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Manorcourtman
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Unbelievable 
A Fool and his $
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Manorcourtman
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Manorcourtman
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Manorcourtman
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<< <i>THIS SUCKER IS ROLLED TIGHT >>
Indeed!!
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What are the odds that he could make-up another roll for me?
Then again he could have asked for references.
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<< <i>That's an incredible ultra rare opportunity and I missed it.
What are the odds that he could make-up another roll for me?
I'd bet that he's making up another roll for the next sucker to come along and be "rolled tight," too.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
Gary
<< <i>Unbelievable
Ebay won't protect buyers from obvious scams like this...but last week I was trying to buy one of the .999 silver 1938 original Jefferson Nickel design patterns produced for the Full Step Nickel Club. Ebay ended the auction because these were slabbed by Larry Briggs SEGS, the official grading service of the club.
to www.ebay.com/ccw
All these and similar items from this seller are misrepresented. There is and never was such a bank. These buyers are paying thousands for coins worth a few hundred expecting a windfall of CC dollars that WILL NOT HAPPEN because the circumstances of the story are MADE UP by the seller.
<< <i>This must be some big dealer as he has had many of these UNOPENED CC rolls for sale!
I wonder if the only unhappy buyer was the one who opened his roll.
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<< <i>I reported these with this explanation
to www.ebay.com/ccw
All these and similar items from this seller are misrepresented. There is and never was such a bank. These buyers are paying thousands for coins worth a few hundred expecting a windfall of CC dollars that WILL NOT HAPPEN because the circumstances of the story are MADE UP by the seller. >>
what would it take [if possible] to compel the seller to return the funds to all of those he hoodwinked? Looks like many thousands.
MY COINS FOR SALE AT https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/other/bajjerfans-coins-sale/3876
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<< <i>That's an incredible ultra rare opportunity and I missed it.
What are the odds that he could make-up another roll for me?
I'd bet that he's making up another roll for the next sucker to come along and be "rolled tight," too. >>
Besides the money, I would imagine most scammers probably get some sort of perverted delight with a description innuendo such as this.
CC Bank roll #2
Number 3 ...
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<< <i>Unbelievable
Ebay won't protect buyers from obvious scams like this...but last week I was trying to buy one of the .999 silver 1938 original Jefferson Nickel design patterns produced for the Full Step Nickel Club. Ebay ended the auction because these were slabbed by Larry Briggs SEGS, the official grading service of the club. >>
More likely that eBay ended the auction because it was being described as a "certified" coin either in the description or body of the auction, not because Larry Briggs graded it.
Like it or not, SEGS is not one of eBay's accepted graders.
I'll leave it to others to debate eBay's policy on TPGs.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>How likely is it that you would have this paper roll of coins, and the 2 end coins would be blast white after so many years? ... >>
Indeed, I have BU rolls of silver coins from the 50's and 60's and the end coins of every roll are toned.
Please note that his return policy bars buyers from returning an opened roll!
Unlike others, I can't say for sure that the bank in question never existed but I think this guy's auctions are, to say the least, highly suspect.
<< <i>I reported these with this explanation
to www.ebay.com/ccw
All these and similar items from this seller are misrepresented. There is and never was such a bank. These buyers are paying thousands for coins worth a few hundred expecting a windfall of CC dollars that WILL NOT HAPPEN because the circumstances of the story are MADE UP by the seller. >>
I suppose that you are an authority on bank history of the USA now?
The Depression caused 100's of banks to close down.
Just sayin...
every week for a couple years. Many threads have been generated about these rolls, and
this guy keeps goin n goin. I think it's time to roll up some commons,
get me an ink stamp with Carson City State Trust Bank, and part a fool with his money.
This guy is making a killing every week, and Ebay could care less.
