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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:05 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

For those of you that know the 52 Bowman Large football set, you know how very tough it is to find well centered cards especially the HOF'ers, well I just picked this beauty up off of Ebay and I must say Im very happy!

Thanks to Stown and Big Daddy Bowman I stepped into the Vintage Football collecting arena recently and I cannot get enough of it, I am mainly focusing on '52 Bowman Large along with some 50/51 Bowman and 55 Topps AA's as well. There are a bunch of you Vintage Football guys on here and I would love to see some of your new purchases or some of your favorites in your collection.





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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:06 PM
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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:08 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Is that Ronald Reagan?

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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:13 PM
Posted By: goose3 (Sick Twisted Freak)

Yep! The Gipper!

was the first thing I thought of when I saw your nice card!



Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:16 PM
Posted By: carew4me (Master Collector)



One of my all-time favorites. How can you not love Bowman Football 1950-1955!

How about the arm growing from the head??


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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:21 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

i got 50 bowmans psa 8 frank tripuka and tank younger last night, put em on the mail call thread

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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 1:25 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< i got 50 bowmans psa 8 frank tripuka and tank younger last night, put em on the mail call thread >>



Rube did you win that Younger on Ebay? the PSA 8 for $102? If so Im VERY angry at you! But if you happen to have a 7 that you would sell me I might forgive!

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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 7:33 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Paul...that Graham is Stellar! I am truly envious......hey I will trade you a nice 50 Bowman PSA 7 Glenn Army Davis for it! interested? Damn! didn't think so! LOL truly awesome card.

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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 8:02 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< >>



Sports look alikes. Ronald Reagan?

Edit to add. Someone beat me to it. It is Reagan.

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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 8:07 PM
Posted By: CDsNuts (Choose Your Title)

No kidding. I've got like 9 or 10 Frank Gifford's, all perfectly centered with sharp corners.



Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 8:09 PM
Posted By: JasP24 (Expert Collector)

One of my favorites of my NFL HOF RC set:



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Date Posted: Dec/14/2007 9:15 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

<Rube did you win that Younger on Ebay? the PSA 8 for $102? If so Im VERY angry at you! But if you happen to have a 7 that you would sell me I might forgive!>


might have been-think it was my twin brother
i didnt know you were going to start doing 50 bows paul?did you get the fever for 50 bows too?i have to start getting so of the heavy weight cards in 8,s,ive been working on the commons for so long,it time to shell out some bucks and get doak-lou the toe-perry-motley-otto-hirsch-lavell-/knox- trippi/ probably forgetting somebody im sure,think my baugh is a 7
need em all 8's to shoot me up, all of mine are 6's thats hurting me on the registry,commons dont move ya up much but need em all 8 or 9 even,the star card in high grade knock ya up pretty quick
i either gotta work on star cards or start getting my autos slabbed for the all auto set and blue flips switched to reds with grade


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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 8:42 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 12:34 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Not enough TAAs in here





































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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 12:36 PM
Posted By: SportsItUpCards (Expert Collector)

WOW! I love those All-Americans To bad they didn't make any for Basketball back in the day

Giovanni

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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 12:50 PM
Posted By: BigRedMachine (Expert Collector)

Paul, that Graham is stunning. Congrats on the pickup.

Stown, looks like some of those used to be mine.

I gave up on the set but kept these two beauties for myself. Two of my favorite cards.




Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 12:55 PM
Posted By: goraiders (Collector)

wow!seeing beautiful cards like these make me want to venture into the 50's.
as if you didnt already know=great looking cards!

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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 1:20 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thanks for the pics guys! Those All-Americans are awesome! Believe it or not I never gave them a second look before but after seeing a few posted I picked a couple of them up and I hold them in the same category as the early Bowmans, truly a great set!

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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 1:28 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

The 55 Bowman set is a sometimes overlooked set...but it is truly beautifully designed.





and I have always loved the 48's just because the Black and White makes them look so OLD!





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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 1:38 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan, I have said it many times as far as variety goes you are right up there! You set the bar for me my friend ever since you sent me your slideshow of your collection!

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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 1:59 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Nice Otto Graham pick up. Looks high-end and the centering is perfect. Love those '55 Bowman's too. That's the first vintage FB set I ever completed.

That Babe Parilli card always makes me smile. Double jointed or what? Good stuff.



Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 3:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Gotta love these guys photo shoots! Otto Graham again...




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Date Posted: Dec/15/2007 3:20 PM
Posted By: fiveniner (Expert Collector)

I know that you do not find me commenting too often on football but old Vintage Football is great.I have always been very impressed by the old timers.I have a little bit more work to with with my 59 Topps Baseball set then I plan on starting a collection of pre 59 Football with most of the collecting centered around the Early Bowmans .

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Date Posted: Dec/16/2007 6:11 AM
Posted By: gotsparks09 (Collector)

A few favorites from my (thus far) miniscule '51 bowman collection:



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Date Posted: Dec/16/2007 7:29 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ray those '51's are Awesome! I have the Bednarik and Speedie in 7 but I think yours might be a tad nicer!

BTW that Baugh is high on my list of things to get come the new year!

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 8:10 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Any of you guys collect '53 Bowman football? I hardly ever see any pics or talk about it. I will eventually pick up a few myself, I actually like the old school photography used, definately gives it a vintage look.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 9:09 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

I love the '51s and one day I'll do the set.

Thanks, as always, for sharing

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 9:41 AM
Posted By: puckhd27 (Member)



<< For those of you that know the 52 Bowman Large football set, you know how very tough it is to find well centered cards especially the HOF'ers, well I just picked this beauty up off of Ebay and I must say Im very happy!

Thanks to Stown and Big Daddy Bowman I stepped into the Vintage Football collecting arena recently and I cannot get enough of it, I am mainly focusing on '52 Bowman Large along with some 50/51 Bowman and 55 Topps AA's as well. There are a bunch of you Vintage Football guys on here and I would love to see some of your new purchases or some of your favorites in your collection.



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That is one sweet card.

Pete



Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 10:59 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Any of you guys collect '53 Bowman football? I hardly ever see any pics or talk about it. I will eventually pick up a few myself, I actually like the old school photography used, definately gives it a vintage look. >>



Paul...your wish is my command. Here are a few of my favs...














The 53's are my least favorite Bowman issue...they are really tough to find in higher grades.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 11:17 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)


the jet in 8- it be sweet

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 11:43 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Silly Me! I should have known Ryan would have some '53's! I would not like to be in front of Motley trying to tackle him!

I actually like the '53's over the 55 Bowman issue, Great looking cards Ryan and as always thanks for posting some pics! I envy your collection man!!!!!

BTW- My order of favorites..

1-1952 Bowman Large
2-1950 Bowman
3-1951 Bowman
4-1955 Topps All American
5-1954 Bowman
6-1953 Bowman
7-1957 Topps
8-1955 Bowman

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 11:43 AM
Posted By: gregm13 (Master Collector)

The 53 bowman are VERY tough to find in high grade. Does anyone know the story behind the 53 issuance? It seems that I rarely see any high grade for sale. Were they produced in lesser quantity than the 52's?

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 11:49 AM
Posted By: ChrisC (Senior Member)

Here's some 54's














Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 12:01 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Love that 54 Graham, I wouldnt be suprised if it was a copy from this photo maybe?



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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 12:05 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That 54 Van Brocklin reminds me of a martian!

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 12:07 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< Love that 54 Graham, I wouldnt be suprised if it was a copy from this photo maybe? >>



That was my thought when I first saw the picture.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 12:09 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

After studying the card and the picture I am certain that it is. The bottom right under the brownie guy sells me on it.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 1:52 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Hey Stown...




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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 1:54 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 1:58 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

And another little taste for my good friend Stown!



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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 1:58 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Yeah, keep it up... I'll start chasing 7s and overbid just out of spite.



Nice cards

Edited to let other in on the inside joke:

Link

Owner's Comments:
Yet another set to blow money on. I blame perkdog and dam him to hades.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 2:02 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Yeah, keep it up... I'll start chasing 7s and overbid just out of spite.



Nice cards

Edited to let other in on the inside joke:

Link

Owner's Comments:
Yet another set to blow money on. I blame perkdog and dam him to hades.
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See how easy it is? All you gotta do is post a few Vintage football pics and it can make you turn into a fiend searching for a fix!

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 2:06 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Well, it worked Since I already had a Baugh and the TAAs are getting thin, might as well..

Here's the first of 144 6s that I'll eventually purchase.



PS perk still sux



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Date Posted: Dec/21/2007 2:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That is a sweet card B! A very nice place to start...

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 7:57 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Anyone got any new purchases they want to show off?

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 9:13 AM
Posted By: JasP24 (Expert Collector)

Finally picked this one up a couple of weeks ago..



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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 9:52 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice card Jason, I assume that is a HOF rookie? Either way those 50 Bowman hands down have some of the very best artwork!

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 9:53 AM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

I've been looking for a Canadeo 8 for some time. Was that off Ebay Jason?

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 9:56 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

perk sux donkey bells







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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 10:03 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Stown, nice 51's! LMK when I should stop calling you Mr.AA and start with Mr. 51



addict.

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 10:06 AM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

Wow, how did that Canadeo PSA 8 get past Rube? He only has a PSA 7 in his registry set.

Edited to add: Maybe because it's a $1,500 card.

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 10:17 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Stown-I didn't realize your putting together a 51 Set in PSA6. I bid on several the other night...and LOST (I think based on the ebay ID to you) Unfortunately, I probably made you pay more. In the future PM me and let me know ones you want to bid on, so we don't compete with each other. I can do the same. I hate to see us compete and pay more. There is plenty more out there for all of us.

Here are a few 51 bowman upgrades I picked up the other night:









P.S. PERK doesn't suck!



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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 10:29 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I know this is not the mail call thread (havn't got them yet..so not truly mail call any way), but since we are talking vintage football cards...I figured I would post 2 53's I also picked up the other night. I have been seeking a nicely centered 53 Tittle for a LONG time...and I finally got one right before the end of the year...WOO HOO!.







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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 10:43 AM
Posted By: JasP24 (Expert Collector)



<< I've been looking for a Canadeo 8 for some time. Was that off Ebay Jason? >>



Yep, an off ebay deal...I couldn't stomach paying the $1500+ these had been selling for on ebay..Finally found one within my price range. Turned out to be quite a nice one, with better than average color registration.

Jason

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 11:11 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

AWesome Cards AGAIN Ryan! Thank You for showing them here!

I too am looking for a '53 Tittle, not my favorite set but the Tittle and Graham cards are ones I would like to get for my collection.

I try to stick with 7's but those 6's that you and Barry have are top shelf!

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 11:27 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)


tony for my 50 bowman autographed set

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 11:36 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< AWesome Cards AGAIN Ryan! Thank You for showing them here!

I too am looking for a '53 Tittle, not my favorite set but the Tittle and Graham cards are ones I would like to get for my collection.

I try to stick with 7's but those 6's that you and Barry have are top shelf!
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Thanks Paul....Good Luck on the Tittle and Graham in 7's...Very tough to find and VERY expensive. I have looked for both for a long time.....still looking for a nicely centered Graham in 6 or above.

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 11:40 AM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

It is very nice. If it was on a dealers site, I'm just surprised I missed it. Congrats. If you see another, LMK

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 1:22 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< P.S. PERK doesn't suck! >>



Your Jedi Mind Trick won't work with me, buddy.

Think of it this way:

Had perk not got me hooked on the '51s, you would have won the ones I did and at lower prices.

So yes, he does suck.



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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 3:01 PM
Posted By: TJMAC (Veteran)

Wow, some of those cards are works of art. Unfortunately, I haven't heard of a lot of the players prior to the late 60's. I know the big names like Groza, Baugh, Layne, Graham etc., but I am unfamiliar with many of the others. I love looking at them though.



Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 3:07 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<< P.S. PERK doesn't suck! >>



Your Jedi Mind Trick won't work with me, buddy.

Think of it this way:

Had perk not got me hooked on the '51s, you would have won the ones I did and at lower prices.

So yes, he does suck.

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You know...your'e right....PERK DOES SUCK!!!!!

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 3:13 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



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<< P.S. PERK doesn't suck! >>



Your Jedi Mind Trick won't work with me, buddy.

Think of it this way:

Had perk not got me hooked on the '51s, you would have won the ones I did and at lower prices.

So yes, he does suck.

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Stown makes a pretty compelling argument with regards to Perkdog sucking... but as long as he stays with 1951 instead of 1950 Bowman, well, I like him just fine! I got enough competition on that set from other CU members.



Snorto~



Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 3:17 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<<

<< P.S. PERK doesn't suck! >>



Your Jedi Mind Trick won't work with me, buddy.

Think of it this way:

Had perk not got me hooked on the '51s, you would have won the ones I did and at lower prices.

So yes, he does suck.

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Stown makes a pretty compelling argument with regards to Perkdog sucking... but as long as he stays with 1951 instead of 1950 Bowman, well, I like him just fine! I got enough competition on that set from other CU members.



Snorto~
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True ...and all of you better stay away from the 48 Bowman or I am sicking Rube on you!

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Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 3:22 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<<

<<

<<

<< P.S. PERK doesn't suck! >>



Your Jedi Mind Trick won't work with me, buddy.

Think of it this way:

Had perk not got me hooked on the '51s, you would have won the ones I did and at lower prices.

So yes, he does suck.

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Stown makes a pretty compelling argument with regards to Perkdog sucking... but as long as he stays with 1951 instead of 1950 Bowman, well, I like him just fine! I got enough competition on that set from other CU members.



Snorto~
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True ...and all of you better stay away from the 48 Bowman or I am sicking Rube on you!
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I am a long way off on starting that one... I am only at around 33% on 1948 Leaf and 1950 Bowman with singles still popping up frequently enough that I am not tempted to start another project. However, since you started with the Rube threats, I think I will PM him with regards to your recent venture into the Chicles long before I am done with my beater set. I am pretty sure the few $15 pick ups I had from Rube as he upgraded his amazing 1950 Bowman set has earned me one free leg breaking.



Snorto~



Date Posted: Jan/01/2008 3:36 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Don't worry, I won't go after those..... just yet.


MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 4:30 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ok so where are we at? Regrettably for me I havn't picked up anything new recently but I figured I would see how the community is doing...

Anyone pick up some new stuff lately?

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 4:37 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Scanners down, but I got 2 cards in today:
1948 Leaf #2 Steve Suhey PSA 8
1957 Topps #103 Jim Mutscheller PSA 8

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 4:39 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

I received this '48 leaf sammy baugh RC psa 3 from Scott (elsnorto) in a trade the other day. Great card, Scott is a great guy. My first 48 leaf football card.




Cool thread.

Perk- vintage football is fun, isn't it. Can put together some sets at great value, there is a lot of variety in the early sets, and it's a nice change from vintage baseball.

John

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 4:42 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 5:08 PM
Posted By: CDsNuts (Choose Your Title)

heh, his name has tit in it.



Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 5:16 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< I received this '48 leaf sammy baugh RC psa 3 from Scott (elsnorto) in a trade the other day. Great card, Scott is a great guy. My first 48 leaf football card.



Cool thread.

Perk- vintage football is fun, isn't it. Can put together some sets at great value, there is a lot of variety in the early sets, and it's a nice change from vintage baseball.

John
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It is a blast! I have always loved the vintage look of the early Bowmans and since diving into it I am hooked! BTW-That is a gorgeous Baugh! I have yet to buy my first '48/'49 Leaf card and I cant wait to get my hands on one, Vintage Football is the way to go IMO! I have been inspired to get this thread going from all the football collectors on this board and love the pics!

Thanks again guys!

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 5:18 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Scanners down, but I got 2 cards in today:
1948 Leaf #2 Steve Suhey PSA 8
1957 Topps #103 Jim Mutscheller PSA 8
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I know you are one of the heavy hitters and would love to see some scans!

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 5:24 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

I know you are one of the heavy hitters and would love to see some scans!

HAHA. Definitely heavy, but that's about it.
Once I get it working again, I'll post them

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 8:21 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Here are 2 new Brownies that arrived today:





the 46-55 Browns...what a team! They also went undefeated in a season..but don't get credit because they were in the AAFC. Not real fair..the AFL records count towards NFL stats, but the AAFC don't. Many of the great Browns get overlooked due to this fact. Mac Speedie is one that ranks amongst the games greatest receivers...but he rarely gets the recognition he deserves.

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 8:22 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

someone posted abou thte '55 bowman football on the thread (sorry forgot who)

that set is unbelievably great looking. I'm getting fairly close to being done with a low/mid grade set and plan to frame all the HOFers. trying to figure out how to do them. any ideas??
I was thinking maybe in numerical card order, OR in player position order (qbs, then rbs, then wrs, lineman, etc), or in some kind of a lineup format like this:

WR T G C G T WR
HB QB HB

or something like that, but not sure if the players will work out or not. open to ideas.

John

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 8:27 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)










WHAT A TEAM!!!!

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 8:33 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< someone posted abou thte '55 bowman football on the thread (sorry forgot who)

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I believe that was me....I love the 55's. Suggestion: I made several large poster prints of some of my cards on photobucket...you could do that with your 55's instead of putting the actual cards in the frames. Here is an example:



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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 8:36 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

Nice! how did you print it out?

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 8:42 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice! how did you print it out? >>




real easy...as long as you have the cards scanned onto photobucket. It took about 15 minutes total. You can add words..different colored backgrounds. Its on photo paper too. Only took them about4 days to ship it and it only cost about 20 bucks. I have the poster hanging in my office at school..The frame cost more than the print!..A lot safer than hanging the real cards.

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 9:01 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

Oh I see, they mail it to you. that's real neat! I'll have to remember that.

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Date Posted: Jan/15/2008 11:30 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< I received this '48 leaf sammy baugh RC psa 3 from Scott (elsnorto) in a trade the other day. Great card, Scott is a great guy. My first 48 leaf football card.




Cool thread.

Perk- vintage football is fun, isn't it. Can put together some sets at great value, there is a lot of variety in the early sets, and it's a nice change from vintage baseball.

John
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John,

Thanks again for the trade and I am glad you posted a scan here so I can have visitation rights with my dearly departed Slingin' Sammy rookie. Should you have similar desires to see Mr. Trippi again, he is over on the mail call thread. You're ok for a Packers fan...



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Date Posted: Feb/06/2008 6:51 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I tried to take a break from Vintage Football for a bit but I saw this on the Bay and tried to get fairly cheap, ended up winning it for $95, not the best centered card but still very nice IMO.




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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 7:24 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Anyone else got anything new? How is my friend Stown doing on his '51 Bowmans?

I still havnt been able to find a nice Frank Gifford rookie, since my deal with BMW fell apart Im back to square one again

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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 2:05 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Anyone?

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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 2:15 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< How is my friend Stown doing on his '51 Bowmans? >>



Yeah, yeah.. Keep rubbing it in.



I have some scan worthy cards but keep forgetting them at the office.



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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 2:17 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I Knew I would grab your eye with this thread Barry! I checked to see if you were online before I brought it to the top again!

Moving right along on those 51's I see, definately post some scans when you get the chance, I would love to see them

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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 3:58 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)


always thought this guy looked like he was gettin ready to drop a duece



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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 4:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Looks like a golf pro running up behind him!


Very nice card Joe!

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Date Posted: Feb/07/2008 5:08 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Looks like a golf pro running up behind him!


Very nice card Joe!
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thanks Paul, I actually traded it a few days ago, found an upgrade

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:15 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Some scans of some of my 52's...







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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:15 AM
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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:17 AM
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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 3:52 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Bump! Anyone got any new cards to show off?

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 4:31 PM
Posted By: JasP24 (Expert Collector)

Picked this one up the other day..



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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 4:32 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Paul..those are some awesome cards! Love the Baugh...that is one of my all-time favs. What did the Waterfield set you back?

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 4:37 PM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

Super lot of card Paul - nice centering.

Is the set on the registry?

Jason - that's a sweet card with super centering!

I like FB but have only done modern sets.

Thanx for sharing
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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 4:38 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan, I got it some time ago and I cant recall how much I spent. The Baugh is my favorite as well, that one I know I paid $325 for, as much as I love a variety of cards for my collection I always tend to lean more heavy on the '52's, the large set is by far my favorite! They are tough as nails to get well centered NM though!

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 4:41 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Super lot of card Paul - nice centering.

Is the set on the registry?

Jason - that's a sweet card with super centering!

I like FB but have only done modern sets.

Thanx for sharing
mike
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Thanks Mike! I have them listed in the registry under "Perkdogs 52 Large Football" I have a TON of holes that I want to fill, no way I could ever hope to complete the set in 7 grade unfortunately- it seems some cards dont exist! I have NEVER seen a few of my favorites for sale in 7 or 8 grade,IE:Norm Van Brocklin or Charlie Conerly. SUPER TOUGH!

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 5:42 PM
Posted By: envoy98 (Expert Collector)

I just added these two to my HOF set about an hour ago. Picked them up from a local dealer who finally told me he was holding them until I specifically asked if he had seen any of these. I am absolutely Stunned by the Hinkle. It exceeded my expectations in every single way.








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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 5:42 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 5:59 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

100!



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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 6:02 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Envoy you should be stunned! That Hinckle is sweeeeeet!

Stown-great 55's! I can always count on some nice pics from your set, thanks!

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:05 PM
Posted By: envoy98 (Expert Collector)

Going in tomorrow for a review. 7.5 maybe....?

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:27 PM
Posted By: Clemaz (Collector)

I know there is a card of Joe Paterno late 40's early 50's depicting him at Brown University. Does any one have this card? I would love to see a scan of it.

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:35 PM
Posted By: envoy98 (Expert Collector)

He has a card in the 1950 Topps Felt Backs set.

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:38 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Here's Paterno's Feltback:



Doug



Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 8:52 PM
Posted By: Clemaz (Collector)

Thanks guys for the fast respose on the Paterno card. The card is not nearly as nice as the Bowmans, but is still cool to see an old Paterno card.

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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 9:23 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

You're welcome! It has a Brown pennant on the back, but I don't have a scan of the back.

Doug



Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 9:42 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Phenomenal Chicles, envoy! This is quickly becoming my favorite thread. Too much of that... what do they call it, "baseball", stuff in the Mail Call one!



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Date Posted: Feb/12/2008 10:22 PM
Posted By: envoy98 (Expert Collector)

Thanks guys. The Edwards is obviously pretty OC, but the Hinkle more than made up for my commitment to purchase sight-unseen!

By the way, it's boxed up and heading for Newport Beach in the morning.

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Date Posted: Feb/13/2008 5:58 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Thanks guys. The Edwards is obviously pretty OC, but the Hinkle more than made up for my commitment to purchase sight-unseen!

By the way, it's boxed up and heading for Newport Beach in the morning.
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I hope that gets a bump for you, seriously that is a gorgeous card. I have yet to venture there, I hope to find a nice chicle and a leaf for my collection sometime soon.

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Date Posted: Feb/13/2008 6:11 AM
Posted By: JasP24 (Expert Collector)



<< Thanks guys. The Edwards is obviously pretty OC, but the Hinkle more than made up for my commitment to purchase sight-unseen!

By the way, it's boxed up and heading for Newport Beach in the morning.
>>



I've got lesser PSA 7 Chicle's at PSA for review as we speak...Wise decision to attemp the bump...A 7.5, you'll probably double its value. PSA 8's being 5K+...

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Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 3:21 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Well my little break from Vintage is officially over. My newest addition...





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Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 3:27 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



I now have a 5, 6, and 7.



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Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 3:33 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

No big deal Barry. Just an 8 and 9 to go and you will be all set

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Date Posted: Mar/03/2008 4:35 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Well my little break from Vintage is officially over. My newest addition...



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Paul-

Sweet Ollie...the centering is great! The Ollie is fairly tough to get nicely centered. I like the 54's...nice pics and they are pretty underpriced right now.



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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 2:39 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan got me all fired up the other day dangling a beautifull SGC 7 1952 Small Norm Van Brocklin, so did not stop until I could find a decent one myself, the back is wax/gum free and for $63 I had to have this!!! This is a perfect example of me buying the "Card" not the holder..




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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 2:42 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Ryan got me all fired up the other day dangling a beautifull SGC 7 1952 Small Norm Van Brocklin, so did not stop until I could find a decent one myself, the back is wax/gum free and for $63 I had to have this!!! This is a perfect example of me buying the "Card" not the holder..


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Paul
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 2:45 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thanks Ryan! Im sure this wont be the last time I need to attempt to copy a purchase you make!

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 3:44 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Thanks Ryan! Im sure this wont be the last time I need to attempt to copy a purchase you make! >>



I have always believed that there really is not THAT much of a difference between a 5 and a 7. A nice 5 or 6 often look very similar. Your 5 looks great....here is another example of a card I know your also hunting....sometimes a nice lower grade is the way to go!


Are you still going after that 52 Gifford you showed me the other day? Keep us informed. Good Luck!

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 4:39 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Agreed on some of those 5's, that Gifford is a PERFECT example! I have seen 7's that have absolutely NOTHING on that card!


And YES I am still in the hunt for that Gifford, however I do have a deal in the infant stages right now for one that is being graded as we speak. Details will follow once a deal is made, but for now that information is deemed highly sensitive and is under lockdown.

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 5:31 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 5:33 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 5:38 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 6:11 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very nice 60's stuff! Some day when I get my fill of 50's stuff I will venture into the 1960's, I love those 66's!

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 6:30 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 6:33 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



All the cards I posted I have complete sets of or are working on the set.
This is a great thread for show and tell and made me get off my lazy butt
scan them and show some of my cards. I really enjoy my vintage football.
Joe

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 6:35 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 6:59 PM
Posted By: bigfische (Collector)

Im still plugging away on 51 bowman, but i havent been buying much lately.

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 7:02 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Im still plugging away on 51 bowman, but i havent been buying much lately. >>



Well, when you do get some new ones post away!

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:12 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:12 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:13 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:14 PM
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:15 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)




More? Or is everyone tired of my football collection? I just had some time to post
tonight as I updated my 1963 Fleer set in the registry. I added pictures to most
of the key cards and comments on most of the players. If you are truly bored out
of your minds and nothing else to do go take a look at the set. It really is one of
my favorite sets. The colors are classic and I'm an old AFL guy so I have seen
most of the players play during their career.

1963 Fleer PSA Regisrty 100% 7.66 GPA

Or take a look at my all time Bills set. Have fun.

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:30 PM
Posted By: SKINSFAN (Collector)

Perk and BigDaddy those are very sweet looking 52 psa 5,s

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2008 9:36 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Great stuff, 2deuces! I especially liked your '63 Fleer set and your comments.


Doug



Date Posted: Mar/12/2008 12:07 PM
Posted By: bigfische (Collector)

a couple of my modest 51's. Got the Otto from BigDaddyBowman.



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Date Posted: Mar/12/2008 12:26 PM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

When I was a kid in NYC - we were Giant fans and Giff was like a God with the women in my family!





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Date Posted: Mar/12/2008 2:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thanks for the pics guys! 2Deuces-very nice collection! Im jealous!! I am going to get more involved with 60's football soon enough.

Stone, Those Giffords are sweeeeet!!!

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Date Posted: Mar/12/2008 3:16 PM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

Thanx Paul.

Then in 1970, I became a Raider's fan.





Of course Flores went on to be the head coach for a stretch.

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Date Posted: Mar/12/2008 3:18 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Thanks for the pics guys! 2Deuces-very nice collection! Im jealous!! I am going to get more involved with 60's football soon enough.

Stone, Those Giffords are sweeeeet!!!
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Hopefully perk will have a nice PSA 7 52 Gifford to show us soon!

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Date Posted: Mar/12/2008 3:20 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Im searching HIGH and LOW Ryan!!

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Date Posted: Mar/13/2008 11:34 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Here is my modest collection of 1950 Bowman




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Date Posted: Mar/13/2008 11:48 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

That's a great looking Luckman

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Date Posted: Mar/14/2008 7:27 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Just picked this one up last night off the BAY! I have been looking for this one for awhile. Great card IMO..




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Date Posted: Mar/14/2008 1:01 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

nice job Perk!

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Date Posted: Mar/14/2008 1:11 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



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Date Posted: Mar/16/2008 3:03 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Not a card here but a GORGEOUS Photo! I stumbled across this while starting a little project- Im doing google searches on the players that I have in my collection and thought I would print out a biography and stats on these guys and put them into see through plastic covers in a binder, lot of fun and great to have to thumb through..

Thought I would share this great pic!








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Date Posted: Mar/16/2008 4:28 PM
Posted By: bigfische (Collector)



<< Thanx Paul.

Then in 1970, I became a Raider's fan.
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Stone, You like the braves also, right?

You are the only other person besides myself that has that combo of favorite teams.

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Date Posted: Mar/16/2008 5:13 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

My very first Auto purchase! ( Every bit of Stowns fault )




Have to add these cards in my FAVORITE thread!!!




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Date Posted: Apr/12/2008 2:59 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Finally found another Smaller White Whale!





And a few 52's I picked up this week as well.....

This Younger card is very very tough to get in 8 grade.. and nearly impossible to get it for the $190 I got it for!!!







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Date Posted: Apr/12/2008 3:41 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Perk...I have a few things to say to you...

1) Great Otto!
2) Simply Amazing Younger...that may be one of the nicest cards ever made...I love it..and now I must add one to my colection.
3) You are THE man! Got the Baugh today...What the heck was I thinking...how could I have been happy with the 52 small. This Large is AWESOME! I can't thank you enough!!!


Perk...I promise to give Sammy a good home!


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Date Posted: Apr/12/2008 3:45 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Im glad you like it Ryan! Im happy I was able to get you one of those, Im not knocking the smaller cards but you really cant beat the large version!

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Date Posted: Apr/12/2008 11:59 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

I told myself I would be making a 6,7 1955 Topps AA set and Have been doing just that. I prefer nice centering as opposed to offcenter higher grades. I just won a beautifuly centered PSA 8 Sid Luckman for well under SMR. I can't figure out why it did not get any auction action, but I sure am happy about it. Ill post pics when I recieve it. I plan on crossing my 55 set over to SGC holders.









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Date Posted: Apr/13/2008 6:27 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Gorgeous 55's BigRed! Although I pretty much stick with PSA 7 I agree with the centering 100%- I would much rather have nice centering than anything else..

