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New Trueview of PL branch mint Trade Dollar

OriginalDanOriginalDan Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
I really enjoy finding coins that don't break the bank and aren't even close to condition census quality but are still just really attractive and eye appealing. This one fits the bill for me, recently trueviewed and presented here for discussion.

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I'd like to thank Phil for the great shot of this one, I imagine it wasn't easy to capture. PL Trade Dollars are quite scarce and this one has a really neat look, with fairly mirrored surfaces especially at the perimeter.

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very attractive Trade Dollar. Nice acquisition.
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just an outstanding coin top to bottom.
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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is not always about the grade. Great eye, as this coin has is all.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really nice Trade $1, Dan.
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    nagsnags Posts: 793 ✭✭✭✭
    Tons of eye appeal - Great TD!
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Just a great example that shows people that choice for any given grade really matters more than any given grade save for point chasers.

    The late S mint coins do tend to come proof like as it appears that the tatic of polishing the dies was coming into vogue that carried over into the Morgan series. There just isn't enough survivors of PL trade dollars to make it a speciality unlike Morgan's.
    here are a couple of my late branch mint PL coins none which are not as nice as yours .
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic!
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    bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful!!! I also like that au 1877 as well.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Simply a beautiful Trade Dollar, Dan. You've done it again!

    I have an 1876-P that is PL, not sure how common that is. My 78-s DDR is "somewhat" PL.
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    coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭
    It's absolutely incredible; well done. I like the combination of the PL tendencies and the toning together.
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i like that coin a lot. very nice trade dollar. congrats!
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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love the coin!
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    deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    yes, very nice coin .
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    stealerstealer Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭✭
    Sweet coin Dan, I liked it the first time I saw it.
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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking coin, regardless of grade.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,561 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent coin!
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent pickup!

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    That is absolutely fantastic, what a beautiful coin.
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    OriginalDanOriginalDan Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks to all. I'm most impressed that no one asked the grade. Good job everyone.

    Crypto thank you for showing a few other PL examples. There aren't many out there. Most that I've seen have been P mint coins that are made from retired proof dies, or could be impaired proofs themselves.

    Kaz, there are proof like 76p's out there although they aren't too common. Post a picture if you have one. Here's another PL trade dollar, a 76p that unfortunately had a rougher life and is not mint state. Still a fun coin to hold and still shows plenty of PL flash.

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    Here's another that with semi mirrored surfaces, although it's muted from a dip or two. Some cameo contrast remains and if you look closely you can see the die polish marks around the devices. (it was really over polished.)

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    Sir I would like to thank you for sharing these with us you have made my day better. Now i must go to my sulking corner of a couple of minutes because I have no PL trade Dollars.
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    coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭


    << <i>Just a great example that shows people that choice for any given grade really matters more than any given grade save for point chasers.

    The late S mint coins do tend to come proof like as it appears that the tatic of polishing the dies was coming into vogue that carried over into the Morgan series. There just isn't enough survivors of PL trade dollars to make it a speciality unlike Morgan's.
    here are a couple of my late branch mint PL coins none which are not as nice as yours .
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    While the first coin is lovely, I don't think it would receive a PL designation (based on the images) if PCGS considered these coins for the PL designation. NGC does recognize PL coins, and I don't think they would place it in a PL holder either. Very nice coin!
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    OriginalDanOriginalDan Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NGC does recognize PL coins, and I don't think they would place it in a PL holder either. >>



    I kind of doubt NGC would put any of these in PL holders, the pops for PL trade dollars at NGC Is something like 5 or 6 total for the series. I have a hunch that most of those are probably proofs and not business strikes anyway.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is my 76-P, it is in an older ANACS holder and does not have an official PL designation, in fact I think the grade is AU something or other. as you can see the fields are pretty hairy but it has a lot of flash.
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful piece OriginalDan, has a lot going for it. Sadly, I don't own a single TD.
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭
    Gorgeous!
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    coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭


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    << <i>NGC does recognize PL coins, and I don't think they would place it in a PL holder either. >>



    I kind of doubt NGC would put any of these in PL holders, the pops for PL trade dollars at NGC Is something like 5 or 6 total for the series. I have a hunch that most of those are probably proofs and not business strikes anyway. >>



    There are 25 listed in the NGC census for the series. Some of the pieces I have seen for sale lack the squared rims expected from a proof. I always find it hard to judge depth of mirrors based on photographs, but your coin in the original post looks like it would have a shot. I wish PCGS would start designating non-modern/non-Morgan Dollar coins as PL and DMPL. There are niche collectors, myself included, who actively pursue these.
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    DarkStarDarkStar Posts: 446 ✭✭✭✭
    This one is in a PC63 holder. It's hard to tell due to the depth of the toning, but in hand it is deeply p/l.

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    Rayman311Rayman311 Posts: 423 ✭✭✭
    Sweet coin! Congrats!
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


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    << <i>NGC does recognize PL coins, and I don't think they would place it in a PL holder either. >>



    I kind of doubt NGC would put any of these in PL holders, the pops for PL trade dollars at NGC Is something like 5 or 6 total for the series. I have a hunch that most of those are probably proofs and not business strikes anyway. >>



    There are 25 listed in the NGC census for the series. Some of the pieces I have seen for sale lack the squared rims expected from a proof. I always find it hard to judge depth of mirrors based on photographs, but your coin in the original post looks like it would have a shot. I wish PCGS would start designating non-modern/non-Morgan Dollar coins as PL and DMPL. There are niche collectors, myself included, who actively pursue these. >>



    Proof quality is notoriously poor with trade dollars. Looking for diagnostics based off of production quality can be madding. Trade guys go off 75% die pairs. Of course there are examples of pairs being used for both proof and BS so that isn't full proof either.
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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a beautiful coin Dan. SO.........What's the grade????
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    DDRDDR Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin, Dan.
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    ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Exceptional eye appeal! Very,very nice! image
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭
    Grade? I would say its AU58 but I dont know enough about them.
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    LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭


    << <i>... There just isn't enough survivors of PL trade dollars to make it a speciality unlike Morgan's. >>

    Less survivors is a good thing in my book. I have been looking at PR trade dollars for about a year now. But with these beauties, I may need to expand my gaze to PL. Just wonderful!
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    lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    Excellent photo of an extraordinary coin.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some nice TD's in this thread.... congratulations to those who own them...Cheers, RickO

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