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a fellow numismatist slid a stack of 10 of these over to me to keep after a few hours of good/informative conversation. long story short.
many different dies as well with various strength of spread.
i'll be compiling a list for as many foreign doubled/tripled etc dies (mainly 1800-now) and have a couple people to work with to get a heck of a start (with images) so if you know of any existing sources/lists etc and can point me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it.
without further ado:
changed images to links so that the images wont have to load for everyone visiting the thread.
the quick way to view these is to hold ctrl and left click the links if your settings have them open in a new tab and provided your device has
good processing + ram although the image size in kb is very small for the dimensions.
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LAST UPDATE TO THIS THREAD - 5-29-15 - so you will know if there is something new or not.
spreadsheet image - last updated 5-7-15
ddo, ddr, tdo, tdr, etc
* - denotes ddr
** - denotes far spread of doubling
brazil (12) -
2000 1 centavo* - 2000 1 centavo** - 1997 5 centavos* - 2001 5 centavos - 2002 5 centavos* - 2002 5 centavos**
2002 5 centavos - 2007 5 centavos - 2010 5 centavos - 2000 10 centavos** - 2001 10 centavos - 2001 10 centavos -
ruler name ddo comp -
chile (1) - 1957 peso -
china (1) - 1942-yr31 50 cent -
india (2) - 2004 rupee** - 2009 rupee
mexico (2) - 1978 peso - 1978 peso -
netherlands (1) - 1894 25 cent -
panama (1) - 1907 med cen de bal -
sudan (1) - 1973 5 millim** -
spain (4) - 1957-60 5 pesetas - 1957-60 5 pesetas - 1957-60 5 pesetas - 1957-60 50 pesetas -
uruguay (2) - 1994 20 cent** - 1994 20 cent-obv/rev** -
yugo (1) - 1979 2 dinar -
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r.p.d.
colombia - 1978 5 Centavos -
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clashed dies
brazil - 1994 10 centavos wow - 2002 5 centavos - 2004 5 centavos -
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cud/pre-cud, big die chips
india - 2008 5 rupees - 2009 2 rupees -
brazil - 2003 5 centavos - 2004 5 centavos - 2006 10 centavos - 2008 10 centavos -
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overpolished/re-engraved
mexico - 1974 peso -
a fellow numismatist slid a stack of 10 of these over to me to keep after a few hours of good/informative conversation. long story short.
many different dies as well with various strength of spread.
i'll be compiling a list for as many foreign doubled/tripled etc dies (mainly 1800-now) and have a couple people to work with to get a heck of a start (with images) so if you know of any existing sources/lists etc and can point me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it.
without further ado:
changed images to links so that the images wont have to load for everyone visiting the thread.
the quick way to view these is to hold ctrl and left click the links if your settings have them open in a new tab and provided your device has
good processing + ram although the image size in kb is very small for the dimensions.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LAST UPDATE TO THIS THREAD - 5-29-15 - so you will know if there is something new or not.
spreadsheet image - last updated 5-7-15
ddo, ddr, tdo, tdr, etc
* - denotes ddr
** - denotes far spread of doubling
brazil (12) -
2000 1 centavo* - 2000 1 centavo** - 1997 5 centavos* - 2001 5 centavos - 2002 5 centavos* - 2002 5 centavos**
2002 5 centavos - 2007 5 centavos - 2010 5 centavos - 2000 10 centavos** - 2001 10 centavos - 2001 10 centavos -
ruler name ddo comp -
chile (1) - 1957 peso -
china (1) - 1942-yr31 50 cent -
india (2) - 2004 rupee** - 2009 rupee
mexico (2) - 1978 peso - 1978 peso -
netherlands (1) - 1894 25 cent -
panama (1) - 1907 med cen de bal -
sudan (1) - 1973 5 millim** -
spain (4) - 1957-60 5 pesetas - 1957-60 5 pesetas - 1957-60 5 pesetas - 1957-60 50 pesetas -
uruguay (2) - 1994 20 cent** - 1994 20 cent-obv/rev** -
yugo (1) - 1979 2 dinar -
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r.p.d.
colombia - 1978 5 Centavos -
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clashed dies
brazil - 1994 10 centavos wow - 2002 5 centavos - 2004 5 centavos -
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cud/pre-cud, big die chips
india - 2008 5 rupees - 2009 2 rupees -
brazil - 2003 5 centavos - 2004 5 centavos - 2006 10 centavos - 2008 10 centavos -
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overpolished/re-engraved
mexico - 1974 peso -
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World Collection
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Check the "World coin variety" thread from a few weeks ago to find at least one other person interested in building such a list.
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=940951
<< <i>Lance,
Check the "World coin variety" thread from a few weeks ago to find at least one other person interested in building such a list.
http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=940951 >>
ty.
did some forum and google searches but didnt turn up anything yet.