Please post a pic of that Luckman when you get a chance, Im sure its a great looking card!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 11:11 AM
Posted By: fgoodwin (New Member)

No scan, but I have a '52 Bowman Large Tom Landry.

I don't know its formal PSA grade because I'm not a graded card collector, and I bought it a local card shop back in the early 80s, when you could still walk into shop and walk out with a find like that! I'm guessing its an EX (6?) but since I'm a Cowboy fan and not a speculator, I don't plan to part with it, regardless of its actual condition, and I don't need an upgrade either (certainly not at today's prices!).

Of all my Cowboys collection, this is my favorite card, even though technically, it predates the Cowboys.

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 12:02 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< No scan, but I have a '52 Bowman Large Tom Landry.

I don't know its formal PSA grade because I'm not a graded card collector, and I bought it a local card shop back in the early 80s, when you could still walk into shop and walk out with a find like that! I'm guessing its an EX (6?) but since I'm a Cowboy fan and not a speculator, I don't plan to part with it, regardless of its actual condition, and I don't need an upgrade either (certainly not at today's prices!).

Of all my Cowboys collection, this is my favorite card, even though technically, it predates the Cowboys.
>>




The 52 Bowman Landry is definately on my want list! You should post a pic of it. Here is the Landry Rookie card:



I think the face Landry is making in this card is the same face he made when Clark caught "the catch" from Montana. At least thats how I felt when I saw it happen!



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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 12:17 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Awesome Landry

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 3:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another Bowman Large for my collection!!! Thanks to Gabbs!!




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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 6:28 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Another great 52 Paul- I know that you have said no before, BUT have you consider building this set. i know you love it, and even the commons look awesome! I used to really like the 52 Large...but you have me hooked...i love em now!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 6:37 PM
Posted By: VitoCo1972 (Master Collector)

This is a really fun thread to look at. Anyone have any nice 57's to show (or maybe even sell)?

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 6:39 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Another great 52 Paul- I know that you have said no before, BUT have you consider building this set. i know you love it, and even the commons look awesome! I used to really like the 52 Large...but you have me hooked...i love em now! >>



Yea I am finding out I might have created a monster! Im not sure Im that pumped about you going after these cards!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously I would LOVE to build this set but in all honesty it would be taking on a HUGE project especially in PSA 7 grade that I prefer- that is not realistic because I dont have the funds to land all these cards in 7 grade, not to mention I dont think its possible! There are so many SP's and low pops of these cards that are not available, right now Im just plugging along and grabbing some nicely centered 7's when available, I might- repeat MIGHT someday settle and pick up some of the toughest ones as "fillers" like 1-4 grades if I ever get enough of the set completed to think this way. But for now Im just a junkie with the football and cant stay away from other gems that catch my eye- there are still a bunch of 51's that I want along with some 53's before I "stick" with just the 52's. Then again I would also like to grab a few Chicles and 48 Leafs some time- so all in all I got WAY to much on my plate to even consider going after this set in any grade.

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 6:41 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< This is a really fun thread to look at. Anyone have any nice 57's to show (or maybe even sell)? >>



Heres a few:









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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 6:53 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice 57's! Ok now there are more cards I need!!!!!!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 6:55 PM
Posted By: Bottom9th (Expert Collector)

I'm drooling over those 57s!!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 7:01 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice 57's! Ok now there are more cards I need!!!!!! >>




PAUL...................Sorry man! I didn't mean to tempt you like that.

but hey while we are at it, heres a few more....













and YES Paul....this is part of my evil plot to lure you away from the bowman!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 7:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

If we were to go back through this thread it would then be crystal clear as to why BigDaddyBowman has corrupted me with all these SWEEET Football cards and gotten me hooked!!!!!!!!!!!


MAN!!!!!!!!! I wasnt even thinking about the 57's until you started posting these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 7:09 PM
Posted By: gotsparks09 (Collector)



<< If we were to go back through this thread it would then be crystal clear as to why BigDaddyBowman has corrupted me with all these SWEEET Football cards and gotten me hooked!!!!!!!!!!!


MAN!!!!!!!!! I wasnt even thinking about the 57's until you started posting these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah BigD...It'd be nice if you'd let me finish my '51 set before tempting me with those as well. Nice cards!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 7:11 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

How about another few for Perk!
C'mon Perk.....start buying those 57's...I feel like i am a drug pusher LOL

remember this one Paul..








Hey Paul...arn't these beautiful 57's?..i really think you should start collecting them!



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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 7:16 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I knew that Groza would find a good home with you! And yes I will now be looking to add some 57's to my collection now

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2008 7:18 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< I knew that Groza would find a good home with you! And yes I will now be looking to add some 57's to my collection now >>






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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 6:16 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

My first ever Bowman football card. I blame this on you, Perkdog, and your pal BigDaddyBowman!


Can't wait to get it!





These could become habit forming!



Robert

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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 6:29 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice card Robert! Trust me its habit forming- BigDaddyBowman got me going, first it was an innocent one time purchase of a Baugh card now I am completely, helplessy hooked!

BTW- I amost pulled the trigger on that card- I thought it was Steve Van Buren! I will pick that one up eventually because it is a great looking shot! Enjoy and jump on board!

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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 7:26 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< My first ever Bowman football card. I blame this on you, Perkdog, and your pal BigDaddyBowman!


Can't wait to get it!





These could become habit forming!



Robert
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BAH!

My $20 snipe didn't trigger last night because of you.



Fantastic pickup but I'm still bitter...



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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 7:30 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Couldnt resist picking this beauty up this morning off the Bay!




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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 8:33 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

Sorry, Stown!

I'm usually the one who misses out!




Robert



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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 8:40 AM
Posted By: vtbub (Member)



<< Couldnt resist picking this beauty up this morning off the Bay!


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That is a beautiful piece of cardboard.



Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 10:22 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< How about another few for Perk!
C'mon Perk.....start buying those 57's...I feel like i am a drug pusher LOL

remember this one Paul..








Hey Paul...arn't these beautiful 57's?..i really think you should start collecting them!
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Is it just me or does it look like Artie Donovan is wearing the world's largest cup...great photo.

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Date Posted: Apr/18/2008 1:37 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Practically stole this Nagurski Dixie Lid off ebay last week. Pretty hard to find piece.


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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:01 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I get to scratch another off my list! Just a smaller fish in the pond but another one Ive been searching for some time now..




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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:48 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Here are a few of my favorite sets.

50 bowman, "every one like little works of art"




57 topps, this has always been one of my favs, ive been working on this set in psa 8 or better for almost 2 years



61 fleer. I just dig the photos, the team logo, all of it




56 topps presidents. Besides football, I collect presidential autographs. Ive always wanted to complete this set and instead of posting scans of the cards in the registry, I would post scans of the presidential autograph I have of each president




And in honor of my good buddy Perkdog, 52 bowman, small though, sorry Paul!




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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:50 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

JOE!!!! Thanks for the scans!!! I know BigDaddyBowman Ryan's mouth will be watering once he sees that Baugh and those high grade 57's


Thanks for posting!

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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:51 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

And the artwork on those President cards are really top shelf!

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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:52 PM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

Joe

The only word that comes to mind? Superb!

I especially like the Sammy card.

Thanx for sharing
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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:59 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Joe thanks for posting those beauties....those my friend are out of my league. I couldn't touch cards in those high grades. Outstanding to say the lest. I love the 61 Fleer Bednarik!


Are you guys trying to tease me ...what Baugh????? All I get is a little x on my screen. HMM. Where oh where o where is Sammy??? where could Sammy Be???

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Date Posted: Apr/20/2008 6:59 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Holy Schnikkeeess....now I see it....GREAT BAUGH!!!!!!!!!!




P.S. Congrats again on the Graham. Paul...great looking card...very undervalued IMO.

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Date Posted: Apr/21/2008 6:20 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Joe- those 57's are awesome. I also collect the 56 President set. I need your #1 card and Lincoln in PSA 8 to complete the set in 8 or better. Great cards.

P.S. Did you notice the subliminal request for the #1 President card?

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Date Posted: Apr/22/2008 1:51 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Joe- those 57's are awesome. I also collect the 56 President set. I need your #1 card and Lincoln in PSA 8 to complete the set in 8 or better. Great cards.

P.S. Did you notice the subliminal request for the #1 President card?
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Frank
the last few Lincoln psa 8's have gone for like $300 or so. I think its like a pop 10 or something like that. Crazy how rare some of these are.

I picked up the #1 pres card a month or so ago from a BBCE consignment for pretty cheap, I guess no one was looking, and i certainly didnt pop smoke on it

joe

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Date Posted: Apr/22/2008 1:55 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Joe, those President cards are really nice to look at. The artwork reminds me of some of the stuff that was in the history books back when I was in Elementary school, not to get sidetracked too much but I plan on adding a few to my collection. I actually grabbed this one the other day..




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Date Posted: Apr/22/2008 1:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ok enough of the Non-Sport suff

Lets see some more Football!!!!!!!!!

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Date Posted: Apr/22/2008 2:02 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

These I got in trade the other day from my good friend Ryan! Im not sure if the Waterfield will make the PSA crossover but I will give it a shot- either way I love the old Rams helmut in this card.






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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 6:26 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

Thanks to a suggestion from Perkdog, I decided to branch out my custom card creations to 1955 Bowman-style.





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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 6:43 AM
Posted By: SKINSFAN (Collector)

A FEW OF MY FAVORITE SKINS

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/50bowman139.jpg


http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/50OTTO.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project15.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project9.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project10.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project11.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project14.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/35BATTLES.jpg

AND last but just to show you some things are better when they are not vintage
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/2007-team-calendar-shot.jpg

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 2:25 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

AUPT-OUTSTANDING!!!!!


I think I just developed a man crush on that card! cool!!!

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 3:54 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< A FEW OF MY FAVORITE SKINS<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/50bowman139.jpg">

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/50bowman139.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/50OTTO.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/50OTTO.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project15.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project15.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project9.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project9.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project10.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project10.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project11.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project11.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project14.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/Project14.jpg</A>

<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/35BATTLES.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/35BATTLES.jpg</A>

AND last but just to show you some things are better when they are not vintage
<a href="http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/2007-team-calendar-shot.jpg">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/ranger_51/2007-team-calendar-shot.jpg</A>
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AWESOME cards Skins Fan!!! Funny thing if I could pick one it would be the "Non-Vintage" selections Love the cards! Thank You for sharing!!

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 3:55 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

LOVE the 1955 Graham design! Great work Bob!!!!!

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 4:04 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Art
You've got some nerve coming on here with those 50 bowmans knowing Im spinning my wheels trying to put that set together. (it also makes Big daddy bowman jealous)

Consider yourslef on double secret probabtion mister!!!

joe

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2008 6:24 PM
Posted By: SKINSFAN (Collector)

Double secret probation thanks Joe you just reminded me i am old enough to remember animal house lol

Will post some skins when i get a chance ,Always glad to post skins cards I collect them like Joe does Largents



Date Posted: Apr/25/2008 6:21 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Double secret probation thanks Joe you just reminded me i am old enough to remember animal house lol

Will post some skins when i get a chance ,Always glad to post skins cards I collect them like Joe does Largents
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Arty,
speaking of largents... sorry guys, this isnt quite vintage, but forever this 1980 topps#450 Largent card has been a pop 1 in psa 10 and nowhere to be found.

The other day I notice the pop hit two and Ive been scouring ebay waiting/ hoping to find it. Well as it turns out my good buddies at 4sc had gotten this one graded and I was able to pick it up for a good price. Very happy!!

Joe



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Date Posted: May/04/2008 5:33 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another "kinda tough" Bowman Large for my collection!




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Date Posted: May/04/2008 5:38 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

Very nice Tex ya got there.

Edited to add: 200!!

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 6:15 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

Not as vintage as Bowman, but I have been outbid on those lately, so I decided to get this:




Hopefully, I will have some Bowman to share soon.



Robert

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 9:56 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice hornung Robert! Eventually I will get into those 60's cards!

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 9:59 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Speaking of getting outbid Robert, I happened to "Accidently" out bid my good friend Ryan on this one...






Ryan knows Im kidding but watch him come on here and label me a "Rat Fink"

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 10:31 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Anybody have any D-Con?? I have a RAT to exterminate! Damn you Perk...Damn you to Hades!



P.S. I think the right border looks trimmed...don't you?

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 10:35 AM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

Gs40 - that's a stunning 7!

Very nice pickup - thanx for sharing
mike

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 10:57 AM
Posted By: recbball (Collector)




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Date Posted: May/10/2008 11:10 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

Thanks Perk and Mike.

I'm biddiing on a nice card on Ebay right now in mid-grade that I know you guys will approve of!

Hopefully, I'll win this time! BTW, those Bowman large are tough to beat for eye appeal. Sweet card!


Robert



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Date Posted: May/10/2008 11:16 AM
Posted By: tennesseebanker (Master Collector)

I've always thought these could probably be bumped up if I ever sent them in.















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Date Posted: May/10/2008 11:36 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice cards Tennessee! Thanks for the pics.

Im not sure if this is true or not but that 64 Philly card of Frank Ryan- I was told that the pink Caddy behind the photo was Jim Browns? A dealer told me that at a show, I know Jim Browns card has the same background.

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 11:38 AM
Posted By: tennesseebanker (Master Collector)

I have heard the same and have always believed it to be true as well, I bought the Ryan card more for the caddy than for him. Lol, I guess you could say I bought the Car not the holder on that one.

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 11:48 AM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Im not sure if this is true or not but that 64 Philly card of Frank Ryan- I was told that the pink Caddy behind the photo was Jim Browns?

It is true. Matter of fact all the Browns cards from that year have the Caddy in the background. Jim Brown was so proud of the car he wanted it in the background of his photo. As all the other players came out to see the card, they wanted to pose in front of it too. Classic story.

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 11:50 AM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

You've got some superb cards there TB!

I think I do see some 'bumps' there - but is it worth the trouble - unless you're gonna sell?

I always like the FB stuff since I really don't have much.

Thanx for sharing
mike



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Date Posted: May/10/2008 12:04 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I love this and the mail call thread!


Great cards everyone...well...everyone except Perk..he's a Rat Fink!

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 12:06 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice cards Tennessee! Thanks for the pics.

Im not sure if this is true or not but that 64 Philly card of Frank Ryan- I was told that the pink Caddy behind the photo was Jim Browns? A dealer told me that at a show, I know Jim Browns card has the same background.
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Date Posted: May/10/2008 1:48 PM
Posted By: Estil (Expert Collector)

I love those cars in the background, just like on that one 1973 Topps card (which that set in general has some quite interesting backgrounds).

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79 (PSA 8): Ozzie, Molitor, Brett



Date Posted: May/10/2008 4:19 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

some 48 leafs and bowmans im getting ready to send in on monday to PSA

The tommy thompson is pretty rare, a psa 7 of it is 1/1 right now, this one is a 7 (hopefully an 8).

The 48 bowman is Dan Sandifer, I think he's a future HOF'er and this card is gorgeous, hopefully an 8



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Date Posted: May/10/2008 5:01 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Good luck with those Joe, that Thompson would look great in an 8 holder!

Whatcha going to do with that Baugh? You already have an 8 right...

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 6:32 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Joe- The 48 Leafs look great. Good luck on those. The 48 Bowman though looks like a 6. The 2 left side corners are going to give you problems.

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 7:13 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Joe- The 48 Leafs look great. Good luck on those. The 48 Bowman though looks like a 6. The 2 left side corners are going to give you problems. >>



thanks for the input Frank, always much appreciated. Its funny, the bowman looks better in person, but that little ding on the lower left is definately my biggest concern.

Hopefully it gets graded at 4:59 PM on friday by the new guy, and slides into an 8 holder

joe

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Date Posted: May/10/2008 8:41 PM
Posted By: SKINSFAN (Collector)

Sandifer HMM Thanks Joe now your posting Redskins i need TOSS A DOG A Bone now and then will you



Date Posted: May/10/2008 9:31 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< some 48 leafs and bowmans im getting ready to send in on monday to PSA

The tommy thompson is pretty rare, a psa 7 of it is 1/1 right now, this one is a 7 (hopefully an 8).

The 48 bowman is Dan Sandifer, I think he's a future HOF'er and this card is gorgeous, hopefully an 8

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Regardless of where those Leafs grade, they will probably bring a premium with the great centering on them all. Any idea how much rarer the white letter versions are?

Snorto~



Date Posted: May/12/2008 7:32 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

A couple more 52's!




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Date Posted: May/12/2008 7:40 AM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

Very nice Pihos Paul, but no matter how nice the other card looks, no way am I saying nice Weiner.

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Date Posted: May/12/2008 7:41 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

And in case you guys are getting tired of me and my 52's I threw a nice '57 Tittle in there!



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Date Posted: May/12/2008 7:42 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Very nice Pihos Paul, but no matter how nice the other card looks, no way am I saying nice Weiner. >>




Thank you Nick and I couldnt agree more!

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Date Posted: May/12/2008 7:50 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Very nice Tittle, Perkdog...Love those '57s and those Tittles...



Date Posted: May/12/2008 8:05 AM
Posted By: jimq112 (Expert Collector)



<<

The 48 bowman is Dan Sandifer, I think he's a future HOF'er and this card is gorgeous, hopefully an 8



Snorto~
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I don't think Sandifer will get there, but he is a short print (#87 - divisible by 3) and a high grade sp is always a good thing! If he makes HOF it's a great thing!

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Date Posted: May/12/2008 12:57 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I am MAN enough to say it.....Paul, love your Weiner!

nice tittle too paul!






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Date Posted: May/12/2008 1:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



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Date Posted: May/12/2008 1:09 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

very cool cards!

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Date Posted: May/13/2008 5:49 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

Thanks to Paul for showcasing some of my custom card creations. Besides the Blanchard-Davis card, I've done a Glenn Davis single (Topps covered Doc Blanchard in its original 1955 set).

Now I want to do a card for Army quarterback Arnold Tucker, who's going into the College FB Hall of Fame this year.

Does anybody have a good picture of Tucker they could lend me? I'd need to borrow the picture or get a 300 dpi scan. In return I'd give the lender three of the cards once they are made (that's half of my ususual initial "print run"). If you have a picture you think would work, send me a PM. Thanks much.

Here's my latest creation, a Max McGee rookie card. I'm finishing up a 1955 Bowman-style Raymond Berry RC and will post it when done.



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Date Posted: May/13/2008 6:20 AM
Posted By: jimq112 (Expert Collector)

I love that max mcgee card - if you make a 2nd print run I would like to buy one!

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Date Posted: May/13/2008 12:25 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



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Date Posted: May/15/2008 1:08 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

A few new additions that arrived this week-



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Date Posted: May/15/2008 5:22 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Very nice paul....I am telling you I see a set being built. i know you won't openly admit it...but I see the writing on the wall!

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Date Posted: May/15/2008 6:36 PM
Posted By: Clemaz (Collector)

Man, I have to quit looking at these cards. I am already addicted to vintage baseball among other things. I don't need another addiction. Really great cards though.

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Date Posted: May/15/2008 6:42 PM
Posted By: tennesseebanker (Master Collector)

those 55 Bowman creations are awesome ! I am working on a 55 Bowman autographed set, so it is a year that is near to my heart. If you plan on making some hard copies of those 55's i would love to get some from you of living players to get signed.
Thanks for sharing.

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Date Posted: May/15/2008 7:28 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Some day I Hope to get Brady to sign those, I would love to get them in a slab labled authentic from PSA!!!


Ryan, now wouldnt be the time for me to try the 52 set anyways. Especially since your my #1 competitor now!!!! I love the Price card but Im steamed about the centering, it was ( as you know ) a private deal that almost got ugly- I will prolly NOT ever buy a card again without seeing a scan first-especially from the 52 set, centering is a freakin' nightmare with these cards. But I knew I was taking the chance, oh well still a good card.

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Date Posted: May/15/2008 7:41 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Perk...I am no competition for you...at least for the commons...which are the majority of the set i would think. The centering is not perfect on those cards, but it doesn't really detract from the eye appeal.

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Date Posted: May/15/2008 9:04 PM
Posted By: Stone193 (Choose Your Title)

Ryan

The 59T Tittle is superb for a 7! Very nice. He was a big name in my neighborhood when I was a kid.

Thanx
mike

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Date Posted: May/16/2008 12:10 AM
Posted By: VitoCo1972 (Master Collector)

Big fan of this thread. I'm 20% or so through this set on the registry, but these are a couple of my favorites from what I've gathered so far:



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Date Posted: May/16/2008 6:38 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Love the 57 topps Vito!! Nice cards man

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Date Posted: May/16/2008 3:29 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



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Date Posted: May/17/2008 11:31 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



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Date Posted: May/17/2008 12:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice stuff Ryan! Hopefully I will land a few more to post up soon!

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Date Posted: May/17/2008 5:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Well I figured I would post up a few of my 51's here, another great looking set!




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Date Posted: May/17/2008 5:37 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

As always..great stuff Paul!

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Date Posted: May/17/2008 6:38 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

I really like the artwork of the 53's. I just wish they'd made that enormous white football take up less than 25% of the card.

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Date Posted: May/17/2008 11:44 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Perk, is it true? You joined the ranks of the set collectors? No surprise there actually. I know some don't get why you would want to collect "commons" to complete a set, but it is about the history of the game... of which I know you are a fan of.



Now if you will excuse me, I have to go repeat "I will NOT start a 1957 Topps set!" 100 times thanks to Vito. Every time I see those they appeal to me more and more.



Snorto~



Date Posted: May/18/2008 7:04 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Hi Scott, even these "Commons" are great pick ups, I am addicted to these! There hasnt been much aggressive bidding on these lately as I have been putting in semi-low bids and winning below my high bid, so I cant resist! But my ultimate goal here is to eventually have as much variety as my good friend Ryan "The vintage football variety king" BigDaddy!

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Date Posted: May/19/2008 7:01 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

A couple more 52's!!! And Ryan here are a couple of nicknames for ya- Charlie "Choo Choo" Justice ( Very tough card BTW ) And "Deacon" Dan Towler!






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Date Posted: May/20/2008 6:20 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

My first 1956 Topps card!




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Date Posted: May/20/2008 6:53 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< But my ultimate goal here is to eventually have as much variety as my good friend Ryan "The vintage football variety king" BigDaddy! >>




Jeesh Perk...you'll be flying past me any day now! Nice pick-ups. Great Moore!

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Date Posted: Jun/06/2008 3:31 PM
Posted By: jimq112 (Expert Collector)



This is an advertising flyer for the 1962 Packers vs College All Stars game. The 1961 Heisman Trophy winner Ernie Davis was supposed to play in this game but was weak during practice and didn't feel right. He was diagnosed with Leukemia a couple days before the game.

What a backfield it would have been with Davis and Jim Brown next to each other

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Date Posted: Jun/06/2008 3:43 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That is a very cool item, Im glad you brought the thread back up!

I havnt anything new to add recently, sorta taking a break from buying for about a month to try and reavaluate the direction of my collecting- either do the 52 set or something else....

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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 9:44 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

It is a crime when this thread is buried on page 8! I figured I would post these beauties here too, and bring the thread back.







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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 1:11 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Sweet '51 Bowmans Bigdaddy. One of my favorite vintage sets.

Here's a couple of HOF'ers I own:



Love those 1950's Football cards.......

Rich



Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 2:05 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<<

Love those 1950's Football cards.......

Rich
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Ryan, Rich
Great looking cards. Love the vintage in the SGC holders man, absolutely love it!! SGC 88 is such a tough grade, is it a solid psa 8, could you get lucky and get it into a psa 9 holder?

I wish my scanner was working so I could post a few 51 B, sadly I will have to be a bystander on this thread for awhile.

joe

Edited to add: I agree with Ryan, this thread shold never be page 8!!

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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 3:57 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Rich

Hirsch and Matson cards are some of my favs...they always have the coolest poses. It looks like Matson's pinky is dislocated..doesn't it??


Joe,

I prefer SGC.. so no cross over for me. I just picked these two up last week...they are beauts! Not real familiar with what a 9 looks like..havn't owned very many because I only collect vintage.

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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 6:23 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Man NICE cards Ryan! When did you start on 8 grade!

Thanks for bringing THE thread back up!


Cardbender- Love the Hirsch card!

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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 6:25 PM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)

Just added this one to my HOF RC set. Now down to needing 5.
Still need
33 Thorpe
35 Nagurski
48 Bowman Turner
52 Bowman Matson
57 Starr.



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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 6:31 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Man NICE cards Ryan! When did you start on 8 grade!

Thanks for bringing THE thread back up!


Cardbender- Love the Hirsch card!
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thanks Perk! I normally don't venture into the land of 8's, but the price was right so I couldn't pass them up.

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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 7:06 PM
Posted By: rise2it (Member)


Man, I love this vintage football, too...thanks for everyone for posting, and keep this thread going!

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Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 9:50 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Another classic card, too bad it's not centered a little better. This card has always been a bear to find sharp.



Joe, get your scanner going. I'm sure everyone here wants to see your high grade 51's.

Thanks BigDaddy. Yeah, it does look like Matson has a finger injury on his card. I wonder why Hirsch doesn't have a '55 Bowman card?
By the way, you own some sweet Bowmans!

Dave, nice job on your HOF set. What a fantastic set.
C'mon guys lets get some Football cards posted here and keep er' going.......


Rich



Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 9:53 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

A later 1950's card but it's always been one of my favorites:

5'7" Eddie LeBaron








Date Posted: Jun/13/2008 9:59 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

My second favorite QB behind Bart Starr,

Christian Adolph Jurgensen lll






Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 8:07 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

Ryan, I bid on that Waterfield, but it was too rich for my beginner Bowman self! Great pick up! I think I will shoot for a 7.

Great cards, everyone. This is becoming my favorite thread.





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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 8:23 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



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Love those 1950's Football cards.......

Rich
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Ryan, Rich
Great looking cards. Love the vintage in the SGC holders man, absolutely love it!! SGC 88 is such a tough grade, is it a solid psa 8, could you get lucky and get it into a psa 9 holder?

I wish my scanner was working so I could post a few 51 B, sadly I will have to be a bystander on this thread for awhile.

joe

Ok Joe, You've used the broken scanner excuse long enough. Send me a few of those Largent RC 9's you have stacked to the ceiling and I will buy you a new scanner and have it shipped to your door. If you ask real nice I'll make a West Coast road trip and install it for you.

All kidding aside, I have a feeling you will a need a new scanner before the end of the year.

Great Bowmans. Man they really look sharp in those SGC holders. I'll dig up a few cards and keep this thread going. Joe

Edited to add: I agree with Ryan, this thread shold never be page 8!!
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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 8:30 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

The last two cards from my last spending spree came in today...




This would probably be a 7..but the dreaded wax stain on back that is so typical of 51's:


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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 9:05 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Nothing new, but some newer posters haven't seen these. A few cards from each set.



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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 9:06 AM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Is there anything better than the smell of vintage football in the morning?



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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 2:08 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Awesome cards guys! If I ever feel I have enough 1950's material I will then venture into the 60's stuff- the 66 set and 64 Topps look very inviting!

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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 3:19 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

2 Deuces....I love that 55 topps AA Bernard. It looks like he is doing the "African anteater dance!"

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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 4:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan! You owe a couple of scans!

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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 5:05 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Thanks BigDaddyBowman, I think the AA's are a classic set, but my arm pit collection can't hold a candle to the beauties you have posted. I never tire looking at your cards. Keep them coming and I'll add to this thread if it ever drops again. Joe

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Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Jun/14/2008 5:10 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I will re-post the card that I jump-started this thread with- My Graham card and ask if any of you think this has a chance at a bump?



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Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 2:10 PM
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Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 2:51 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

That's the best centered '52 Graham I've ever seen. WOW! Sweet card. If the corners hold up, I don't see why that's not maybe even an 8.

Nice cards Joe!

That goes without saying for bigdaddy, always sweet Bowmans to post here.

Nice cards guys. Great thread.



Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 3:22 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

I love posting these two cards. It shows that you can have a high grade collection without high grades.
To the naked eye these are some of the nicest 59's I have. Centering and corners are perfect. No there is no paper loss or writing on the back. The best bargains in the hobby.


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Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 3:23 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Double post and much needed bump.

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Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 6:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< I love posting these two cards. It shows that you can have a high grade collection without high grades.
To the naked eye these are some of the nicest 59's I have. Centering and corners are perfect. No there is no paper loss or writing on the back. The best bargains in the hobby.
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Wow! Thopse are some gorgeous cards- whats the deal?

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Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 7:47 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Ryan! You owe a couple of scans! >>




Here ya go Perk...fresh out of the mailbox:





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Date Posted: Jun/19/2008 8:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thank You Ryan! Those are nice, I told you I wasnt a huge Philly fan but ofcourse you are making me feel different about them



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Date Posted: Jun/21/2008 12:39 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Nice Philys!!

Here's some more 1950's:









Sorry if the scans are too large. Sometimes it's hard to judge how they'll turn out.

Rich



Date Posted: Jun/24/2008 8:37 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

I picked up the "parts" to create a Johnny Unitas 1955 Bowman RC at SporsFest, but couldn't decide whether to go with the horizontal or vertical format . . . so I made both.






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Date Posted: Jun/24/2008 9:33 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Wow Bob, outstanding work! UNBELIEVABLE STUFF! Im a huge fan of horizontal cards but the stand up pic of Johnny U is too just to nice!

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Date Posted: Jun/26/2008 4:33 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Very Cool Unitas!
Great 54's and 55's too!

Nice mail day today...













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Date Posted: Jun/27/2008 7:52 AM
Posted By: DawgsGoneWild (Member)

Does a high quality manufacturer produce college football cards anymore?



Date Posted: Jun/27/2008 9:22 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

Ryan, that Bednarik is off the charts! WOW!

What collections you and Perk have. Thanks to you both for sharing your cards and knowledge with us.



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Date Posted: Jun/29/2008 7:02 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Been searching for this one for awhile and won it off the Bay for short money!




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Date Posted: Jun/29/2008 7:13 PM
Posted By: lawnmowerman (Catch 22)

Cool card Paul! Congrats

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Date Posted: Jun/30/2008 10:24 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

2nd day in a row I was able to find a card I have been searching for!

