collector)

Just picked up a cool Kid Elberfeld pic Looks like his T206



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Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 11:04 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

another one bites the dust.

good luck with your business, brian. i am sure that venture is much more important and meaningful than taming the monster. hope to see you back in the set once you start raking in those millions.

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Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 11:07 AM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

anyone watch those T206's on goodwin last night? I thought a lot of those prices were fairly low. A T206 cobb green SGC 50 went for 1700 (with juice). According to vcp, these cards go for about 300-400 more.

But, then again, the SGC 40 green cobb, which was a lot nicer than the 50, went for over 2 grand.

anyone bid and/or won any of the offered cards?

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Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 1:36 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Major
It's going to be You, Doug and me carrying the torch.

I won't give up!

Scott



Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 5:51 PM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)

I just wanted to say hello.

I've been reading the thread for some time now and have just begun my T206 journey. I haven't collected seriously in quite some time and did a lot of research before starting a new project. As I went over different types of sets and different era's of cards I kept finding myself loking at the T206's again and again. So I finally gave in and have taken aim at the T206 HOF set.

I have spent a lot of time reading about the set and comparing pricing. I've watched a lot of auctions on Ebay and won my first card last week (Rube Marquard, Follow Through, PSA 4.) Since then I have added two more (Chief Bender Pitching w/ Trees PSA 4, Nap Lajoie Throwing PSA 4) and continue to look all the time.

Again I just wanted to introduce myself. Thanks for all of the helpful info.



Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 7:11 PM
Posted By: mrbud60 (Member)

brian sent pm last night and also an email.gil



Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 9:27 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Scott....wonder what happened to the the poster who started this thread?..Ray? Last time I checked, he was trying to get an EDPG back T206 set.

A small part of me wants to give up, largely because of my T3 and HOF rookies projects. But, just a peak at my cy young portrait...or cobb red and green...brings me back.



<< Again I just wanted to introduce myself. Thanks for all of the helpful info. >>



Welcome aboard, brave fan! Share a pic or two of your recent purchases. And dont hesitate to ask questions, as all of us here are knowledgeable about the set.

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Date Posted: Mar/07/2008 9:59 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)



<< Major
It's going to be You, Doug and me carrying the torch.

I won't give up!

Scott
>>



I don't intend to give up either, but this torch feels like a bonfire some days! I have considered throwing in the towel, but for the moment, I'm into it now more than ever...

Welcome aboard, bravefan. You're really jumping in with both feet, going after the HOF T206 set! You're off to a very good start.


Doug



Date Posted: Mar/08/2008 9:36 AM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)

Here are my first 3 T206 purchases.





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Date Posted: Mar/08/2008 10:18 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)



<< Scott....wonder what happened to the the poster who started this thread?..Ray? Last time I checked, he was trying to get an EDPG back T206 set.

A small part of me wants to give up, largely because of my T3 and HOF rookies projects. But, just a peak at my cy young portrait...or cobb red and green...brings me back.



<< Again I just wanted to introduce myself. Thanks for all of the helpful info. >>



Welcome aboard, brave fan! Share a pic or two of your recent purchases. And dont hesitate to ask questions, as all of us here are knowledgeable about the set.
>>



Major
I talked to Ray via e-mail a few weeks back regarding an EPDG he might need. He is still going after the EPDG back set. I'm not sure why he doesn't post here anymore. I've seen him respond to some non T206 posts on the Net 54 B/S/T board so maybe he isn't as active in T206's as he once was. EPDG's are pretty tough so after you add a bunch you can probably go a decent amount of time before finding another one that you still need.

Welcome bravefan........being from Philly I'm not the biggest Brave fan in the world but I won't hold that against you lol. Should be a fun year in the NL East.

Scott



Date Posted: Mar/08/2008 6:39 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Noli
I just saw a post on Net 54 from a guy claiming to be MajorDanby talking about selling T206's. It's an imposter right?

Say it ain't so!

Scott



Date Posted: Mar/08/2008 9:28 PM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)

Scott,

I'm definitely excited about the NL East this year. I think it's going to be really competetive. Hopefully the Braves will be in the hunt come September and give Glavine and Lopez another shot at the post season before they're done.

Tim

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Date Posted: Mar/08/2008 9:54 PM
Posted By: MajorDanby (Collector)

Scott

I need to sell a portion of my set. I've whittled down my T3 and HOF Rookies set to the point where they contain only cards I really want..and even sold a few T206's that either i knew i could get a good profit from or wanted to (and can easily) upgrade in the future....but, i still havent reduced the amount of money sunk into my collection to a point where i can pay off a chunk of my student loans. I'm not getting out of the set....just rehoning it and scaling back. As evidenced by my recent purchase of the cobb bat off above, i'll still buy a T206 if I really wanted it or was at a good price. The poster "Joe" in the thread actually makes a good point...T206's overall are not incredibly hot at the moment, so it's better to be a buyer than a seller. But, paying those loans every month is quite a burden...and i might be going back to school this Fall, so i need to be more pragmatic about my finances.



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Date Posted: Mar/08/2008 10:42 PM
Posted By: yawie99 (Expert Collector)

Be careful, Danby! That's what ultimately led to my demise. Well, not exactly, as I wasn't selling to pay off student loans but I did begin by weeding out dupes and cards with weak registration in part to take care of some other bills. Next thing I knew, my quest was essentially over.

But it's probably true that one could replace most of the set's cards relatively easily and without too much additional expense, if any at all. I know some collectors are expecting a bit of a spike in prices for the 100th anniversary, but I think most T206 values will remain relatively flat. Heck, 5's through 7's seem to be down quite a bit.

