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Bids on HOF Coins Falling Big Time - Dump them?

Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
The latest CDN is out and the bids on HOF coins are way down.

$5 Gold Unc dropped from $800 to $570, Unc Silver Dollar from $100 to $75 Bid; proofs similar drops.

I expect the bids on these to drop further and would be careful if offered any, offering a steep discount to current CDN. If you bought 70's paying big money, congrats your the end user. The people who doubled their money on these or more when they first came out really cleaned up.

What will you do with yours? Dump them while there may still be a chance for a slight profit (or minimize a loss) or wait further and just be the end user.

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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Glad I canceled mine when the musical ship dates started.


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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The time to dump was a while ago.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I finally saw one at the local B&M........ Kinda cute, quirky. I'm a huge baseball fan & huge coin fan. Somehow this mint product does nothing for me.
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What will you do with yours? Dump them while there may still be a chance for a slight profit >>



    Gee, what if one bought them just because they like the coins?
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,862 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The time to dump was a while ago. >>



    Total agreement with Todd.....I do see these coins making a slow but sure rebound over the next few years.

    Keep your HOF coins in a safe place and look forward to the 50th anniversary Kennedy offerings. image
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What will you do with yours? Dump them while there may still be a chance for a slight profit >>



    Gee, what if one bought them just because they like the coins? >>


    Exactly.

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    pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    Sold all the gold and silver I had at a good profit and cancelled 2 gold and 39 silver when things started to look like they were going south.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They'll be like every $5 gold coin the mint releases. Worth about spot, minus all the interest, after the initial dust of the stampede settles.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont get it if i'm getting more then i payed from the mint why not keep it and sell it for a bit more maybe not $100's but $20 or $30 more is still more then you payed from the mint and if they are MS or PR 70's you'll get more then that. I dont think it will go below the mint price but what ever flowts your boat. All i kept wher the 70's and sold off all my 69's and will keep them till all the rest get there "Sorry we can not ship you your order" E-Mails from are money making US Mint. Sounds like the sky is falling. A bid price is just that a bid price I see bid's on coins that i will never sell at that price but that is all they want to pay and they will never get them at that price from me. But some will sell and i will buy all you can do is ask and you have the opt to say no or yes. I just rec my Unc's yesterday and will have them graded come on 70's. image


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    410a410a Posts: 1,325
    Saturday, I was in Baltimore and I saw the Yankees play the Os. Yankees 3-0 over the Os. Yankees got a great new pitcher in this guy Shane Greene what a breaking ball 93 miles per hour in the 7th inning..............Wow.

    Oh yeah. Ahh what was the original question?
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    jrt103jrt103 Posts: 419 ✭✭✭
    Silver HOF seem to be holding steady on the Bay ~$80 for UNC and ~$90 for Proof. The Golds don't seem to be doing as well.
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    pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    By the time you pay 13% ebay fees and then ship them you only make a few dollars. Is it worth the trouble?
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The latest CDN is out and the bids on HOF coins are way down.

    $5 Gold Unc dropped from $800 to $570, Unc Silver Dollar from $100 to $75 Bid; proofs similar drops.

    I expect the bids on these to drop further and would be careful if offered any, offering a steep discount to current CDN. If you bought 70's paying big money, congrats your the end user. The people who doubled their money on these or more when they first came out really cleaned up.

    What will you do with yours? Dump them while there may still be a chance for a slight profit (or minimize a loss) or wait further and just be the end user. >>



    buy prices are much lower .. dealers paying 460-490... even still lower prices.. coin club passed several times on offers to buy 100 coin lots of the gold hofs at MINT issue price.. dump and turn towards kennedy gold
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    7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    You'll never go broke taking a profit.

    As far as I see, there is still a profit in them. May not be much, but it's not a loss.
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    7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    The SD's will still hold a decent % profit. Wait until the dumping stops. Weak hands get out.

    Then prices will firm up.
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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Groundhog day.
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    pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    You can say weak hands if that makes you happy but the big profits on these coins has already been made.
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You can say weak hands if that makes you happy but the big profits on these coins has already been made. >>



    the focus and the money now turns to the Kennedy coins..taking the air, money and focus out of the HOFs
    when number of hof listings drop a lot on ebay.. that will signal game over
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    renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>You can say weak hands if that makes you happy but the big profits on these coins has already been made. >>



    the focus and the money now turns to the Kennedy coins..taking the air, money and focus out of the HOFs
    when number of hof listings drop a lot on ebay.. that will signal game over >>



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    pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    Say goodnight Gracie! ( most of you will not know what I am talking about)
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Goodnight, Gracie.
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    cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's too bad that the big money is gone for the flippers. But here's the sad part -- all I really wanted was one of the uncirculated dollar coins. Got my order in sometime during the mid-late afternoon of the 1st day and what do you know, when it finally arrived about three weeks ago it had a long curved scratch on the baseball (obverse). I wonder if I got one of the flipper's rejects? image
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    pcunixpcunix Posts: 620
    I bought them to hold for my children when I'm gone. Why would I dump them?
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    Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    Weird. I always thought this was COLLECTORS Universe forum.
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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    On Monday I watched a PF70 (not FS, not signed) sell for $979

    Yesterday another sold for $975 (same label)

    I went 6 for 6 70's on my submission....

    I don't feel the panic because NOW is when they SHOULD be dropping....the end of dump AND the summer doldrums....see me in a few years

    I won't cancel my remaining orders but I hope others will so my odds of getting them will improve.....

    The price drop NOW only matters if you need to sell NOW.....I don't....and anyway the worst time to sell is when everyone else is selling
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Down, down, down...Exactly what they should do. I am happy enough with an unc. One Dollar.