This one just got put on Mikes ( Nearmint ) websight and I scooped it up!

I just love these old Los Angeles Rams players..




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Date Posted: Jun/30/2008 1:34 PM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

Paul, that card was always one of my favorite Bowman's. In that photo Fears is a dead ringer for my Dad. I never saw the likeness in any other photo of Fears, but it wasa spot-on dopelganger on that card.

OT, but back when we were putting on the Milwaukee '85 card show, with Joe Adkock (sp, I know, the stupid "system won't let me spell it correctly) was a guest signer, we were sweating bullets because Joe was late in arriving from his home in Louisiana. My back-up plan was to have Dad sit in for him . . . they were about the same age, same build and reasonable likeness, and Adkock hadn't been back to Milwaukee for years. Dad probably knew enough about baseball and the Braves to bluff his way through any questions that arose during the signing. Thankfully Adkock arrived and we were able to satisfy a lot of happy collectors.

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Date Posted: Jun/30/2008 2:09 PM
Posted By: 11235813 (Veteran)

Here are some 1957's I picked up a while back for $10 total....





Date Posted: Jun/30/2008 2:23 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Wow $10 for all those? Nice group of cards, nice player selection!

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Date Posted: Jun/30/2008 9:50 PM
Posted By: 11235813 (Veteran)

I bought these as a poorly advertised lot on Ebay.

The seller just listed it as "Lot of (6) 1957 Topps FB cards" without putting the names of any of the players in the title, so nobody bothered to look at it. I was looking for the Bobby Layne card and got the whole lot for the opening bid of $9.99.





Date Posted: Jul/01/2008 6:58 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< I bought these as a poorly advertised lot on Ebay.

The seller just listed it as "Lot of (6) 1957 Topps FB cards" without putting the names of any of the players in the title, so nobody bothered to look at it. I was looking for the Bobby Layne card and got the whole lot for the opening bid of $9.99.
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Great pickup man, Im about 90% through that 57 topps set, one of my favorites!!

I finally got my scanner up and running (well my wife did, who's alot smarter than I am) so I am happy to be able to participate in Pauls vintage football thread again

Here are a couple of key pickups for my 78 fb set, and a big pickup, the Pat Harber "Harder" rookie card. Front shows Harber, back says Pat Harder. Love them leafs



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Date Posted: Jul/01/2008 7:36 PM
Posted By: goraiders (Collector)

great harber,harder.However they spelled it,i say great pickup.Thats one great looking 48!congrats.

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Date Posted: Jul/02/2008 6:20 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

One of my favorite 1950 Bowman cards!



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Date Posted: Jul/03/2008 7:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Great looking pic I found on the net checking out Rams Football in the 50's, Elroy "Crazy legs" Hirsch in a night game with the white ball..



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Date Posted: Jul/07/2008 8:19 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

My July 4 weekend project . . .






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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 2:49 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another Los Angeles Ram card!




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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 2:55 PM
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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 2:59 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

Nice fears, but that banner was like a punch in the face.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 4:41 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Sorry Nick! I tried to copy a pretty cool article on the early 50's Rams- I guess I didnt get all of it or maybe the wrong part!

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 4:46 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

It's cool, but I just meant that it's so big its like BAM.

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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 4:48 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Here's the little blog I thought was pretty cool.


Los Angeles Rams' storied Bull Elephant Backfield of Dick Hoerner, Paul (Tank) Younger and Dan (Deacon) Towler.

Together with quarterbacks Bob Waterfield and Norm Van Brocklin, the Elephants amassed 5,506 total yards, a team single season record which has stood for many years.

Towler registered the most impressive statistics of the Bulls. In six seasons (1950-55), he picked up 3,493 yards and posted an average gain of 5.2 yards per carry.

"The idea tor the bull elephants," Dan recalled, "came during the 1950 season. We were playing a game in a sea of mud, and the coaches alternated backfields hoping to rest us.

The coach then realized he had three fullbacks of equal running ability and saw what a powerful weapon he would have with two 200 pounders leading a third.

"The next season, all of us were used together in rushing situations, as the year progressed, we were used as a unit more and more. We won the title that year, and I feel the `51 Rams was one of the greatest teams ever."

Deacon Dan is still remembered in Western Pennsylvania. As a Donora High School star, he led his team to two championships. As a senior, he scored 24 touchdowns.

An excellent student, Towler graduated cum laude from Washington and Jefferson where he also earned Little All-America honors.

In 1948, he led the nation in scoring. Surprisingly, the Rams made him only a twenty-fifth round draft choice in 1950.

Towler led all NFL ball carriers in 1952 with 894 yards. He also played in his first Pro Bowl contest that year, earning MVP honors.

A deeply religious man, Dan as a rookie asked to lead his Ram teammates in pre-game prayer. He studied at the Southern Cal Graduate School of Religion while playing, later receiving his masters degree in theology.

After retiring from pro football, he went on to serve as director of the Wesley Foundation and minister to the campus of the California State University.

In that capacity, he was in charge of campus religious programs and did liaison work between the school and the community.

A devastating runner as a Ram, the Rev. Mr. Towler channeled his boundless energy into improving the community where he once starred. "My football career," he said, "helped in many ways."

For one thing, it helped him establish rapport with students whom he counseled. For another, it taught him a priceless lesson.

"I learned not to give up in a tough situation," Deacon Dan Towler said. "Often you need only to make a first down, not a touchdown


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Date Posted: Jul/09/2008 7:22 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

speaking of 50 bowmans, I just got a few!! Grinding away on that 50 bowman set slowly but surely



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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 6:53 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Finally found a new Groza, I was forced to trade my last one to Mike T. to salt away my deal for the Gifford card and it was worth the wait!

Last day of my vacation today so I figured I would post some of my vacation pick-ups




A tough lower POP 7 here..








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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 6:58 AM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

Very nice pickups. Just admit it, you're doing the whole set.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 7:07 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thanks Nick, Im only about 20% on this thing so Ive got a long way to go. Im looking for some of the really tough low-pop cards right now and dont really care about the grade its just the centering is god awful on a lot of them that they dont present well enough for me to even want them. I wont mind some decent centered 3's and 4's as I couldnt care less about where I stack up on the registry but I want to be happy with the cards at least so lets just say its a possible work in progress..

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 7:20 AM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Perkdog- Those Bowman Large are sweet. Very Nice. Just give in and do the set. Your mindset is right in your willingness to accept lower graded cards with good eye appeal. Just build the set and you won't regret it.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 8:46 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great pick-ups Perk! 52 large are awesome.

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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 11:10 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Just got back last night from a 2 week family road trip from Cleveland to Tampa/Disney. Boy am I glad to back home! Vacations are for the kids now..not much Rand R for the adults!

A few 48 Bowman for my set that were waiting for me when I got home:





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Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 11:19 AM
Posted By: mickeymantle24 (Expert Collector)



<< My July 4 weekend project . . .



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That Unitas is amazing!



Date Posted: Jul/12/2008 11:46 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Mike I would reccomend you PM'ing Bob ( Aupt ) about these custom cards- he has a huge selection to chose from and he is truly a great guy to deal with. These Ive posted before but incase you missed them these are some that I bought from him..




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Date Posted: Jul/13/2008 5:30 PM
Posted By: TJMAC (Veteran)

Those custom cards are great. I really like the Staubach! Perk, good luck on the 52 Bowman Set it is a tough one.



Date Posted: Jul/15/2008 4:16 AM
Posted By: rise2it (Member)

Thanks for the pics, guys...I love vintage football, also.

It was so much easier to see the player's faces in the 40's and 50's without those silly facemasks in the way. :-)

Looking back, I'm surprised any of them had teeth when they smiled.



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Date Posted: Jul/23/2008 10:31 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Anyone have any new stuff! Also Mile High co. just entered the #3 finest 52 Large set that is incredible, Im curious where this collection came from and if it is going to be listed in there next auction- it should get some astronomical money.

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Date Posted: Jul/24/2008 6:59 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

A couple more well centered 7's!




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Date Posted: Jul/26/2008 8:15 AM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Keep going perkdog. You're building a VERY nice set!

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Date Posted: Jul/26/2008 8:01 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)



<< speaking of 50 bowmans, I just got a few!! Grinding away on that 50 bowman set slowly but surely

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Sweet '50 Bowmans Joe. They both look very high-end.

Keep the centered 7's rolling Perkdog. Very sharp cards!

I love that color or colorized Hirsch game action shot. It's stunning. I saved it on my computer to use as a screen saver. You don't often see early 1950's Football game action stills in color.

Rich



Date Posted: Jul/28/2008 6:35 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Keep going perkdog. You're building a VERY nice set! >>



Thanks Frank! Im hoping I set my snipe high enough for a very nice Elroy Hirsch PSA 7 on the Bay- a few more days to go on it and I suspect it will get some serious last minute action so keep your fingers crossed for me!

Rich I did the same thing with that Hirsch photo, its really a great looking photo Im glad I found it.

Here is a pretty cool 51 I picked up to break it up a little bit.



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Date Posted: Jul/28/2008 8:49 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Perk..nice Rote!



Thanks to Envoy...picked this up off of ebay from him



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Date Posted: Jul/28/2008 10:12 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Those 50,51,52 Bowman sets are incredible!! thanx to all for sharing the scans

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Date Posted: Jul/28/2008 10:13 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Great thread, everyone -- I really enjoy seeing all of the cards. I haven't made much progress on my football sets this summer, but it's nice to see great stuff like this!

Doug



Date Posted: Jul/29/2008 8:24 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Just came in the mail the other day, Night-Train Lane RC for my hof set




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Date Posted: Jul/30/2008 6:15 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Just came in the mail the other day, Night-Train Lane RC for my hof set


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Mark was that an Ebay purchase? I just sold that on the bay the other day- my Ebay handle is '101paulp" I decided to sell that and a few other ones I really didnt need along with the rest of my BB- Im sticking with 50-55 Bowman and 56 Topps.

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Date Posted: Jul/30/2008 6:25 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Anyone have any new stuff! Also Mile High co. just entered the #3 finest 52 Large set that is incredible, Im curious where this collection came from and if it is going to be listed in there next auction- it should get some astronomical money. >>




BTW, I talked to registry friend of mine and he is thinking of buying this set and combining it with his already completed set and taking over the #1 spot on the registry. Im curious if one of the heavy hitters with step up and go after this as well, some of the cards in this set look to be like a once in a lifetime chance to get.

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Date Posted: Jul/31/2008 9:25 AM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)



<< Mark was that an Ebay purchase? I just sold that on the bay the other day- my Ebay handle is '101paulp" I decided to sell that and a few other ones I really didnt need along with the rest of my BB- Im sticking with 50-55 Bowman and 56 Topps. >>



Perkdog I purchased this one right before your card came up for auction. I just looked at the auction you had for your's, that was a very nice 7 too, I woulda saved alittle picking up your card. My max snipe was set for $14.00 or so over vcp average for this one cause I liked it alot.

I have to say that the vintage Bowmans are my favorite looking sets, I can see why you have focused on collecting them alot lately.

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Date Posted: Jul/31/2008 9:35 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

I saw a PSA 8.5 Bobby Layne rookie at a show this weekend. Would have loved to grab it but could not justify the $1500+ the guy wanted for it.

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Date Posted: Aug/02/2008 10:37 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Well I was able to grab this one for my set- "Glue Fingers Lavelli" a nice HOF for my collection- it doesnt take away all the sting from missing out on that Hirsch but its a step in the right direction!




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Date Posted: Aug/06/2008 6:40 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



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Date Posted: Aug/06/2008 6:46 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Since football practices have started, I have been AWOL for a while. This came today, so I figured I would return to the boards.



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Date Posted: Aug/06/2008 6:47 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice to see you Ryan! That Layne looks identical to the PSA 7 you traded me awhile back- the SGC holder looks very nice though!

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Date Posted: Aug/06/2008 8:53 PM
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Date Posted: Aug/06/2008 9:55 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice to see you Ryan! That Layne looks identical to the PSA 7 you traded me awhile back- the SGC holder looks very nice though! >>





This is about the 4th graded 53 Bowman Layne I have owned...always looking to upgrade condition...still searching for one that makes me "totally" happy.

Great 52's by the way... you are going to build one killer set!

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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 6:04 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< Since football practices have started, I have been AWOL for a while. This came today, so I figured I would return to the boards.

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absolute beauty on the Layne!

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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 8:56 AM
Posted By: shouldabeena10 (Collector)

Great cards guys! This has been one of my favorite threads to view for a while now.
Although, I think it's time for a little oddball card spice! After all .... Man can not live on mainstream graded cards alone! I hope you enjoy the pics!

One of my favorite sets, the 1948-52 Exhibits (W-468). I'm hoping someday PSA will decide to start grading the football exhibit cards again. They continue to grade the baseball Exhibit card issues, but for some strange reason they don't like us football guys:




As a wise man once said, "Only square people ... Don't collect round cards!" ;-)
1965 Coke Caps All-Stars NFL and 1962-63 Salada Coins



The entire print is a little too large for my scanner, but here's the best part of it: 1967-73 Equitable Life Sports HOF print of the great Bronko Nagurski


Here's an all leather postcard I thought was kind of neat. It's from a Miss Adele Wagner, of Russell Gulch, Colorado ... wishing her friend "Birdie" a Happy 1907 New year. She mailed it out on New Years Eve, Dec 31st 1906:


The new mini-helmets they make nowadays are extremely detailed, but I kinda like the old school ones better from the 60's and 70's. You don't see these three team emblems used very often:


Another really tuff set to try and build in high grade condition. 1951 Topps Magic:


1934 Goudey Sports Kings Varsity Football Game cards:



Another issue that PSA hasn't started grading yet. 1940 Kellogg's Canadian:


1935 Wheaties All Americans of 1934:


These are from a 1981 TCMA Greats set, but I really like the vintage photo look they have. Here's Bobby Lane and Roger Staubach:






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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 12:42 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Mike! This is some great stuff, thanks for posting this stuff!

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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 12:48 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

Mike,

great stuff.

I bought that 81 TCMA set back in 82. Been selling the singles on eBay. It has amazing photography.

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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 12:56 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

This thread is a great tribute to the history of the sport! I can't get enough of all the great collections posted.

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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 2:02 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<<

<< Nice to see you Ryan! That Layne looks identical to the PSA 7 you traded me awhile back- the SGC holder looks very nice though! >>





This is about the 4th graded 53 Bowman Layne I have owned...always looking to upgrade condition...still searching for one that makes me "totally" happy.
>>



The thing that makes it identical is it has that same minor tilt look to it- did the other ones have that too? Either way its a very nice card.

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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 5:50 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Speaking of "Odd Ball" stuff, I found this while scanning the Bay- cant say I have ever seen one of these before!






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Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 8:37 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Fantastic stuff, Mike -- thanks for the post. The choo-choo exhibit is great! Well, it's all great, and the round stuff makes me want to convert from being such a square...

Doug



Date Posted: Aug/07/2008 10:49 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)





Some recent additions I added to the hof set.


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Date Posted: Aug/08/2008 8:36 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

Well thanks to Perk and a few others input I went with the decision to add this, my new favorite card.

1957 Topps Johnny Unitas Rookie PSA 7



sorry for the cruddy scan as my scanner is old and has smudges all over it.

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Date Posted: Aug/08/2008 8:51 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very Nice Mike! I think you made a great decision- always nice to see someone land a card that they have wanted for awhile!

Congrats on getting a very nice copy!

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Date Posted: Aug/08/2008 11:44 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great Unitas's guys..love the Grange too. Here is my most recent pick-up:



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Date Posted: Aug/10/2008 11:23 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Figured I would change it up a tiny bit- always liked this card..




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Date Posted: Aug/10/2008 12:07 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Great Giff Ryan, very nicely centered. Man the vintage looks great in an SGC holder! What do they call that pose again, that heisman leg in air arm extended thing. I saw Madden on MNF once do that pose and name it, cant remember. He was winded after doing it

Great looking Johnny U, 57 topps is one of my favorite sets. I have alot of favorite sets now that I think about it

Lovin this thread ladies!!

joe

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Date Posted: Aug/10/2008 4:57 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Great stuff guys.

Mike (Couldabeena10), great odd ball stuff. Those FB exhibits are great. First time I've ever seen the Canadien Kelloggs issue too. Those '60's helmets are great too with the old logo's.

Here's a few old guys:

Zeke RC



Two King's are better than one.



Here's a good example of a '56 vending card on the left, and a wax pack card on the right. The vending card has a duller, matte like surface. The card from the wax pack has a glossy front, more vibrant colors.



Rich




Date Posted: Aug/10/2008 5:41 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)



<< Here's a good example of a '56 vending card on the left, and a wax pack card on the right. The vending card has a duller, matte like surface. The card from the wax pack has a glossy front, more vibrant colors. >>



That's a nice bit of trivia, Rich. Did you discover that yourself, or is it well-known and I'm just in the dark again? Is it the case with all 1956 Topps cards from vending and from wax packs?

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Date Posted: Aug/11/2008 6:58 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Mike, nice to see you stop by. BTW, I need to recalculate the #'s..

Ebay 65%
Nearmintsportscards 35%

These #'s are subject to change though-just about every time I vist your sight.

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Date Posted: Aug/11/2008 7:09 AM
Posted By: Tvac897 (Collector)

Gotta love the oldschool uniforms...

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Date Posted: Aug/11/2008 7:16 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Gotta love the oldschool uniforms... >>




Gotta love the oldschool cards!

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Date Posted: Aug/17/2008 8:41 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

My lates pickups...




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Date Posted: Aug/20/2008 4:55 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

2 more 69s for the set build, puts me at just over 93%

Got these from carew4me, it also completes my 69 Packers set all in 8



with what I have incoming I am down to 16 cards to finish the set. I only have one card to upgrade a George Blanda that is PSA 7. All I have to do now is find the cards and be able to fund all the purchases once I do.

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Date Posted: Aug/20/2008 6:17 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice job Mike! Looks like you are heading into the home stretch with your set!




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Date Posted: Aug/22/2008 10:39 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another one for the collection! Joe the "Jet" Perry!




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Date Posted: Aug/22/2008 11:27 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< Another one for the collection! Joe the "Jet" Perry!


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now that is a truly great card!!

Congrats!

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Date Posted: Aug/23/2008 10:02 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Another one for the collection! Joe the "Jet" Perry!


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That Perry is Ridiculous! Ridiculous in the most fantastic way of course! WOW! Glad you finally pulled the trigger on it Paul. I have been so busy that I havnt been on the board in weeks.....came back today and saw this...awesome!

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Date Posted: Aug/23/2008 4:08 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

another lot of 69s in this weekend.

Finished the first series set with this card:



the other 4 were all low pop hi #s highlighted by recent HOF inductee Gene Hickerson, and leader of the Defense on the Super Bowl III winners Gerry Philbin, the Shivers is a really tough card to find, and usually causes a bidding war on eBay when it pops up, but I was able to get it in a lot here for what I consider a very fair price





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Date Posted: Aug/23/2008 4:29 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Mike those are some great looking cards! I have said it before- the Old School logos are awesome, I like the colored backrounds as well.

You are really coming along with that set, after you finish whats next?

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Date Posted: Aug/23/2008 4:32 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< Mike those are some great looking cards! I have said it before- the Old School logos are awesome, I like the colored backrounds as well.

You are really coming along with that set, after you finish whats next?
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I have a couple of other sets on the radar, but I will mainly be picking up some rookies (LSU guys from the 50s, 60s and 70s) and some HOF guys, plus a few player sets I have already started. I might get bold and work on 60 Fleer Football.

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Date Posted: Aug/25/2008 7:18 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another pick up that I have been searching for- there is only 144 cards in this set but unfortunately for me 100 of them seem to be my favorites!




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Date Posted: Aug/25/2008 8:13 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< Another pick up that I have been searching for- there is only 144 cards in this set but unfortunately for me 100 of them seem to be my favorites!


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he was the reason they did not put names on the back of jerseys back then.

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Date Posted: Aug/26/2008 5:40 AM
Posted By: shouldabeena10 (Collector)

Great cards guys! Here's a little more vintage football spice for everyone! Can you name and date all of the following issues? Some are easy .... a couple may stump you.










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Date Posted: Aug/26/2008 5:56 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

Mike the Earl Gros card is awesome! I am looking for a high grade 62 Topps of him as well, nice 52 Wheaties as well!

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Date Posted: Aug/27/2008 3:23 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

a little old Chinese Bandits Mailday. (LSU Tiger)

1960 Fleer Mel Branch Rookie



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Date Posted: Aug/28/2008 9:23 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Great video here of a 1959 Topps Football Cello pack bust

Oh how I would love to have this pack! I just started building a raw 59' set as a side gig to building my hof rookie set.

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Date Posted: Aug/29/2008 9:28 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

Another LSU Tiger

Star of the 1965 Sugar Bowl Victory vs Syracuse

LSU Color Commentator on the radio for the last quarter century +

His only card



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Date Posted: Aug/30/2008 8:45 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

We simply cannot have this thread buried on this forum...lets bring it back to daylight!

Just hit 50% on this set..not too bad in about 8 months. A few recent addiitions:



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Date Posted: Aug/31/2008 1:47 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice to see ya posting Ryan! I know you have been busy but congrats on hitting 50% on the 48 set!

Great looking cards

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Date Posted: Aug/31/2008 2:26 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< We simply cannot have this thread buried on this forum...lets bring it back to daylight!
Just hit 50% on this set..not too bad in about 8 months. A few recent addiitions:
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Congrats, Ryan! All the vintage graded sets I am working on have slowed to an absolute crawl with none of them higher than 60% complete and I decided to go with PSA because there are simply more graded examples out there. With you deciding on SGC for your 1948 Bowman set, hitting 50% in less than a year is even more impressive! They do look awesome in those dark holders. How many have you had graded, be they cross-overs or just submitted raw?

Snorto~



Date Posted: Aug/31/2008 2:34 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< Great cards guys! Here's a little more vintage football spice for everyone! Can you name and date all of the following issues? Some are easy .... a couple may stump you. >>



Well crud, I hit quote to submit my guesses, but the JPG names told all...

I knew the Kerger, Wheaties, Bowmans (of course), and Kelloggs. I have never seen the Maroons, KDKA Steelers, or the team Stancraft packs though. The one I was really curious about was the Graham and Namath "unknowns"... nice cards and I wanted to take a look at the checklist to see if it is a set I might keep in mind for the future. If anyone has any info on these, please share it.

Cool stuff, as always, Mike.

Snorto~



Date Posted: Aug/31/2008 3:07 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Thanks guys! Deciding to build in SGC was my preferred choice...but it has made it much more challenging. Which is a GOOD thing! I would be broke if I didn't. Whenever a SGC example that I need comes up on ebay...which isn't often...I tend to bid very aggressively. This has caused me to overpay in some cases, but I have underpaid many times as well. Of the 54 cards that I have..all are graded...50 SGC and 4 PSA. Actually I am waiting for 3 more SGC graded ones to arrive..so its 57 cards, 53 are SGC. Most have been bought already holdered in SGC slabs. Before deciding to build the set, I had most of the major cards already in either PSA or SGC. I crossed about 10 PSA's over. I try to resist the urge to buy the PSA to avoid the crossover fees...but every now and then, I pick one up if it is a low pop card or if the price is right. All in all, of the 57....only crossed or have to cross about 15 cards.

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Date Posted: Sep/01/2008 5:35 AM
Posted By: shouldabeena10 (Collector)



<< Well crud, I hit quote to submit my guesses, but the JPG names told all...

I knew the Kerger, Wheaties, Bowmans (of course), and Kelloggs. I have never seen the Maroons, KDKA Steelers, or the team Stancraft packs though. The one I was really curious about was the Graham and Namath "unknowns"... nice cards and I wanted to take a look at the checklist to see if it is a set I might keep in mind for the future. If anyone has any info on these, please share it.

Cool stuff, as always, Mike.

Snorto~
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Hey, no fair peeking at my jpg scan names!

I figured the 1938 Kerger's Varsitee cards set might be one of the stumpers, as I haven't seen them come up for sale in quite a while. BTW, if anyone has any singles of them ... I'd love to see some scans of the card fronts. My deck is still sealed, and I've only seen a couple of the individual card fronts.

The red and white "Pottsville Maroons" set you asked about was printed in 1977 by the estate of Joseph C. Zacko, Sr. in Pottsville, PA. It's a neat little 18 card tribute set that's dedicated to the NFL Pottsville Maroons team that unjustly had the 1925 Championship game stolen from them by an unfair league ruling. If anyone's not familiar with the controversy, here's the basic story (cut, pasted, and condensed from several locations) ......

"For 82 years the town of Pottsville, PA has been fighting a David and Goliath battle with the NFL to get its title back. The Journal of Sports History has called the controversy --- "one of the greatest injustices in NFL history." In 1925, Pottsville, PA, a small coal-mining town 90 miles northwest of Philadelphia, did the unthinkable and dominated the NFL in its inaugural season. At the time the Philadelphia Inquirer called the Maroons "The Perfect Football Machine."

On Dec. 6, 1925, the Pottsville Maroons (9-2 record) beat the Chicago Cardinals (9-1-1 record) at Comiskey Park by a score of 21-7, in what was supposed to be the NFL championship game.

At the time, the NFL was struggling to get off the ground, and college football was king. The Saturday after their Championship win the Pottsville Maroons played the Notre Dame All Stars (featuring the famed Four Horsemen) in a "Pro's -vs- College" exhibition game in Philadelphia. Experts believed the fledgling NFL was still decades away from competing with college football. But on a last-second field goal the Maroons helped legitimize the NFL by beating Notre Dame 9-7.

The Frankford Yellow Jackets, the team that would later become the Eagles, protested to the NFL saying the Maroons were violating their "territory." (The Maroons had beaten the Yellow Jackets, 49-0, to earn the right to play Notre Dame at Shibe Park.) Although no territory rule was ever produced and the Maroons had affidavits from men who witnessed the phone conversation in which the Maroons' owner was granted permission to play the game from the league, the NFL upheld the protest and suspended the Maroons, stripping them of their Championship title.

After the forfeiture of Pottsville's championship game, the current NFL Director (Joe Carr), ordered the Chicago Cards to schedule two extra games to decide the Championship ... which they did, against weak and already half disbanded teams. Both extra games were farcical with Chicago being an easy winner, finishing the season with an 11-2-1 record, and afterwards being referred too as the 1925 League Champions."

It's an interesting slice of early NFL history and there's a ton of websites about it. There's even an on going "on-line petition" that's still trying to persuade the NFL to overturn the old ruling, give the Pottsville Maroons back their 1925 title and consider a couple of their player's for enshrinement in the HOF. There's a couple of books out on the subject (David Fleming's; "Breaker Boys: The NFL's Greatest Team and the Stolen 1925 Championship" (ESPN Books). I haven't read it yet, but it's on my short list of books to read.

Mike








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Date Posted: Sep/01/2008 5:59 AM
Posted By: shouldabeena10 (Collector)



<< The one I was really curious about was the Graham and Namath "unknowns"... nice cards and I wanted to take a look at the checklist to see if it is a set I might keep in mind for the future. If anyone has any info on these, please share it.

Snorto~
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To answer your other question ... that set is known as the "1989 TV-4 NFL Quarterbacks". (I just had it marked as unknown because I couldn't remember the year/info when I was naming the scan). It's a 20 card set that was distributed by a London, England TV station (Channel 4) to help promote the NFL back when we started playing pre-season games over there. It has 20 of the greatest QB's to ever play the game, and the drawings are by an artist named J. C. Ford. It's a very inexpensive set, and you can usually find the singles listed for under $5. I personally think it's a great looking little set. The checklist consists of:

1) Dutch Clark
2) Sammy Baugh
3) Bob Waterfield
4) Sid Luckman
5) Otto Graham
6) Bobby Layne
7) Norm Van Broklin
8) George Blanda
9) Y.A. Tittle
10) Johhny Unitas
11) Bart Starr
12) Sonny Jurgensen
13) Joe Namath
14) Fran Tarkenton
15) Roger Staubach
16) Terry Bradshaw
17) Dan Fouts
18) Joe Montana
19) John Elway
20) Dan Marino

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Date Posted: Sep/02/2008 11:01 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

6 more 69s came in today.





Now down to 10 cards to complete the set!


Also got a few LSU Rookies in

A card from the best set that Topps Ever Produced

1962 Topps Roy Winston PSA 7 Rookie



Plus a couple of 1955 Bowman

Ray Collins Rookie



and one of the Greatest Tigers Ever

1955 Bowman Kenny Konz Rookie!



Now I just have to find the other 10 69s.


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Date Posted: Sep/03/2008 8:33 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Great cards, guys...I'm a little late to the Vintage FB post. Better late than never, I guess. Here are some cards from my all-time favorite FB set:





Date Posted: Sep/03/2008 9:33 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Those are BEAUTIFUL 50's!!

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Date Posted: Sep/04/2008 7:42 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Thanks for the compliment! Here's a toughie from that set:





Date Posted: Sep/05/2008 1:00 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

A couple for the set:




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Date Posted: Sep/05/2008 2:43 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very nice cards guys! I especially like those 1950 Bowmans, I am taking a little break once again from a few major spending sprees!

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Date Posted: Sep/05/2008 2:46 PM
Posted By: lawnmowerman (Catch 22)



<< I am taking a little break once again from a few major spending sprees! >>



Just use a credit card Paul. It's free! No money needed




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Date Posted: Sep/05/2008 2:52 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)




Oh Hi MATT

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Date Posted: Sep/07/2008 5:56 PM
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Date Posted: Sep/07/2008 6:31 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Rex, Thats a great looking set you are putting together there.

Gosteelers, Awesome cards. Congrads on a beautiful set. Joe

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Date Posted: Sep/08/2008 5:48 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Second year card, short print, NFL HOF'er, Packers' great.





Date Posted: Sep/08/2008 6:42 AM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)

My most recent vintage pick-up. (Just in case you missed it in the HOF RC thread)



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Date Posted: Sep/08/2008 4:54 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice job on the BRONK! That is a sweeet card, congratulations on landing it. After you finish the set whats next?

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Date Posted: Sep/08/2008 7:47 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Awesome Nagurski!


Another addition for the set..its alot more fun after reaching 50% and being able to count down now!