Can't say I have any regrets about selling, though. I kinda miss some of the Hindus when I see them on "recent pick-up" threads, but it's nice to have more time and money for other cards. The funny thing is that my latest acquisition is a card that was at or near the top of my want list because I knew I'd never own its T206 counterpart. But even having succumbed to the Monster, I'm still really happy to finally have a Plank portrait:




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Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 7:49 AM
Posted By: sonoranmonsoon (Collector)

Although I do not post on this thread very often, I do enjoy reading it regulary. Thought I would just step up to the plate with my thoughts on some of the recent comments.

For most of us, this is not a set that can be put together quickly like many others. It really is a long term adventure. Short term burnout will happen when taming any monster. It happens to me every couple of years, especially when money is tight. I made the mistake of selling off many of my T206's many years ago, only to get a revived interest again. Had to slowly buy back everything I sold, at higher prices. After that, I made a promise to myself to just take a break and leave the collection alone for awhile everytime I wanted to give up. That seems to have helped me hang in there.

For those of you that are thinking of selling right now for financial reasons, this is probably not the best time to do so. If you can wait at least a year, you may do better. I do not quite accept that the 100 year anniversery in itself will make a difference, but it will provide better exposure to the series right about the time that we should be working out of a reccession. Right now there are to many factors depressing the prices. People spend less on luxuries during reccessions (this is a luxury). Also there are a lot of alternatives for investment and collecting dollar right now. Gold and silver are hot, making lower grade coins an interesting alternative for many collecting dollars. A depressed stock market and Real Estate market will also start to look like very attractive alternative investments.

In the long run T206's will continue to increase. Both from their outstanding collector appeal and their investment potential. There is not an overwhelming supply of them, any uptick in demand will push prices up. But that is not the case right now.

I have been buying strongly for my collection the last 6 months, taking advantage of the price weakness. As someone else noted the prices for PSA-4 through PSA-7 have been particularly weak. I would add to that list the common HOF's. The Southern leaguer's and PSA 1-3 have held their own. The true rarities, demmit, o'hara, magae, etc actually seem strong; as well as truely rare backs.

I have watched a slight increase in prices overall the last 2 weeks, but I think it will be short lived. I suspect it is the result of tax refund checks rolling in.

Anyway, I am one of the collectors that will be sticking around. I hope those of you on the fence will hang in there also.



Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 9:22 AM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

Steve
Awesome Plank..........I really love some of those E sets.

Major
Glad to hear you are still in the game. I was just joking around with my post, I know how those bills, especially student loans can pile up.

Best,

Scott



Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 10:53 AM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)

When someone gets a chance could they give me a quick heads up of how I insert pics into my posts.

Thanks in advance.



Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 12:38 PM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)

A couple of questions about card values.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I am new to seriously collecting cards of this kind. I have been doing as much reading and research on the T206 set as I can to educate myself as much as possible about what I am buying.

First of all I know a card is truly only worth what I pay for it when I buy it or what I am paid for it when I sell it.

So far I have been using several different sites to try and figure out what the approximate price a card could sell for. I use Cardpricer.com, T206.org, and T-206.com. I also track all the Ebay auctions for cards in the set I am looking for and record what price the cards sell for. I combine all of these numbers in a spread sheet and figure a price I think to be a fair market price for the card. Is this a good method? Are there any suggestions any of you have that may be of help?

Also T206.org is the only site that will give you a price valuation taking the cards back into consideration. Is there anything that can help me evaluate when a card is worth more based on a certain back? I have looked at population reports on the PSA website but that doesn’t help me to know how much value to add to the card in real dollars.




Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 12:46 PM
Posted By: lamontcarter (Veteran)

abf
I would suggest vintagecardpricer.com. It's like $10 a month. I don't use it but everyone that does seems to find it very helpful. It tracks all ebay as well as auction house auctions. From what I understand I think it would eliminate the need to keep that spreadsheet which is probably pretty time consuming.

I've been debating on signing up for some time but I'm not sure I'd get my moneys worth as I only collect T206's. FRom just watching ebay I know what commons go for in the particular grades and I adjust accordingly if it's a more difficult to find common. I think VCP would be more helpful when you're talking about star/hof's/slers.

Scott



Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 9:28 PM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)



<< abf
I would suggest vintagecardpricer.com.

Scott
>>



I signed up to the site for 1 month, figured $10 was worth the info if it was everything they claim. It's exactly what I was looking for. They have extremely up to date info. Thanks for the suggestion.

I used the site along with my info and purchased 3 more cards tonight.

John McGraw Finger in Air Sovereign
Joe Tinker Bat Off Shoulder Sovereign
Walter Johnson Portrait Sweet Caporal

All PSA 4

The Johnson took a big hit on the budget and will probably slow me down a bit.



Date Posted: Mar/09/2008 10:45 PM
Posted By: ROCKCITYCHRIS (Member)

Its been forever since I have picked one up but Im not out of the game! Been distracted with some cool caramel cards. My latest



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My autograph Collection
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/ROCKCITY24/?start=0



Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 8:20 AM
Posted By: Seminolelaw (Member)

I too am trying to put the Monster set together. E-bay (BooksontheGulf) and Set registry "SeminoleLaw". I am still finding it difficult to pick up Hall of Famers in 5 or 6 for decent prices. The economy does not appear to be affecting these cards as much as one would think. Anyone wishing to sell off any Cobbs, Johnson, Lajoie and Youngs at a fair price let me know. Thanks



Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 12:43 PM
Posted By: abravefan11 (Member)

Last 3 purchases.







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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 8:39 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

More great pick ups, braves fan!

As far as photohosting goes, photobucket.com is free. You can get an account, upload pictures, and copy the IMG code directly into a post, and your picture is embedded in your text.

Alternatively, if you register your cards