    To those leaving coins for future generations: "Good Luck"
    I say, you be happy with them or flip them or whatever.
    These kids, including mine, by and large, do not give a hoot (and I could almost use stronger language) about coins - even those in hand. How many numismatists even care about the '01 Buff dollar?
    I have tried to give buff nickels away without success to kids.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,937 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A market that seems to depend on encasement in a "70" holder doesn't strike me as a very safe investment.
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    pcunixpcunix Posts: 620


    << <i>Down, down, down...Exactly what they should do. I am happy enough with an unc. One Dollar.

    To those leaving coins for future generations: "Good Luck"
    I say, you be happy with them or flip them or whatever.
    These kids, including mine, by and large, do not give a hoot (and I could almost use stronger language) about coins - even those in hand. How many numismatists even care about the '01 Buff dollar?
    I have tried to give buff nickels away without success to kids. >>



    Well, my kids (who are now almost middle aged, by the way) DO know about coins and they will be happy to inherit mine. As they are more than financially secure, they are unlikely to sell, but will probably pass them to a cousin - possibly someone not even born yet. What happens then, who knows? I don't care..
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    SAM5969SAM5969 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭


    << <i>a breaking ball 93 miles per hour in the 7th inning. >>


    That's a cut fast ball not a breaking ball
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These coins will continue to fall in price until the flippers and dealers sell off the remainder their coins. Then prices will slowly rise when dealers have to buy these coins from collectors on the secondary market. These coins will continue to be popular with collectors since baseball is a popular pastime in America and these coins have a unique design and shape---cupped shape with a baseball on one side and a baseball glove on the other side. I'm not into sports but I bought two of the gold proofs which I got and two of the gold uncirculated coins which I didn't get because I liked the shape and design of these coins.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For some, the hobby is flipping. For others, the market it hopping. For a scant few, the majority are stupid. ( Greetings collectors, i can relate to you ! )
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>On Monday I watched a PF70 (not FS, not signed) sell for $979

    Yesterday another sold for $975 (same label)

    I went 6 for 6 70's on my submission....

    I don't feel the panic because NOW is when they SHOULD be dropping....the end of dump AND the summer doldrums....see me in a few years

    I won't cancel my remaining orders but I hope others will so my odds of getting them will improve.....

    The price drop NOW only matters if you need to sell NOW.....I don't....and anyway the worst time to sell is when everyone else is selling >>



    weren't the 70s at $3,000 at on time ?
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see, the "famous" 1992 Olympic $1 with Nolan Ryan available at the 30 dollar range or even less - methinks the baseball crowd not all that interested in baseball issues. Even the Jackie silver dollar suffering - not to mention the plummeting $5 gold for JR. Despite the novel dished shape, I can see the HOF issues performing similarly.

    BTW, this dish business - I can appreciate it, but has not been all that exciting to those I've shown it and the office manager who I usually get proof sets, etc. for did not even want one!

    Fun coin, now here comes the JFK coins, and then the next bit....
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lots of Modern bullion-related coin premiums are down. Lots of competition for the consumer dollars in this arena. The HoF issues aren't particularly scarce and the actual size of the market for them is yet undetermined.
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i say hold onto them.

    i think that over time the gold coins will be worth it because the mintage is relatively small and they have a cross collector base...plus, they are gold. i don't know about the silver and clad versions though.

    as a general rule, when prices are falling, it's not a good time to sell.
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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭


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    weren't the 70s at $3,000 at on time ? >>



    I never saw a Non-FS, Non-Sig, Non-"I bought-it-at-a-coin-show" sell for 3 grand

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    Someone at today's Silvertowne Auction (July 16th) did not get their memo on time. The auction is ongoing via Proxibid and the Silvertowne site. Internet auction charges up to 18%. Onsite bid for an NGC Proof 70 2014 P just went for $180.00. The Gold $5.00 NGC MS 70 went for $800.00. Go figure!
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only bought one opened HOF silver proof and one unopened HOF gold proof.

    How do you dump them when you only have two of them?

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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Individually?
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    HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    weren't the 70s at $3,000 at on time ? >>



    I never saw a Non-FS, Non-Sig, Non-"I bought-it-at-a-coin-show" sell for 3 grand >>



    I believe the highest for PCGS FS 70's was $ 1,400 - $ 1,500 except for the PCGS real signatures and the show coins.
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    4 sold for over $1800 on Ebay, 3 MS70s and 1 PR70, all regular FIRST STRIKE. These were sold in late May 2014. See Ebay completed sales, highest price first.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,503 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The time to dump was a while ago. >>

    agreed
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    HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info Bullsitter.

    Always a few who are easily parted from their money. Remember the first 2010 69DMPL 5oz sets that sold for $ 10,000.

    It will be a freezing cold day down below when that investment pays off.image
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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the info Bullsitter.

    Always a few who are easily parted from their money. Remember the first 2010 69DMPL 5oz sets that sold for $ 10,000.

    It will be a freezing cold day down below when that investment pays off.image >>



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    The silver dollars are still going for $80-$90 raw. Is that a market collapsing?
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,901 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The silver dollars are still going for $80-$90 raw. Is that a market collapsing? >>



    That is surprising considering dealer bids are lower than the OP post.

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    BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The silver dollars are still going for $80-$90 raw. Is that a market collapsing? >>



    That is surprising considering dealer bids are lower than the OP post. >>



    Yup, raw silver proof sold for $93 a couple of hours ago
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    ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Once the flipper / dealer hoards are disseminated the prices will rebound as any promotion means upping bids for accumulation. This coin is wildly popular. Perhaps more popular than the Buffalo dollars.
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    Yup, raw silver proof sold for $93 a couple of hours ago >>



    And this is supposedly a market undergoing a 'big time' collapse?

    The raw golds however, are clearly not retaining anything near their frothy levels of 6-8 weeks ago.

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