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Date Posted: Sep/09/2008 9:45 AM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)



<< Nice job on the BRONK! That is a sweeet card, congratulations on landing it. After you finish the set whats next? >>



Next?? Havn't really thought of that. I am in the process of looking for/buying a new house. So probably take sometime off for a little bit (easier said than done though)

My top priorites would probably be

1. Continuing to upgrade the HOF RC set
2. Start a 48 Leaf set
3. Start a 55 Topps AA set
4. Start a 35 Chicle set

But who knows!!

Dave

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Date Posted: Sep/09/2008 5:44 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Been waiting too long for this to come in the mail:


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Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 10:29 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Well, wish me luck as I sent these cards to PSA in hopes of getting some bumpage action! I sent in a total of 6 cards as part of my new membership signup, these are my highlights of the sub...








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Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 2:30 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

My lastest addition!




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Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 2:56 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Good Luck on the Bumps Paul.

Great Fears!

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Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 5:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Good Luck on the Bumps Paul.

Great Fears!
>>




Thanks Ryan! Honestly I highly doubt any of them will get a bump other than the Gifford, it should at least be in a 7.5 holder IMO.

Here is a comparison to a PSA 8 that just sold on Ebay today.. I like my 7 better thats why I didnt throw a nasty size bid on it.




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Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 5:17 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

400 Hi Paul

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My 1910 Champions T218 set at 100% with a GPA of 5.01, and all 153 cards are scanned.



Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 5:26 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< 400 Hi Paul >>



Hey Nick! Good to see you buddy!

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Date Posted: Sep/10/2008 5:59 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Great cards, guys...BigDaddyBowman, I think I was bidding with you on that Joe Perry...great card! Here's one I just added, a pretty nice SP from the set:





Date Posted: Sep/11/2008 7:07 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)



<<

<< Good Luck on the Bumps Paul.

Great Fears!
>>




Thanks Ryan! Honestly I highly doubt any of them will get a bump other than the Gifford, it should at least be in a 7.5 holder IMO.

Here is a comparison to a PSA 8 that just sold on Ebay today.. I like my 7 better thats why I didnt throw a nasty size bid on it.


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Your 7 is sweet looking. I saw that Gifford 8 and it was brutal. That's why it sold for 1/2 of smr. Ugly 8.

Good luck with the bumps.

Rich



Date Posted: Sep/13/2008 3:45 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<<

<< The one I was really curious about was the Graham and Namath "unknowns"... nice cards and I wanted to take a look at the checklist to see if it is a set I might keep in mind for the future. If anyone has any info on these, please share it.

Snorto~
>>



To answer your other question ... that set is known as the "1989 TV-4 NFL Quarterbacks". (I just had it marked as unknown because I couldn't remember the year/info when I was naming the scan). It's a 20 card set that was distributed by a London, England TV station (Channel 4) to help promote the NFL back when we started playing pre-season games over there. It has 20 of the greatest QB's to ever play the game, and the drawings are by an artist named J. C. Ford. It's a very inexpensive set, and you can usually find the singles listed for under $5. I personally think it's a great looking little set.
>>



Thanks for the info, Mike... those TV-4 cards are absolutely gorgeous and entirely too inexpensive. I have added this set to my eBay searches in the hope to pick one up in the near future. By the way, I thought you might be interested in this to compliment your set perhaps. Neat piece, no?

Snorto~



Date Posted: Sep/13/2008 3:51 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< My most recent vintage pick-up. (Just in case you missed it in the HOF RC thread)

>>





I am truly envious of that card in any condition and that one has strong eye appeal for a PSA 2. I am with you and would have thought it would have gotten a 3.

Hopefully I will be able to find one that nice for a decent price to add to my Chicle set some day.

Snorto~








Date Posted: Sep/18/2008 7:45 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Just completed a trade for these to add to my 55AA set.


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<< In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982.
Dad, Thanks for everything you did for me.
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Date Posted: Sep/20/2008 7:35 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Nice cards, 2dueces!

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Date Posted: Sep/20/2008 12:57 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I have waited to find the right one for a long time now...finally landed this white whale of mine. Scan doesn't do this beauty justice!



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Date Posted: Sep/20/2008 1:39 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very nice Ryan! Congrats on landing yet another "White Whale" of yours!

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Date Posted: Sep/20/2008 2:28 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Very nice Ryan! Congrats on landing yet another "White Whale" of yours! >>




I second that, that is an amazing looking Hornung Ryan.

God I love 57 topps football!!


Just got one of, well in my opinion, the best looking cards in the 48 leaf set. I just dig the gold uni, look of determination on his face, and its a second series, sooo tough to find in good grades




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Date Posted: Sep/22/2008 5:37 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Picked up a few more today...

tough SP to find with decent centering especially in a 7


thanks to PerkDog for these upgrades...




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Date Posted: Sep/24/2008 7:42 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

My newest addition! Tough card to get due to the NFL HOF Registry guys. Not the best centering but still has good enough eye appeal and without breaking the bank! Oh and very tough to find in PSA 7+!







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Date Posted: Sep/25/2008 7:40 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Have to keep this thread on the first page. Not the best centering, but I love the card itself...





Date Posted: Sep/26/2008 7:40 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

I've really developed an appreciation for the 57 Topps set looking at this thread.

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Date Posted: Sep/26/2008 9:35 PM
Posted By: 70chip (Veteran)

One of my ole time favorite players.....



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Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 7:24 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



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Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 7:44 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Is there a player that appears in a Leaf, Bowman, Topps, Fleer, and Philadelphia set, any year?

There are several that appear in 3 of those company sets. Not sure if there's anyone who appears in 4 of the sets. I doubt there is anyone in all 5 because Leaf was only around 2 years.



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Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 7:52 PM
Posted By: otwcards (Master Collector)

A couple of additions from the Reading show this weekend. The Leaf is the Blue Number variation. I've got one in a PSA 4 and the highest graded is a PSA 5. This one is a no-brainer PSA 6 to go with my Yellow Number PSA 7.



The '73T is signed, "Best Wishes, George Allen." Will be going in to PSA/DNA shortly.

Also found a really nice '66P Hayes RC (along with a NM-MT Hanburger '67P RC) after looking for quite awhile. NM-MT+ corners, but NM centering, but the price was very, very right -- especially considering how hot that card is right now.

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Looking to Upgrade my 1948 Leaf Football Master Set. Buying 1948 Leaf FB Autos, 1894 N302 Football, 19th Century Football Cabinets.



Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 8:13 PM
Posted By: otwcards (Master Collector)



<< Is there a player that appears in a Leaf, Bowman, Topps, Fleer, and Philadelphia set, any year?

There are several that appear in 3 of those company sets. Not sure if there's anyone who appears in 4 of the sets. I doubt there is anyone in all 5 because Leaf was only around 2 years.
>>



I know that Leo Nomellini appears in Leaf, Bowman, Topps, and Fleer. He doesn't have a Philly card. I'm not sure if there are any others.

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MOO,
Scott

Looking to Upgrade my 1948 Leaf Football Master Set. Buying 1948 Leaf FB Autos, 1894 N302 Football, 19th Century Football Cabinets.



Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 10:01 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

Man OH MAN! What KILLER cards you guys all keep posting!!!!


BigDaddy that is One kick ass Hornung Rookie!!!!


Here are a few of my latest additions to my 55 AA set









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Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 11:38 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<< Is there a player that appears in a Leaf, Bowman, Topps, Fleer, and Philadelphia set, any year?

There are several that appear in 3 of those company sets. Not sure if there's anyone who appears in 4 of the sets. I doubt there is anyone in all 5 because Leaf was only around 2 years.
>>



I know that Leo Nomellini appears in Leaf, Bowman, Topps, and Fleer. He doesn't have a Philly card. I'm not sure if there are any others.
>>



Bednarik and Baugh are in Bowman, Leaf, Topps, Fleer but no Philly. Tittle in all but Leaf.....hmmm..I don't think any one is in all of those issues..

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Date Posted: Sep/27/2008 11:40 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

BigDaddy that is One kick ass Hornung Rookie!!!!

Thanks BigRedDog....I searched for a long time for a Hornung 7, with nice centering and preferably in SGC.....and had to grab it when I found it.


Awesome 55's by the way...that Thorpe is a blazer!

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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 11:51 AM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

BigDaddy,

I picked up this Unitas and have been poking around for the Starr and Hornung. Im thinking of just doing a nice upper Mid Grade
57 set. I will give up a bit on the corners for centering everytime. Its just much better eye appeal to me. That Hornung you have is proof of that. I can only hope to find one with as nice as centering.



John

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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 11:55 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

I love those '55 Topps AAs...great stuff, guys. Let's keep it rolling:





Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 1:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That Davis is breathtaking! Even though its not a '52 THAT card is one of my all-time favorites! I love that you guys are posting these sweeeeeeet looking cards!

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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 1:09 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Here is my other favorite from the 1950 series..



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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 1:19 PM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

This thread keeps getting better and better! That Younger is sweet! Love those AA's as well. Keep it going guys, and I can't wait until I have a new card to add.




Robert

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Robert



Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 1:55 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Gotta love those 1950 Bowman Ram cards...here's a few more







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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 2:09 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan those are some GEMS! Very nice centering on all three of those btw.

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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 5:34 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Here's another 1950 Bowman Ram card...





Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 8:19 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



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Date Posted: Sep/28/2008 11:05 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

lil ebay win thats heading to Mr Marchetti:



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Date Posted: Sep/29/2008 5:14 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice Marchetti, do you have any '52 autos?

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Date Posted: Sep/29/2008 5:44 PM
Posted By: otwcards (Master Collector)



<< lil ebay win thats heading to Mr Marchetti:

>>



John:

Still need a McAfee '48 Leaf for your RC Autos? Can offer you a signed one (Sharpie) or a raw one to send out. LMK...

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Scott

Looking to Upgrade my 1948 Leaf Football Master Set. Buying 1948 Leaf FB Autos, 1894 N302 Football, 19th Century Football Cabinets.



Date Posted: Sep/29/2008 7:20 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Just got these in the mail today. One more 48 leaf saved from OTW cards hands..... thats all the world asks of me






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Date Posted: Sep/29/2008 7:21 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Geeze Joe my freakin' neck is all messed up after looking at those!

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Date Posted: Sep/29/2008 7:41 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Geeze Joe my freakin' neck is all messed up after looking at those! >>



ROFFL, I didnt notice that Paul, thats really funny.

i suppose I could have done something about that if I had noticed..... or cared for that matter



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Date Posted: Sep/30/2008 8:20 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Let's bump this up again:





Date Posted: Sep/30/2008 8:47 PM
Posted By: otwcards (Master Collector)



<< One more 48 leaf saved from OTW cards hands..... thats all the world asks of me

>>



I'll remember that . . .



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MOO,
Scott

Looking to Upgrade my 1948 Leaf Football Master Set. Buying 1948 Leaf FB Autos, 1894 N302 Football, 19th Century Football Cabinets.



Date Posted: Sep/30/2008 8:48 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

Perkdog- nope not yet buddy. They are all expensive it seems, and being a bottom feeder it takes awhile. Got the Marchetti for $20, havent found the others for that price quite yet.

OTW- PM sent, thanks

John

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Date Posted: Oct/03/2008 10:15 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Thanks to Perkdog for selling me this awesome card!



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Date Posted: Oct/03/2008 10:18 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Tough to let it go but the world will soon see why

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Date Posted: Oct/04/2008 2:33 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Got a few tall boys in the mail today from a good (crazy) friend.

Been working on getting them for a few months, he finally relented to a trade, although i have no idea what he's going to do with a pair of my underwear... oh well





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Date Posted: Oct/04/2008 2:44 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Cha going to do with those Joe? Did you start a '65 set?

Tsk Tsk you still have alot of work to do on that '88 set of yours!

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Date Posted: Oct/04/2008 2:49 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

I like those tall boys, another great set from Topps. The Namath will set you back though.

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Date Posted: Oct/04/2008 3:59 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

Picked up a couple of LSU rookies for my collection this week.

First was a minor pickup




then came a card that is already one of my favorites!

1948 Bowman Rookie Card of LSU and Philadelphia Eagles great Steve Van Buren!



I used some of the cash from the Koufax/Drysdale I sold to pick up the Van Buren

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Date Posted: Oct/05/2008 11:38 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Fantastic Lenny Moore and Van Buren!

Doug



Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 9:50 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

The 57's have really grown on me. I can see why this set is so highly regarded. I just picked this up and I'm thinking about doing the set.



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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 9:51 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

Got one in today for my 69 set. Which leaves only 9 left to complete the set.




Totals

PSA 8 - 250
PSA 8.5 - 1
PSA 9 - 3

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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 2:12 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

HUGE MAILDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH Man am I PUMPED!! My White Whale of White Whales arrived today! I cant even say that I have been activly searching for this Van Brocklin because I never thought I would find one in PSA 7 that was nicely centered, well after innocently posting in the Vintage Sportscards forum looking for 1952 Bowman Large Football I not only get an email about cards that were available but the unbelievable chance to cherry pick a near complete set of 52 Large Football!!!!!!!!!!! Well I sounded the alarm and put up all my 51 Bowmans on the Bay- tough to let them go but it had to be done!!

These were my selections, I cannot begin to tell you how happy and excited I am! And to the seller, I know you are reading this so again THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 2:14 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)




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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 3:09 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Simply awesome Perk! The Van Brocklin is amazing! Here is my pick-up from that 52 Large lot....a card that I just love..Concrete Charlie



Of course I feel like Perk's Wing Man. He picks out all the 7's and I get the leftover 6! LOL I'll take a great looking 6 anytme!



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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 3:22 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That Bednarik is awesome Ryan! I had to move quick on those others before your grubby fingers could get ahold of them first!

Just a great day all around, I know you been looking for that card for awhile-congrats.

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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 3:57 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Thanks Paul...Here are the other 2 new arivals today:





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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 4:26 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Nice pickups Ryan, love the 54 bowman set!!

Paul is becoming quite the hog when it comes to the 52b. Im OK with that, so long as he stays away from my beloved 88 topps set

joe

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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 5:54 PM
Posted By: TJMAC (Veteran)

Perk those 52's are absolute beauties!!! It is always nice getting #1 out of the way. How far are you along with the set?



Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 6:03 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Perkdog- Those 52 large look GGRREEAAATT! PSA7's are so under appreciated. Good luck and I hope to see you soon in 100% club

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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 6:03 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Perk those 52's are absolute beauties!!! It is always nice getting #1 out of the way. How far are you along with the set? >>



Thank You, I am very excited to say the least! These 5 cards will put me at only around 35% but the rest ( Other than the Y.A Tittle ) I am not going to be overly concerned with getting in PSA 7's as long as they are centered well. Unfortunately there is the Lansford and a few other really tough SP's that will command big bucks but I wont mind getting those in "Filler" type grade as they are not very popular players save the Joe Stydahar.

I sold off all of my 51 Bowmans to fund this purchase so the financial hit wasnt bad at all but Ive got a long way to go and plan on pacing myself.

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Date Posted: Oct/06/2008 6:04 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Perkdog- Those 52 large look GGRREEAAATT! PSA7's are so under appreciated. Good luck and I hope to see you soon in 100% club >>




Thank You Frank! You and a few others up there are my motivation!

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Date Posted: Oct/08/2008 9:46 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Picked this up. I guess that means I've officially started a 57 set.



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Date Posted: Oct/08/2008 2:44 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Picked this up. I guess that means I've officially started a 57 set.

>>




The more the merrier! Just please make sure you post your new additions!

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Date Posted: Oct/08/2008 6:46 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I am glad that your starting the 57 set.....hope to see bunches of scans of 57's...besides I am getting tired of looking at all the 52 Larges that Perk keeps posting

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Date Posted: Oct/08/2008 8:58 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< I am glad that your starting the 57 set.....hope to see bunches of scans of 57's...besides I am getting tired of looking at all the 52 Larges that Perk keeps posting >>



Nice! Now maybe you will completely ignore all that pop up on Ebay ( And certain individuals websights )

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Date Posted: Oct/08/2008 9:09 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<< I am glad that your starting the 57 set.....hope to see bunches of scans of 57's...besides I am getting tired of looking at all the 52 Larges that Perk keeps posting >>



Nice! Now maybe you will completely ignore all that pop up on Ebay ( And certain individuals websights )
>>




R U kidding me Perk! I love your cards...I am just busting your chops..keep posting them! Besides, I try to stay away from the PSA 7 52 large and only attack SGC's and psa 6 because I know you don't go after those.

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Date Posted: Oct/08/2008 10:32 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Picked this up. I guess that means I've officially started a 57 set.

>>



Welcome to the 57 topps club!! One of my favorite sets man, ONE....

Im about 10 away from completeing it, and i just picked up 3 of them over the weekend. Ill post scans, of course, once i receive them.



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Date Posted: Oct/10/2008 1:50 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

My newest addition to my 52 set- a HOF RAM!!!!!!!!!!




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Date Posted: Oct/11/2008 8:48 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

not quite Vintage, but as a boy I was a big fan of the USFL, and I added another rookie from the set.



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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 11:56 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great Robustelli Perk!

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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 12:14 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Picked this one up from DSL also.



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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 2:43 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Great Robustelli Perk! >>



Oh yea it is!

I was pumped! I got a call from a friend telling me that it was available and I pounced!!!

Blackborder- Are you doing the '57 set in PSA 8?

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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 2:51 PM
Posted By: Mphilking (Collector)

The Microsoft Discount and a GREAT seller helped me afford this baby.





Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 2:54 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< The Microsoft Discount and a GREAT seller helped me afford this baby.

>>



awesome card! That is one of the tops on my want list right now!

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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 3:02 PM
Posted By: Mphilking (Collector)

Thanks Rex, I have a VERY NICE Raw one and bought this PSA 9 and two more GORGEOUS SGC 88's. The 88's are SHARP but a bit OC. The seller said he wanted to send the 9 in to get regraded, I'm not sure it would be higher than a 9, but who knows.



Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 4:11 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Two more from my favorite vintage FB set:





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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 4:17 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

yer 50 bowman fb cards make rube cry sweet though,i been picking up some scg slabbed stuff myself latley

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"1952 TOPPS REGISTRY AUTO SET"



Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 5:17 PM
Posted By: Mphilking (Collector)

50 Bowman have thEEE best facial expressions on the players.



Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 5:18 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

true mp-steve van buren look like a psyco killer in his pic

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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 5:33 PM
Posted By: Mphilking (Collector)

Rube do you mean this boyscout?





Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 6:29 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Van Buren and Ollie Matson always had the best, although very different, facial expressions year after year.



Snorto~



Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 6:45 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Landry looks like Rube sniped him in the back on this one!




Fears looks like my son's face when he broke his Mom's lamp...


Who farted????


OK..I am done for now!!

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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 9:33 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Droppin a duece



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Date Posted: Oct/12/2008 10:37 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)



<< lil ebay win thats heading to Mr Marchetti:

>>



2 weeks later:



There ya go Paul, gotta 52 auto now!
John

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2008 9:21 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<<
Blackborder- Are you doing the '57 set in PSA 8?
>>




Well.....I'd like to, but 7-8 is a more realistic goal for me, and that a 3-4 year goal. I don't think I can swing the Starr-Unitas-Hornung in 8, but 7 seems within reach.

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2008 9:28 AM
Posted By: MeteoriteGuy (Master Collector)

Here is my only really cool vintage football card. It does have a little wax stain on the back.



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Date Posted: Oct/13/2008 12:57 PM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)

Dang, Joe, why dont you show something worth my time.......

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FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!




Date Posted: Oct/13/2008 1:13 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Charlie looks like he is ready to puke maybe?



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Date Posted: Oct/13/2008 7:44 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Just picked up this upgrade!


I have a PSA 6 available of this card for any one interested.

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Date Posted: Oct/13/2008 10:07 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Dang, Joe, why dont you show something worth my time....... >>




Thanks Dave, I can send you a scan of my Largent psa 1 if you want

Just got these in the mail this morning from Rick at Mint state. I finally found out how much you have to spend with Rick to get a free pen, cheapskate





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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 12:58 AM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

nice Berry!

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 2:57 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice cards Joe! Also let it be known that I have received my pen from Rick as well!

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 4:51 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice cards Joe! Also let it be known that I have received my pen from Rick as well! >>




Hey I didn't get a flippin pen! Guess you have to spend OVER 200 to get the free pen!

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 5:03 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<<

<< Nice cards Joe! Also let it be known that I have received my pen from Rick as well! >>




Hey I didn't get a flippin pen! Guess you have to spend OVER 200 to get the free pen!
>>



Actually Ryan you only have to spend about $50 to get a free pen, you cheap Ba$tard

Thank you by the way for the Gridiron articles about the 52bowman and 48 leaf sets, very cool writeups, i appreciate you faxing those to me (long distance)

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 5:17 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<<

<< Nice cards Joe! Also let it be known that I have received my pen from Rick as well! >>




Hey I didn't get a flippin pen! Guess you have to spend OVER 200 to get the free pen!
>>



Actually Ryan you only have to spend about $50 to get a free pen, you cheap Ba$tard

Thank you by the way for the Gridiron articles about the 52bowman and 48 leaf sets, very cool writeups, i appreciate you faxing those to me (long distance)

joe
>>




I spent $199.00 and got no pen! I will never buy from Rick again! (yeah right) I probably tore the box open so fast in my excitement that I didn't even see the pen!

Your welcome about the articles. I thought the 52 Bowman article was pretty interesting.

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 5:40 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

It was VERY interesting Ryan- I assume thats the same article you sent me awhile ago. One question you brought up which I still cant find an answer for is why some of the pennants have just the players name on it while others have the name AND the Pro team or College team name with it.

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 5:42 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Hey Rick, Instead of free pens...I suggest you give out t-shirts that read "I went to Mint State and all I got was this lousy t-shirt...and a damn nice card!"

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 5:43 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< It was VERY interesting Ryan- I assume thats the same article you sent me awhile ago. One question you brought up which I still cant find an answer for is why some of the pennants have just the players name on it while others have the name AND the Pro team or College team name with it. >>



Hey Paul..yep same article.

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 5:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Hey Rick, Instead of free pens...I suggest you give out t-shirts that read "I went to Mint State and all I got was this lousy t-shirt...and a damn nice card!" >>




The pen is great actually! "This pen was stolen from Mint State inc" I laughed my butt off when I saw it in the box today!

Ryan just do what I did- send Rick harrasing emails and phone calls early saturady mornings demanding an explanation on why you didnt get a pen, he will crack under pressure!

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Date Posted: Oct/14/2008 6:12 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<< Hey Rick, Instead of free pens...I suggest you give out t-shirts that read "I went to Mint State and all I got was this lousy t-shirt...and a damn nice card!" >>




The pen is great actually! "This pen was stolen from Mint State inc" I laughed my butt off when I saw it in the box today!

Ryan just do what I did- send Rick harrasing emails and phone calls early saturady mornings demanding an explanation on why you didnt get a pen, he will crack under pressure!
>>




LOL....Rick already emailed me telling me that he will give me 2 free pens if I buy from him again.....now that's a deal I can't pass up!

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Date Posted: Oct/15/2008 10:19 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Hey, check out my new icon.

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Date Posted: Oct/15/2008 12:49 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Hey, check out my new icon. >>




Love the Icon! In fact When I saw that it made me put another Bowman in my sig-line LOL, I messed up somehow and cant figure out how to add a few more- Im thinking that the "Perkies" might need to go but the Old School Pats IS STAYING!!!


EDIT: # 500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to all of you for keeping this thread going!

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Date Posted: Oct/15/2008 2:04 PM
Posted By: drewsef (Collector)



<<

<< Hey, check out my new icon. >>




Love the Icon! In fact When I saw that it made me put another Bowman in my sig-line LOL, I messed up somehow and cant figure out how to add a few more- Im thinking that the "Perkies" might need to go but the Old School Pats IS STAYING!!!


EDIT: # 500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to all of you for keeping this thread going!
>>



pure blasphemy, the perkies must stay or be improved upon, sounds like a poll is in order



Date Posted: Oct/15/2008 2:07 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

LOL I think your right Drew! They prolly should stay. BUT if I do decide on letting them go a poll would be in order and they could stay depending on the majority rule..

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Date Posted: Oct/15/2008 2:22 PM
Posted By: drewsef (Collector)



<< LOL I think your right Drew! They prolly should stay. BUT if I do decide on letting them go a poll would be in order and they could stay depending on the majority rule.. >>



well, that's the only fair thing to do. You guys have some nice vintage football coming in, keep it coming.



Date Posted: Oct/15/2008 5:55 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I am starting a new charity "Save the Perkies!"

Perk...wipe that thought from your mind! I think staring at your 52 large is starting to warp your mind. Get rid of the Perkies??? craziest thing I have heard in a while...

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 6:42 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< I am starting a new charity "Save the Perkies!"

Perk...wipe that thought from your mind! I think staring at your 52 large is starting to warp your mind. Get rid of the Perkies??? craziest thing I have heard in a while...
>>



Ditto that, the Perkies cant go Paul. I mean, I love my football cards, but if it comes down to a scan of 52 large matson or the perkies in your sig line, I vote for the perkies all day long.

Speaking of 57 topps, I just got these from Mike T (no not that loser Mike T shouldabeena) at nearmint. Perfect transaction, I highly recommend checking out his store.



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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 7:04 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice cards as usual Joe! So whats the deal? 1950 Bowman? 1957 Topps? Or the ever elusive 1988 Topps? Or all three?

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 7:18 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Nice cards as usual Joe! So whats the deal? 1950 Bowman? 1957 Topps? Or the ever elusive 1988 Topps? Or all three? >>



LOL, all three and a "few" more Paul

I love football cards, what can i say my friend. When the competition for the 88 topps set starts to heat up, I move on to another set until things cool down a bit. Alot of the big dogs are closet 88 collectors you know. Ask Ryan, I know he's outbid me on quite a few

There are honestly just a few sets I love and have been slowly but surely collecting for years. 48 leaf, 50 bowman, 57 topps and 84 topps are my favorites. I think I only need about 15 cards to complete the 57 topps set.

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 11:13 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

bsidegrve, how are these coming along? Havnt seen you around lately..







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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 12:02 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Hello Perkdog here is the other version of the 52' Bowman






I've made em for maybe 30-40 different sets
when I get time here and there I work on them, I like to put em on the binders when I do raw sets

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 2:28 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Mark I love the newer version ( without the shadow ) Lmk if you can sell me one!

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Date Posted: Oct/16/2008 2:50 PM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)

Have you made a 48 leaf football?

Those are very cool!!

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Date Posted: Oct/17/2008 6:10 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<< Hello I've made em for maybe 30-40 different sets
when I get time here and there I work on them, I like to put em on the binders when I do raw sets
>>



Those are really good. Did you do a 57 FB?

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Date Posted: Oct/20/2008 11:17 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

added 3 more for the 1969 set today.

Down to 6 left. Of the 6 I have left I have 3 incoming, and the other 3 in grading

Here is what I got in today:



and added my 4th 9 to go along with 252 8's and 1 8.5



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Date Posted: Oct/20/2008 8:37 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Here is some of the older labels
perkdog I don't really sell em I just make em up, but u can take and print image right from pic, resize if needed..
I'm all for making any changes to any of them..











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Date Posted: Oct/20/2008 10:02 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

I dig those cards you make bside! Very cool

Here are few that arrived in the old mail box today (well actually to the office, then to my "football drawer" in my desk) but you get the point



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Date Posted: Oct/21/2008 7:07 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< I dig those cards you make bside! Very cool

Here are few that arrived in the old mail box today (well actually to the office, then to my "football drawer" in my desk) but you get the point

>>



I love the Chuck Howley. Very under appreciated player!

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Date Posted: Oct/21/2008 9:11 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<<
>>




Good job on those! Would it be possible to do the 1957 without the shadow, and put the 19 centered in the first box, and the 57 centered in the second box? Thanks!

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Date Posted: Oct/21/2008 11:45 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another SP for my set!




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Date Posted: Oct/22/2008 8:03 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I posted this pick-up last week with the scan from the ebay auction......wanted to repost with my own scan when card arrived...it looks SO much nicer than old scan! I think it may get a bump..if I ever submit to PSA




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Date Posted: Oct/22/2008 8:07 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

Wow, Paul, is that a rare 1952 Bowman Xtra Large?


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Date Posted: Oct/22/2008 8:22 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

NICE '57 BERRY!! I'm jealous. Get 'er signed!



John

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Date Posted: Oct/23/2008 3:02 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

From my page a day calendar from 10/22/2008:

On this day 10/22/1950:
'The Los Angeles Rams drub the Baltimore Colts in the regular season by the same lopsided score they recorded in the preseason, 70-27, at the Coliseum in L.A. The Rams score 10 TDs in this game, 64 during the year and 466 points in a 12-game season, all league records. With two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks, Norm Van Brocklin and Bob Waterfield, two future Hall of Fame receivers in Crazy Legs Hirsch and Tom Fears, and the Bull Elephant backfield of Dick Hoerner, Tank Younger and Deacon Dan Towler, the Rams are virtually unstoppable. They'll just miss out on an NFL title, losing 30-28 on a Lou Groza field goal in the final seconds of the championship game at Cleveland, but Los Angeles will rebound in 1951 and win the crown, beating the Browns in a playoff rematch at L.A.'

I love these little highlights. Imagine having the Super Bowl played on your home field? I just thought about all of these guys on my '50 Bowman set when I first read this story. The Rams sounded like they were an absolute scoring machine, much like their '99-'00 squad, but in a much different era, obviously!

Mark



Date Posted: Oct/23/2008 4:26 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

paul,is it me, or does tom johnson look like hes gonna spontaniously combust in that pic

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Date Posted: Oct/23/2008 6:34 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Man you guys a tuning me up on that Tom Johnson card! Its just a nice PSA 7 SP that didnt cost me $500 thats all

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Date Posted: Oct/23/2008 6:36 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< From my page a day calendar from 10/22/2008:

On this day 10/22/1950:
'The Los Angeles Rams drub the Baltimore Colts in the regular season by the same lopsided score they recorded in the preseason, 70-27, at the Coliseum in L.A. The Rams score 10 TDs in this game, 64 during the year and 466 points in a 12-game season, all league records. With two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks, Norm Van Brocklin and Bob Waterfield, two future Hall of Fame receivers in Crazy Legs Hirsch and Tom Fears, and the Bull Elephant backfield of Dick Hoerner, Tank Younger and Deacon Dan Towler, the Rams are virtually unstoppable. They'll just miss out on an NFL title, losing 30-28 on a Lou Groza field goal in the final seconds of the championship game at Cleveland, but Los Angeles will rebound in 1951 and win the crown, beating the Browns in a playoff rematch at L.A.'