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<< <i>Excellent pictures- thanks for posting >>
ty and yw. not my best photography effort but the images seemed to suffice.
i'll be ecstatic to post some of the major ones in a few weeks if all goes well.
seen some that make these seem minor. no BS!
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well, here is step 1 in its raw and pure form.
just thought i'd share what i have before the madness starts.
there will be images but i tend to do a lot at once so updates will come in randomly and far apart but in mass quantity.
i'll be snagging the info when and where i can. once a few months goes by and i visit some foreign coin dealers, it will be interesting to see what is already out there and whom is willing to share.
most images will be high quality, large in dimensions ie: 1000x1000 but small in size kb/mb. - check out the image size of the ones in the op.
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this seems to be one of the official listings for foreign die varieties. not just doubling/trip. etc.
Variety Coin Register via ken potter and
National Collectors Association of Die Doubling-NCADD
Combined Organizations of Numismatic Error Collectors of America-CONECA
examples of the designations look like the following:
VCR#1/DDR#1
VCR#1/DDO#1
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<< <i>See if you can just delete 27 as it is the same as 28... The 1965 Churchill Crown DDO was submitted, verified and graded MS65 by ICG >>
ok.
the list has grown and been separated into about a dozen excel tabs by continent, country. still working on an efficient way to do that.
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just for those that havent seen this before. coneca site for some first reported monsters.
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found the uruguay with both sides weakly and strongly doubled separately as well as together.
will post pics when i get a chance.
i'm probably gonna track over/under types just because it gives me a good excuse to make some cool overlays.
existing over-strike listing
existing thread
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here are a couple with both sides.
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ok, the op is updated and seriously cleaned up.
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i'm going to post a brazillian monster i just found and after that i will be putting this project in the hands of the viewers.
after the brazil monster, i won't post another one until someone else does (and so on and so forth) and if others participate, the list should grow nicely but it will be up to you.
i'll probably post images tonight but tomorrow morning at the latest.
edited to add friday evening: long day on the road and a shorter day on th road tomorrow. so tomorrow evening is looking better. dog tired tonight from running all day. goosd/fun day though.
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ok
i hope you are as impressed by the brazil coin as i.
images linked in the op.
have some others to post but we'll see if anyone has some to contribute first.
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cool.
new brazil ddr added.
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i hope someone posts something soon as i picked up a whole mess of em today!
a couple i am very stoked about but it could just be my own madness.
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well my desire to share has overrun my desire to wait.
brazil ddr 1 cent posted
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any feedback about the new layout?
looks cleaners/more efficient. also, obv/rev images have been combined and enlarged in dimensions but reduced in size (kb) for faster loading time.
if i hold control and left click all the links, i can open every image in a few seconds and this includes loading time.
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anyone else hear crickets?
are we not gonna get some action until i post my aluminum chile ddo or the sudan one?
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few more added
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mex and india added.
still toying with adding over/under-types, cuds and rpd. depends if i can find enough to make it interesting.
the 2001 brazil 5 cent shows strong doubling on other parts of the coin even when it isn't found on BRASIL.
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I suspect the traffic has been heavier than what is reflected-
Great work- I appreciate the time and effort that you have put into this
Clearly worthy of a DPOTD- I can't even remember the last time one was handed out.
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<< <i>I feel bad for not looking at the spreadsheet layout update earlier- I think it looks great >>
no worries. i post stuff online to be here at the convenience of others. it needs another big update. not as clean or as thorough as i like but we're getting there.
<< <i>I suspect the traffic has been heavier than what is reflected- >>
probably. i learned long ago that lack of responses is not indicative of lack of interest/success. i read tons of good threads i dont respond to.
<< <i>Great work- I appreciate the time and effort that you have put into this >>
yw and ty.
<< <i>Clearly worthy of a DPOTD- I can't even remember the last time one was handed out. >>
kudos. that acronym is not on my list nor can i find it anywhere. lol
deadliest post of the day?
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edited to add:
with a little searching and some logic, i think dpotd is - darkside post of the day?
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It was one of those things started... I dunno 8-10 years ago and is sort of fun
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added a few but pay special attention to that 1994 brazil date-clasher. yowza.
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<< <i>the 2001 brazil 5 cent shows strong doubling on other parts of the coin even when it isn't found on BRASIL.
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i've found cabral, tiradentes and pedro doubled w/o brasil or any other features, at least noticeably.
i should make an image comp showing just the ruler's name. fwiw
picking out ddos with only features like that is reserved for the most insane/ocd and/or the sharpest eyes.
i say sharpest eyes as i look through hundreds of pounds of mixed foreign buckets to find this crapola.
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<< <i>i've found cabral, tiradentes and pedro doubled w/o brasil or any other features, at least noticeably. >>
still havent found any 25 cent brazil doubled dies yet. grrr
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No updates form my searches at the moment-
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ttt
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In this thread, I learned what DPOTD means.
Maybe I'll also learn what OCC means....
I got it! Other Country's Coins.