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1809 O-113 bust half - Grade's in!

Obverse looks gradable to me.

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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭
    Looks like it could be a rare DM. Where's the reverse?
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    ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    sure looks like a pretty chunk of silver
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    image is out of focus some and tough to call on


    candidly off this image as supplied
    it looks about right to grade
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    looks OK to me, nice EF+ coin. Impurities in the planchet metal show on the reverse, as is pretty common on these coins.
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    QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    O-113A R-5...Looks like it will grade to me!

    Nice find! image

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine and Gradeable.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think so...

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    luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    I see no problems with it getting a grade.

    Nice coin.
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,078 ✭✭✭
    The only reason it may not grade is due to the planchet issues on the reverse.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>O-113A R-5...Looks like it will grade to me!

    Nice find! image

    QN >>

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    Looks gradable unless someone doesn't like the dark holes on the back and call it details.
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    zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    I see it more as an O.113, not the "a" die state, as it's missing the FULL crack from the edge to the leaves toward the claw and CA of the O.113. I don't see the additional cracks listed for the "a" state. Nevertheless, I think it might grade and it will come in at a higher grade than most specimens.

    For fun, here's the O.113 I pulled off of ebay a few years back, if anything just to compare the cracks.

    GREAT FIND!! Congrats.
    Zap

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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Nice find, zap, I see where you found it in 08? How did it grade?
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great job finding the rarities as usual!
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    zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    coin22lover,

    I've not submitted this coin or any other yet. Just keeping them all raw until I've got the time and funds to go through all of that fun. I consider it to be an EF 40, retoning after a light cleaning. Yeah, it was probably 2008 or so when I found it and grabbed it, then posted it for comments. It is one of my favorite coins. It has some luster remaining in the devices. I'm jealous for your find, though. I'm hoping it will grade for you. I suspect it will - it's a reaaaaaally nice coin.

    zap
    zap1111
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭

    .

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats!
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭
    Cool. You should keep one of your cherrypicks for once; this a hard DM to find in such a high grade.
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    congrats

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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Anything think the planchet flaws held it back from a 45 holder?
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin! image
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,513 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice coin! image >>

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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Trueviews finally posted. Thanks for the compliments!
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,212 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Nice coin! image >>

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    zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    Congratulations. This is a very strong and a great pick. Wow.
    zap
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Thanks again Zap.. I think ours have very similar details, though I agree that yours probably has a light cleaning. Still can't complain, can you?
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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice Bustie!
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    No one else has a 113? Post em if you've got em!
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭


    << <i>No one else has a 113? Post em if you've got em! >>



    I don't, but I have O.114. What makes this coin special is that it's a "prime" die state which no die cracks on either side. Most of the examples I see sold as "O.114" have some form of die cracks on the reverse, which means they're really "O.114a". To be a true O.114, the coin must have no die cracks.

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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    That's very nice, Brian. Might as well turn this into a general 1809 thread. Here's an 1809 prime O-110 (R6). Worth high 3-figures.

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    GoBustGoBust Posts: 586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very important coin in this grade in a PCGS holder. The die marriage was unknown in mint state until Matt at NFC found one in PCGS MS62 in 2013. I believe there are three in lower grades of AU that are holdered at PCGS now. This wonderful; cherry should be worth $3500 to $4000 if auctioned in the appropriate venue such as a Sheridan Downey die marriage auction. CC: I think is MS62, AU55, AU53, AU50 then XF for this very sticky rare die marriage and grade level rarity.

    1813 O-113a PCGS MS62 Finest Known

    Its really a terrific find and appears to be near perfect for grade. Congrats!!

    One of a bevy of tough 1809 die marriages. If anyone has an O-114 in AU or better I'd appreciate if you would reach out to me. Its the one I need to get all the die marriages into AU graded holders at PCGS. image


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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,513 ✭✭✭✭✭
    congrats on that image
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    that is a good one. Each die state is likely an R6 (cobining for an R5).

    1809 O-113's rarely appear on the market
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭


    << <i>that is a good one. Each die state is likely an R6 (cobining for an R5).

    1809 O-113's rarely appear on the market >>




    Sounds about right. Maybe an R6 for the 113 and R6- for the 113a. One of the few true R5's left (being honest, many of the other R5's are probably R5- to even R4+ by now)
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Very important coin in this grade in a PCGS holder. The die marriage was unknown in mint state until Matt at NFC found one in PCGS MS62 in 2013. I believe there are three in lower grades of AU that are holdered at PCGS now. This wonderful; cherry should be worth $3500 to $4000 if auctioned in the appropriate venue such as a Sheridan Downey die marriage auction. CC: I think is MS62, AU55, AU53, AU50 then XF for this very sticky rare die marriage and grade level rarity.

    1813 O-113a PCGS MS62 Finest Known

    Its really a terrific find and appears to be near perfect for grade. Congrats!!

    One of a bevy of tough 1809 die marriages. If anyone has an O-114 in AU or better I'd appreciate if you would reach out to me. Its the one I need to get all the die marriages into AU graded holders at PCGS. image >>




    Thanks for the reply! Hopefully someone will come along with the O-114 AU that you need. Is your registry set open for viewing?
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    GoBustGoBust Posts: 586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The die marriage varieties are listed in PCGS coin facts.

    Excellent cherry once again!

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