I love these little highlights. Imagine having the Super Bowl played on your home field? I just thought about all of these guys on my '50 Bowman set when I first read this story. The Rams sounded like they were an absolute scoring machine, much like their '99-'00 squad, but in a much different era, obviously!

Mark
>>




Love it! Great stuff, those early 50's Rams teams were stacked with talent! If only Towler and Younger played more than 5 seasons? They would more than likely been HOF'ers themselves.

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Date Posted: Oct/23/2008 7:52 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

Here is a new one I got today (it's a small)



thanks
John

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Date Posted: Oct/23/2008 8:16 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

love the bowman fb autos
and perkies perkies
and my bottle bob

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Date Posted: Oct/24/2008 12:47 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Today's mailday was a great one!







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Date Posted: Oct/24/2008 1:32 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

bdb, if that lary is an upgrade i'm in the market for a low-mid grade one.

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Date Posted: Oct/24/2008 8:46 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan those are some sweet looking SGC's! Love the Landry- nice job on that one!

Here is my measly addition...




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Date Posted: Oct/24/2008 10:10 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Bigdaddybowman......The Berry Rc and the 52,51 Bowmans are just plain sweet cards!!


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Date Posted: Oct/24/2008 10:39 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Terrific mail day, Ryan -- those are outstanding!

Doug



Date Posted: Oct/24/2008 11:01 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< Today's mailday was a great one!

>>



Mr. Motley was a bad, bad man... in a good, good way. Great mail day indeed, BDB.



Snorto~



Date Posted: Oct/25/2008 12:15 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

thanks guys...I was really pumped about the Landry. I was able to pick up all 3 for less than the SMR of just the Landry.




This came today.....



P.S. and by the way, I am NOT going to tell Perk nice Large Hipps! That would just be weird!

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2008 1:48 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

sweet stuff, motley was a monster, and perk bought him some hipps for perkies perkies, let me know when ya got em attached

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2008 1:50 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

ps, nice large hipps paul , i sorry couldnty resist
its osamas fault, pretty sure of it

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Date Posted: Oct/25/2008 2:41 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< ps, nice large hipps paul , i sorry couldnty resist
its osamas fault, pretty sure of it
>>






Im Ok with the "Large Hipps" thing Again Ryan your driving me mad with all these nice cards your snagging, making it very tough staying the course with just my '52's!



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Date Posted: Oct/27/2008 9:37 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Don't stray Perk...stay strong with the 52L!

Here's todays mail...


I have a PSA 7 available if anyone's interested..

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2008 9:46 AM
Posted By: BunchOBull (Master Collector)

Vintage bowling? I thought this was a football thread. Crisp pickup.

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2008 3:25 PM
Posted By: TJMAC (Veteran)

Landry, Motley and Yary. I would say you had a pretty nice mail day!!! Great looking cards.



Date Posted: Oct/27/2008 4:44 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Landry, Motley and Yary. I would say you had a pretty nice mail day!!! Great looking cards. >>




Please. Just another routine mail day for BigDaddy Ryan!

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Date Posted: Oct/27/2008 6:13 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< HUGE MAILDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





>>





None of my mail days compare to this one of Paul's!

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 5:59 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

Not really "vintage," but it's my newest. Actually, I did a new version when I found a better college photo of Nitschke.



My Photobucket album

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 8:15 AM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)

Awesome card!! So Ray DID have hair at one time.......

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 8:58 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< Not really "vintage," but it's my newest. Actually, I did a new version when I found a better college photo of Nitschke.



My Photobucket album
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great work.

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 5:41 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Slingin' Sammy!!



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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 5:48 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very Nice Joe! Im curious why that card isnt included in his player set?

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 6:27 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Very Nice Joe! Im curious why that card isnt included in his player set? >>




Is it because it was issued after his playing career ended???

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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 8:42 PM
Posted By: thehallmark (Veteran)

Geeez...that Baugh card just kills me. Such a beauty.

This is such a dangerous thread for me to lurk in. financially, that is.



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Date Posted: Oct/28/2008 9:33 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<<

<< Very Nice Joe! Im curious why that card isnt included in his player set? >>




Is it because it was issued after his playing career ended???
>>



I didnt realize it wasnt in his player set (probably because I dont collect it)

NFL stats have Sammy playing from 1937 to 1952, so that supports Big Daddy's theory. I know that no Largent card past his retirement of 89 is allowed in the player set, so i guess there's our answer.

Im slowly, ever so slowly, creeping into the 55 topps AA set...

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Date Posted: Oct/29/2008 6:58 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< Slingin' Sammy!!

>>



I love that card. I wish I had the wallet to do that set. I had a raw Grange, Rockne and Baugh when I was younger, but nothing that clean.

Congrats on the pickup!

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Date Posted: Oct/30/2008 5:29 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Just picked this up off ebay for a buck plus shipping...can't beat it. I've read the chapter on Joe Perry and I am almost done with the Hugh McElhenny chapter....What a backfield!!!! 4 HOF'ers






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Date Posted: Oct/31/2008 1:13 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Picked this up using the MSNLive cashback.....saved 50 bucks!




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Date Posted: Oct/31/2008 2:10 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Awesome Tittle Ryan! That looks better than the 7 I passed on, great stuff! I will be adding a few to the thread next week sometime.

I will also be searching for that book your reading

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Date Posted: Oct/31/2008 8:24 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

That Sammy card is probably my favorite 55AA.

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Date Posted: Nov/01/2008 6:39 AM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

A nice set of 1968 KDKA Steelers cards came in the mail yesterday. I love these cards! It's easy to see why the Steelers stunk back then, though: I didn't recognize half of the names. Andy Russell and Ray Mansfield are the only two players who stuck out.




It was fun researching the coaches, too. Most of them had previously been players. DePasqua went on to coach at Pitt for a few years.



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Date Posted: Nov/01/2008 12:36 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Picked these up.





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Date Posted: Nov/04/2008 12:46 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



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Date Posted: Nov/04/2008 2:23 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

Won this Trippi (exmt or exmt+) on eBay for $3 a few weeks ago. sent it off to him, and here it is:




Sure turns a decent little card into a sweet piece!
thanks
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Date Posted: Nov/04/2008 8:16 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

Just started a 57 set myself! Im going to do a centered EXMT-NM Raw set.
Will probably end up cracking some cards out of holders at some point.
Heres where I stand. Its not much but its a start!










Anybody have any nice centered NMish 57 cards to deal?

I have the following 55 AA for sale or trade.
$20 each + shipping




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Date Posted: Nov/04/2008 8:35 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

those are some gorgeous 57s, nice start!

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Date Posted: Nov/05/2008 9:22 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

another new one today:



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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 5:55 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

Wow! I really like that Joe Schmidt. Congrats!

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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 6:32 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I love the Trippi..He has a great 'graph!

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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 7:41 PM
Posted By: goraiders (Collector)

Here's a couple of my favorite vintage,


Beater but it's mine,





Not an old one,but like the auto,


Well i guess it's more than a few,I could go on forever.

Great lookig start on the 57's,gotta love that set.


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Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8

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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 8:07 PM
Posted By: otwcards (Master Collector)

After seeing James post his '48 Leaf Thompsons, I figured I'd share mine. Currently, each is a one of three and there are none graded higher. I still think the Blue Number should be a PSA 6...



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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 8:38 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Why did PSA label the one Thompson card as "Tom"?

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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 10:38 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Why did PSA label the one Thompson card as "Tom"? >>



I was wondering the same thing, its just that Ryan is smarter than me

You certainly know your 48's Scott, from the variations to the ink process. Very cool. Did you learn all that in barber school?

Here is a recent pickup of mine. In honor of Skins fan, Arty, a 67 philly wax pack



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Date Posted: Nov/06/2008 10:57 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

<I am starting a new charity "Save the Perkies!">

me too

nice packe joe
rube-a -quiz
i really shouldnt look at the fb cards, ill start another set and sell it

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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 12:24 AM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

none higher than a 5? wowee!

48 leafs are SOOO cool. I'd like to start a low to low-mid grade set. If anyone has em for sale.

John

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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 10:07 AM
Posted By: goraiders (Collector)

<< Why did PSA label the one Thompson card as "Tom"? >>

I'm waiting on scott myself for the answer.Great pics,love that blue jrsy.

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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 10:36 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Picked this up. Not a good pic, it's brighter in hand.



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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 8:23 PM
Posted By: shouldabeena10 (Collector)

A few more oddball football items .... to liven up the vintage football party:

1951 Berk Ross #3-14 Wade Walker


1960 Mayrose Franks Cardinals


1968-73 Sports Pix #19 Y.A. Title


1963 Steelers IDL Drug Stores #8 Bob Ferguson


1972 Chiquita NFL All Stars Slides #3-6 Bill Bergey / Gary Collins / Walt Sweeney / Bubba Smith


1963 Stancraft Playing Cards


1953 Wheaties / Dell Comics - Tom Fears


1950 Paris Gum All Sports Felt Banners


1972 Fleer Magic Quiz Cards


1968-70 Partridge Meats #FB4 Bob Trumpy


1951-52 Redskins Matchbooks #3 Slingin' Sammy Baugh


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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 8:32 PM
Posted By: goraiders (Collector)

Good stuff mike,love the obscure items.Very interesting

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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 8:35 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

thanks for posting all the cool oddball stuff...but I do think it was a kind of rude to post the questions on the cards and not provide us with the answers


who was the first to wear #'s???

To go along with you Fears comic...


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Date Posted: Nov/07/2008 9:06 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Wow, those wheaties comics are really cheesy. I just read the waterfield one, boy is it bad. Did you guys know theres a whole kernel of wheat in every flake? I sure didnt

Great stuff guys, thanks for posting, even you MT..... ^()^

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Date Posted: Nov/08/2008 6:38 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<< Wow, those wheaties comics are really cheesy. I just read the waterfield one, boy is it bad. Did you guys know theres a whole kernel of wheat in every flake? I sure didnt >>



Exactly. The whole "spark" theme was odd too. I guess that was the buzzword of the day. Spark up!


I liked the oddball stuff. The sports banner box and matchbook covers were cool.

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Date Posted: Nov/08/2008 7:35 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

If anyone is interested, I have an Al Blozis comic book story posted on my website


Blozis comic book

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Date Posted: Nov/08/2008 7:44 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Here's a neat site that I visit often.

Vintage Football Gallery

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 8:06 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Great stuff fellas! I have been working a ton of hours so havnt had much time to post lately, however I will have some GEM's to post later next week!

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 9:53 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Here's a neat site that I visit often.

Vintage Football Gallery
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Did Mike pay you to advertise that? Does it have Spark?

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 9:55 AM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<< Does it have Spark? >>






Seriously, does that site belong to a board member?

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 10:20 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<< Does it have Spark? >>






Seriously, does that site belong to a board member?
>>




yep, Mike nearmint...and yes I also heard that it contains a whole kernal of wheat per flake.

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 10:40 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

OK time to post my latest pickups...some "Extra Large" '52 Large Football!






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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 11:31 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

superb Perk..simply superb!

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 11:50 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< superb Perk..simply superb! >>



Thanks Ryan! I was a little skeptical paying PSA 8 money for the Hirsch because of the centering at first but after looking at the scan some more Im glad I snagged it. Im really excited about the Bednarik, Im not sure it has a chance at a bump or not but Im going to find out!

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 11:51 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< superb Perk..simply superb! >>



Wow PP, both of those cards got that wheaties spark!

great centering, great color. Big Perkdog bowman?



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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 1:06 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<<

<< superb Perk..simply superb! >>



Wow PP, both of those cards got that wheaties spark!

great centering, great color. Big Perkdog bowman?
>>




There's no doubt that Paul is the "Big Daddy" of 52 Larges!

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 1:39 PM
Posted By: JasP24 (Expert Collector)

Other than the Stydahar, this has got to be the toughest 52 Bowman Large HOF RC out there...After a LONG LONG wait, I finally picked one up.



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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 2:34 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Jason that is a phenominal pick up! No doubt a very tough card let alone in PSA 8! Im jealous.

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Date Posted: Nov/09/2008 2:47 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Great Matson and Bednarik 52's!!!!!! maybe some lifetime I can be in the same league as you guys with these pickups....lol

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Date Posted: Nov/10/2008 1:10 PM
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Date Posted: Nov/10/2008 1:35 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice Ryan! I love that card, Im looking for the '53 Motley myself- the ONLY non 52 Im willing to buy right now...

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Date Posted: Nov/11/2008 7:08 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

2 more 1950 Bowmans:

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Date Posted: Nov/13/2008 5:20 AM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

Wow, gorgeous Geri and Nowasky!

Here's the latest improvement to my 1961 Lake to Lake Packers set:



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Date Posted: Nov/13/2008 7:26 AM
Posted By: heinlein99 (Member)

You know, I don't really like football, but something about these vintage cards really appeals to me. They seem very innocent, or something.

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 11:23 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Very happy with todays pick-up:



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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 12:58 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

That is an F'n killer Doak Ryan!!

Why is that not in a nicer holder..... perfectly centered, very nice!!


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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 2:59 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< That is an F'n killer Doak Ryan!!

Why is that not in a nicer holder..... perfectly centered, very nice!!
>>





thanks I was pumped...picked it up for under $130 off ebay. I was expecting to pay much more for it. Unfortunately it has a touch of wax stain on back which would probably prevent it from an 8.

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 4:38 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

If it wasnt for that bottom right corner that Doak would be in a different holder for sure! One of my favorite cards in the set-very nice Ryan!

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 4:56 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)



<< That is an F'n killer Doak Ryan!!

Why is that not in a nicer holder..... perfectly centered, very nice!!
>>



It definately has spark.

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 5:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Oh BTW Ryan and Joe, I received a SECOND MINT STATE pen today with another order that arrived

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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 6:15 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

I've lurked, with envy, for far too long. Here are a few highlights from my collection. Over the past eight months I've turned my attention to HOFers and certain other memorable players from 1935 to 1963. I have complete football sets from 1964 to 1989 raw and to keep my collection under control I shifted to graded HOFers instead of sets from before 1964.



I got my undergrad from WSU, amazing such a small set (National Chicle) would contain two Cougs. I included a Husky, but all hail to The King - story is that Hugh took a pay cut by going pro. I've met Keith Lincoln several times and he's very cool.



I always chuckle when ebay sellers include Jewish when selling cards of Luckman, Mix...Never see players identified as Catholic, Baptist. Anyone who bedded Jane Russell is a stud, I bet Waterfield crossed his heart often.



Taliaferro is such an amazing story, the Jackie Robinson of pro football for breaking the color barrier at quarterback. Any Motley or Graham card in a collection is awesome.



Perhaps the very worst picture every for Bednarik, conversely, what a great picture of Van Brocklin. I occasionally by OC cards for a bargain if they present well and I think the Ford presents very well.

I'll post some more at a later date. Tony



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Date Posted: Nov/14/2008 6:19 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Tony great to have you aboard! Thank you for posting, you have some very nice cards I look forward to seeing more scans from you!

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Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 12:10 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Here are some more 52's for your viewing pleasure!






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Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 12:47 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Since no one else does...I am going to give some love to the 48 Bowman...







and a few cool looking commons...




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Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 4:08 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

Does anyone know the scoop on the 1957 Sherman #58 variations? The master set registry list 2 variations, Willard (error) and Williard (correct). There are also cards with the Rams team not printed on front. I just bought a PSA 8 identified on the label as "Cor. Rams team on front". However......the name on the back of the card is Willard Sherman. So....I'm confused. It seems my card is mislabeled (probably). Also, I believe there are probably at least 3 variations of this card.

Anyone know more about this? Thanks!

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Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 7:14 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Mcolney - thanks for giving some love to the Chicles! To keep it going, here are a couple of my recent pick ups for my beater set.

These two, one of which is a tough high number, display beautifully for their grades I think:



Another high number and the last card in the set:



Half the set down and half to go... with a couple more upgrades to do as I would like to complete the set in PSA 3 NQ some day.

Snorto~



Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 7:23 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

snorto..love those chicles!

is that a pair of ladies panties on the ground by Tom Jone's feet? Sorry....couldn't pass that one up.

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Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 7:31 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< snorto..love those chicles!

is that a pair of ladies panties on the ground by Tom Jone's feet? Sorry....couldn't pass that one up.
>>



I was going to make a similar comment... but I didn't want to show my age.



Snorto~



Date Posted: Nov/15/2008 8:07 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

Just a little something.

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 8:37 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

Ryan - Those '48s are great. Just lost out on a Luckman on ebay. Will try again. Though B&W, to me the image quality is much better than the '48 and '49 Leafs.

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 8:43 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

Some more from my collection:



The Trippi is just a classic pose. Anything vintage with a Rams helmet is cool. The Summerall presents very well for OC and got it for a bargain. Moore is a proud man!



I can't look at Donovan without laughing. His interviews on NFL Films are classic - in his card he looks like he's wearing a 10-gallon cup. The images of Hirsch reaching for the ball are some of the all time classics - if you didn't know who he was you still might guess his name is Crazy Legs.



Impossible to not display these two together. Thanks to Big Daddy Bowman for the Berry. The Unitas is a 4, but no creases and displays very well. I've lived my whole life in the Pacific Northwest, but if I had to do it over again I'd pick growing up in Baltimore in the 50's and 60's.

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 8:56 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Glad the Berry found a good home! The 55 Bowman Trippi is one of my all-time favorite cards. Great coloring..great pose...great player..can't beat it.


I have really contemplated starting the 55 Bowman set...can't beat the eye appeal of it. Even the commons look great!

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 11:34 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

This is more in the area of memorabilia rather than cards, but a few years back the item below came up for auction on eBay - it sold for $400. I contacted the buyer and did a little research to determine that it was a charm given to the Frankford Athletic Association committees that were involved in running the Frankford Yellow Jackets football club. When the Yellow Jackets won the 1926 NFL Championship the players were given very nice Illinois watches, but apparently committee members were given this charm. Not long after it was resold on Mastronet for $1,400 - I always regretted not digging a little deeper when it was on eBay.





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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 12:21 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

cool piece rev!

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 2:17 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Generally I collect only paper items, but I do have this charm which was made of anthracite coal and given to the members of the Pottsville Maroons in 1928 - a year when they had three future HOF players but posted the worst record in the short history of the franschise.



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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 3:27 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great "Fats" Henry piece!

I love vintage gems like that. I always am tempted to buy things like that when I see them, but I am always concerned with authenticity..so I pass on them. Coo Stuff!

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Date Posted: Nov/16/2008 3:55 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Great stuff guys! I am loving all the action this thread is getting- just gotta love this stuff!!!!!!!!!

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Date Posted: Nov/17/2008 7:50 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I also like to collect the older programs - no questions of authenticity there, at least - here's my latest find - it's from the Giants first win at home.



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Date Posted: Nov/17/2008 7:53 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

This is another favorite of mine -



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Date Posted: Nov/17/2008 10:29 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

What a great piece of history with the breadline game. Might we see that next football season? I sure hope not, but it showed how American society came together during a crisis. My dad grew up in the depression (just turned 85) and thinks we're all a bunch on whiners! He says we have no idea what hard times really mean.

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Date Posted: Nov/17/2008 11:54 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

The game I heard about my whole life growing up was at the Polo Grounds on December 7, 1941 - my parents were in the stands and remembered how there were announcements throughout the game recalling military personnell to their units - but no one knew there had been an attack at Pearl Harbor until they left the game.



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Date Posted: Nov/17/2008 12:12 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Looking at programs that relate to dark days in American history - this game between the Giants and the Cardinals was played two days after the assassination of President Kennedy - many people thought it should have been canceled. The New York Times later reported: With the N.F.L. schedule of games less than 48 hours away, Commissioner Pete Rozelle had to make a decision on whether to play those games. With the approval of the Kennedy family, he chose to go ahead with the full schedule. Rozelle often acknowledged that to be his biggest mistake during what was an illustrious career in building the N.F.L.'s popularity.



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Date Posted: Nov/17/2008 12:17 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

One last cover - the NFL did not forget the mistake it made the weekend after the Kennedy assassination, so the Giants game scheduled for September 16, 2001 was canceled - as were all NFL games, I believe



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Date Posted: Nov/18/2008 12:48 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Picked up this beauty today.



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Date Posted: Nov/18/2008 2:42 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very nice Van Buren! It dont get much better than that!!!!!!

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Date Posted: Nov/18/2008 11:20 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

A few more from my collection:



Growing up I really liked the Redskins and remember the battle between Kilmer and Jurgensen. Sam Huff = Tuff! Can't go wrong with the Golden Boy. Schmidt - one of many prematurely balding HOF linebackers



"Keep on matriculating the ball down the field", I love the fact that Maynard played in the 1958 championship game for the Giants. Great Unitas - is he wired up or what? Dandy Don and MNF are two great memories of my youth.



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Date Posted: Nov/18/2008 11:38 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

why does every pic ever made of bowmans and painting of steve van buren look like hes gonna spontaniously combust,or have to go poop

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Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 12:20 AM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

just bought this from kruk cards today:




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Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 3:32 PM
Posted By: bigfische (Collector)

Not all of these are new, but i just scanned some cards. Not the high grade, but that suits me fine.







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Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 3:37 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice selection of 51's BigFische! Thanks for the scans, the Van Brocklin rookie looks sweet!

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Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 3:43 PM
Posted By: Mphilking (Collector)

BigDaddyBowman,
That 51 Bowman Van Buren is absolutely SPECTACULAR! WOW!



Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 4:48 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< BigDaddyBowman,
That 51 Bowman Van Buren is absolutely SPECTACULAR! WOW!
>>




Thanks..it is my highest graded vintage card..and I just love it!

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Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 6:32 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

That '51 Layne is one of my favorites. Looks like they made him do a baseball throw. If he tried to throw a heavy old football like that he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. Or maybe he's waiving at the bartender for another round?

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Date Posted: Nov/19/2008 6:35 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Let's keep it going with another Doak:





Date Posted: Nov/20/2008 11:07 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Not the best looking 7 but for a 1/3 of SMR I figured why not...Another SP for my set! 40+ % There!!!!!!!!









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Date Posted: Nov/20/2008 2:31 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

Last few cards to share:



Taylor's true rookie card IMO. Best PSA 5 in my collection, I keep looking from a micro wrinkle on Johnny, but I can't find one. Sir Francis scrambling in the snows of Minnesota - 70s football at its best. Otto pre 00.



Best Brown I own and just beautiful - stud football and lacrosse player. Nitschke, need I say more! Read North Dallas Forty and see if you can figure out which character is Lilly - he must have been cold all the time.

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 8:02 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I have been working on getting some Giants cards up on their Wiki website

I'm looking for a scan of the Benny Friedman Star Candy card to add - or if anyone knows of other early cards, I'd like to include them. I do not have either of those Spalding cards - Koppisch or Friedman - but I did pick up that Koppisch strip card for just a few dollars on eBay recently.



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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 8:53 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Got this in the mail today..used the mslive rebate..saved 50 bucks. I know these are curse words around here, but I love the SGC holders...cards just "pop" in them! This one might be going back to SGC..looks like a 7!



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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 9:13 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice card Ryan, I dont think the SGC holders are taboo by any stretch, in fact I like their look better than the PSA holders, but I am a firm believer that they hold more value with PSA and I like the set registry as well.

As far as that card goes the centering is near perfect! The left bottom edge looks like it has a small indent in it? The white boarders are a little dark as well, maybe thats why its not a 7- either way a very nice card. Congrats on your new pick up!

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 9:46 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice card Ryan, I dont think the SGC holders are taboo by any stretch, in fact I like their look better than the PSA holders, but I am a firm believer that they hold more value with PSA and I like the set registry as well.

As far as that card goes the centering is near perfect! The left bottom edge looks like it has a small indent in it? The white boarders are a little dark as well, maybe thats why its not a 7- either way a very nice card. Congrats on your new pick up!
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Thanks Paul. I love the card.
Actually that is fine with me. If the PSA drones are willing to pay a premium for a card because it is in a PSA holder..than let them. So, if this same exact card is in a PSA holder, it sells for more...than great for me. I will keep buying SGC and let the drones pay that premium for PSA. The same card in different holders is the same card to me! I would rather pay less. The registry has inflated prices for PSA cards...and I believe that many of those PSA prices are indeed just that..inflated. Over time, not sure if the inflated prices will hold..we shall see. I just chuckle at guys who won't buy a card that isn't in a certain holder...seems so foolish to me....buy the card..not the holder. As you know, I buy too many of both PSA and SGC...and I enjoy both. For those who won't touch an SGC....makes it all the better for me!

The Van Brocklin card is magnificant for a 6...PSA or SGC. No indentation by the way...I have a mag. lens that I use.



I will take the SGC graded 6 any day!



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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 11:40 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

i think the scg one looks better myself

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 11:52 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan no doubt about it buying the card not the holder. Myself ( weve talked about this before ) and many others would agree that the grading standards between both companies are acceptable for many high end collections however the problem with SGC is as always the centering allowed by them- many times cards labled SGC 7 or 8 are poorly centered, I know pretty much all of your SGC cards are very nice for the grade so it isnt much of an issue with you. Dont get me wrong no grading company is spot on every time but as long as the eye appeal is good enough for the buyer then it is all good!

Judging the two cards you posted I think the SGC is a much better looking card!

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 11:56 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Here are some scans of what Im talking about, dont get me wrong PSA makes some bad calls themselves but this Art Donovan card might be one of the worst I have seen!



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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 12:24 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

my opinion on the centering issue is that PSA gives an OC qualifier..yet is inconsitant with it. SGC does not give qualifiers..they let the buyer decide centering based on eye appeal...which I prefer.

Why didn't this get an OC qualifier??


I don't need an "OC" on the flip to tell me that its an ugly card. I made the mistake of buying it sight unseen..the last time I will ever do that.

An OC qualifier is a death sentence to most cards...how many times have you seen a OC qualified card that still has great eye appeal...I have seen alot. Paul, you have hunted for 52 Large high and low...how many PSA's have you come across that have terrible centering and not receive the OC qualifer? Its too hit and miss for my liking.

Why bother with an OC qualifier?


what the heck's the difference?









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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 12:28 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Here are some scans of what Im talking about, dont get me wrong PSA makes some bad calls themselves but this Art Donovan card might be one of the worst I have seen!

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But Paul...your missing the point....I agree those SGC's are off centered..but SGC does not give an OC qualifier. They have perfectly centered 8's and very off center 8's, but if you look at the surface gloss, the corners, they are always consistant in my opinion. With Psa, you can get a PSA 6 and PSA 6 OC and tehy look the same! thats a problem to me.

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 12:36 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

What about this one???

if that SGC Donovan is one of the worst..this PSA might be THE worst.





hmm......no OC qualifier! I guess it must be well centered then!

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 12:39 PM
Posted By: Fabfrank (Expert Collector)

BigDaddy- I hear your pain. But to answer your question, many people submit cards asking for No qualifiers. That's how you get an 8OC card into a straight 6 slab. It seems PSA will deduct to grades for a card that should be qualified

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 12:50 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< BigDaddy- I hear your pain. But to answer your question, many people submit cards asking for No qualifiers. That's how you get an 8OC card into a straight 6 slab. It seems PSA will deduct to grades for a card that should be qualified >>


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I understand that..and that is my point exactly. SGC grades the card..corners, surface, gloss, etc pretty consistently IMO, a 7 is a 7 no matter what the centering is. Look at the card...if the centering is appealing to you..add it to your collection. If not pass.

Don't tell me the same card is a 7 OC and a 5 ..that is ridiculous IMO. So the Connor I posted above could have been a PSA 7 OC....thats ridiculous.


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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 1:21 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<<

<< BigDaddy- I hear your pain. But to answer your question, many people submit cards asking for No qualifiers. That's how you get an 8OC card into a straight 6 slab. It seems PSA will deduct to grades for a card that should be qualified >>


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I understand that..and that is my point exactly. SGC grades the card..corners, surface, gloss, etc pretty consistently IMO, a 7 is a 7 no matter what the centering is. Look at the card...if the centering is appealing to you..add it to your collection. If not pass.

Don't tell me the same card is a 7 and a 5 OC..that is ridiculous IMO. So the Connor I posted above could have been a PSA 7 OC....thats ridiculous.
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Regarding that Connor card you posted no way that would get a 7 OC due to the soft corner and print defects IMO. Like Frank said PSA does allow submitters to request NO QUALIFIERS but they knock a card down 2 grades with them so many people prefer the grade to be a straight grade, that is why you will see cards like that Graham given straight grades. Believe me Ryan you know Im not bashing SGC as I like their holders and respect them as a big time grading company. I am not saying PSA is without faults- You and I both checked out a large collection of '52's that were poorly centered and low end for the grade so maybe Im out of line throwing the "OC" thing at you about SGC but can we both agree that regarding RESALE value the card is better off in a PSA slab?

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 2:28 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Girls, Girls!!! come on now!

Ive see crap psa 8 cards, and Ive seen crap SGC 88 cards.

I prefer the look of the SGC slab, but I prefer the PSA registry (and chat boards for that matter)

Neither grading company is without their faults, and both definately have their strengths

blah blah blah. Ryan summed it up well, buy the cards you like, in the quality you like, in the holder you like. We ALL love football cards, thats whats important here ladies!

Oh, and to keep the thread on track:



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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 2:33 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Joe- AKa "BIG BROTHER KEEPING THE PEACE" - Your spot on, we do love our football cards

Very nice '62 there JS! I know those are super tough with the black borders.


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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 3:42 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< You and I both checked out a large collection of '52's that were poorly centered and low end for the grade so maybe Im out of line throwing the "OC" thing at you about SGC but can we both agree that regarding RESALE value the card is better off in a PSA slab? >>



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If I bought to RESELL, then I would only buy PSA...but I buy to COLLECT... which to me is a huge difference. If Card A in a SGC slab is identical in every way to CARD B in a PSA slab...but Card A is cheaper..then I am buying card A every time. I will let my kids worry about resale value, when I am 6 feet under. With that said, when I have upgraded cards, and sold off SGC cards, I have never lost money on them...which is what matters most to me. Maybe I could have gotten a few more dollars in PSA...it doesn't bother me.

I do agree with Paul that in most cases PSA out sells SGC because of demand. There are more PSA only guys (I will refrain from using the term drones this time) in the market which is going to cause more competition. The set registry has caused collectors to go crazy with some prices. With that said, I also believe that if a SGC card is sold the right way and the seller is patient, you will fetch similar if not more than PSA. I have had to pay high dollar for many SGC cards because of a bidding war, which ended up being more than what I could have picked up the card in PSA. What I find is that the potential deal is out there more with SGC because of lesser demand..which is fine by me.


P.S. Joe do not insult Perk and I by calling us "girls." We both have earned the respect to be called "Ladies!"


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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 6:06 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Another one from the SGC side of the street:





Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 6:29 PM
Posted By: bigfische (Collector)

That is one fine Van Brocklin!

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 11/22/2008 18:30:18|U



Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 6:44 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< That is one fine Van Brocklin! >>




Which one?

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 6:52 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)



<< hmm......no OC qualifier! I guess it must be well centered then! >>



No, it just means that the submitter probably requested no qualifiers. Has he not done that it would likely have been a 9OC.

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 7:30 PM
Posted By: bigfische (Collector)



<<

<< That is one fine Van Brocklin! >>




Which one?
>>



To much good stuff in this thread!

(sgc)

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Date Posted: Nov/22/2008 7:38 PM
Posted By: effe (Member)

Just in from the Sun Times show in Chicago


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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 11:01 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Bumped for Sunday!

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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 11:03 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Nice Hutson..its really a shame that there are not more football issues of him...and that greats like Hutson have only 1 mainsteam card. I know he has some wheaties cards..but thats all I know of.

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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 11:09 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Nice Hutson..its really a shame that there are not more football issues of him...and that greats like Hutson have only 1 mainsteam card. I know he has some wheaties cards..but thats all I know of. >>




Another big shame is Marion Motley only has 3 cards! Could you imagine him on a 52 Large Ryan? He would fit that card just right!

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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 11:22 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I think the guy who makes custom cards shouild make one of Motley. Mtoley's would be 52 XL for sure!

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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 12:03 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Nice Hutson..its really a shame that there are not more football issues of him...and that greats like Hutson have only 1 mainsteam card. I know he has some wheaties cards..but thats all I know of. >>



This is the only other card of him Ive ever seen, and that was just recently.



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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 5:37 PM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

I love the look of that Wheaties card. That one is a real beauty! Thanks for sharing.




Robert

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 11/23/2008 17:41:08|U



Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 6:28 PM
Posted By: goraiders (Collector)

Great cards,just wanted to get rid of the 666 posting.

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1958 Topps FB-7-8



Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 7:23 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Great cards,just wanted to get rid of the 666 posting. >>




That is funny chit! I wanted to post but did NOT want to be the #6-6 poster

Nice work!

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Date Posted: Nov/23/2008 7:37 PM
Posted By: daddymc (Expert Collector)

I've been trying to focus on baseball, but I think I may have inadvertantly started down the vintage football path tonight with this purchase. Too good a deal to pass up.

1963 Unitas #1 - PSA 6

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Date Posted: Nov/24/2008 6:00 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< I've been trying to focus on baseball, but I think I may have inadvertantly started down the vintage football path tonight with this purchase. Too good a deal to pass up.

1963 Unitas #1 - PSA 6
>>




Nice looking card! Be aware thats how it starts.. you make one innocent little purchase then all of a sudden your an addict like the rest of us here!


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Date Posted: Nov/24/2008 11:14 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Randy is the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A nice upgrade for my set thanks to Randy..

BTW- Is this not just a great looking Football card?




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Date Posted: Nov/24/2008 4:32 PM
Posted By: daddymc (Expert Collector)



<<

<< I've been trying to focus on baseball, but I think I may have inadvertantly started down the vintage football path tonight with this purchase. Too good a deal to pass up.

1963 Unitas #1 - PSA 6
>>




Nice looking card! Be aware thats how it starts.. you make one innocent little purchase then all of a sudden your an addict like the rest of us here!
>>



That's what I am afraid of. I started looking through the SMR last night at the '63 set. Looks like it can be built fairly easily at a decent price in mid grade PSA 6 - PSA 7. Oh no... I think it's started.

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Date Posted: Nov/24/2008 7:27 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Got this in the mail today, which brings me to about 90% of the way through the 57 topps set. If anyone has these cards below in psa 8 to help a brother out, it twould be much appreciated. Basically all the high numbered cards, I've heard they're the easy ones.

92 stautner
104 Morrall
116 Moegle
118 Hart
127 Modzelewski
136 Ulrich
144 Macafee
150 david
152 Younger
153 Svoboda
154 Morrison
and the Bazooka checklist (psa 5 or so would do)



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Date Posted: Nov/24/2008 7:31 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Oh yea really easy! Didnt that Ulrich card fetch over a grand recently? You know there is a sore loser out there waiting to pounce on that one when it pops up again.

As always great looking cards J!

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Date Posted: Nov/24/2008 8:50 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Oh yea really easy! Didnt that Ulrich card fetch over a grand recently? You know there is a sore loser out there waiting to pounce on that one when it pops up again.

As always great looking cards J!
>>



The little wink thing at the end of my request Perk, it means sarcasm!! Wink wink, tongue in cheek, just kidding. etc........ Look it up man, you should try it sometime!




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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 11:20 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

Anybody have any theories WHY Motley was skipped in the 1952 Bowman set?

With the help of the regulars, or even occasional visitors, on this thread, I'm proposing we do a group effort and create a '52B Motley card.

We get one person to provide a suitable picture, another to do the back write-up and a third to provide the secondary graphic elements. I'll do the compiling and printing. Each of the three other principal contributors will get 1/4 of the initial production (I print on 8-card sheets, so that's 2 apiece). Others will be able to get a copy for a modest charge.

I'm not the greatest custom-card creator working out here, but I do have some standards. So, here's what I'd be looking for . . .

Picture: Since '52 Bowmans were art cards, we need a non-photgraphic color picture of Motley. (My card-making skills don't allow me to convert a photo to artwork.) A quick search on eBay showed a couple of possibilities, like a Hall of Fame card, etc. Nothing too stylized, as the Bowman originals were pretty like-life. I'll need to get either the loan of the actual card or a 300 dpi scan. I'd prefer not to simply pick up the art from his 1951 card, but that may have to be a fallback position.

Back write-up: About 120 words. We can go one of two ways, either a faux-1952 version, covering just his career through 1951, or a version summarizing his entire career. A minor detail . . . we need the city/state of his residence, which was probably on the back of his 1951 or 1953 card.

Secondary graphics: I need a "background" for the front. This can get tricky, since it has to be one from which I can remove the existing player and replace him (with some Photoshop diddling) with Motley's picture. Best sources of these would be other 1950-52 Bowman football cards. That blue sky and clouds background on the Eddie Price card above would be one possibility. For this I think we should post the possibles on the thread and let everybody give an opinion. The "winner" here will be person who can provide either the loan of the card in question, or a 300 dpi scan. This person will also need to provide a scan of the Browns logo from a 1951-52 Bowman.

I'll have to set myself up as the final arbiter for selections and "winners," but this is designed to be a "community builder," so everybody's participation is welcome.

For the Motley picture and the background possibilities, please post what you can provide on this thread. For the back write-up, please PM your work to me.

Let's all have a good time with this and come up with a nice product and tribute to this all-time great.


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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:03 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

AUPT..count me in to help!

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:19 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

freshly back from my PSA freebie submission:

this one which gets me down to 2 that I need to finish the set in 8 or above:



and these two I listed on eBay a couple of days ago that were extras:



I have the last two I need in grading now, hopefully I will get lucky.

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:23 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Bob, great idea and ofcourse I am in!!!!!!!! I will PM you with some stuff that hopefully you will like and or be able to use.

Im on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:24 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Before I get into that, heres a quick one I just p[icked up for ridiculas short money




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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:30 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Wow, it's impossible to keep up with Perkdog! You're adding cards at an unbelievable pace, man...how close are you to finishing your set?



Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:36 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I scanned this from a book...hope it helps..







I love this pic!...I might just need to make it my new avatar!

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:37 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Wow, it's impossible to keep up with Perkdog! You're adding cards at an unbelievable pace, man...how close are you to finishing your set? >>



Thanks man! Unfortunately Im only about 41%, I recently went a bit crazy after the three set breaks became available, I had to though in order to scoop up some seriously tough cards. I planned on taking a break and waiting until after the first of the year before buying any more cards but these last few cards ( Heath & Standlee ) I put really lowbids on and ended up winning them but other than that I plan on reloading the funds before I make anymore headway into the set.

This set is a huge task, I wont be done with it for a very long time.

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:46 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Heres one I found..




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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 12:49 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Here's another cool one from the book..since I was scanning Motley, thought I would put a pic of 2 of my all-time favs to collect Bulldog Turner and Sid Luckman



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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 7:00 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Cool pics of Motley! Here are two larges I just picked up:





Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 7:03 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Wow that Walston is stunning! Why the 4?

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Date Posted: Nov/25/2008 7:22 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



<< Wow that Walston is stunning! Why the 4? >>



There's a hairline crease under his right armpit/shoulder...



Date Posted: Nov/26/2008 10:10 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Got these in today...







These are upgrades so I have an SGC 7 Groza, SGC 6 Baugh and PSA 6 Hirsch available for sale or trade if anyone is interested.

I have been kicking around the idea of building this set in SGC as well as the 48 set that I have been working on ....gotta stop the urge...gotta stop the urge...

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Date Posted: Nov/26/2008 10:18 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice stuff Ryan! I think it would be awesome to put together the 51 set, I think that is a gorgeous set that gets overlooked, the artwork is just as nice as the the 50 and 52 set, I think it actually has even more detail than the 52 set to be honest, centering as usual is tough as well as gum & wax stains on the backs. Go for it! It is relatively inexpensive too.

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Date Posted: Nov/26/2008 10:43 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice stuff Ryan! I think it would be awesome to put together the 51 set, I think that is a gorgeous set that gets overlooked, the artwork is just as nice as the the 50 and 52 set, I think it actually has even more detail than the 52 set to be honest, centering as usual is tough as well as gum & wax stains on the backs. Go for it! It is relatively inexpensive too. >>




I know your motivation Perk!...SURE....you want me to divert my attention and $$ away from 52 Large to the 51 Bowman...hmm..I wonder why?? LOL I agree, the artwork and eye appeal of the 51's are probably the finest of the Bowman issues...too bad they didn't make a 51 large edition...wow....that would be killer!

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Date Posted: Nov/26/2008 2:04 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Couple things Ryan-

#1- Your spot on! I definately dont want you bidding on 52 psa 7's
#2-Dont you have like 50% completion of EVERY Bowman set already? Whats another 50% of the 51 set?
#3-For some funny reason all those cards you posted are very nicely centered-you know, for SGC holders

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Date Posted: Nov/26/2008 3:59 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Couple things Ryan-

#1- Your spot on! I definately dont want you bidding on 52 psa 7's
#2-Dont you have like 50% completion of EVERY Bowman set already? Whats another 50% of the 51 set?
#3-For some funny reason all those cards you posted are very nicely centered-you know, for SGC holders
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#1 I thought so!
#2 your way off..I have most of the HOFers/Rookies/minor stars..but almost no commons, so I only have probably 20%-30% of each or so of each year
#3 My Momma taught me that if "I dont have anything nice to say..don't say it" So I will bite my tongue on this one

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Date Posted: Nov/29/2008 2:01 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Today's mail...



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Date Posted: Nov/29/2008 9:21 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Attempt at a 52 Bowman Large Marion Motley
Its hard finding any pics to use.





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Date Posted: Nov/29/2008 10:53 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

that is a sweet motley, he was a monster!!!!!!!

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"1952 TOPPS REGISTRY AUTO SET"



Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 7:31 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< that is a sweet motley, he was a monster!!!!!!! >>




Talk about meat hooks! Look at his forearm, you definately would not want to get swatted by that!

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 7:32 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

him and clayton bigsby wuld be good friends
i want one

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 7:32 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I see Ryan has graduated from PSA 7 to PSA 8! Nice looking Army Davis!

Here are a few more that again I was able to get for short money..




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Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 8:52 AM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

700.

Oh, and nice cards everyone.

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 9:03 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< 700.

Oh, and nice cards everyone.
>>




Good to see ya stopping in Nick

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 9:18 AM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)



<< Good to see ya stopping in Nick >>



Occasionally I keep an eye on this thread since there are some great cards to be seen, but with me being mostly a baseball card guy I, unfortunately, never have anything to add.

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Date Posted: Nov/30/2008 9:19 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< I see Ryan has graduated from PSA 7 to PSA 8! Nice looking Army Davis!

Here are a few more that again I was able to get for short money..

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Damn Paul you are cruising along with the 52 Large set. What a thing of beauty that set will be!

I only buy 8's when I can get them for a reasonable price. I never even bothered looking at 8's before...but with the cashback offer..it has made it so much more affordable. Most of the recent ones I have picked up were for about $150...not bad for 8's in alost 60 year old sets.

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Date Posted: Dec/01/2008 10:48 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Today was a very Baugh'd day...Bad in a GOOD way...






This one has alluded me for a long time...for some reason it is not available for sale much in 7 or above. Glad I was able to get at a bargain price.


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Date Posted: Dec/01/2008 11:02 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

great Baughs!!

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Date Posted: Dec/02/2008 11:54 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

thanks rex...Sammy is my favorite player to collect.


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Date Posted: Dec/02/2008 1:01 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I've been trying to find some of the football cards from the 1926 Spalding set, and this one was up for sale - George "Wildcat" Wilson, who led a team out of Los Angeles for the American Football League created by CC Pyle and Red Grange in 1926. When that first AFL folded Wilson played three years for the Providence Steam Roller team and led them to their only NFL Championship in 1928.



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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 3:02 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

Hey Guys!

How did our beloved "Vintage Football" fall to page three?

Are we all tapped out on funds and not buying any new cards?



How about I send us back to the top with my latest pick up for my 57 set.




I liberated this beauty from its plastic prison for my raw set. Its obviously PSA missed the grade on this card.
After close inspection there is no doubt the card is at least a 7, maybe better. Eitherway Im proud to now have it as part of my 57 Raw set!

John

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 3:05 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

John, I saw that card in your other thread, and agree that is is surely PSA 7 + worthy! Sweet looking card!



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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 3:14 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Heres a neat item I picked up while slumming for '52 Football- a 49'ers vs Lions 1952 Game Program.

Cool pics/advertisements... should be a fun read.








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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 3:16 PM
Posted By: BunchOBull (Master Collector)

I don't know why, but I find myself checking this thread every time I see it. This has got to stop...I am not a football collector.

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 3:21 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< This has got to stop...I am not a football collector. >>




yet

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 6:00 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I enjoy the older programs - this is one of my favorite with autographs



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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 6:50 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great pickup Perk! you can pick up many programs dirt cheap. Share some pics of more of the inside when you get it...




Rev-You have so many great pieces..I would love to see your collection. I have seen alot of it on the net54 board as well....keep posting! I almost bought that Wilson Spalding Champions card off ebay.....I was gunshy..when i went back to look at it, it was gone...and now I see where. Glad it found a good home in your collection!

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 6:52 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< I don't know why, but I find myself checking this thread every time I see it. This has got to stop...I am not a football collector. >>




thats how it starts......just a peak or two into the vintage football world...and BOOM..your a hardcore addict. Be careful...Be very careful!

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 7:20 PM
Posted By: rbdjr1 (Expert Collector)





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Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971




Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 7:37 PM
Posted By: rbdjr1 (Expert Collector)









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Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968

Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971


 12/03/2008 19:39:26|U



Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 7:42 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Holy Cow!! You could shave with that Bradshaw! Talk about razor sharp.

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 7:48 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

Wow, great stuff, guys. This whole page is terrific.

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 7:50 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

Oops, new page. The last whole page was terrific!

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 7:54 PM
Posted By: rbdjr1 (Expert Collector)




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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 8:01 PM
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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 8:04 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Holy Cow!! You could shave with that Bradshaw! Talk about razor sharp. >>



Yes Ryan the only thing is that "Shave" would run you prolly more than 5K

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Date Posted: Dec/03/2008 8:23 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< I enjoy the older programs - this is one of my favorite with autographs

>>



Awesome Mel Hein. I'm partial because he graduated from WSU. Big #7 is a charter member of the HOF.

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Date Posted: Dec/04/2008 8:57 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I was finally able to complete the Chicle R 311 set - the two I had the most trouble finding were the first and last ones listed - Joe Bach and Ace Gutowsky (The Greatest Tackle).



These photos were available when you handed in 20 wrappers from the 1935 National Chicle Football Stars set.



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Date Posted: Dec/04/2008 12:07 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)



<< >>



being from Shreveport, LA (Terry's hometown) and an ex La Tech Bulldog I am insanely jealous.

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Date Posted: Dec/04/2008 1:56 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

live.com cashback as helped me get some great cards recently:






Maybe because I was a center in high school, I have an affection for these cards..you gotta love em. The Bulldog Turner card is no doubt one of my all-time favorites.

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Date Posted: Dec/04/2008 11:07 PM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)

Wow, this really is the best thread around. My goal is to have something worthy to post in 2009. Keep up the great work, guys!


Robert

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2008 3:28 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Love that 30% cashback!.....I am almost glad that they lowered it the last few days...it helps me resist the temptation!

one for the set....I will be using the SGC crossover special for this one...


I have been looking for this Les Horvath for a long time now. I needed it for the set, but also wanted it for personal reasons. Last year, I inducted Les Horvath into my high schools Athletic Hall of Fame. Too bad he is deceased and it was in memoriam. Another inductee, Bob Brugge also played on the same Ohio State team as Horvath...both winning the national championship. Pretty cool, two guys who grew up a street away from each other end up going to Ohio State together. Both went on to play pro ball. Horvath with the Rams, Brugge got drafted by the bears of the NFL and Browns of the AAFC.



I will not declare that this one is for the set..because I havn't officialy decided to take that leap ...yet!


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Date Posted: Dec/05/2008 9:26 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

A little vintage football trivia....

Who is the only player to be a first round draft pick...3 times????


hint: he is one of my all-time favorites to collect...

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2008 9:28 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

sammy baugh ?

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2008 10:15 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< sammy baugh ? >>



Sammy is my all-time favorite to collect...but nope...not Sammy.

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Date Posted: Dec/05/2008 10:17 PM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

i have exausted all my brain power allotted to me for tonight ryan

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Date Posted: Dec/06/2008 6:00 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

It is said that Y.A. Tittle was the only player in pro football history to be drafted in the first round three times - but check out this thread

Professional Research Football Association

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Date Posted: Dec/06/2008 6:10 PM
Posted By: wolfbear (Expert Collector)


Fantastic cards!
Could we have some more please?



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Date Posted: Dec/06/2008 6:29 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< It is said that Y.A. Tittle was the only player in pro football history to be drafted in the first round three times - but check out this thread

Professional Research Football Association
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Rev..you are corrrect!
Tittle was drafted first round in AAFC By Browns...but "given" to Colts, Drafted in NFL by Lions, and when AAFC merged with NFL, he was drafted #1 by 49ers....(this info comes from the book "The Million Dollar Backfield")

which leads me to today's mailday....



(I have a PSA 6 of 55 Tittle now available for sale or trade)


Got another Baugh Beauty in the mail today....(thank you MS live Cashback!)




which will be crossed to SGC to go along with Bronko...



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Date Posted: Dec/06/2008 6:51 PM
Posted By: wolfbear (Expert Collector)


Aweosme! Thanks for the scans ...



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Date Posted: Dec/06/2008 9:38 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice stuff Ryan, crazy question though.. Those Dixie Lids, does one side look all mesed up from where it touched the ice cream? ( I assume ice cream lids ) I have never seen one in hand.

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Date Posted: Dec/06/2008 11:01 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice stuff Ryan, crazy question though.. Those Dixie Lids, does one side look all mesed up from where it touched the ice cream? ( I assume ice cream lids ) I have never seen one in hand. >>


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Here is what the backs looks like:



There are small lids and lids slightly bigger. These are the small lids.

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Date Posted: Dec/07/2008 1:05 PM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

I made a nice find at the antique mall on Friday. Among the usual overpriced Packers, Braves, Brewers, yearbooks and programs usually found here in Wis., I found the 1959 PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL ANNUAL by Grosset and Dunlap.

It's 120 pages with really thick board covers, almost like a hardbound book. All the interior pages are black and white. For each team there is a pre-season roster and four pages of player pix, three per page. The pix look like something from each team's PR department. A few of them I recognize from Topps cards of the era, but most are new to me. The Jim Brown pix looks to me like an outtake from the photo session that resulted in his 1958 rookie card.

The binding is intact, but kind of fragile, so I don't want to bend the pages to do many scans, but I had to share a few.









I didn't really NEED this for my own collection, but thought I might as well pick it up for $15. I love the old names and faces from the 1950s-60s football cards. There's a couple of pages of coach's photos/bios (Vince Lombardi's "rookie" year in GB) and predictions, 1958 stats, TV skeds, etc. Hey, did you know the Chicago Cardinals played a couple of games in Minnesota in 1959?

Anyway, thought you'd enjoy it.


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Date Posted: Dec/07/2008 4:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thanks for the back scans of the lids- very neat! Also great that they are not stained with 70 year old ice cream! LOL


Bob, that book is awesome- I am going to start picking up more stuff like that to expand my collection a little bit more than just cards. You just cant beat that artwork on that cover! If you scroll back a few I recently purchased a decent game program from the early 1950's.

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Date Posted: Dec/07/2008 5:13 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

That Lew Carpenter photo sure looks a lot like his 59 Topps football card. It's not quite the same image, though: his right hand and the football are in slightly different positions.



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Date Posted: Dec/08/2008 8:14 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Got this magazine in the mail today. Its the 1943 Pro Football illustrated. I have a few other of these from later 40's..they are really cool. This is from the WWII era....real interesting read.









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Date Posted: Dec/08/2008 10:29 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< That Lew Carpenter photo sure looks a lot like his 59 Topps football card. It's not quite the same image, though: his right hand and the football are in slightly different positions.

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>>



that is interesting.

Latest mailbox treasure.



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Date Posted: Dec/09/2008 2:04 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)



<< Heres a neat item I picked up while slumming for '52 Football- a 49'ers vs Lions 1952 Game Program.

Cool pics/advertisements... should be a fun read.






>>



Great publications. I collect these too. And once you start buying them, there's no stopping.....

Check out the Niners page. It's looks like the Hugh McElhenny photo might have been used for his '53 Bowman card.



Rich



Date Posted: Dec/09/2008 6:05 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

YEs it does- The Buddy Parker and Jim Martin are the EXACT same photos used for their '52 cards as well.

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Date Posted: Dec/09/2008 12:07 PM
Posted By: rbdjr1 (Expert Collector)


newbie

rd




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Date Posted: Dec/10/2008 2:11 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

It's another "Sammy" Day....
(once again thanks mslive cashback!)




now have a SGC 5 for sale or trade if anyone has interest.

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Date Posted: Dec/10/2008 4:46 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Right now Im eating my words Ryan, do you know why? Because Im absolutely enraged looking at that Small Baugh card and comparing it to SEVERAL of my cards that got shot down on the .5 bump up attempt. Im not kidding either- no offense as the picture itself is stunning with bold color and contrast but the corners and centering are worse than a few of my cards that got denied because of a "Minor" soft corner or "Not centered well enough"

Edit- Its funny because I bet that card wouldnt cross to an SGC holder.


Again please dont take offense- Im just really annoyed that my Graham and Gifford card ( That you have seen ) didnt get the love that that card got.

Plus I know you well enough that I can vent like this

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Date Posted: Dec/10/2008 6:08 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Right now Im eating my words Ryan, do you know why? Because Im absolutely enraged looking at that Small Baugh card and comparing it to SEVERAL of my cards that got shot down on the .5 bump up attempt. Im not kidding either- no offense as the picture itself is stunning with bold color and contrast but the corners and centering are worse than a few of my cards that got denied because of a "Minor" soft corner or "Not centered well enough"

Edit- Its funny because I bet that card wouldnt cross to an SGC holder.


Again please dont take offense- Im just really annoyed that my Graham and Gifford card ( That you have seen ) didnt get the love that that card got.

Plus I know you well enough that I can vent like this
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The corners on my Baugh appear worse on the scan for some reason.....but I agree with the centering. Here it is with a black background..they look a little better...to the eye they look sharper.



No doubt PSA inconsistancy at its finest! SGC has a $6 crossover special this month..if you are interested

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Date Posted: Dec/11/2008 2:15 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I am always trying to pick up the Chicles...





doubt that I will ever be able to complete the set though.

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Date Posted: Dec/12/2008 12:06 PM
Posted By: rbdjr1 (Expert Collector)



rd












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Date Posted: Dec/12/2008 12:42 PM
Posted By: rbdjr1 (Expert Collector)



He practiced defensive Law!

rd



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Date Posted: Dec/14/2008 6:54 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Im really excited about this purchase- a hardcover book from 1953 on Pro Football, Im finding these are a great addition to my Football cards!






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Date Posted: Dec/14/2008 8:29 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

That looks Really cool Paul...and with Dust JAcket..sweet!

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Date Posted: Dec/16/2008 5:17 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Perkdog did a little convincing..his recommendation pushed me over the edge. I have now officially started to build the 51 Bowman set.

Thanks to Justcollect and their 5 star shipping rates!

(of course it would have been wiser to complete my 48 set before starting another...but oh well!)

Anybody have any graded 51's in 6-8 range they want to trade?






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Date Posted: Dec/16/2008 7:12 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very nice Ryan! I cannot wait to start picking stuff up again!!!!!!

That Canadeo card is my fav!

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Date Posted: Dec/16/2008 7:53 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

56 Topps, one of my favorite sets.

Hey, I just noticed this was my 1000th post!!



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Date Posted: Dec/16/2008 8:55 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

DELETE

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Date Posted: Dec/16/2008 9:09 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

My 57 Set is growing! Just picked up this Jewel for next to nothing.




Still looking for alot more 57's. NMish Centered. I will also break the slabs on top end 6's and 7's.
I have the following 55 All Americans for possible trade if anybody has any interest.




Them old Magazines are SO COOL! That Baugh Cover on the 43 Pro Football Illustrated is Killer! Man... How Big was Baugh?
He looks like a big SOB in that cover pic. That is an absolutely steller Pose.

John

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2008 1:58 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I just got in my first issue of my subscription to Gridiron Greats Magazine- not to mention about 5 back issues, what a GREAT MAGAZINE!

I highly reccomend any of you guys ordering it! Im glad I finnaly took Ryans advice!

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2008 9:31 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Its about time you listen to me about something!

My subscription just ran out so I have to renew..thanks for reminding me!

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Date Posted: Dec/17/2008 9:35 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Interesting read from net54 board...thought I would pass it on....thanks Ted... hope you don't mind me sharing your work.


1949 BUBBLE GUM card Wars......Bowman vs Leaf December 17 2008, 8:01 PM


Warren Bowman would sue anyone (or anything) at the drop of a dime. Early in 1949 the Bowman
Gum Co. took the Leaf Gum Co. to court over the use of words "BASEBALL BUBBLE GUM" on Leaf's
wrapper.
Bowman had copyrighted this saying on their 1948 wrapper. The litigation then expanded over the
contractual rights to portray BB players in their sets. The rights to portray Joe DiMaggio, Satchel
Paige, and other major stars were part of this dispute.

Bowman won the BB card "war" and Leaf was forced to discontinue portraying BB players. Bowman's
concession to Leaf was that Leaf could issue their FB set and Bowman would not issue a FB set in
1949.

That's the story, guys.

TED Z





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Date Posted: Dec/17/2008 9:40 PM
Posted By: bigreddog (Collector)

Guys

What is "Gridiron Greats" ? Is it a modern magazine? How much is it? Where? What? Why?


57 Set has grown again! Now past 50 cards. Still on the Hunt for a HornungnRookie


The Latest. A couple more off centered than I would Like, but I will work on upgrading them later







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Date Posted: Dec/17/2008 10:00 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great magazine if you are into vintage football memorabilia

http://www.gridirongreats.net

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Date Posted: Dec/18/2008 7:47 AM
Posted By: jlzinck (Veteran)

Modern card. Vintage player!





Date Posted: Dec/20/2008 9:28 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Picked up the Tittle and Conerly for $15 bucks!




A few more for the set:





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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 6:30 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

One of my all-time favorite looking cards!



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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 10:48 AM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

Perkdog's last post reminded me that I had been wondering about the Rams' helmets on the 1950 Bowman cards. The horns appear to be white in the front and yellow on the sides. Does anyone know if they were really like this? Did the horns transition from white to yellow? Helmets, Helmets, Helmets shows the horns as all yellow, and The Helmet Project doesn't go that far back.




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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:07 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Mike I saw this online- a 1950 Rams Helmet. So according to this I say the cards did not depict the helmet accurately.





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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:09 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

And here is a pic of Elroy Hirsch- early 50's



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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:15 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

They had color back then????

I thought the entire world was in black and white

Seriously, back when I was a History teacher, I can't tell you how many times I heard comments like that from students.



Perk-welcome back to the non 52 world..that is an outstanding pick-up

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:17 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Perk-welcome back to the non 52 world..that is an outstanding pick-up >>




Thanks Ryan, its great to be back!

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:24 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

http://www.stlouisrams.com/History/Uniforms/


1937
Players such as rookie sensation Johnny Drake, Ted Rosequist, and Charles (Ookie) Miller looked great in this unique red & black uniform which was only used for the 1937 season. By 1938, the team would convert the color scheme to the more recognizable and familiar blue & yellow-gold.

Note the red chest number, and the red 'yoke' that ran continuously from the neckline - all the way down the length of the sleeves. This is a familiar look to hockey fans, less so to football fans. For a few other football examples, see the 1930's Giants, the 1960 Cowboys and the 1967 Steelers.





1940
The 1940 Rams, shown here in a beautiful blue jersey with yellow yoke, fared slightly better than their '37 counterpart - going 4-6-1. As mentioned earlier, in 1938, the franchise converted the uniform's colors from red & black to blue & yellow-gold. The jersey's 'yoke' no longer runs the length of the sleeves - rather stopping at the shoulders, and the pants are now white - featuring a slender, dark blue stripe down the leg.





1945
This uniform, as worn by the likes of Bob Waterfield, Clyde 'Big' Johnson, and Mike Scarry, features a yellow-gold collar, blue shoulder yoke and white pants - complete with blue & gold stripes. As for the patch on the left sleeve of the jersey? Look closely and you'll see an eagle with outstretched wings amidst a giant 'C' for "Cleveland". The bottom of the 'C' consists of red & white stripes in honor of 'Old Glory'. This patch, we believe, was in honor of America's successful war effort.





1948
The '48 uniform showcased here features some interesting changes from the 1945 uniform shown earlier. The blue shoulder yoke, which had graced Rams' jerseys in previous years, has been dropped. But most importantly, look at the helmet and you'll see the introduction of the infamous 'Rams' horns' logo - which has been a Rams' uniform staple right to the present day! Amazingly, the original design was done by Rams' halfback Fred Gehrke - who studied art in college at Utah. It's for this helmet that we chose to show this 1948 uniform - the painting of a team logo on the helmet began something that has added immeasurably to the game of football and fans enjoyment of the game - thanks Fred!





1951
The 1951 uniform, as worn by such champions as Van Brocklin, Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch and Paul Barry features two major differences from its 1948 counterpart: the helmet is now plastic in construction, rather than leather - and the jersey now showcases sleeve stripes.





1957
The '57 home uniform shown here features slender, yellow-gold sleeve numbers - high up on the arm. Look carefully and you'll notice that the chest numbers have a thin, white trim surrounding the gold - something the sleeve numbers lack - interesting and very unusual for this period of time.


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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:56 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< One of my all-time favorite looking cards!

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Paul,
Is that the one Osclabs (danny) was just selling? I was the under bidder on that, great looking card!


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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 11:58 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<<

<< One of my all-time favorite looking cards!

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Paul,
Is that the one Osclabs (danny) was just selling? I was the under bidder on that, great looking card!
>>




It was Joe, I went to bed last night thinking my $275 bid was going to be OK. Glad I woke up this morning and thought $285 would be better- $285 was the hammer. A little more than I wanted to spend but this is a top 5 all-time favorite cards for me.

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Date Posted: Dec/21/2008 12:29 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)

Oh, man, is that helmet cool! Interesting that the edges of the horns aren't smooth. That sort of mimics the horns on the team logo from those days. (Image from sportsecyclopedia.com.)



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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 9:12 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

it has been a while since I added to this thread.

Got this in today for my LSU rookie collection. Too bad they used the wrong Jim Taylor on both his 1959 and 1960 Topps cards



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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 10:35 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

8 days between posts on this thread is a disgrace! C'mon vintage football guys..lets keep this post going! Holidays is no excuse!



Nice Taylor....How P.O.'ed would you be if you waitied forever to get your picture on a football card..and when you do, they put the wrong guy!

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 3:42 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< 8 days between posts on this thread is a disgrace! C'mon vintage football guys..lets keep this post going! Holidays is no excuse!



Nice Taylor....How P.O.'ed would you be if you waitied forever to get your picture on a football card..and when you do, they put the wrong guy!
>>




Agreed! I have been slow to pick up any newer items myself, I been putting semi lowball bids on some cards and rightfully so I have been outbid every time.

That '59 Taylor Rookie is a shame it has the wrong pic on it, for that reason alone I will never add it to my collection, but then again Im not putting together a set that requires it either-

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 5:26 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

hello ladies!

This was a gift from a buddy of mine. Very cool card.



And some cards that are almost legal to drink.



Hope everyone had a happy christmas and a merry new year

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 7:19 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice cards Joe, that '50 Conerly will be a very nice addition to your set!

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 8:37 PM
Posted By: CSUrunandstun (Senior Member)

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 8:40 PM
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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 8:41 PM
Posted By: CSUrunandstun (Senior Member)

Sorry guys...trying to load my '48 Bowman Les Horvath PSA-9 (1 of 1). Too stupid to figure it out...

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 8:43 PM
Posted By: Blackborder (Expert Collector)

My 57 purchases came to a grinding halt. Too many things grab my interest. I really want a 54 Blanda.

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Date Posted: Dec/29/2008 8:45 PM
Posted By: CSUrunandstun (Senior Member)

I have one for sale on the bay right now...

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 9:08 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Two more '57s for my set just came in:






Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 9:18 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)



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<< One of my all-time favorite looking cards!

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Paul,
Is that the one Osclabs (danny) was just selling? I was the under bidder on that, great looking card!
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It was Joe, I went to bed last night thinking my $275 bid was going to be OK. Glad I woke up this morning and thought $285 would be better- $285 was the hammer. A little more than I wanted to spend but this is a top 5 all-time favorite cards for me.
>>



Nice pickup. One of my favorite cards, as well. I picked this one up for $235-$240 back in July, so yours is further proof that good, quality vintage FB cards continue to go up, up, up.



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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 3:59 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Wow! gosteelers you did VERY WELL with that pickup! Gorgeous Davis!

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 4:17 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

That is one great card...that Davis looks killer in the SGC slab!

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 6:02 PM
Posted By: CSUrunandstun (Senior Member)



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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 6:57 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

great Horvath! CSU..you from Cleveland?

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 7:00 PM
Posted By: CSUrunandstun (Senior Member)

Yes, big daddy...proud Cleveland heights tiger and CSU Viking

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 7:09 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I also graduated from Cleveland State..I live in Parma.

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 7:12 PM
Posted By: CSUrunandstun (Senior Member)

Cool!...I'm in AZ now....the horvath is in my Heisman set...hope the vikes can keep it going in hoops...big win @ Syracuse b4 we laid an egg yesterday!

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Date Posted: Dec/31/2008 8:21 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Another 1950 Bowman FB for my set-my favorite set:





Date Posted: Jan/01/2009 5:29 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Another 1950 Bowman FB for my set-my favorite set:

>>



What are you collecting the entire set in SGC 8.5?




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Date Posted: Jan/01/2009 7:24 PM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Here's a '52 Bowman Large I picked up recently:





Date Posted: Jan/01/2009 7:42 PM
Posted By: otwcards (Master Collector)

Still working on my HOF RC, 1948 Leaf (Basic and Master) and picking up auto'd '48 Leaf and HOF RC's. In the meantime, I've decided to take the plunge into the 1955 Topps All American Set. Starting from scratch, but set the bar at a level I think I can complete. I'm going to build it in PSA 6 or better and the cards MUST be VERY well centered. If anyone has some extras lying around, I'll gladly consider buying them and help you offset some of the Holiday spending.

Here are 4 of the first 6 I've picked up to start my set:



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MOO,
Scott

Looking to Upgrade my 1948 Leaf Football Master Set. Buying 1948 Leaf FB Autos, 1894 N302 Football, 19th Century Football Cabinets.



Date Posted: Jan/01/2009 11:55 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I had to upgrade from the old shoeboxes I was using to these great cases...I highly recommend them! Picked up 2 from Matt. Luckily, I can't fill them totally yet...leaves a little growing room for the collection!





My wife is awesome! I have "dreamed" of having brown leather furniture in my "football" room. My wife made it happen this Christmas! She rocks!




I am one happy man!

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Date Posted: Jan/02/2009 12:11 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

you should be ryan ,that is cool

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Date Posted: Jan/02/2009 8:08 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

These '55 Bowmans are starting to grow on me a little...You cant beat this one for $15




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Date Posted: Jan/02/2009 8:12 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

And for some strange reason I finally got around to scanning my Baugh card, I got this as an upgrade awhile ago. One of my favorite '52's.




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Date Posted: Jan/02/2009 9:13 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

That is a great looking Baugh!

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Date Posted: Jan/02/2009 12:37 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< That is a great looking Baugh! >>




That is a couple of GREAT LOOKING ROOMS Ryan!

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Date Posted: Jan/02/2009 9:46 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)


Here is today's arrival......this is the last of the regular issued Jim Brown cards I need.



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Date Posted: Jan/04/2009 4:49 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice work Ryan, so I take it you have completed the Jim Brown player set?

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Date Posted: Jan/04/2009 5:29 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice work Ryan, so I take it you have completed the Jim Brown player set? >>



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not sure about that...I have his 1957-66 regular cards..mixed SGC and PSA...I would like to eventually upgade the 2 6's to 7's. Are there any other cards in his player set?




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 01/04/2009 17:33:46|U



Date Posted: Jan/04/2009 6:59 PM
Posted By: HighChopper (Collector)

Great backdrop!



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Date Posted: Jan/04/2009 10:44 PM
Posted By: djspann (Veteran)

Fantastic stuff, Ryan!



Date Posted: Jan/04/2009 11:04 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)



<< Great backdrop!

>>



I seem to recall hearing Brown requested this backdrop to show off his brand new car (caddy?).



Snorto~



Date Posted: Jan/04/2009 11:32 PM
Posted By: TheCARDKid (Collector)



<< it has been a while since I added to this thread.

Got this in today for my LSU rookie collection. Too bad they used the wrong Jim Taylor on both his 1959 and 1960 Topps cards

>>



It's a cool card. Larry Fritsch use to sell 59 Topps 2nd series lots (of 40 cards) for $100. From vending. And the big rookies included were Bobby Mitchell and Jim Taylor. I think the highest I got was a 7 (bought a few sets). Wonder if anyone ever got any really high grades.



Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 1:10 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<<

<< Great backdrop!

>>



I seem to recall hearing Brown requested this backdrop to show off his brand new car (caddy?).



Snorto~
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That IS correct.

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 1:18 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)



<< These '55 Bowmans are starting to grow on me a little...You cant beat this one for $15...... >>



Nice pickup Paul. If I ever did a vintage football set, 1955 Bowman is the only one that really appeals to me. I have about 30 mid grade cards with a few hall of famers, but if I really went after it I would try for it in all PSA 7.

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 1:45 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<<

<< These '55 Bowmans are starting to grow on me a little...You cant beat this one for $15...... >>



Nice pickup Paul. If I ever did a vintage football set, 1955 Bowman is the only one that really appeals to me. I have about 30 mid grade cards with a few hall of famers, but if I really went after it I would try for it in all PSA 7.
>>




Nick, always a pleasure to see you stopping buy, maybe sometime soon you will decide to build that set and then you can be a regular here.

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 2:11 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

A few new arrivals:








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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 2:21 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

Groza's helmet on that '53 looks really funny for some reason.

Nice cards. I love that Brown run!! I have often thought his run would be fun to put together. Seems like he might have an in action card you need ?
John

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 2:53 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Ryan I take it we are doing the '53 Bowman now as well?

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 6:21 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Great looking card for well under SMR..






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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 6:34 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Way to swoop down and grab that Walker right from my hands Perk! I had that on my radar...but got home late from a booster meeting and missed it. Enjoy it you rat fink


P.S. Great Walker!


Oh and I am not building the 53 set...I actually decided not to build the 51 set either.....

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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 6:38 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Oh and I am not building the 53 set...I actually decided not to build the 51 set either..... >>




Oh I see, we are just going to do 50% of every Football set 1935-1957?






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Date Posted: Jan/05/2009 10:14 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<<

<< These '55 Bowmans are starting to grow on me a little...You cant beat this one for $15...... >>



Nice pickup Paul. If I ever did a vintage football set, 1955 Bowman is the only one that really appeals to me. I have about 30 mid grade cards with a few hall of famers, but if I really went after it I would try for it in all PSA 7.
>>



55 Bowman, good enough for Nick, good enough for me. And I AM collecting this set, slowly but surely, just looking for the cheap, low hanging fruit psa 8's that I can snatch up. One of the coolest designs for a card I thinks



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Date Posted: Jan/07/2009 4:48 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

This thread was buried....so I figured I would bump it with this slideshow of 51 and 55 Bowman that I just made in photobucket..pretty cool stuff!

BDB 51 Bowman slideshow

BDB 55 Bowman slideshow



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Date Posted: Jan/08/2009 7:08 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)





Edit- Having a BLAST picking up cards that catch my eye rather than "Grinding" out Commons like its a chore!

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 01/08/2009 19:12:45|U



Date Posted: Jan/09/2009 6:52 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

After thumbing through one of my Gridiron Greats magazines I came across an article in this guy, it was such a great read it prompted me to go out and grab the card that was pictured in the article. This guy stormed the beaches at Iwo Jima...




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Date Posted: Jan/09/2009 8:31 AM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

A nice AA Grange



Date Posted: Jan/09/2009 10:48 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)



<< After thumbing through one of my Gridiron Greats magazines I came across an article in this guy, it was such a great read it prompted me to go out and grab the card that was pictured in the article. This guy stormed the beaches at Iwo Jima... >>


I may have posted this here before, but two prize autographs I have are for Jack Lummus, NY Giants, who was awarded the Medal of Honor for his valor after his fatal wounds on Iwo Jima and Al Blozis, NY Giant, killed in action in France. Here is a link to a comic book about Blozis
True Comics



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Date Posted: Jan/09/2009 1:44 PM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)



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Robert

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Date Posted: Jan/10/2009 2:45 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I had to shovel out 2 feet of snow in my driveway to get to the darn mailbox..but it was worth it! Todays mailday:




I have a REAL nice SGC 7 Dudley available for sale if anyone is interested.


A few 60's cards that I picked up off ebay..funny thing is the seller's store is about 10 minutes from my house.





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Date Posted: Jan/10/2009 7:50 PM
Posted By: TJMAC (Veteran)

Nice pickups. I always liked the 1967 Topps Alworth. He was way ahead of his time.



Date Posted: Jan/10/2009 8:17 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Goodsport..Great Unitas!....hope to see you around here more this year!

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Date Posted: Jan/10/2009 10:19 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< After thumbing through one of my Gridiron Greats magazines I came across an article in this guy, it was such a great read it prompted me to go out and grab the card that was pictured in the article. This guy stormed the beaches at Iwo Jima...


>>


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Perk this Arenas is a sweet looking card... The players of today wouldn''t storm Miami beach!

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Date Posted: Jan/11/2009 8:05 AM
Posted By: Goodsport40 (Collector)



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Robert

 01/13/2009 18:14:23|U



Date Posted: Jan/12/2009 2:35 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Another nice pick up



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Date Posted: Jan/12/2009 3:01 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Very nice Trippi Perk!

I have hunted this one for a long time now....for some reason it has been very tough to find well centered with good coloring. The SMR is only $22...I had to pay over double that to pick this up. I hated to pay that much..but I havn't seen one this nice come around in a while.



Here's another new addition.....I think Robustelli was the original Karate Kid! Nice crane!



An upgrade:



I have a SGC 7 available for trade or sale


Finally, picked this up dirt cheap..under 10 bucks!



Happy with this mailday!

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 01/12/2009 15:16:09|U



Date Posted: Jan/12/2009 3:10 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice cards Ryan!

Congrats on the Bednarik, very nice card glad you found one your happy with!




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Date Posted: Jan/12/2009 3:21 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice cards Ryan! What card did you get for under $10?

Congrats on the Bednarik, very nice card glad you found one your happy with!
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Thanks Paul...I have found this Bednarik to be very difficult to find well centered..its usually very off centered...also the color registration is nice on this compared to others. The only thing I hate about the card though is the centering of the oval....unfortunately it is like that on all the 58 Bednarik's. For some reason topps made the card with the oval off centered!


I picked up the Roosevelt Brown for $9.99.

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Date Posted: Jan/13/2009 7:50 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

A member of the early 50's "Bull Elephant" backfield..







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Date Posted: Jan/15/2009 11:06 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Newly added to the BDB collection:



The scan stinks..I will put a better one when i get it.

I have a SGC 7 for sale or trade if anyone is interested.

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 01/15/2009 23:08:01|U



Date Posted: Jan/16/2009 10:53 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I picked up the 1941, 1947, 1948, and 1949 Pro football Illustrated magazines. They are great! Here is an ad that I thought was cool.
This is from the 1947 magazine..after the first year of the AAFC. After reading the 47-49 magazines, I was surprised just how much of a "war" was going on between the NFL and AAFC. Several articles in them discuss the battle between the two leagues.



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Date Posted: Jan/16/2009 8:42 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice job Ryan, I almost bid on that Baugh, glad I didnt. congrats.

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Date Posted: Jan/16/2009 10:53 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Nice job Ryan, I almost bid on that Baugh, glad I didnt. congrats. >>



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me too


I actually was eyeing the PSA 7 that you are bidding on now...but realized it was you, and then I found this one. Good luck on the 7, it is a real nice one!

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Date Posted: Jan/17/2009 7:39 AM
Posted By: gosteelers (Expert Collector)

Nice cards, everyone! I'm really starting to like the look of those '51 Bowmans. Here is a nice looking 1950 SGC 60 I recently picked up:





Date Posted: Jan/17/2009 8:26 AM
Posted By: wolfbear (Expert Collector)


That's a cool ad for the AAFC BigDaddy.
I like that they're bragging about being 48.5 % successful on field goal attempts.

Great looking 5 gosteelers!


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Date Posted: Jan/18/2009 8:56 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



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Date Posted: Jan/18/2009 10:03 PM
Posted By: wolfbear (Expert Collector)


Wow! Awesome 7! Finding cards like that is what it's all about ...



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Date Posted: Jan/18/2009 11:45 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great Baugh Paul.....now you need a nice Motley to go with it!

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Date Posted: Jan/19/2009 7:46 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Great Baugh Paul.....now you need a nice Motley to go with it! >>



Oh yes and a bunch of others as well

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Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 8:38 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Bumped for my friend Barry.

( Trying to give him another reason to post here )



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Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 9:35 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Holy schnikies!

Great looking '51s, perk, and thanks for entering me in your most generous contest.



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Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 12:49 PM
Posted By: thehallmark (Veteran)

Speaking of Baugh, do you guys know of any cards (oddballs included) that depict him as a DB or punter?

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Naps, sandwiches, Baltimore Ravens.



Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 12:52 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Speaking of Baugh, do you guys know of any cards (oddballs included) that depict him as a DB or punter? >>




The only thing I might reccomend is maybe doing a search on Ebay for comics or adds depicting him, I know for a fact his regular issued cards ( 1948-1955 ) do not.


Edit: Try shooting Mike ( Nearmint ) a PM he loves the oddball issues so he might know of something.

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 01/20/2009 12:53:41|U



Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 1:32 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Today's mailday...




I have an SGC 88 (8) for sale now if anyone is interested.



I have never seen any cards depicting Baugh as Punter or DB either.

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 01/20/2009 13:34:54|U



Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 4:48 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That is a SWEEET Davis Ryan

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Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 7:29 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

I just got a nicely centered crisp Motley card! Very happy with this copy!!




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Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 7:46 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)




Great pick-up Paul......if that Motley's reverse is clean...that could be bumpable. I hope I have the same luck on the Tittle and Perry that end tommorow. I am on the hunt for those two!

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Date Posted: Jan/20/2009 8:37 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)






Another great lost....

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Date Posted: Jan/21/2009 2:36 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

In honor of the Eagles blowing it...I picked up a few Eagles greats who wouldn't have choked. (sorry..it is the Cowboys Fan coming out in me...and a little jealousy because the Cowboys are a mess right now!)








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Date Posted: Jan/21/2009 4:22 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Awesome looking cards Ryan! I love the 53 Pihos especially!

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Date Posted: Jan/21/2009 4:53 PM
Posted By: nearmint (Collector)



<< << Speaking of Baugh, do you guys know of any cards (oddballs included) that depict him as a DB or punter? >>

The only thing I might reccomend is maybe doing a search on Ebay for comics or adds depicting him, I know for a fact his regular issued cards ( 1948-1955 ) do not. Edit: Try shooting Mike ( Nearmint ) a PM he loves the oddball issues so he might know of something.
>>



All the Baugh cards I know of are here. Shouldabeen (the other Mike T.) is the real oddball expert, though. He might know of others.

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Date Posted: Jan/23/2009 10:54 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Whats up with this picture??? I came across this card on ebay, and was taken aback by the helmet that Sid is wearing in this picture. Why would he have a Rams helmet on?


Luckmanrams???







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Date Posted: Jan/24/2009 1:31 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)



<< Whats up with this picture??? I came across this card on ebay, and was taken aback by the helmet that Sid is wearing in this picture. Why would he have a Rams helmet on?


Luckmanrams???
>>



Maybe he borrowed Bob Waterfields helmet at an all-star game.
Strange shot of Luckman with a Rams lid.

By the way, sweet Bednarik, Pihos' cards.



Date Posted: Jan/24/2009 2:06 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)



<< Wow, gorgeous Geri and Nowasky!

Here's the latest improvement to my 1961 Lake to Lake Packers set:

>>



I haven't read this thread in a while.

Hey Mike, great Lake to Lake Willie Davis pre-rookie card.
So tough!

If this is an upgrade, what did you do with your lowly 8?
If you still have it, I might be interested in it. Lmk. PM me.

Rich



Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:18 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

not that old, but still qualifies as vintage, for my Archie Manning collection



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Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:28 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Finally came in today:



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Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:31 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Gorgeous Baugh Ryan! Mine came in the other day and needless to say Im very happy with it however its not nearly as nice as that one!

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:41 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

2 more came today...How in the heck did the Tittle not get an 8?





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Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:42 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Gorgeous Baugh Ryan! Mine came in the other day and needless to say Im very happy with it however its not nearly as nice as that one! >>




You did VERY well on yours too!

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:48 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

That Tittle is sweet, it prolly didnt get an 8 for the same reason about 5 or 6 of my cards didnt get a .5 bump

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Date Posted: Jan/26/2009 1:52 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<<

<< Whats up with this picture??? I came across this card on ebay, and was taken aback by the helmet that Sid is wearing in this picture. Why would he have a Rams helmet on?


Luckmanrams???
>>



Maybe he borrowed Bob Waterfields helmet at an all-star game.
Strange shot of Luckman with a Rams lid.

By the way, sweet Bednarik, Pihos' cards.
>>



My exact thought. All-Star helmets have changed over time. Used to be that the players helmets were spray painted red and blue for the All-Star game.

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Date Posted: Jan/28/2009 9:46 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

The poor mailman trampled through the snow to bring me these upgrades:










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Date Posted: Jan/28/2009 10:32 AM
Posted By: wolfbear (Expert Collector)


Great looking 7's!

Thanks for posting them ...


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Date Posted: Jan/29/2009 9:13 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

A few recent pickups for hof rc set..

















Very nice Bowmans Ryan, great cards!

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Mark
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NFL HOF RC SET



Date Posted: Jan/29/2009 10:02 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Thanks...

Mark..that is one great looking 5...any creases? that may be bumpable.

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Date Posted: Jan/30/2009 10:12 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Two vintage photos - can you find AA Stagg? These are albumin prints, which means they have a very mellow tone coming from 1886 and 1887


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Date Posted: Jan/30/2009 9:02 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

very cool photos rev!


picked this up today:


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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 10:36 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

"What the hell is a matter with you people?"




This thread should NEVER...I mean NEVER be buried this deep on the board!!!!!

Start buying and posting vintage football...or Judge Judy is gonna lay the smackdown on all of us!

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 10:58 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

some of my old fb cards i got autoed and slabbed under the psa auto special

buddytinsley- hes in the cfl hof

this was a crackout 6, hopefully i can crack it out later and it be a 6 again in better times

the ox

sweet 48 bowman, should have been higher too

concrete chuck- at least i got one 7 out of it

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 11:04 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

WOW!! Did I find the one person that Rube is afraid of??? Judge Judy talks..and Rube acts..very quickly



Thanks for the great pics Randy!

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 11:14 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

judge judy is mean and she hollers alot

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 3:27 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nice autos Randy! ( Also a bump so Ryan doesnt get Judy after us )

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 3:30 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

I kind of wish they would situate all sideways cards like the tittle, not like the wistert.
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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 3:40 PM
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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 4:52 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Hi Matt

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Date Posted: Feb/03/2009 4:55 PM
Posted By: lawnmowerman (Catch 22)

Hi Paul

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Date Posted: Feb/04/2009 8:02 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Does anyone have(or have seen) a picture of Marion Motley in a steelers uniform?

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Date Posted: Feb/04/2009 9:21 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

Please stop buying 1951 Bowman and 1955 TAAs in PSA 7 or higher.

I thank you in advance for your cooperation, it's greatly appreciated.



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Date Posted: Feb/07/2009 6:57 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Sorry I dont have anything to add but I figured I would give this a bump in hopes someone has a new item to show off!

Ryan?

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Date Posted: Feb/08/2009 8:40 AM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Recent additions for hof rc set






















Hate to see this thread get to far down the list...

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Date Posted: Feb/08/2009 5:39 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

Remodel done. Family moved in. I have about $35.00/month to spend on ebay for a few months until we get a handle on our budget. I had to pull the trigger on this one. Two months without buying was tough and I've already blown my Feb. budget...can't wait until March!



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Date Posted: Feb/09/2009 9:02 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Found a nice 1905 Carlisle vs. Washington & Jefferson program with this picture of the Carlisle team - I just finished reading The Real All Americans by Sally Jenkins which was a great book, but with some historical error. Now I'm on to Doctors, Lawyers, Indian Chiefs by Tom Benjey, which is as complete a story of the men who played for Carlisle as you can find - QB in this photo is Frank Mt. Pleasant who in 1906 with the new rules would become a master of the forward pass (reputedly the first player to throw a spiral)





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Date Posted: Feb/09/2009 2:13 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

One thing nice to notice is that even back in 1905 the football fan was health conscious - here's an ad from that Carlisle vs W & J program



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Date Posted: Feb/09/2009 4:32 PM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

Speaking of Carlisle vs. Washington & Jefferson, how 'bout these two studs in Mint !







Date Posted: Feb/09/2009 7:19 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Alright! Thread is starting to heat up!

great pics Rev.....Macboube awesome 55's...saw those on the net54 board too...those are all killers that you have!

Great Ford and Gatski too..that Gatski is one of my favorite cards.


Here is today's new addition...in honor of the Cardinals going to the Superbowl...

Trippi, the star of the last Cardinals Championship team. Trippi comprised the "dream backfield" with Christman, Angsman, Goldberg, and Harder. Good to see Trippi get alot of press the last few weeks.



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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:52 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< Speaking of Carlisle vs. Washington & Jefferson, how 'bout these two studs in Mint !



>>



Oh. My. Freaking. Gawd.



Awesome cards and thanks for sharing.



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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 1:09 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Just to help us remember the status of the pro game way back when, here is the Thanksgiving Day program from Yankee Stadium in 1926 - Red Grange and his New York Yankees facing the Philadelphia Quakers - on a double bill with a high school game, Commerce vs. DeWitt Clinton.



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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:17 PM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

Neice piece Rev......Love that pose of Red Grange on the cover......in the H.S. game I'll take DeWitt Clinton plus the points in that game.

Seen these Stown?








Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:31 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

Macboube is dropping atom bombs on this thread. Very very nice.

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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:32 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)

900

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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:33 PM
Posted By: lawnmowerman (Catch 22)

Cheater

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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:42 PM
Posted By: nam812 (Master Collector)



<< Cheater >>



Says you. I made a legitimate comment in my buddy Paul's thread, and then after said comment, I just happened to notice that there were 899 posts.

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Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 8:43 PM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

N - More bombs to come............very nice J. Johnson 7. What a tremendous card! All world.



Date Posted: Feb/10/2009 9:11 PM
Posted By: lawnmowerman (Catch 22)



<<

<< Cheater >>



Says you.
>>




link

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Date Posted: Feb/11/2009 1:32 AM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

Sweet AA's!!! The best in the world.

By the way, for those who know him, doesn't Fats Henry resemble card dealer Brian Marcy of Scottsdale Cards a little in the face?







Date Posted: Feb/11/2009 10:22 AM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

Another of the world's best...............Nevers & Nevers



Thanks for the kind words and to all who appreciate these great AA's.



Date Posted: Feb/11/2009 11:29 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< Seen these Stown?



>>



You're throwing in one of those as a free-bee with my Warburton, right?



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Date Posted: Feb/11/2009 1:07 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

SWEET 55's!



Just in today:
2nd year cards are a great value in comparison to the rookies. Picked this up for $100 under SMR




I have a SGC 7 available to sell or trade if interested.



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Date Posted: Feb/12/2009 1:49 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I had never seen this before but I hit the BIN button as fast as my hands could fly




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Date Posted: Feb/12/2009 3:55 PM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

Great Nagurski piece! What a specimen he was. The original Trminator!

Stown, Can't throw in a PSA 9 or 10, but we'll see about a trimmed card in PRO holder......................lol



Date Posted: Feb/12/2009 4:19 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



<< Stown, Can't throw in a PSA 9 or 10, but we'll see about a trimmed card in PRO holder......................lol >>





I fart in your general direction, sir.

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Date Posted: Feb/13/2009 6:05 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

I never noticed before Ryan's nice big post, but on the 1959 Jim Brown, the Topps art dept. forgot to replace the natrual photo background under his left arm with the blue pattern. I wonder what the original photo looked like.

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Date Posted: Feb/13/2009 6:10 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< I never noticed before Ryan's nice big post, but on the 1959 Jim Brown, the Topps art dept. forgot to replace the natrual photo background under his left arm with the blue pattern. I wonder what the original photo looked like. >>




Very interesting question Bob, Personally I think the cards would have looked better with a background other than a solid color.

Any new creations?

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Date Posted: Feb/13/2009 11:39 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

I have always liked the 1959 design, evenout the natural photo backgrounds. I believe there is a similar "error" on the '59 Hornung.

I did a 1955-style Jim McMahon last weekend and this weekend will finish up a '55-style Bill Goldberg; I'll post a picture after I get back from Arizona on the 23rd.

Then I'm switching gears to do a few 1958 style cards and maybe a 1957. Those will be a first for me. I've really got a nice list of to-do card projects that will keep me busy for awhile.

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Date Posted: Feb/13/2009 11:41 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Nie Bob! I cant wait to see them.

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Date Posted: Feb/14/2009 6:01 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

love the chicles... almost as much as Bowman!

The first 1,000 yard rusher in a season.....



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Date Posted: Feb/14/2009 6:10 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< love the chicles... almost as much as Bowman!

The first 1,000 yard rusher in a season.....

>>




Nice card Ryan! Interesting fact about Feathers is that after that 1000 yard Season it would take him another 5 years to gain another 1000 yards.

Im liking those Chicles more and more, great artwork!

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Date Posted: Feb/14/2009 6:16 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Rushing Yards 1934
1. Beattie Feathers CHB 1004
2. Swede Hanson PHI 805
3. Dutch Clark DET 763
4. Bronko Nagurski CHB 586
5. Ernie Caddel DET 528


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Date Posted: Feb/15/2009 11:27 AM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

The Chicle Feathers is cool. So is this AA Short Print.



Date Posted: Feb/15/2009 12:06 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)



<< SWEET 55's!



Just in today:
2nd year cards are a great value in comparison to the rookies. Picked this up for $100 under SMR




I have a SGC 7 available to sell or trade if interested.
>>



2nd year cards are a great value. I think I paid $60 for this 2 years ago. Not the greatest 7 I've ever seen, but a great way to put together the 59 set for a reasonable price.



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Date Posted: Feb/15/2009 12:53 PM
Posted By: wolfbear (Expert Collector)


My Brown in 7 rules :





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Date Posted: Feb/15/2009 6:33 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Rev - Love that Bronk piece... the man not only looked like he was carved from stone, he hit like it too according to those who played against him.

BDD - Always great to see the Chicles getting some love!

I thought I would share this here since one of my favorite things about this thread is all the "oddball" stuff that has been posted.

This is the 1972 Chiquita NFL Slides complete set with the viewer, the original box it was shipped in, and the complete send-away magazine ad.



I have seen a few of these sets come and go over the years and finally landed one... for about a third of what they typically go for without the box and ad. Not an ultra rare set and it doesn't include a ton of star power (Bob Lilly and Joe Greene are the top stars), but I was very happy to add it to my collector for just a bit over $20.00 delivered!



Snorto~



Date Posted: Feb/17/2009 10:50 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

I don't remember ever seeing that '72 Chiquita slide deal. That's pretty cool and reasonable in price.

This thread was sitting on page 5, that shouldn't happen.

I bought this cello a few months ago. It was a GAI 8.5, it crossed to a solid PSA 8 . I was happy.



Here's a couple of '68 Packers in my collection:







Date Posted: Feb/20/2009 1:54 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Those Packers look awesome in the black SGC holder!

a few additions for the set:








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Date Posted: Feb/21/2009 8:26 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

It seems like the buying of vintage football has slowed some recently....which results in this thread being buried. We can't let that happen! Here is an idea that will keep the thread active, and doesn't necessarily have to be a new purchase.

Post a card or other item of a player and provide a short bio or interesting fact about the player...so that we can learn about some of the old timers. I would recommend that we choose many of the not so famous vintage players..the non-hofers etc. but I guess it really doesn't matter who though.

I will start....

I just picked this one up....



After reading the bio on the back of the card, I became interested in Gehrke. The card stated that he was a "technical illustrator during the war..and that he helped design aircrafts like the "Black Widow" Night Fighter and the new "Flying Ram."

After doing some research on him, I discovered that he is credited with designing the Rams logo, which was the first logo to be painted on NFL helmets ....Pretty cool stuff! He then became the GM of the Broncos during the late 70's.



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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 10:48 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

love the 59 Browns.

Upgraded a Billy Cannon from my player set, just one grade though from a 7 to this one



also added another card for my LSU Rookie set I am working on, not quite vintage, but still from a great set in my opinion



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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 11:55 AM
Posted By: FavreFan1971 (Expert Collector)



Here's a couple of '68 Packers in my collection:

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Truly stunning for the Donny. It is a tough card to find in that shape. What shape is your Dale in?

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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 12:24 PM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

I've always enjoyed looking at the '68s. Maybe because they somewhat resemble the TAAs..

Thanks for sharing.



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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 1:07 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Here's an oddball item - in 1936 the Giants played the College All Stars on Sept. 8 in NY and win 12-2 - Tuffy Leemans and Dan Fortmann played for the All Stars. Leemans then went to the Giants and on Sept. 13 the Giants played an NFL game at Philadelphia and lost 10-7. Then they played two non NFL teams, New Rochelle and Passaic and won both, but then lost their second NFL game at Pittsburg 10-7 on Sept 27. Their next NFL game was in Boston on Oct 4, but on Oct 1 they had another exhibition game in Washington DC against another college all star team, which they won 35 - 0. They scored their first NFL victory in Boston three days later with a 7 - 0 win over the Redskins. Anyway, here is a program from the Oct 1 game featuring Tuffy Leemans:



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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 6:21 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Landed my #2 White Whale! Now I gotta get a Bronko!




My new favorite card.....and the centerpiece of my collection. Gonna send it in to be reholdered though....don't like the flip.

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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 6:38 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)



<< Here's a couple of '68 Packers in my collection:

>>



Truly stunning for the Donny. It is a tough card to find in that shape. What shape is your Dale in? >>



Thanks a lot. I have a Dale in a PSA 8. I actually just got that back from grading. I bought it raw at a local card show. You're right, it's a tough card. I think it's on the upper right hand corner of the uncut '68 sheet.

I collect Packers in both SGC and PSA holders and I have some raw too.

Here's another :



Also :







Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 6:41 PM
Posted By: cardbender (Collector)

I had these graded about 10 years ago, check out the old PSA labels. I bought these raw around 1995-96 when you could still find NM-MT cards at reasonable prices.






Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 7:37 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Landed my #2 White Whale! Now I gotta get a Bronko!




My new favorite card.....and the centerpiece of my collection. Gonna send it in to be reholdered though....don't like the flip.
>>



CONGRATS!!!!!!!! Ryan you did very well, I KNOW how happy you are to land a "White Whale" I felt that way when I landed my '52 Gifford & Van Brocklin

Sorry to everyone that I havnt posted here in awhile, Im taking a break for a little bit but plan on getting back in sometime soon.

GREAT cards guys, its nice to see this thread getting some attention.

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Date Posted: Feb/23/2009 9:37 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Great looking R.Grange card Ryan!!!!!
That's always been one of my favorite football cards! looks good in a sgc slab.....



This arrived today for the hof rc set
needless to say I was happy, not bad looking 8.....









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Date Posted: Feb/24/2009 1:49 AM
Posted By: rube26105 (1/1)

quit that

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Date Posted: Feb/24/2009 10:15 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

My contribution to keeping the thread fresh.



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Date Posted: Feb/24/2009 4:29 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

incredible Grange, I also love the 68 Packers set. Might have to do that set, if I can ever track down the last 2 69s I need.

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Date Posted: Feb/25/2009 5:46 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Thanks guys....I'm such a proud Papa! LOL


Here are a few new additions for the set...





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Date Posted: Feb/25/2009 5:56 PM
Posted By: TJMAC (Veteran)

Congrats on getting the Red Grange card. It presents very nicely. That would be the centerpiece of a lot of collections.



Date Posted: Feb/26/2009 12:45 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

I can't do a .pdf file but I scanned the cover and one article from the 1962 HOF game mentioned below and you can see it or save it from these links

Cover 1962 HOF

Article

Article continued

edit: this question about this program was posted on another thread - sorry about that.

Here's a link to the forum in questionForum

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Date Posted: Mar/02/2009 10:48 AM
Posted By: macboube (Senior Member)

fyi - I have a dozen PSA 8's from my '55 AA find avail. on the Bay. Ends 3/4 p.m., then I will be posting a bunch of PSA 7's from the same.

Got two more tens recently. The Registry is soon to be dominated!

Hear is an "older" 10, to keep this thread hott......

Fight On! NOT! (I am a UCLA man)......



Date Posted: Mar/02/2009 12:39 PM
Posted By: shouldabeena10 (Collector)

Here's some recent football items I scanned that I kind of like.

1962 Topps CFL cards .... with a few guys that also played in the NFL and one of Bronko's son:


A 1948 Schedule / Score card of The L. A. Dons Football Team:


A few old postcards of players and teams from the pre ESPN days:







And lastly, an older Victorian card, showing NearMint Mike as a child ...
trying to decide if he should eat or go play ball with the big kids. ;-)



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Date Posted: Mar/02/2009 2:07 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great old postcards and pics!


Grange came in the mail today..so I figured I would repost with my own scan



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Date Posted: Mar/02/2009 3:19 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

where did you find all those photos, etc?
John

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Date Posted: Mar/04/2009 4:25 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

Picked up one of my white whales (got paid nicely for doing a coaches clinic so had a few extra bucks). Got it for a good price considering how well centered it is. Odd story on the card's sales history. Anyone want to speculate?



dslsports sells it to jonogg on 7/20/08 for $430.02

dslsports puts the same card on ebay last week 1958 Brown PSA 6

I paid above VCP, but much less than jonogg on 7/20/08 - sign of the times?

Anyway, I can't wait to get it into my hands. Not as big a whale as Perk and Ryan, but I'm trying. Tony

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Date Posted: Mar/04/2009 5:49 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Great looking Jim Brown! Killer 6! Congrats!
If a Jim Brown Rookie isn't a big fish...I don't know what is...
Tony, what sport do you coach?

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Date Posted: Mar/04/2009 8:22 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

I've coached football and lacrosse for years. I'm in administration now so I just work with the coaches. I do clinics through US Lacrosse for beginner to high school jv/assistant coaches. Get to travel all over doing these clinics and really have a blast and they pay me which = $ for cards. US Lacrosse is a great organization to work for US Lacrosse on a part-time, seasonal basis. Tony

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Date Posted: Mar/06/2009 3:40 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Kind of strange.....Read in the paper today that George McAfee died Wednesday..then about a half hour later, my wife brings in the mail. I open the package, and this arrives today...



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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 6:49 AM
Posted By: AUPT (Veteran)

I just finished my first 1962-style custom card . . .






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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 12:17 PM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

1 down and 1 left to go to finish my 1969 Topps set in PSA 8 or better.

This came courtesy of Pink Catfish from these boards



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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 1:57 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Only one to go for the complete '69 set is great, although I dont own any yet those cards are very appealing.

Myself, I have almost finished downsizing my collection back to where I am enjoying my cards individually and not grinding out commons for the '52 set- it was alot of fun while it lasted but almost 15K later I wasnt even 50% done so I said forget it..

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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 2:02 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

This comes under the Memorabila rather than the cards, but I thought some might be interested in these snapshots of the NY Giants from 1932 - I'm working on adding some to the collection.



The fellow in the center of the bottom row of the sheet above right is my father and he's also in the small shot in the bottom right corner of the sheet below.
Hall of Famers Red Badgro, Mel Hein, Ray Flaherty, and Steve Owen are also pictured.



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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 3:18 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

mcolney1
That Brown is a sweet card. The number on the flip means nothing. It's a great looking card at a good price. I would say it ranks right up there with all the football whales. After all, there is only one rookie of the greatest running back of all time. Nice pick up.

Haven't contributed much to this thread lately. I moved some stagnent stock money around and purchased an original oil by R. Atkinson Fox. He painted all the American Presidents of his time and has works hanging in the Library of Congress. My confidence in the stock market is a bit shaky at the moment. I don't believe his works will sky rocket any time soon, but will hold it's value, unlike alot of stocks today. Anyways, after this purchase I will be eating Romane noodles for the next 6 months and drueling over everyone else's football pick ups. No fears though, I still have all my football sets and plan on jumping back in when ihave 2 nickles to rub together. Here's a pic of the painting. He is a very famous artist and my daughter will have a museum quality piece after I am buried with my football cards.



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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 3:22 PM
Posted By: 2dueces (Collector)

And here is one by the same I would absolutely kill to own, but I don't have any more body parts left to sell. Sorry for derailing this thread, but I miss talking to you guys on this thread. Vintage football is my passion, but the stock market has killed me. I think I lost about 40% of my net worth in 6 months. That's ok, it only took me 35 years to save it up. Crap.



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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 4:32 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

revmoran,

Great snap shots. I'm a big fan of Hein, we both went to WSU. He was number 7, but I can't pick him out from your shots. Which one is he?

Picked up a few cards this week. Can't quite get the high grades like you guys, but all three present well. Remodel is done so now I have a little cash to continue my project of getting all HOFers from 1935 to 1963. From 1964 on I have complete raw sets.

Starr is so hard to get centered. A bit of a tilt, but the price was right for a 7



Great centering on the Army great!



Karras was a hero of mine as a kids. He was past his playing days, but on every lousy 70's comedy on tv.



Tony

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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 5:23 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

The people in the 1932 snapshots are from left to right, top to bottom

Top Left Sheet
Red Badgro, Jim Bowdoin, Dale Burnett
Chris Cagle, Glenn Campbell, Stu Clancy
Pop Fabian, Tiny Feather, Ray Flaherty

Top Right Sheet
Butch Gibson, Len Grant, Mel Hein
Jack McBride, Potsy Jones, Tex Irvin
Lee Mulleneaux, Hap Moran, Bo Moldenda

Botton Left Sheet
George Munday, Mickey Murtagh, Bill Owen
Steve Owen, Charlie Porter, Bill Ryston
Otto Vokaty, schedule, Hap Moran




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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 7:41 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

sweet stuff guys!


got this in today..


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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 8:25 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Went to a card show yesterday right around the corner from me
Most of the dealers had alot of vintage baseball/football, one dealer had a complete 1948 leaf football set, I almost drooled on it when I was going thru that set..lol




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Mr Mint was at the show so before leaving I had to get a autograph.....lol









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Date Posted: Mar/09/2009 8:51 PM
Posted By: bbcemporium (Veteran)

A quick question for the football buffs, how much value would a complete 71 & 72 topps football set have in average condition NM-MT?
Thanks

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 10:50 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< sweet stuff guys!


got this in today..
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Stautner's got the best jaw in football. I think he was a coach with the Vikings in the 60's??? Was watching NFL films and he was one of the coaches in the background and it was unmistakably him. Nice pick up.

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 10:55 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< A quick question for the football buffs, how much value would a complete 71 & 72 topps football set have in average condition NM-MT?
Thanks
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Not too much for the 71 set, but the 72 set 1-351 can go for anywhere between $1200 to $2000 as long as the high series is in NM-MT. With the stars graded could go about $2500.

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 1:04 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Regarding Mel Hein, here is another picture of him front and center with the ball as Captain of the Giants en route to play the Green Bay Packers for the 1939 Championship -



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Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 3:04 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< Regarding Mel Hein, here is another picture of him front and center with the ball as Captain of the Giants en route to play the Green Bay Packers for the 1939 Championship -

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That's awesome! Charter member of the HOF.

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Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 8:10 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Best Thread EVER! A nice mix of classic football cards and vintage oddball stuff I would probably never see otherwise.

mcolney1 - that Brown is phenomenal regardless what the slab says. The black background looks far more vibrant than many I have seen.

BDB - Dig those Kellogg Peps... and that Gallopin' Ghost doesn't exactly suck.

This comes from 1974, so I guess it qualifies as vintage... it is from the WFL, so the "football" part may be questioned by some.



I have been searching for WFL stuff for over 2 years and this was the first time I ever saw these. I picked up a couple sheets in one shot for very little money compared to most offerings on this thread, but for a defunct football buff, this is pretty cool. The sticker sheet measures a little over 8 x 6 and was from the first WFL season. Many of the teams ended the season with different names/logos or didn't finish the season at all.

Keep them coming guys!

Snorto~



Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 10:36 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< Best Thread EVER! A nice mix of classic football cards and vintage oddball stuff I would probably never see otherwise.

mcolney1 - that Brown is phenomenal regardless what the slab says. The black background looks far more vibrant than many I have seen.

BDB - Dig those Kellogg Peps... and that Gallopin' Ghost doesn't exactly suck.

This comes from 1974, so I guess it qualifies as vintage... it is from the WFL, so the "football" part may be questioned by some.



I have been searching for WFL stuff for over 2 years and this was the first time I ever saw these. I picked up a couple sheets in one shot for very little money compared to most offerings on this thread, but for a defunct football buff, this is pretty cool. The sticker sheet measures a little over 8 x 6 and was from the first WFL season. Many of the teams ended the season with different names/logos or didn't finish the season at all.

Keep them coming guys!

That's awesome. I loved the WFL. When I was a kid my mom was a huge football fan and Csonka fan so we would watch WFL games. I think we had to tune (that is twist the dial to get the station to come in for you young guys) the dial to find the weak signaled local non-network station to get the games. Took me 30 years to finally figure out their first down marker system...very ingenious. I remember seeing a couple of WFL balls in ebay years ago. I wish I would have picked one up. Tony

Snorto~
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Date Posted: Mar/10/2009 10:48 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Got to love the trippy orange stripes...



Gary Davidson was high... but it was the 70's... everyone was.

Snorto~



Date Posted: Mar/11/2009 10:58 AM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)



<< Got to love the trippy orange stripes...



Gary Davidson was high... but it was the 70's... everyone was.

Snorto~
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That ball is cool. What a claim to fame to the commissioner of the WFL. I'd love to have one of those balls.

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Date Posted: Mar/11/2009 1:12 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

what was their marker system, snorto?
John

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Date Posted: Mar/11/2009 4:29 PM
Posted By: mcolney1 (Veteran)

I got this off of wikipedia: Got to love the name DICKEROD!

"The "Dickerod." Instead of using a ten-yard chain strung between two sticks for measuring first down yardage, the WFL used a device called the "Dickerod," obstensibly named for its inventor. This was a single stick, roughly ten feet tall, mounted on a base which allowed it to pivot from side to side. The stick was swung down to ground level when a first down was being set, and a marker that slid along the shaft was fixed in place to line up with the nearest gridiron line (the major yard lines spaced every five yards). When that was set, the stick was swung back to the upright position. When a measurement was needed by the officials, the Dickerod was brought out to the ball position, the shaft swung down to ground level, the marker lined up with the nearest gridiron line, and the measurement was taken. (In all other forms of football today, a similar marker is clipped to the standard ten-yard chain, also lining up with a gridiron line.)"

Personally, I think the wikipedia explanation is wrong. I think the rod was only five yards long, not ten yards long. For example, if the ball is on the two yard line and the first down is the 12 yard line all you need to do is put the down marker on the goal line, lay down the Dickerod and slide the marker up the Dickerod two yards to where the ball is (the marker is similar to the marker on current first down chains). Then move the down marker to the 12 yard line, drop the Dickerod and line up the marker with the 10 yard line, now the first down marker is in the correct spot...not the best explanation, but I think that's how it worked.

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Date Posted: Apr/03/2009 2:03 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

new pick up - front, photo, and back from Jan 16, 1926 program



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Date Posted: Apr/13/2009 2:22 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Well I figured it was time to bring back our Football thread by showing off my newest purchase! ( Very Proud of BTW ) As some of you know I have completely changed my focus as far as collecting goes...

This one is a beauty as far as Im concerned and about $575 cheaper than the 7 that I recently unloaded.




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Date Posted: Apr/13/2009 3:51 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

that is a great 5 Paul..Congrats! Is there a hairline crease or something? Looks NICE! Will look even nicer in a Black holder.

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Date Posted: Apr/13/2009 3:58 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Paul good luck on your new collection I think your gonna be far happier hunting for new additions when you don't think so much about the grades.

Great Gifford Rc!!

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Date Posted: Apr/13/2009 3:58 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< that is a great 5 Paul..Congrats! Is there a hairline crease or something? Looks NICE! Will look even nicer in a Black holder. >>



Thanks Ryan, I wil let you know once I receive it. Im inclined to say no though, I had a very nice Glen Christian from my 52 set that was a 3 because of a microscopic crease otherwise it would have been a 5 or 6.


Yes it will look nice in a black holder, Im thinking of crossing a few other "Keepers" as well.


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Date Posted: Apr/13/2009 4:00 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)



<< Paul good luck on your new collection I think your gonna be far happier hunting for new additions when you don't think so much about the grades.

Great Gifford Rc!!
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Thank You Mark! As I PM'ed Ryan, Im ecstatic to be joyfully card hunting again instead of stressfully card hunting!

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Date Posted: Apr/14/2009 2:08 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Got these in today:



This Tunnell RC is going to go to SGC for a bump (hopefully) looks like an 8 to me!



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Date Posted: Apr/14/2009 2:48 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Tha Tunnell is a great looking card! Much better than his '52


Very Nice as usual Ryan, I look forward to picking up one very soon.

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Date Posted: Apr/15/2009 9:31 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< Tha Tunnell is a great looking card! Much better than his '52


Very Nice as usual Ryan, I look forward to picking up one very soon.
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Ditto that BDB, great looking card, should cross nicely.

Slowly but surely picking up a few 48's. There has been a great run of solid cards going for great prices lately. Soooo tough to find these centered so every chance I get to pick a nice one up i grab it.



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Date Posted: Apr/15/2009 9:59 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

that is a killer 48!

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Date Posted: Apr/15/2009 10:16 PM
Posted By: Ahmanfan (Expert Collector)

WOW nice '48 cloud!
John

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Date Posted: Apr/16/2009 4:47 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



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Date Posted: Apr/17/2009 10:25 AM
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Date Posted: Apr/17/2009 10:38 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Damn Ryan, that is one of the nicest bowmans ive seen. great cards man, congrats!

joe

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Date Posted: Apr/17/2009 11:11 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Damn Ryan, that is one of the nicest bowmans ive seen. great cards man, congrats!

joe
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Thanks Joe. I just LOVE the Doak Walker...it is definately a keeper! The eye appeal is just stunning on it.

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 1:04 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

today's mail..



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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 3:20 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Thats what Im talking about Ryan! AWESOME looking 5!! That should cross nicely into a black backround holder


Now that you own EVERY Bowman card are Chicles next?

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 3:37 PM
Posted By: ssdawg77 (Veteran)

My son and I just started a raw '57 set. It is my first football set and the first forray into card collecting at all for my son. Here are some cards we picked up over the weekend. He chose the set and the cards the only thing I got to do was pay for it, but it was worth every penny to do a project with my son. Some of you may have seen the scans and read the story from a thread I started Sunday but I thought I would share it again for those who may have missed it.














We still have some work to do with the set and alot to learn about the issue and players but I am looking forward to the time we will spend together.

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 3:43 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Wow, that is a nice looking group of '57's! Nice to hear your son and you are doing it together, good stuff!


Thanks for sharing!

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 6:21 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)



<< Thats what Im talking about Ryan! AWESOME looking 5!! That should cross nicely into a black backround holder


Now that you own EVERY Bowman card are Chicles next?
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Thanks Paul....it will probably make its way to the dark side soon!

I don't own EVERY Bowman...YET!!!!!! Lord am I trying though.

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 7:00 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Great looking card Ryan!
I hope to add a centered psa 4 of that card to my set soon.



Today's addition to hof set




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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 7:04 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Thanks..that is a Great looking 6 Lary.....those 52 smalls are great values...much more scarce than the large...and a fraction of the cost.

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Date Posted: Apr/23/2009 7:20 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Ive been watching the Bowman large rc's but there is always a bidding frenzy whenever centered hof rc's come up.
For now I've been slowly picking up the small's

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Date Posted: Apr/27/2009 1:42 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Love the Vintage football - On one of the other threads in these forums someone asked the question - which card that you've sold are you most sorry about? In there was a picture of an 1888 Goodwin Champions of Beecher of Yale - which I never paid much attention to before, but reading up I see is considered the first football card. A few months ago I bought two photos of Yale football teams and realize that this same player, Beecher, is sitting front and center in one of them - and along with him in the picture are two members of the first All American football team, AA Stagg and Charles O. Gill. I'm thinking I've hit the far edge of vintage



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Date Posted: Apr/27/2009 3:20 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

great pic rev..thats about as vintage as football is going to get!

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Date Posted: Apr/30/2009 10:57 PM
Posted By: elsnorto (Collector)

Best thread... EVER!

Picked up a lot of these a while back on a whim. I planned on putting the set together, but some of the big prize game pieces are about impossible to find.

These are 1966 American Oil All Pro Stamps, about the size of a postage stamp, with uber-realistic helmets drawn on headshot photos. These were game pieces handed out at American Oil gas stations... think McDonald's Monopoly... only without hydrogenated fat.





Keep them coming guys!

Snorto~



Date Posted: May/01/2009 9:32 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Very cool stamps snorto. Ive seen those before, but its been a long time, and no where near the condition yours are in.

Another brick in the wall of my 48 leaf set. Almost to the half way mark, and if I look in my rear view mirror, i see OTW Eat it Scott!!



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Date Posted: May/03/2009 3:43 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Love those stamps, Those helmets are crazy lol. Publius thats a great looking Leaf! What an amazing Football collection you have!

To add to this thread here is a recent addition to my hof rc set
One of my favorite looking Bowman cards "Crazy Legs"





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Date Posted: May/04/2009 8:59 AM
Posted By: rexvos (Collector)

a few defensive rookies from th 80s.





After finishing my 69 set I have just been adding some rookies here and there, toying with starting both the 84 Topps set and 84 Topps USFL sets.

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Date Posted: May/04/2009 9:30 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)



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Date Posted: May/04/2009 9:31 AM
Posted By: stown (Choose Your Title)

1,000!



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Date Posted: May/04/2009 7:14 PM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Picked this up on eBay - Princeton 1899 - interesting for a couple of reasons - Arthur Poe is in there, but the guy holding the ball is Bill Edwards - recently bought a signed copy of his book "Football Days" He has an interesting bio on the College Hall of Fame website (below the photo)



Bill Edwards was a guard at Princeton, but the most important tackle he ever made in his life would come long after he set aside his Orange and Black uniform. Edwards won international accalim in 1910 when he tackled and subdued a would-be assassin who had attempted to take the life of New York Mayor William Gaynor. The Mayor was shot and seriously wounded but survived the assassination attempt. Edwards suffered a flesh wound in the arm and was later awarded the Carnegie Medal for Heroism. Edwards'act of bravery was in character. He was a man of great proportion - in excess of 220 pounds - but a soft heart pulsed within his bear-like frame. He was extremely dedicated to each goal he would set for himself. A college diploma was one of those goals as Edwards worked his way through Princeton, gaining gridiron fame along the way. In 1900, he was named class orator and served as master of ceremonies on Graduation Day. He later became a referee and authored a book entitled "Football Days." President Woodrow Wilson appointed Edwards as Collector of Internal Revenue for New York's Second District. Edwards also served as president of the American Professional Football League from 1926 to 1929. He played four years at Princeton and was captain in 1899.

Here's his picture from the cover of Time magazine - he bulked up in the pre-steroid days when it was all bourbon, beer, and beef!



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Date Posted: May/04/2009 10:19 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<<

Bill Edwards was a guard at Princeton, but the most important tackle he ever made in his life would come long after he set aside his Orange and Black uniform. Edwards won international accalim in 1910 when he tackled and subdued a would-be assassin who had attempted to take the life of New York Mayor William Gaynor. The Mayor was shot and seriously wounded but survived the assassination attempt. Edwards suffered a flesh wound in the arm and was later awarded the Carnegie Medal for Heroism. Edwards'act of bravery was in character. He was a man of great proportion - in excess of 220 pounds - but a soft heart pulsed within his bear-like frame. He was extremely dedicated to each goal he would set for himself. A college diploma was one of those goals as Edwards worked his way through Princeton, gaining gridiron fame along the way. In 1900, he was named class orator and served as master of ceremonies on Graduation Day. He later became a referee and authored a book entitled "Football Days." President Woodrow Wilson appointed Edwards as Collector of Internal Revenue for New York's Second District. Edwards also served as president of the American Professional Football League from 1926 to 1929. He played four years at Princeton and was captain in 1899.

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Revmoran,
Im diggin' the cut of your jib lately man (sorry, Ive been watching Family Guy all weekend)

That is a very cool photo, and the story that goes with it is all the more amazing. Thanks for posting that!



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Date Posted: May/05/2009 11:55 AM
Posted By: revmoran (Senior Member)

Here's another eBay pick up - a Benny Friedman color photo from the Chicago Tribune, 1926



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Date Posted: May/06/2009 3:05 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

cool stuff Rev!

I've been anxiously waiting for these!







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Date Posted: May/06/2009 3:11 PM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)

Nice pickups Ryan, absolutely perfect! That Lujack has always been one of my favorite poses in football.

Always reminds me of Unitas




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Date Posted: May/06/2009 10:56 PM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Wow those Leafs are unreal! and that Unitas pic is a beautiful shot!
Thanks for sharing

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Date Posted: May/07/2009 11:22 AM
Posted By: fergie23 (Collector)

Not sure this really qualifies as vintage but recently got this from Memory Lane.

Robb





Date Posted: May/07/2009 11:30 AM
Posted By: bsidegrve (Veteran)

Thats vintage in my book and one of the best Staubach Rc's Ive seen wow!!!

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Date Posted: May/08/2009 12:20 PM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Very nice stuff guys! As some of you know Im out of the Grading game and sticking with lower grade stuff, here is my latest pickup. Certainly your run of the mill 5 but it is my favorite Waterfield card...







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Date Posted: May/08/2009 4:15 PM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

Can't beat a great looking Waterfield card! Nice pick-up Paul.



Another 49 Leaf came in today..waiting for one more


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Date Posted: May/08/2009 4:35 PM
Posted By: Davemri (Collector)

My most recent pickup thanks to Mr. Joey Squires...



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Date Posted: May/10/2009 6:21 AM
Posted By: perkdog (Vintage Football Collector)

Random LA Rams player but a fantastic looking action shot! Couldnt resist this one....




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Date Posted: May/10/2009 8:44 AM
Posted By: Publius (Collector)



<< My most recent pickup thanks to Mr. Joey Squires...

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Without a doubt, THE nicest 6 Ive ever seen

This thread has some legs lately, nice pickups Paul (PP, pronounced pee-pee) and Ryan!

joe

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Date Posted: May/10/2009 9:14 AM
Posted By: BigDaddyBowman (Collector)

I think the early 50's Rams cards have the greatest eye appeal of all. great colors and many great shots. The 51 Younger is one I have been looking for for a while. The Zilly may be the BEST action shot of all. Nice Pickup Paul!




Outstanding Baugh Dave!

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