EDIT: Frank that Jefferson piece is really cool. Difficult to locate?
any of them and if so what were the results. This is his response:
Hi Bob,
I have NOT opened any rolls. Of course, I am very curious of what I might find. But I feel the investment value is secured by not opening them. I know, as a fact of history, the bank failed in 1907. What I am very curious about, is there a possibility there may be an uncirculated 1893-S? Since Nevada borders California, the possibility, I think, exist for there to be an Uncirculated 1893-S, which would be the first of its kind. If so, I could finally retire. Ha! Ha! But if one ever surfaces, it may well be from one of these rolls. These rolls are absolutely beautiful in every way. I hope this answers your question. Jim
- jimd3478
bidder would have to lose to give neg. FB?
I do like the veiled reference to the word "SUCKER" in the last sentence of the description. That's the seller rubbing the buyer's nose in it.
roadrunner
More than likely fiilled with 62/63 ish commons,and one 1882CC, not funny
<< <i>One of the buyers has purchased several rolls and I sent a message asking if he had opened
any of them and if so what were the results. This is his response:
Hi Bob,
I have NOT opened any rolls. Of course, I am very curious of what I might find. But I feel the investment value is secured by not opening them. I know, as a fact of history, the bank failed in 1907. What I am very curious about, is there a possibility there may be an uncirculated 1893-S? Since Nevada borders California, the possibility, I think, exist for there to be an Uncirculated 1893-S, which would be the first of its kind. If so, I could finally retire. Ha! Ha! But if one ever surfaces, it may well be from one of these rolls. These rolls are absolutely beautiful in every way. I hope this answers your question. Jim
- jimd3478 >>
I am suspect of jimd3478 having seen them having purchased at least 5+ rolls from one of the sellers of these rolls. Investment? Nobody has any freakin' clue about that particular bank, and I am surprised that these same rolls haven't popped up in dealer circles...and if they have, dealers sure are remaining awfully quiet on the matter.
Neutral: NGC ruled 2 end coins improperly cleaned, no ms64, all ms 60-63, worth $1100 Buyer:
Member id dartcap
Apr-20-11 15:01 Feedback conversation
ULTRA RARE SEALED Morgan Dollar CC State Bank Roll (#250775491901) US $3,251.00 View Item
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<< <i>Unbelievable
Ebay won't protect buyers from obvious scams like this...but last week I was trying to buy one of the .999 silver 1938 original Jefferson Nickel design patterns produced for the Full Step Nickel Club. Ebay ended the auction because these were slabbed by Larry Briggs SEGS, the official grading service of the club.
I was after that one also. I bought 2 sets of them when the FSNC was selling them (does it even exist anymore?), way back when. Went to sell them, and almost couldn't give them away. I'd love to have those 2 sets now.... .999 silver, nice design......
Guess he won't be buying anymore ultra rare rolls huh? Ouchie
LINK
this is just one case in many where being foolish is going to come back and bite them hard
Coins for sale at link below
https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipP4PBdXHyY3jaCIhcyZwTqHFUghNBdD4kFaDpRZ
Like I said earlier, this guy has been bilking the public,
every week for at least a couple years.
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<< <i>Looks this has been going on for awhile .. here is the thread back from 2009 !!! >>
Like I said earlier, this guy has been bilking the public,
every week for at least a couple years. >>
FYI, the seller, allraritiesllc, has a 2387 / 100% Positive Feedback Score with 5s (4.8-4.9) across the board on DSRs.
ULTRA RARE SEALED Morgan Dollar CC State Bank Roll (#290561572126) US $3,800.00
This guy was delighted and had fun getting screwed, glued, and tattooed.
<< <i>Fun to open, didn't find the golden goose though, A++ Buyer: Member id mike123arm12md May-24-11 11:21
ULTRA RARE SEALED Morgan Dollar CC State Bank Roll (#290561572126) US $3,800.00
This guy was delighted and had fun getting screwed, glued, and tattooed. >>
I was just reading that one and thought ALMOST the exact same thing!!
Two vastly different styles of font.
Does this strike you as odd? The word Dollar, doesn't appear to be of that era.
Sorry, Bobbo, I have a library full of bank directories from the late 19th Century through the first half of the 20th Century and I find no record of a Carson City State Trust Bank.
