Encapsulation Damage?

Broadstruck · October 16, 2014 11:39PM

What do y'all say... Did the prong bend over the excess white metal wire rim on this token

Yacorie1 · October 16, 2014 11:50PM

Knowing nothing about that specific coin - I'm saying yes. You'll never convince me that the prong just happens to be an absolute perfect match for that damage, unless of course, that's a new holder and the old one did the damage

CaptHenway · October 16, 2014 11:54PM

Sure looks like it.

BustHalfBrian · October 17, 2014 12:11AM

I don't know the texture of this metal or under what pressure it will bend, but it seems like an unlikely scenario.

Broadstruck · October 17, 2014 12:19AM

<< I don't know the texture of this metal or under what pressure it will bend, but it seems like an unlikely scenario. >>

White metal is very soft and would be quite fragile being thin.

FredWeinberg · October 17, 2014 12:24AM

I'd say Yes -

Bingo - the prong was in the 'perfect' area to do it.

JRocco · October 17, 2014 12:46AM

Ouch

OldEastside · October 17, 2014 12:49AM

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<< I don't know the texture of this metal or under what pressure it will bend, but it seems like an unlikely scenario. >>

White metal is very soft and would be quite fragile being thin. >>

Steve

CaptHenway · October 17, 2014 1:20AM

The moral of the story is, don't slab medals with fragile wire rims.

Or High Relief $20's, either.

johnny9434 · October 17, 2014 5:20AM

thats not a good thing

19Lyds · October 17, 2014 7:08AM

<< I'd say Yes -

Bingo - the prong was in the 'perfect' area to do it. >>

You'd think that someone would have paid attention to what was occurring as to why the coin may have been a bit hesitant to go into the insert?

coinkat · October 17, 2014 9:46AM

Wow...

Proof that a picture is worth a thousand words... and even more... yikes

goodmoney4badmoney · October 17, 2014 10:41AM

Two error coins that I submitted that had thin metal areas were bent by the gasket of a slab (not PCGS). Looks like we have another victim here.

LanceNewmanOCC · October 17, 2014 10:59AM

<< Did the prong bend over the excess white metal wire rim on this token

] >>

nope. no worry there.
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lasvegasteddy · October 17, 2014 11:35AM

sad things happen to nice coins...this looks like another example here...

AMRC · October 17, 2014 11:42AM

Ok, now there is something you do not see everyday.

Broadstruck · October 17, 2014 1:34PM

Well on the bright side we now have a new term... PSD = Post Slab Damage

Shame as it needs to come out of the holder anyway since it was encapsulated with active PVC growth on both the obverse & reverse.

blu62vette · October 17, 2014 2:44PM

I have heard of the prong holders bending some tokens also.

LochNESS · October 17, 2014 3:05PM

<< The moral of the story is, don't slab medals with fragile wire rims.

Or High Relief $20's, either. >>

I thought buying raw rare gold was ill advised

messydesk · October 17, 2014 3:47PM

I was expecting to see a California gold, as I've heard those have been periodic victims of ED (encapsulation damage, thank you). Nasty what happened to this one.

BLUEJAYWAY · October 17, 2014 4:13PM

So what does this do to the value? Is there any recourse for the owner? For error submissions are there "custom" holders that allow for errors to be encapsulated w/o damaging the error coin?

CaptHenway · October 17, 2014 11:25PM

<< I was expecting to see a California gold, as I've heard those have been periodic victims of ED (encapsulation damage, thank you). Nasty what happened to this one. >>

Indeed. I have seen Cal Gold bent by slabbing.

ricko · October 18, 2014 6:10AM

Too bad..... the very purpose of slabbing is preservation.....Cheers, RickO

SullivanNumismatics · October 18, 2014 6:25AM

Yep, looks that way. I've had coins get "bent" when slabbing (error coins.)

LochNESS · October 18, 2014 6:28AM

Possible for one of y'all to post a list of all Types which have history of ED? or have we already covered the topic (errors and some gold)

LanceNewmanOCC · October 22, 2014 5:28PM

<< Well on the bright side we now have a new term... PSD = Post Slab Damage

Shame as it needs to come out of the holder anyway since it was encapsulated with active PVC growth on both the obverse & reverse.
>>

wow, the side with the words (rev?) is pretty obvious.

how sure are you the item wasn't like that pre-slabbing?

i've tinkered with pcgs rubber(?) inserts and i still find it hard to believe that the rings would damage a coin. imo, it isn't that the coins are in there really tight (on average) but that rubber and metal

don't permit much slide. the inserts certainly hold the coins firm but i just can't get there that the pressure is damaging tight? fwiw

either way the item is damaged i guess.
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ms70 · October 22, 2014 9:43PM

I think all TPG's should do away with the edge view gasket. Seeing 50% of the edge does nothing for me & the coins looked better in the holder with the full gasket anyway.

If nothing else they should go back to the old gaskets for coins & tokens that would be susceptible to this sort of damage.

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