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DEFINITE Credit Card Fraud Alert (dealers - use caution!)

nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭
Dealers, if you receive any phone or web orders from Grand Island, Nebraska, please contact me. We received a phone order last month for a gold coin. We got a credit card match, but something just didn't sit right about it. An email to the buyer requesting additional verification of their identity was not returned.

We just received a web order today from someone with a different name but the same address. This was for an expensive Colonial coin (1796 Castorland Medal), which is not a typical coin we see involved in bogus orders. Again, a credit card match. I'm not sure what's going on, but these orders are highly suspect and almost definitely fraudulent. Do not settle for just a credit card match!

Updated to add: We have now received, via PNG, confirmation that these orders are no good. Unfortunately, a dealer shipped a coin to them a few weeks ago and the "buyers" have filed a fraudulent chargeback. Here's the full address for these crooks:

729 Church Rd
Grand Island, NE 68801

The details of the coin obtained via the fraudulent chargeback is as follows:

1840-C $2.5 PCGS AU50 Cert ID: 25276374




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  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Do not settle for just a credit card match!

    I agree. We are seeing an increase in fraudulent orders via the website and via email requests. Normally they ask for 2 or 3 ounces of gold (Krands or Maples), but lately they are moving into numismatic items, such as BU $20 generic Saints, etc.

    On an order that I feel is suspicious, I use Google Earth to find the address to see what the neighborhood is like. Then I Google the name and/or address to see what other information I can gather. Next I call the person who ordered and I start asking questions, such as, "would you like to cancel the order and mail us a check for a discount on your order?" I ask other questions as well. Almost every time it is fraudulent, and on those orders I never ship the coins. After a couple of weeks they will call and ask where the gold is. Then I tell them that their credit card company flagged their card as stolen, and that's where they disappear. Scum bags.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scary.

    I don't take credit cards and never will.
    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Scary.

    I don't take credit cards and never will. >>




    Yup

    I have a cap on the amount I'll accept and it's a short cap.



    Thank you NEN for the heads up!


  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭
    Scary! Lot's of crooks and not enough prisons image
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm with numisma

    Google this address...apartment. Not that folks in apartments can't afford super expensive coins, but it raises the red flag level a bit more.

    I've had bad orders for as little as $300 off my website in the last year or so. They keep trying to order...same address (shabby looking house) different name and different credit card. The cards never match up perfectly, so no coins go out.
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks NEN!
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good idea to google the address and get a look on street view.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmmmm, … a fraudster coming out of my home state ? The boys in blue will be on him like stink on _ _ _ _. I trust. Let's hope.

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