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
<< <i>I suppose that you are an authority on bank history of the USA now?
Sorry, Bobbo, I have a library full of bank directories from the late 19th Century through the first half of the 20th Century and I find no record of a Carson City State Trust Bank. >>
Are you Frank Provasek?
<< <i>One of the buyers has purchased several rolls and I sent a message asking if he had opened
any of them and if so what were the results. This is his response:
Hi Bob,
I have NOT opened any rolls. Of course, I am very curious of what I might find. But I feel the investment value is secured by not opening them. I know, as a fact of history, the bank failed in 1907. What I am very curious about, is there a possibility there may be an uncirculated 1893-S? Since Nevada borders California, the possibility, I think, exist for there to be an Uncirculated 1893-S, which would be the first of its kind. If so, I could finally retire. Ha! Ha! But if one ever surfaces, it may well be from one of these rolls. These rolls are absolutely beautiful in every way. I hope this answers your question. Jim
- jimd3478 >>
The guy you sent the message to is/was in on this scam with the seller...Funny you sent him a message...I looked him up along time ago and he had 100% bid activity with seller and for one transaction left (+) Feedback hours after the auction ended....OOPS, I'm sure his buddy informed him later to at least wait a few days....
No, but I have been a collector of National Bank Notes and researcher of bank history for over thirty years and a member of the Board of Governors of the Society Paper Money Collectors for over 15 years (along with numerous other numismatic organizations).
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
<< <i>Are you Frank Provasek?
No, but I have been a collector of National Bank Notes and researcher of bank history for over thirty years and a member of the Board of Governors of the Society Paper Money Collectors for over 15 years (along with numerous other numismatic organizations). >>
Well I'm not questioning your expertise but my initial comment was directed at Frank Provasek, not you.
I strongly suspect the seller in the auctions in question is not entirely on the up-and-up but before I'd go slinging complaints to eBay, I'd make darn sure I knew what I was talking about.
<< <i>
<< <i>Are you Frank Provasek?
No, but I have been a collector of National Bank Notes and researcher of bank history for over thirty years and a member of the Board of Governors of the Society Paper Money Collectors for over 15 years (along with numerous other numismatic organizations). >>
Well I'm not questioning your expertise but my initial comment was directed at Frank Provasek, not you.
I strongly suspect the seller in the auctions in question is not entirely on the up-and-up but before I'd go slinging complaints to eBay, I'd make darn sure I knew what I was talking about. >>
No idea how long you've been monitoring the forums, but these "bank" wrapped rolls have been discussed before and it was determined long ago that this "bank" did not exist. You may want to search for it. Frank probably remembers from the discussion long ago. A seller of these rolls even came on these forums to discuss where she had allegedly acquired them.
TMI on these rolls has already rolled over. Nobody is really that (on these forums) oblivious to the nature of these auctions on ebay regarding these bank wrapped rolls. ha ha!
Now i know this next comment will bring some interesting responses ....
If you all want to know what he is doing lets just get a group of forum members together and buy 1 .... Hell 10 guys 200 a piece or so ... we open the coin roll at the LB show together and see whats in it ... Everyone draw a number for which coin from the top they get ... or get them graded and send them to a auction
I would join such a venture and don't think a couple hundred bucks per person would kill any of us .
Before you call me every idiot name in the book it was just a suggestion
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<< <i>Unbelievable
Ebay won't protect buyers from obvious scams like this...but last week I was trying to buy one of the .999 silver 1938 original Jefferson Nickel design patterns produced for the Full Step Nickel Club. Ebay ended the auction because these were slabbed by Larry Briggs SEGS, the official grading service of the club.
why did you not contact the club, last I knew they still had them.
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
<< <i>Check out the pic of the paper.
Two vastly different styles of font. >>
Britannic Bold and Old English Text MT, to be exact.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars
<< <i>what would it take [if possible] to compel the seller to return the funds to all of those he hoodwinked? Looks like many thousands. >>
A class action suit, maybe.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars